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Hey everybody,
I'm planning on getting my GN in the next two weeks and wanted to ask a simple question:
first of all - I will want my GN to be a yakju, I will want to root it and I will want to unlock the bootloader.
Now, I believe I have everything understood just wanted to be sure if you could help me..
these are the steps I will take:
1. Check if GN is yakju
1.1 If GN is yakju simply use the gnex toolkit to unlock bootloader and root.
FINISH.
2. If GN is not yakju -
2.1 Use step-by-step (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391881) to change rom to yakju 4.0.4.
2.3 Then use gnex toolkit to root (already unlocked bootloader in 2.1).
FINISH.
Am I good to go?
TNX!
Pretty much thats the way it should be,,, advance congrats for the next awesome purchase u r going to make,,,
deepayanneogi said:
Pretty much thats the way it should be,,, advance congrats for the next awesome purchase u r going to make,,,
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Thanks mate! can't wait already
More replies are welcome.. I just want to feel certain I'm on the right track here..
Be a big boy and don't use a tool kit =]
My guide makes it super simple...
Stickied above and linked in my sig.
Jubakuba said:
Be a big boy and don't use a tool kit =]
My guide makes it super simple...
Stickied above and linked in my sig.
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Hey tnx
I do consider myself an open minded guy and also I usually like to know the bits and insides stuff of things I do, I will usually prefer going the longer way (I.E - rooting\unlocking bootloader) then to just use the toolkit and pressing "next, next, next" because I prefer to know what every "next" does, BUT in this case, I think I managed to (obsessively) learn what everything does, so I decided to take the shorter trip to rooting+unlocking BL, do you think the toolkit has any disadvantages over the longer way?
omricn said:
Hey tnx
I do consider myself an open minded guy and also I usually like to know the bits and insides stuff of things I do, I will usually prefer going the longer way (I.E - rooting\unlocking bootloader) then to just use the toolkit and pressing "next, next, next" because I prefer to know what every "next" does, BUT in this case, I think I managed to (obsessively) learn what everything does, so I decided to take the shorter trip to rooting+unlocking BL, do you think the toolkit has any disadvantages over the longer way?
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If it works it works.
The thing I hate about 'em is...
If a user has a soft-bricked phone.
Comes on here...asks for help.
And I tell him to do some adb/fastboot procedure: he asks "lul wut?"
And we have to help him set that up...and assume he set it up correctly.
He then might complain "oh, ya. It won't recognize my device."
Which is possible in some soft-brick situations...but it also might be user error.
Thus making trouble-shooting/fixing 10x harder.
Just...do yourself a favor and make sure ADB/Fastboot work.
run "adb devices"
and "fastboot devices"
If both of those recognize your phone...I guess the toolkit is fine.
As you said, you know whats going on...so what's the harm?
That seems about right. Just be a little cautious when flashing a radio or bootloader, as any of those two when flashed wrong can **** your device up beyond self-repair.
An incorrectly flashed system or boot is "easily" fixable, though.
Theshawty said:
That seems about right. Just be a little cautious when flashing a radio or bootloader, as any of those two when flashed wrong can **** your device up beyond self-repair.
An incorrectly flashed system or boot is "easily" fixable, though.
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Tnx Actually I'm not going to flash custom roms\radios\BL's just yet (if ever), just going to flash the official 4.0.4 yakju from Google, including the radio that comes with that bundle
Jubakuba said:
If it works it works.
The thing I hate about 'em is...
If a user has a soft-bricked phone.
Comes on here...asks for help.
And I tell him to do some adb/fastboot procedure: he asks "lul wut?"
And we have to help him set that up...and assume he set it up correctly.
He then might complain "oh, ya. It won't recognize my device."
Which is possible in some soft-brick situations...but it also might be user error.
Thus making trouble-shooting/fixing 10x harder.
Just...do yourself a favor and make sure ADB/Fastboot work.
run "adb devices"
and "fastboot devices"
If both of those recognize your phone...I guess the toolkit is fine.
As you said, you know whats going on...so what's the harm?
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I catch your drift, and I know exactly what you mean.. I'm an IT guy, and apart from my job, I always learn everything there is to know about anything before I buy\change it in any way, to always be super safe and know what to do in every situation I can encounter.
Before I do something I will triple check what could and can happen so that I'm always 3 steps ahead. Thats the reason I already know almost everything there is to know about this phone, about rooting it, about unlocking it, ADB, fastboot etc. even before I bought it call me crazy..
Not crazy by my standards.
I actually did the same thing...
Even posted a thread "OMG LULZ SO I DO THIS, RIGHT?" as you have...
Because I was excited as hell and wanted to reassure myself.
You'll love 'er.
Best phone I've owned...by far.
While the OS (and a Nexus on Verizon...which we thought we'd NEVER see) is a HUGE part of it...
I was/am actually impressed with the hardware as well.
I could go on and on and on about my Droid X (Got it on release day...didn't fully understand the implications of a locked bootloader...and how it would hinder the experience over that of my Original Droid) and how much I hated having a locked bootloader.
That was MY main push. I was like...Oh. My. God. A Nexus?! That **** is MINE.
</rambling>
This phone STILL gives me the shivers.
Love it.
The 4.0.4 radio and bootloader will do for many more releases, I think. I don't think it's the radio's fault for the signal drops as a simple overclocking counters it.
Jubakuba said:
Not crazy by my standards.
I actually did the same thing...
Even posted a thread "OMG LULZ SO I DO THIS, RIGHT?" as you have...
Because I was excited as hell and wanted to reassure myself.
You'll love 'er.
Best phone I've owned...by far.
While the OS (and a Nexus on Verizon...which we thought we'd NEVER see) is a HUGE part of it...
I was/am actually impressed with the hardware as well.
I could go on and on and on about my Droid X (Got it on release day...didn't fully understand the implications of a locked bootloader...and how it would hinder the experience over that of my Original Droid) and how much I hated having a locked bootloader.
That was MY main push. I was like...Oh. My. God. A Nexus?! That **** is MINE.
</rambling>
This phone STILL gives me the shivers.
Love it.
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Best. Reply. Ever.
Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3
Locklear308 said:
Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3
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I was in the same boat haven't owed an HTC since the Fuze running Windows lol and have been a loyal Samsung user since the S1 so the whole adb fastboot thing was a little overwhelming. I followed the guide in the forum and had a few hiccups but overall went pretty smooth. Adb is definitely not as user friendly as Odin on a Sammy device but not to difficult. My only tips would be make sure you have all the latest drivers, twrp, and adb installed. It seems pretty hard to permanently brick a device these days from my experience so I wouldn't worry to much. As far as the radio not working, as long as you keep your device encrypted you won't lose your radio. I'm sure the devs will find a fix for this soon enough. Enjoy your new 10!
Edit: I'm using a lexar 128gb 633x U1 micro sd and all is well. Worked with adoptable storage also but felt a little sluggish so I went back to using it as external storage.
AndroiderM said:
I was in the same boat haven't owed an HTC since the Fuze running Windows lol and have been a loyal Samsung user since the S1 so the whole adb fastboot thing was a little overwhelming. I followed the guide in the forum and had a few hiccups but overall went pretty smooth. Adb is definitely not as user friendly as Odin on a Sammy device but not to difficult. My only tips would be make sure you have all the latest drivers, twrp, and adb installed. It seems pretty hard to permanently brick a device these days from my experience so I wouldn't worry to much. As far as the radio not working, as long as you keep your device encrypted you won't lose your radio. I'm sure the devs will find a fix for this soon enough. Enjoy your new 10!
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Well I am comfortable in adb :3 so that's not a worry. So un-enecrypting it is just an option, and I should just avoid it for now? What is the advantage of un-encrypting it?
What guide did you use? Also, what about all this firmware and ruu stuff?
Sorry for so many questions... Lol this thing wasn't cheap and I am nervous , BTW what setup do you have? Root? ROM?
Thanks for replying :3
Locklear308 said:
Well I am comfortable in adb :3 so that's not a worry. So un-enecrypting it is just an option, and I should just avoid it for now? What is the advantage of un-encrypting it?
What guide did you use? Also, what about all this firmware and ruu stuff?
Sorry for so many questions... Lol this thing wasn't cheap and I am nervous , BTW what setup do you have? Root? ROM?
Thanks for replying :3
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
From what I understand unencrypting breaks the radio. With it unencrypted you would get slightly better performance and boot times I think. I would definitely avoid it for now. I'm currently using twrp with Viper 10 rom. I've also used leedroid and still trying to find which one I prefer. I've only had my 10 for 3 days lol so I haven't found my sweet setup just yet. I left s-on for now as I don't really need it off.
No idea about the firmware and ruu stuff. I made a backup of stock rom before I started flashing. I'm pretty sure there is or will be a repo with factory firmware, radios, etc. I don't know what ruu stands for either lol.
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Did you get carrier or unlocked version
AndroiderM said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
From what I understand unencrypting breaks the radio. With it unencrypted you would get slightly better performance and boot times I think. I would definitely avoid it for now. I'm currently using twrp with Viper 10 rom. I've also used leedroid and still trying to find which one I prefer. I've only had my 10 for 3 days lol so I haven't found my sweet setup just yet. I left s-on for now as I don't really need it off.
No idea about the firmware and ruu stuff. I made a backup of stock rom before I started flashing. I'm pretty sure there is or will be a repo with factory firmware, radios, etc. I don't know what ruu stands for either lol.
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Did you get carrier or unlocked version
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Unlocked, at least that's what the guy on Swappa marked it as. *fingers crossed*
Got it for 510. One scratch on the metal
Alright so I will back things up and avoid the radio breaking stuff. I will check that link, thanks man
Locklear308 said:
Unlocked, at least that's what the guy on Swappa marked it as. *fingers crossed*
Got it for 510. One scratch on the metal
Alright so I will back things up and avoid the radio breaking stuff. I will check that link, thanks man
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No problem, mine has two scratches on metal too lol but guy gave me $200 and unlocked htc 10 w uh oh protection and original receipt for my s7e at&t branded locked bootloader ?. Was a no brainer for me
Locklear308 said:
Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3
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I'm on my third htc10. Exploded last two after rooting haha. Really not hard mate. Just read the guides provided and ask any questions you need. Most ppl on XDA will be helpful, and some will reply like me lol.
BTW, simple answer, unlock phone via HTC Dev, then flash Viper. Done.
purple patch said:
I'm on my third htc10. Exploded last two after rooting haha. Really not hard mate. Just read the guides provided and ask any questions you need. Most ppl on XDA will be helpful, and some will reply like me lol.
BTW, simple answer, unlock phone via HTC Dev, then flash Viper. Done.
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Alright neato, so do I need to ensure I let it download any and all OTA's for the firmware before doing anything? Is s-off safe to get as well in regards to the issues I referred to in my OP above?
And his is this viper? Does it allow things like settings similar to cm and also allow for xposed?
Thanks for replying man, I feel more comfortable now as it sounds like there isn't anything crazy required to safely root this thing . Phew!!
Locklear308 said:
Alright neato, so do I need to ensure I let it download any and all OTA's for the firmware before doing anything? Is s-off safe to get as well in regards to the issues I referred to in my OP above?
And his is this viper? Does it allow things like settings similar to cm and also allow for xposed?
Thanks for replying man, I feel more comfortable now as it sounds like there isn't anything crazy required to safely root this thing . Phew!!
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I got an M9 for my wife not that long ago and just had my 10 show up today and gonna root. Just do like the other dude said. Find a guide that says how to use HTC dev to unlock the bootloader. You can't just enter a command in adb like "unlock bootloader" and have it work. Go to the HTC dev website, make an account, pick your device and it walks you through the steps of unlocking the bootloader. That's really the only semi-difficult part IMO. Then proceed as normal. Download twrp, make a stock nand, download ROM, su binaries, kernel, etc. etc. go to recovery and flash. I'm sure there's a couple other steps in their but that's the basics.
As for Viper, it tends to come with so many mods built in, I'd personally be kind of reluctant to use xposed with it to to much modifying. It's a great ROM, but so is leedroid You can try each and see what you like, but if you want to more safely use xposed I'd personally go with leedroid.
DroidIt! said:
I got an M9 for my wife not that long ago and just had my 10 show up today and gonna root. Just do like the other dude said. Find a guide that says how to use HTC dev to unlock the bootloader. You can't just enter a command in adb like "unlock bootloader" and have it work. Go to the HTC dev website, make an account, pick your device and it walks you through the steps of unlocking the bootloader. That's really the only semi-difficult part IMO. Then proceed as normal. Download twrp, make a stock nand, download ROM, su binaries, kernel, etc. etc. go to recovery and flash. I'm sure there's a couple other steps in their but that's the basics.
As for Viper, it tends to come with so many mods built in, I'd personally be kind of reluctant to use xposed with it to to much modifying. It's a great ROM, but so is leedroid You can try each and see what you like, but if you want to more safely use xposed I'd personally go with leedroid.
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Oh right, I do remember about the whole HTC dev website thing. I was mainly just concerned with the firmware issues and stuff that I had before.
Is there any kind of limitations for reasons not to upgrade to the highest available firmware? Something like, maybe the highest one can't be rooted yet or something like that. I just want to make sure that I don't shoot myself in the foot haha.
Thank you all for your help
Locklear308 said:
Oh right, I do remember about the whole HTC dev website thing. I was mainly just concerned with the firmware issues and stuff that I had before.
Is there any kind of limitations for reasons not to upgrade to the highest available firmware? Something like, maybe the highest one can't be rooted yet or something like that. I just want to make sure that I don't shoot myself in the foot haha.
Thank you all for your help
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Hey, I'm not sure about firmware not being able to be rooted but the best way to go about it (what I did anyway) is to unlock the phone via htcdev.com, flash a custom recovery (Latest TWRP which has also worked around the encryption stuff?) and then back up everything other than the data partition. That way, no matter what you do, you always have something to revert back to. The reason for not backing up data is due to the encryption. From my understanding, restoring an encrypted data partition would break things. Once you have the phone unlocked and recovery sorted, you are free to flash viper etc. and root the phone using SuperSU. I'm sure you are aware unlocked devices are quite easy to root so whatever you flash will most likely be on latest firmware, already rooted.
As for installing OTAs etc., you need unmodified system and recovery which is where the backups kick in. Simply back up your data on an SD card (pictures etc. not the actual partition) and restore the system-image and recovery. This should reset the phone although I'm not sure if it'll wipe anything and allow you to do OTA updates. Alternatively, get the latest firmware for your device from htcdev (again, not sure if they have firmware on there) and use that instead.
If any of the information above is incorrect or missing steps, someone feel free to correct me.
First off, I am a newbie here, so please be kind.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (SM-N910V), running Android 6.0.1 stock Verizon ROM.
I have been getting some strange battery issues. Not charging to 100%, shutting off at 35%, stuff like that.
I have wiped the cache partition and done a factory reset with no luck.
I have replaced the battery.
When I boot into recovery mode, I get dead Android, no command.
I don't know if the problems are related, but I suspect so.
Don't know what else to do. Any help would be appreciated.
soccerplayer00321 said:
First off, I am a newbie here, so please be kind.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (SM-N910V), running Android 6.0.1 stock Verizon ROM.
I have been getting some strange battery issues. Not charging to 100%, shutting off at 35%, stuff like that.
I have wiped the cache partition and done a factory reset with no luck.
I have replaced the battery.
When I boot into recovery mode, I get dead Android, no command.
I don't know if the problems are related, but I suspect so.
Don't know what else to do. Any help would be appreciated.
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader (root)? You could try reflashing twrp with odin to get recovery back.
No, not rooted. Have always been afraid to brick the device. If that is the direction that I have to go then I will give it a shot. I figure there are enough directions on here I could probably figure it out.
soccerplayer00321 said:
No, not rooted. Have always been afraid to brick the device. If that is the direction that I have to go then I will give it a shot. I figure there are enough directions on here I could probably figure it out.
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If you don't want to root, you could try flashing the cpd1 firmware with odin and that should overwrite what might be throwing off your battery calibration. Unless it's a hardware problem that is. Are you comfortable using odin? Also if you have no interest in rooting, you could flash the most recent firmware.
I am a little familiar with Odin. I used it to put Android 6.0.1 onto my phone. Cpd1? This is the first that I am hearing (or reading) anything about cpd1. I would be interested in rooting, the biggest problem that I have with doing so is that most of the instructions that I have found are written for someone who has a better grasp of this stuff that I do. Do you know of any simple step-by-step walkthroughs? One that a newbie like myself could actually follow.
From what I've read about rooting, I am definitely interested, but still paranoid about bricking the phone. I do have an S5 as a backup if need be, so I am reluctantly willing to give it a shot.
soccerplayer00321 said:
I am a little familiar with Odin. I used it to put Android 6.0.1 onto my phone. Cpd1? This is the first that I am hearing (or reading) anything about cpd1. I would be interested in rooting, the biggest problem that I have with doing so is that most of the instructions that I have found are written for someone who has a better grasp of this stuff that I do. Do you know of any simple step-by-step walkthroughs? One that a newbie like myself could actually follow.
From what I've read about rooting, I am definitely interested, but still paranoid about bricking the phone. I do have an S5 as a backup if need be, so I am reluctantly willing to give it a shot.
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I was just referring to the first mm firmware that ends with cpd1 and the reason I suggested that particular one was just in case you were thinking of rooting. If you use any of the "safe" firmwares you should be ok though. I agree about the rooting process, it's not the most user friendly thing I've ever seen, but it really isn't as bad as it looks. As long as your using the files provided in those threads there really isn't a huge risk in bricking your phone. Worst case scenario, you get into a jam that takes a little while to get out of so be sure that you leave yourself time to recover in case you can't use your phone for a couple hours. I think the worst part is the instability of kingroot which means you have to do all the adb commands as quick as possible and the fact that if you want mm you have to do the root process twice. These are the two posts that got me through it:
Lollipop
Marshmallow
Start with Lp first, it's necessary to unlock that before going to mm. If your problem is software related, installing the firmwares to root should fix things. Best of luck!
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I was just referring to the first mm firmware that ends with cpd1 and the reason I suggested that particular one was just in case you were thinking of rooting. If you use any of the "safe" firmwares you should be ok though. I agree about the rooting process, it's not the most user friendly thing I've ever seen, but it really isn't as bad as it looks. As long as your using the files provided in those threads there really isn't a huge risk in bricking your phone. Worst case scenario, you get into a jam that takes a little while to get out of so be sure that you leave yourself time to recover in case you can't use your phone for a couple hours. I think the worst part is the instability of kingroot which means you have to do all the adb commands as quick as possible and the fact that if you want mm you have to do the root process twice. These are the two posts that got me through it:
Lollipop
Marshmallow
Start with Lp first, it's necessary to unlock that before going to mm. If your problem is software related, installing the firmwares to root should fix things. Best of luck!
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First off, thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
I finally got around to trying to do this with my phone and I can't even get past the first step. Install King Root, 4.8.5. I've tried 4.8.5 and 5.0, and neither one of them can get root access. Don't know what else to try.
soccerplayer00321 said:
First off, thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
I finally got around to trying to do this with my phone and I can't even get past the first step. Install King Root, 4.8.5. I've tried 4.8.5 and 5.0, and neither one of them can get root access. Don't know what else to try.
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Did you ever have any luck with kingroot? If you haven't tried already, do a factory reset before you start the process and if it fails uninstall, reboot, reinstall and try again. I know it's a frustrating process and it seems to take most people many tries. When it fails on you how far does it get?
Kingroot was really frustrating. It would never get past 52%. After countless tries I moved to kingoroot. Kingo root worked on first try. Glad I unlocked and rooted my note 4
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Did you ever have any luck with kingroot? If you haven't tried already, do a factory reset before you start the process and if it fails uninstall, reboot, reinstall and try again. I know it's a frustrating process and it seems to take most people many tries. When it fails on you how far does it get?
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No luck on Kingroot. It usually dies around 25% or so. Sometimes a little before that and sometimes after that. It never even got into the 35% range.
What I think I am going to do is go back to kitkat, original samsung rom. Try Kingoroot and see if that works. If not, I will push lolipop to it and try kingoroot again. If that doesn't work, I will try to push Marshmallow to it and try one more time. Hopefully one of them will be successful.
Ive never had issues bringing a device back on OS but this N4 is kicking my a&% bad. bought a used ( basically new ) sm-n910v it was updated to 6.0.1 mm and I'm not crazy about the MM I like KK and ive tried every firmware file known to man ive tried to slowly step back from 6.0 to 5.1.1 then 5.0 then 4.4.4 and they all fail says binary fused to boot 1 or something else and with 5.1.1 gets right to the end 99% then fails. would like to root and BL unlock any suggestions would be great. thanx in advance.
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Ive never had issues bringing a device back on OS but this N4 is kicking my a&% bad. bought a used ( basically new ) sm-n910v it was updated to 6.0.1 mm and I'm not crazy about the MM I like KK and ive tried every firmware file known to man ive tried to slowly step back from 6.0 to 5.1.1 then 5.0 then 4.4.4 and they all fail says binary fused to boot 1 or something else and with 5.1.1 gets right to the end 99% then fails. would like to root and BL unlock any suggestions would be great. thanx in advance.
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I believe you can only get root on kk with a developer edition version of the v model. If it's a retail version and you want root it has to be at least 5.1.1 unfortunately. Have you tried the links in this post? Imo those are the best guides that I've seen to get your bootloader unlocked.
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I believe you can only get root on kk with a developer edition version of the v model. If it's a retail version and you want root it has to be at least 5.1.1 unfortunately. Have you tried the links in this post? Imo those are the best guides that I've seen to get your bootloader unlocked.
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Yah I've tried most of them 5.1.1 gets to 98% then pooches out its exciting then bombs out, lol 4.4 doesn't get passed cache then fails. I'm using Odin 30.9, high quality data cable, thing is I can't move 》 till I can root to unlock the bootloader. My CID is 150 so that's good and I'm factory resetting the phone and pulling the SD card so it cannot mess with the flash. I'm running the NO_ A boot firmware that flashed perfect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm following the directions to the point.
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Yah I've tried most of them 5.1.1 gets to 98% then pooches out its exciting then bombs out, lol 4.4 doesn't get passed cache then fails. I'm using Odin 30.9, high quality data cable, thing is I can't move 》 till I can root to unlock the bootloader. My CID is 150 so that's good and I'm factory resetting the phone and pulling the SD card so it cannot mess with the flash. I'm running the NO_ A boot firmware that flashed perfect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm following the directions to the point.
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It may not make a difference, but there is a newer version of Odin here that you could try.
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It may not make a difference, but there is a newer version of Odin here that you could try.
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I'll give it a shot, right now I'm a Lil burned out on trying this because my other phone LG g4 is boot looped for no reason so I'm down to just my N4 and my N3 my gf has it. I forsee a big cup of coffee at 3am and let the flashing begin. Oh FYI I did try I think Odin 3.10 version it failed quicker so I'll try this version in the morning. I appreciate your help very much you'll be the 1st to know if it pushes through. Merry Christmas btw.
back on topic, I'm seeing kernel wakelocks for msm_hsic_host on Oscar kernel v1.3 but I'm pretty sure that was not always the case. Since that kernel hasn't been updated in a little while, I'm looking at others. Anyone got a preferred kernel with JasmineROM 7?
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back on topic, I'm seeing kernel wakelocks for msm_hsic_host on Oscar kernel v1.3 but I'm pretty sure that was not always the case. Since that kernel hasn't been updated in a little while, I'm looking at others. Anyone got a preferred kernel with JasmineROM 7?
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Reflashed and thought the wakelocks were gone, but not so. msm_hsic_host appears to be related to cellular.
flyers00 said:
Kingroot was really frustrating. It would never get past 52%. After countless tries I moved to kingoroot. Kingo root worked on first try. Glad I unlocked and rooted my note 4
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What I've noticed with this bootloader unlock is, like right now I'm 5.1.1 and my bootloader is unlocked but not rooted. OK if I use the the no A boot 6.0.1 file to flash mm it's stay unlocked and you can be rooted but if you use the normal full firmware 6.0.1 cpd1 file you lose your unlocked BL and back to start. Normally you unlock a BL it's stays unlocked no matter what you do. OK bugs with the no A boot 6.0.1 mm file no WiFi that's it. I really dislike 5.1.1 it sucks so there's not a lot of choices here. Good work on this exploit though.
I have been into the Android scene since the original Samsung Galaxy S. I couldn't even tell you how many phones I had since then but I was always big into rooting and flashing more ROMs than healthy. I lost the ability to get endless company phones and ended up with locked bootloader phones for a few years. One day I saw a friend with the Pixel 2 and I got the itch again. I got the Pixel 3XL and unlocked the bootloader and rooted it immediately. At the time I didn't realize how much different the process was as far as updating and installing ROMs than it used to be on my older phones like my beloved Nexus phones. Basically I'm paranoid about doing anything because the process sounds extremely complicated to me. Maybe I'm just getting older. I build server and storage solutions every day but this is foreign to me. Sorry for all the rambling. Basically I'm rooted and still on the November 2019 build. I'm starting to get OTA update prompts a lot but I just ignore them. I just really want to update the easiest way and hopefully be able to do more going forward. Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
Download latest factory image. Extract the boot.img from it and save to your phone. Open magisk manager and patch that boot.img. Save /download/magisk_patched.img to your computer. Disable or remove any magisk modules that you might have running. In bootloader run the flash-all.bat, after editing to remove -w, and boot into system. Reboot to bootloader and run "fastboot flash boot --slot all magisk_patched.img" and you should be good to go. Make sure to back everything up before hand just in case something does wrong. I use a mix of titanium backup, sms backup/restore, export contacts, and manually saving files. There are other ways, but this is what I am comfortable with.
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I have been into the Android scene since the original Samsung Galaxy S. I couldn't even tell you how many phones I had since then but I was always big into rooting and flashing more ROMs than healthy. I lost the ability to get endless company phones and ended up with locked bootloader phones for a few years. One day I saw a friend with the Pixel 2 and I got the itch again. I got the Pixel 3XL and unlocked the bootloader and rooted it immediately. At the time I didn't realize how much different the process was as far as updating and installing ROMs than it used to be on my older phones like my beloved Nexus phones. Basically I'm paranoid about doing anything because the process sounds extremely complicated to me. Maybe I'm just getting older. I build server and storage solutions every day but this is foreign to me. Sorry for all the rambling. Basically I'm rooted and still on the November 2019 build. I'm starting to get OTA update prompts a lot but I just ignore them. I just really want to update the easiest way and hopefully be able to do more going forward. Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
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Here ya go... https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/guide-pixel-3-xl-android-10-0-q-t3964117
Google offers their own flashing update tool. You can find it here, https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com/carrier_selection.
Thanks for all the replies guys. Will all these methods keep by bootloader unlocked and phone rooted? I definitely want those as they are now. Going to look a lot closer into the kernel and ROM situation. Also, is it safe to go from 9 to 10 without wiping? I'd obviously rather not wipe but if it might cause issues then I'd go with the wipe.
I know it's an old phone but I miss my old HTC Desire HD. So much awesome development for that phone. Released with Froyo and eventually got functioning Marshmallow builds. That phone and my Nexus 4 are probably my favorites of the countless phones I've had over the years. Anyway, thanks again for the replies. Gonna get this thing updated tomorrow.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Will all these methods keep by bootloader unlocked and phone rooted? I definitely want those as they are now. Going to look a lot closer into the kernel and ROM situation. Also, is it safe to go from 9 to 10 without wiping? I'd obviously rather not wipe but if it might cause issues then I'd go with the wipe.
I know it's an old phone but I miss my old HTC Desire HD. So much awesome development for that phone. Released with Froyo and eventually got functioning Marshmallow builds. That phone and my Nexus 4 are probably my favorites of the countless phones I've had over the years. Anyway, thanks again for the replies. Gonna get this thing updated tomorrow.
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You will need to wipe data on the upgrade to 10.
You will need to root again after the update. Bootloader will remain unlocked.
Once you have rooted, there is a method to take an OTA, and stay rooted. A description of the procedure is in the forums somewhere.
Again, I would recommend to follow the guide posted by Homeboy76. It will comprehensibly explain all the steps you need to achieve root,update etc. With links to downloads.
Gone are the days of flashing with just your phone. My first rooting experience was with an HTC Amaze. Then an S4 Samsung.
Good luck..
Edit: I stand corrected on data wipe when going to 10. I perhaps was overly cautious, and followed other recommendations.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Will all these methods keep by bootloader unlocked and phone rooted? I definitely want those as they are now. Going to look a lot closer into the kernel and ROM situation. Also, is it safe to go from 9 to 10 without wiping? I'd obviously rather not wipe but if it might cause issues then I'd go with the wipe.
I know it's an old phone but I miss my old HTC Desire HD. So much awesome development for that phone. Released with Froyo and eventually got functioning Marshmallow builds. That phone and my Nexus 4 are probably my favorites of the countless phones I've had over the years. Anyway, thanks again for the replies. Gonna get this thing updated tomorrow.
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You do not need to wipe data to update to 10. It is perfectly safe, we all did it. And so did all the people with locked bootloaders. You only have to wipe going down. Up is fine.
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And here is the link to take an ota without losing root.
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/tutorials.html#ota-installation).
Anyone tried Google's flashing update tool?
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Anyone tried this?
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Just a heads up, your link is broken. Looks like the period at the end of the sentence accidentally got included in the hyperlink. The one in spotmark's post works. https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com/carrier_selection
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Just a heads up, your link is broken. Looks like the period at the end of the sentence accidentally got included in the hyperlink. The one in spotmark's post works. https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com/carrier_selection
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It's working now
Homeboy76 said:
The link is in spotmark's quote: How can it be my link?
When I click it it works.
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It's only if you click the link from your post. You copied the . into the link. It comes up with 'Not Found
The requested URL was not found on the server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again.
Look closely at the hyperlink highlighting, and you'll see the . at the end.
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It's only if you click the link from your post. You copied the . into the link. It comes up with 'Not Found
The requested URL was not found on the server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again.
Look closely at the hyperlink highlighting, and you'll see the . at the end.
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It's working now
Homeboy76 said:
Read the edited post above yours.
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Not kidding, it is still not clicking without the . included. When you look at spotmark's post, the dot is black. Yours is blue and part of the hyperlink. I tried it in two browsers.
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Not kidding, it is still not clicking without the . included. When you look at spotmark's post, the dot is black. Yours is blue and part of the hyperlink. I tried it in two browsers.
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@sliding_billy
It's working now
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@sliding_billy
It's working now
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Winner, winner. Even better when you can't see the link.
i'm planning on unlocking the bootloader to get a custom os on it.
i haven't updated the phone since i got it, is it ok for me to update it or should i leave it and wait until i get custom os on it?
testask123 said:
i'm planning on unlocking the bootloader to get a custom os on it.
i haven't updated the phone since i got it, is it ok for me to update it or should i leave it and wait until i get custom os on it?
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I literally just got the phone 2 days ago and I already updated the phone to 12.5.5 "enhanced version" but I didn't see anywhere before updating that it'll be a problem to root after updating. My only problem is that 168 hours wait till I can unlock the bootloader anyone know how to bypass??
Supracer said:
I literally just got the phone 2 days ago and I already updated the phone to 12.5.5 "enhanced version" but I didn't see anywhere before updating that it'll be a problem to root after updating. My only problem is that 168 hours wait till I can unlock the bootloader anyone know how to bypass??
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No there is no way it sucks. Just a heads up twrp doesn't restore backups due to the a/b slots set up and you won't see much saying it doesn't. The phone is really easy to mess up and soft brick so have a PC and stock firmware with miflash ready to go
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No there is no way it sucks. Just a heads up twrp doesn't restore backups due to the a/b slots set up and you won't see much saying it doesn't. The phone is really easy to mess up and soft brick so have a PC and stock firmware with miflash ready to go
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Even though I have 10+ years of rooting and flashing etc and every phone I have had including my families phones have been rooted by me, it's great to get some advice from experienced users! Thank you so much! I see orange fox has been recently made for the f3, probably I'll check that out and see if the backups can be restored
Thank you so much for the info!
Supracer said:
Even though I have 10+ years of rooting and flashing etc and every phone I have had including my families phones have been rooted by me, it's great to get some advice from experienced users! Thank you so much! I see orange fox has been recently made for the f3, probably I'll check that out and see if the backups can be restored
Thank you so much for the info!
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No problem I've already tried the latest orange fox from 2 days ago and no backups can't be restored. No TWRP on any device can restore slot a slot b backups. Restore is dead until the people that make TWRP figure out how to do it
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No problem I've already tried the latest orange fox from 2 days ago and no backups can't be restored. No TWRP on any device can restore slot a slot b backups. Restore is dead until the people that make TWRP figure out how to do it
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just to clarify
its ok to update the phone, it doesn't prevent bootloader unlocking?
backups can't be used to restore prev data, correct?
testask123 said:
just to clarify
its ok to update the phone, it doesn't prevent bootloader unlocking?
backups can't be used to restore prev data, correct?
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That is correct and I understand why you asked I asked the same thing because on Samsung it's costed me kernels by updating without knowing. Only get ready for an extremely difficult time trying to ask questions or get any type of help from people on this device. There's dozens of rom, kernels, and about 4 custom recoveries now and no one and mean no one will answer questions with any real information. They will just say stuff like yes if that most times. I'm a big believer in helping people because I spend all day online why can't I answer a few questions
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That is correct and I understand why you asked I asked the same thing because on Samsung it's costed me kernels by updating without knowing. Only get ready for an extremely difficult time trying to ask questions or get any type of help from people on this device. There's dozens of rom, kernels, and about 4 custom recoveries now and no one and mean no one will answer questions with any real information. They will just say stuff like yes if that most times. I'm a big believer in helping people because I spend all day online why can't I answer a few questions
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i'm going to assume u have first hand experience with this so i'll trust you, thanks.
for now im going to update the phone and unlock the bootloader later
Techguy777 said:
That is correct and I understand why you asked I asked the same thing because on Samsung it's costed me kernels by updating without knowing. Only get ready for an extremely difficult time trying to ask questions or get any type of help from people on this device. There's dozens of rom, kernels, and about 4 custom recoveries now and no one and mean no one will answer questions with any real information. They will just say stuff like yes if that most times. I'm a big believer in helping people because I spend all day online why can't I answer a few questions
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I guess the xda community isn't like what it used to be.... Thanks for at least keeping the spirit to help out around here