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Hi All,
I currently have a Motorola Milestone (international version of the droid) and I was wondering if I should update to the Galaxy Nexus. Acknowledging the fact that I can only classify my phone as "usable" if I have a rom which runs Froyo and is overclocked from 550mhz to 1GHz (The Froyo Mod by 89luca89). As a result of these tweaks and the overclock, my phone only lasts about 6-7 hours with a considerable amount of usage which is far to little for my expectations. I live in Canada and if I were to get a new phone it would at least be on a 2 year contract on Bell. Looking at the specs of the Galaxy Nexus it doesn't compare too much above the competition, and in terms of raw specs I believe that some competitors could easily surpass the performance of the Galaxy Nexus which essentially means that eventually, it won't be as great and would compare to other products (e.g. iPhone 2G against iPhone 4).
Okay, so at this point it seems as though I have made my decision to wait for longer but....
Although the Galaxy Nexus compared to a lot of the other competition seems to have underwhelming specs, it is still the first ice cream sandwich phone which Google and Samsung collaborated upon which means that the software would be tailored specifically for the hardware and vice versa. Also, I believe that the developer base would probably be extremely huge because of the number of consumers purchasing this product and the huge interest for developers with the newest version of Android. ( I mean look at the Nexus One!) Now another probem that I see with the Galaxy Nexus is that the GPU is 4 years outdated so it might not be the best phone to get but then again how many games do you really play on your phone? (I think the GPU is identical to the GPU in the Nexus S but apparently the processor is more-so tailored for multitasking and better performance, but not gaming)
As you can clearly see I'm at cross-roads and I seriously need some opinions.
My question to you guys is:
Should I get the Galaxy Nexus (on Bell's network) when it comes out in Canada or should I wait for a successor or a faster alternative such as the Samsung Galaxy S3.
Thanks, and your opinions are greatly appreciated
every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it
If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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specs are only part of a phone, motorola likes locking down their phones pretty tight, and god knows how they will provide updates
slowz3r said:
every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it
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I don't mind spending the money at all but I'm just afraid that it will get outdated too quickly because of the specs
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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The specs are pretty similar to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'd assume that the Galaxy Nexus would have much more developers which is good for me because I love mods, themes, roms, etc. Also I honestly don't want to wait that long to get ice cream sandwich and also motorola might ruin the entire experience if they add blur.
Thanks for your opinions guys, I think it is fairly evident that I am heading towards the Nexus Prime I probably have to wait for a very long time though since I don't think a GSM version with LTE will be available on Bell's network that fast
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
SophT said:
As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.
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As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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Yeah now I'm like 95% sure I'm going for the HTC Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus
drae52 said:
This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.
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I wouldn't get the GS2 though I would rather go for something like the Rezound just because it seems like old news now But I'm now debating whether fire power is more important or a higher developer base (in terms of both apps and roms) and newer OS
search for my post on the sub par hardware thread in the GN general forums. u will be convinced.
If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.
I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying
BrianDigital said:
I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying
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But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
kanariya said:
If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.
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It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising
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But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising
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It's all up to you for what you think is more important.
I would take the pure Android experience, guaranteed timely updates over better spec on paper. The real world performance might be differ as ICS is optimized for the OMAP instead of the Exynos.
I would still take my Nexus S over any non Nexus device out there on the market today.
There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.
Dragooon123 said:
Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.
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Agreed. I really do hate TouchWiz with a passion.
I flashed CM7 on my SGS2 and loving it over the stock TW rom, also if there are some bugs (like BT sleep problem, and headphone volume that don't go higher than 50% closed source thinghs) but is blazing fast and customizable.
I will never go back again on stock Sams rom, that's why I'm getting a Nexus also if I'm disappointed on the hardware part.
For sure the sgs3 will be a kick ass, but sgs2 buyer's know that some battery eating bugs was solved from developers, after several months (Android OS process).
Well these is my opinion I can be wrong against some of you for sure, but as someone sayd I prefer flexibility and customisation over pure power, and I don't play games on a phone, so for me the Nexus is a must this year.
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Simply cuz I've read nothing but how jelly bean is gonna be the next HC. Tablet special ya get me?
But either way, I feel that Google may just not even update our Gnex to key lime pie either...
Nexus S and the 4g model barely got away with getting ota ICS. which I didn't believe we'd get either.
Guess I wanna see others opinions and sources if any that jelly bean may or may not be tablet specific.
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It's way to early to speculate, but I can can almost guarantee you that Google will not release another tablet or phone specific OS. The whole point of ICS was to unify the OS across the phones and tablets. Doing something like 3.0/Honeycomb again would be a complete regression back into Developer hell, so Google has no incentive whatsoever to do something like that again. The only reason they made Honeycomb in the first place was just so they could get somewhat competitive in the tablet market because 2.3 or older on a tablet was just horrible.
I can also (almost) guarantee you that the Galaxy Nexus will see at least one major software update. I don't see hardware taking off more than it has the past couple years to the point that the GNex can't keep up for at least the next 18 months or so. But it's way to early to accurately speculate so I wouldn't even worry about it right now anyways.
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Simply cuz I've read nothing but how jelly bean is gonna be the next HC. Tablet special ya get me?
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I'd like to see where you read that? Makes absolutely no sense. All anyone has said is how big of a failure Honeycomb was an how ICS is made for both phones and tablets. Why in the world would they throw all of that away and go back to 2 different OSes for tablets and phones?
I'd say, with 1GB of RAM, dual 1.2Ghz processor and a 4.65" screen; the Galaxy Nexus will be able to keep up with innovations for a while as hardware can't progress much further without a new battery technology being developed to power the dual quad core processor, 1GB GPU, 4GB RAM, 128GB flash memory and 1080p/i screens for example.
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I'd like to see where you read that? Makes absolutely no sense. All anyone has said is how big of a failure Honeycomb was an how ICS is made for both phones and tablets. Why in the world would they throw all of that away and go back to 2 different OSes for tablets and phones?
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It was a tweet from I believe phonedog a week or so ago,
They just said they think it might go that way.
Also another tweet led me to another write up by Idk who that they wouldn't be surprised if jelly bean just never hits phone status.
Which is kinda how nexus s went from 2.3 to 4.0 ya know? Like they would just skip jelly bean all together and jump right into KLP
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It was a tweet from I believe phonedog a week or so ago,
They just said they think it might go that way.
Also another tweet led me to another write up by Idk who that they wouldn't be surprised if jelly bean just never hits phone status.
Which is kinda how nexus s went from 2.3 to 4.0 ya know? Like they would just skip jelly bean all together and jump right into KLP
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Our Nexus will most likely if not definitely get at least 1 software upgrade (the supposed Jelly Bean Update). The reason Nexus S didn't get HC was because HC was a tablet-OS and it would be counter-intuitive to port it to smaller screened and less powerful devices.
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Our Nexus will most likely if not definitely get at least 1 software upgrade (the supposed Jelly Bean Update). The reason Nexus S didn't get HC was because HC was a tablet-OS and it would be counter-intuitive to port it to smaller screened and less powerful devices.
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Oh yeah totally. They did try to get HC ported but to no avail. I kinda hope we do t get jelly bean though. I have a feeling we'll be skipped right to KLP. I came from a nexus s 4g and let me tell ya, I absolutely LOVED that damn fone. When they gave ns4g gummy rom, that was the ****. By far was the smoothest and functional rom available. There was no need for an OTA.
now I hope the same thing happens for gnex. If we get a crazy awesome aosp rom build of either JB or KLP ILL be ecstatic.
Gotta love developers. Wish I had the nogin to contribute.
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I'm perfectly happy with ICS and could care less.
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Wasnt Jellybean an April fools hoax???
DaLoona said:
Wasnt Jellybean an April fools hoax???
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Jellybean ISNT a hoax. The Supposed leadked release on 1st April, unsurprisingly, was.
ICS is barely even out and you wanna talk about JellyBean? Really? Be thankful of what you have. and no, if google releases another tablet only android os it'll be ruining what they worked so hard on for ICS, unifying tablet and phones.
Even if it isn't official...I'm sure we'll get a port.
I came from the DInc which came originally with Froyo. By the time I got my GNex I was already running ICS with hardware accel for a few months....
T4rd said:
It's way to early to speculate, but I can can almost guarantee you that Google will not release another tablet or phone specific OS. The whole point of ICS was to unify the OS across the phones and tablets. Doing something like 3.0/Honeycomb again would be a complete regression back into Developer hell, so Google has no incentive whatsoever to do something like that again. The only reason they made Honeycomb in the first place was just so they could get somewhat competitive in the tablet market because 2.3 or older on a tablet was just horrible.
I can also (almost) guarantee you that the Galaxy Nexus will see at least one major software update. I don't see hardware taking off more than it has the past couple years to the point that the GNex can't keep up for at least the next 18 months or so. But it's way to early to accurately speculate so I wouldn't even worry about it right now anyways.
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i think hardware is different... the newest nexus the gallery is outdated as it is only duel core and not quad core like htc has. But i do wish that the nexus line would be the top of the top with experimental hardware such as the first phone with hexacore cpu, quad hd screen, 1tb of onboard storage (for games and movies) 32gb of ram and 64gb of rom and eye tracking for the security along with voice security to unlock and facial as well as both must match to unlock. also 3d heads up display...
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JunyuT. said:
ICS is barely even out and you wanna talk about JellyBean? Really? Be thankful of what you have. and no, if google releases another tablet only android os it'll be ruining what they worked so hard on for ICS, unifying tablet and phones.
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i always want the newest thing which is why i also duel boot with windows 8 cp. its the see i got something first... oh samsung said i cant run ics on the of epic 4g??? well CM9 runs.... take that sammy.... but i do miss some things like the dialer from tw. as i could just swip to dial and text real cool.
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i think hardware is different... the newest nexus the gallery is outdated as it is only duel core and not quad core like htc has. But i do wish that the nexus line would be the top of the top with experimental hardware such as the first phone with hexacore cpu, quad hd screen, 1tb of onboard storage (for games and movies) 32gb of ram and 64gb of rom and eye tracking for the security along with voice security to unlock and facial as well as both must match to unlock. also 3d heads up display...
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There are not many mainstream devices running that hardware and you would like to see that in a phone? Those specs set you back a few thousand dollars in a PC so even if they squished half that in a phone it would be 1st Gen car phone size, probably $50k and you'd have to carry the battery on a dolly or segway.
bow chicka wow wow.
JunyuT. said:
ICS is barely even out and you wanna talk about JellyBean? Really? Be thankful of what you have. and no, if google releases another tablet only android os it'll be ruining what they worked so hard on for ICS, unifying tablet and phones.
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ICS has been out for 6 months.
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i think hardware is different... the newest nexus the gallery is outdated as it is only duel core and not quad core like htc has. But i do wish that the nexus line would be the top of the top with experimental hardware such as the first phone with hexacore cpu, quad hd screen, 1tb of onboard storage (for games and movies) 32gb of ram and 64gb of rom and eye tracking for the security along with voice security to unlock and facial as well as both must match to unlock. also 3d heads up display...
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They already have such a device....its called a notebook/laptop/desktopcomputer...
You obviously don't have a clue about hardware...
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sookieball said:
It was a tweet from I believe phonedog a week or so ago,
They just said they think it might go that way.
Also another tweet led me to another write up by Idk who that they wouldn't be surprised if jelly bean just never hits phone status.
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First off,
haven't you ever heard you can't believe everything you see on t.v. Well the same holds true for the internet. Google iPhone 5 rumors and look at all the photos of design ideas that "most people" believe, or at least want YOU to believe, that it will in fact be the next iPhone.
Second,
You're actually listening to a guy who calls himself Idk, aka, I don't know? I mean, that's a dead giveaway right there.
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Oh yeah totally. They did try to get HC ported but to no avail.
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I'm sure some adventurous developer did try to port 3.0 to a phone but there is a reason it was unsucessful, IT WASN'T DESIGNED FOR PHONES!
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Smokeey said:
I'm perfectly happy with ICS and could care less.
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+1 running Liquid's finest and haven't looked back since
JunyuT. said:
ICS is barely even out and you wanna talk about JellyBean? Really? Be thankful of what you have. and no, if google releases another tablet only android os it'll be ruining what they worked so hard on for ICS, unifying tablet and phones.
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Not entirely accurate is it?
there is no way google is going to go back to one OS for phones and another for tablets....just doesn't make sense.
and i have a very good feeling we will get JB, and at least, unofficially, KLP or whatever they call it.
Unfortunately for those on Verizon, with how long it's taken them to push out 4.0.4, I doubt we'll officially see many updates let alone the next Android OS
hi i got a nexus like 2 weeks ago and is it worth exchanging it to a note or s3? im a bit confused is nexus like out of the league compared to note and s3? pls help me decide
im currently running paranoid android 2.16 and having fun with it but in my case i want the best phone there is on the galaxy side
If you want to be "up to date", get the s3. The GN has been out for almost a year so I understand your confusion.
If you want the best Android experience with tons of exclusive features, stay with the GN.. It's like the ultimate Android device.
I used to be under the impression that our phone was outdated and I looked to upgrade but nothing feels better than someone walking up to me saying, "wow, what phone is that?"
Honestly, if you already have the GN, stick with it. No need to upgrade an already awesome device.
Thank you for helping me figure out which is the best phone i think ill stick with the Gnex since your right about people asking what phone are we using and i did a little research on you comment " It's like the ultimate Android device." i just found out that Gnex is the only device that is using the original jellybean really thank you for clearing up my mind
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If you want to be "up to date", get the s3. The GN has been out for almost a year so I understand your confusion.
If you want the best Android experience with tons of exclusive features, stay with the GN.. It's like the ultimate Android device.
I used to be under the impression that our phone was outdated and I looked to upgrade but nothing feels better than someone walking up to me saying, "wow, what phone is that?"
Honestly, if you already have the GN, stick with it. No need to upgrade an already awesome device.
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I recently got a Gnex as well. I didn't own an S3, but have played with a couple for extended periods. I didn't have the GNex at the time, but now that I got it, I think the vanilla android is amazing, and I wouldn't change for anything atm.
stay where you are. Ive had the s3 & ditched it for the nexus. next time to change is when the new gnex is announced.
trust me
If you get a S3 just because it is the latest thing then it won't be the latest for long - the S4 will be out early next year. Actually the "latest thing" is actually the Note 2. I passed on my awesome Note to my with 5 weeks ago to get the even more awsomener GNex. The thing about a Nexus is it can be a long term commitment as it will receive speedy updates and wont be forgotten whilst the hardware is still capable – look at the Nexus S getting JB. I don’t think I will bother with a new Android phone until the 2013 Nexus although I do fancy picking up a cheap WP8 device in spring when they slash the prices of all the unsold stock. For me to keep the same phone for more than 3-4 months is unheard of, I have had 9 in 24 months, so I must really love the Gnex!
actually this answers a lot the main reason i want a latest phone cause of support, the last android i got was the moto cliq and after 4 months support for it went no where so i was kinda disappointed and moved to the iphone and now i got the Gnex well im gonna stick with Gnex reading a good feed back from you guys :victory:
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If you get a S3 just because it is the latest thing then it won't be the latest for long - the S4 will be out early next year. Actually the "latest thing" is actually the Note 2. I passed on my awesome Note to my with 5 weeks ago to get the even more awsomener GNex. The thing about a Nexus is it can be a long term commitment as it will receive speedy updates and wont be forgotten whilst the hardware is still capable – look at the Nexus S getting JB. I don’t think I will bother with a new Android phone until the 2013 Nexus although I do fancy picking up a cheap WP8 device in spring when they slash the prices of all the unsold stock. For me to keep the same phone for more than 3-4 months is unheard of, I have had 9 in 24 months, so I must really love the Gnex!
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I'd stay with the GNex too, if you are interested in custom ROMs then the S3 wouldn't be good for you because of bad support from Samsung for their Exynos chipset. Some CyanogenMod developers have already ditched devices with Exynos due to the reason I wrote.
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im really impressed i compared the Gnex against s3 and note the Gnex runs smoother it could be cause of the project butter but wow it beats the quadcore of s3 to dust :highfive:
Hello. I'm planning to get a Galaxy Nexus and I'm wondering if it will suit my needs. What I want to do with it is make it my sole communication and social hub with some productivity tools running in the background.
What I would be doing:
Running apps in the background - Adobe reader, Dictionary, Evernote, MX Player, Currents
- I would be occasionally switching between these apps but I would just like them to run in the background
Frequent app switching - Go SMS, Tweetcaster, Flipboard, FB, Google+, KakaoTalk, Email
Do you think the 1.2 GHz dual core and 1 GB RAM of the Gnex would be sufficient for my needs?
I don't have any intention of rooting it. I also am not planning to get a Nexus 4 after all the scary problems that I discovered with it on the web.
Appreciate your replies. Thanks.
sepisepsep said:
Hello. I'm planning to get a Galaxy Nexus and I'm wondering if it will suit my needs. What I want to do with it is make it my sole communication and social hub with some productivity tools running in the background.
What I would be doing:
Running apps in the background - Adobe reader, Dictionary, Evernote, MX Player, Currents
- I would be occasionally switching between these apps but I would just like them to run in the background
Frequent app switching - Go SMS, Tweetcaster, Flipboard, FB, Google+, KakaoTalk, Email
Do you think the 1.2 GHz dual core and 1 GB RAM of the Gnex would be sufficient for my needs?
I don't have any intention of rooting it. I also am not planning to get a Nexus 4 after all the scary problems that I discovered with it on the web.
Appreciate your replies. Thanks.
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I am not sure what's your intention to keep them all running in the background.
When there is not enough memory, i feel like some apps that are running in the background automatically hibernate. So it takes about similar time to open if you don't run them in the background.
It's only a matter of a second or two as long as they run smoothly, though loading news in Currents is usually not so fast.
I would say galaxy nexus will do the job.
Well, if you're planning to keep the phone longer, I'd suggest something with 2gb of RAM, like an N4. Now if the money is the issue, GN will suffice.
Dixonism said:
I am not sure what's your intention to keep them all running in the background.
When there is not enough memory, i feel like some apps that are running in the background automatically hibernate. So it takes about similar time to open if you don't run them in the background.
It's only a matter of a second or two as long as they run smoothly, though loading news in Currents is usually not so fast.
I would say galaxy nexus will do the job.
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I just want to save those apps' states. It's like I just want them all minimized all the time.
madd0g said:
Well, if you're planning to keep the phone longer, I'd suggest something with 2gb of RAM, like an N4. Now if the money is the issue, GN will suffice.
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I love the specs of the N4 but the problems that I found on the internet (auto-reboot, touch accuracy, etc.) are what's holding me back.
This is more a Dev phone. If you don't plan on rooting and unlocking then perhaps you should look into other devices.
If you plan on doing all of what you said on this phone be sure to get an extended battery
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sepisepsep said:
I love the specs of the N4 but the problems that I found on the internet (auto-reboot, touch accuracy, etc.) are what's holding me back.
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I know 2 people with n4s and haven't heard such complaints, maybe it was the initial 4.2 release jankyness.
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You say you have no intention of rooting. If you did you could install a custom such as xylon and flash a kernel such as ak kernel and your nexus would be a powerhouse. You could also by an extended battery for about 25 dollars to get all day battery life.
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Now if the money is the issue, GN will suffice.
namtombout said:
This is more a Dev phone. If you don't plan on rooting and unlocking then perhaps you should look into other devices.
If you plan on doing all of what you said on this phone be sure to get an extended battery
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I know it's a dev phone but owning a Nexus S, I just think that the idea of "unskinned" android in Nexus devices really made a difference in the phone's performance.
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I know 2 people with n4s and haven't heard such complaints, maybe it was the initial 4.2 release jankyness.
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I see. Hm. Now that makes me think about the N4 again. What do you think of the N4's viability?
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You say you have no intention of rooting. If you did you could install a custom such as xylon and flash a kernel such as ak kernel and your nexus would be a powerhouse. You could also by an extended battery for about 25 dollars to get all day battery life.
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I also don't know how to flash roms because I'm kind of afraid of the instabilities of those. But if you could recommend one that's really stable just like the stock android, then I could learn how to flash and go for that. The reason why I'm worried about it's instability is because I'll be using the phone for both personal and business use.
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Now if the money is the issue, GN will suffice.
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It's a "semi" issue.
I bought my wife an N4 and she has had zero issues. It's been running smooth for over a month and a half. It's a nice upgrade over the Gnex. Bigger battery, nice screen, better camera. I would say that if you can afford it, get it. Have you checked the N4 forum to see what people are saying?
Saying all that, I still like the Gnex a lot. I was using an HTC One S, but when I bought my wife the N4 I thought I'd give it a shot. It can do all the things you are planning. I did have some lag on stock, so decided to flash a few different Roms. Running the latest Paranoid Android and it's super smooth.
This was the easiest phone to unlock ever, as a Nexus should be.
Goodluck with your decision.
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About N4s viability : well its a Nexus :]
Android has come so far that even if you won't play with custom stuff or even root, you'll still have a quick, good experience and best software upgradability out there.
As for the money thing, I've bought the GN 2nd hand without any signs of usage for 280€ in December. If I wanted a N4 back then it would have been about 400 (if not a bit higher because of the lack of supply). 120€ minimal price difference wasn't worth it for me, I tend to switch phones yearly (sell one, get newer one 2nd hand when it looses it's max value drop).
No idea what your price on buying the GN is, so I can't really say anything, hope my experience can give you a bit of perspective.
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I too would strongly urge you to rethink the N4 if it's in the budget. Stock vs. Stock, it's a better device than the Gnex, in my honest opinion. Play with one in person, and own it, so YOU can be the best judge of what you're getting. However, if you do decide on the Gnex, stock 4.2 runs very nicely on it (I have the Sprint Version, so 4.2.1.) and I don't think you'll be disappointed, but the N4 will definitely have more longevity than our beloved Gnex. Good luck with either decision you make!
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I bought my wife an N4 and she has had zero issues. It's been running smooth for over a month and a half. It's a nice upgrade over the Gnex. Bigger battery, nice screen, better camera. I would say that if you can afford it, get it. Have you checked the N4 forum to see what people are saying?
Saying all that, I still like the Gnex a lot. I was using an HTC One S, but when I bought my wife the N4 I thought I'd give it a shot. It can do all the things you are planning. I did have some lag on stock, so decided to flash a few different Roms. Running the latest Paranoid Android and it's super smooth.
This was the easiest phone to unlock ever, as a Nexus should be.
Goodluck with your decision.
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I just checked the N4 forum and it scared me even more upon reading the post about its screen of death issue. What kind of lag did you experienced with it? It is just on the interface, apps, or app switching? I'm more concerned here about app/task switching from time to time.
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About N4s viability : well its a Nexus :]
Android has come so far that even if you won't play with custom stuff or even root, you'll still have a quick, good experience and best software upgradability out there.
As for the money thing, I've bought the GN 2nd hand without any signs of usage for 280€ in December. If I wanted a N4 back then it would have been about 400 (if not a bit higher because of the lack of supply). 120€ minimal price difference wasn't worth it for me, I tend to switch phones yearly (sell one, get newer one 2nd hand when it looses it's max value drop).
No idea what your price on buying the GN is, so I can't really say anything, hope my experience can give you a bit of perspective.
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Did you experience any issues with it?
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I too would strongly urge you to rethink the N4 if it's in the budget. Stock vs. Stock, it's a better device than the Gnex, in my honest opinion. Play with one in person, and own it, so YOU can be the best judge of what you're getting. However, if you do decide on the Gnex, stock 4.2 runs very nicely on it (I have the Sprint Version, so 4.2.1.) and I don't think you'll be disappointed, but the N4 will definitely have more longevity than our beloved Gnex. Good luck with either decision you make!
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I actually played with one alongside with the Gnex and I can't really tell the speed's difference in terms of their interface.
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I just checked the N4 forum and it scared me even more upon reading the post about its screen of death issue. What kind of lag did you experienced with it? It is just on the interface, apps, or app switching? I'm more concerned here about app/task switching from time to time.
No lag with the N4, sorry. I meant I had some lag with my GNex running 4.2.2. My wife has never had any lag on her N4.
At the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either. I love the GNex, even though it's a bit long in the tooth. All depends on preference.
Good luck.
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There sod on every device. Including the iPhone
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While the g'nex is still a solid device I'd also recommend N4. As for issues scaring you, keep in mind that the g'nex was also plauged with reported issues. Display problems, loose USB ports, failing hardware buttons, ect...
A friend of mine bought a N4 second hand a couple months ago and hasn't had any problems, while I haven't had any problems with my g'nex.
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No lag with the N4, sorry. I meant I had some lag with my GNex running 4.2.2. My wife has never had any lag on her N4.
At the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either. I love the GNex, even though it's a bit long in the tooth. All depends on preference.
Good luck.
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I mean what lag did you experience with the GNex.
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There sod on every device. Including the iPhone
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Sorry but haven't experienced any SoD's with all of my owned devices (galaxy tab, galaxy s, nexus s)
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While the g'nex is still a solid device I'd also recommend N4. As for issues scaring you, keep in mind that the g'nex was also plauged with reported issues. Display problems, loose USB ports, failing hardware buttons, ect...
A friend of mine bought a N4 second hand a couple months ago and hasn't had any problems, while I haven't had any problems with my g'nex.
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I see. Now that ironically gave me a sense of comfort. Guess those are just really some type of quality issues, huh?
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If you'll go to Galaxy forums, you'll see tons of problems there, but that doesn't mean every device is flawed. If you sell millions of phones, of course the error rate will be more apparent, specially if it's popular. Same goes for Nexus, buyers of those phones are more aware and they visit sites like xda, so it appears the issues are widespread.
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I had just a little lag scrolling between home screens when I was on stock 4.2.2. No issues switching between applications or anything.
I rooted a couple weeks ago and have been running the latest Paranoid Android. Great battery life and zero lag.
Let us know what you decide. I definitely recommend unlocking and running a custom Rom if you get the Gnex.
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If you'll go to Galaxy forums, you'll see tons of problems there, but that doesn't mean every device is flawed. If you sell millions of phones, of course the error rate will be more apparent, specially if it's popular. Same goes for Nexus, buyers of those phones are more aware and they visit sites like xda, so it appears the issues are widespread.
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Yes, I see that but the only reason why I think it's that really widespread is due to the fact that even if you just google N4 problems compared to GNex problems, N4 really does show up a number of it.
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I had just a little lag scrolling between home screens when I was on stock 4.2.2. No issues switching between applications or anything.
I rooted a couple weeks ago and have been running the latest Paranoid Android. Great battery life and zero lag.
Let us know what you decide. I definitely recommend unlocking and running a custom Rom if you get the Gnex.
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With regards to switching apps, on a daily basis, I heard that the GNex sometimes reload the app instead of "restoring the minimized state" of the app. Any experiences?
Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
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Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
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Nexus 5 is impossible, look at past trends.
And the s4 ge is not a nexus device, it's just AOSP supported..
Correct me if I'm wrong..
What is expected is a updated nexus 7, which did not come out as of today, there is still 2 days of I/o, who knows what will happen..
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
IO had updates to a lot of existing apps. Hangouts was a little lackluster, but the Books and Music apps got big updates, and it looks like the Maps app will get one soon. And there's the new IDE and the Games framework might be quite nice. So I'm actually not all that disappointed.
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
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Bingo.:good:
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I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
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Me and you both. I'm leaning towards the Note3 unless a better option is available by September.
Just like the g1, ogdroid, hero, g2, g2x, and maybe 1 or 2 other Verizon droid phones....pure Google s4....nothing new to see here.. #stillnotanexus
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the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
If they had a new device to announce they need a new version of android. And if there was a new one they would do it at the highlight keynote. Not during the workshops.
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There's actually something bigger than a new Android version or device in this I/O.
They improve the rest except those I mentioned above.
I actually hoping for the next Android version.
And I'm still hoping they'll surprise us in the middle of another event. Hahaha. This is a silly hope, but who knows?
elnitrox said:
the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
Why would anyone in their right mind expect a nexus 5 at I/o every nexus phone to date has been released in October, and it is still only 6 months since the nexus 4 was released.
I was, however, a little disappointed not to see a nexus 7 upgrade and android 4.3, but given all the leaks, it seams 4.3 simply got delayed and we'll probably see it at some point this summer.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
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I would say that depends heavily on if you're a collector of all things Google or not
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RoyJ said:
I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
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Hang in there. There's still hope Motorola will come through with something unlocked, stock, and hot for all carriers. And no, I'm not talking about the XFON, that was revealed to have mid-grade specs. Perhaps it's big brother though, which is rumored to be launching for all carriers with similar specs to that of the newer super phones.
I'm in the same boat as you, have been sitting on my upgrade since December hoping for some news or acknowledgement of things for come for our CDMA network...
#FingersCrossed
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Saw some speculation on Android Central that Google may be moving in the direction of annual update cycles now that Android has achieved a degree of maturity and polish. I am a little dubious. Part of what has made Android great up to this point has been the fact that we don't have to wait a year for updates. Two or three updates annually keeps things fresh. I would speculate that it also helps to keep the development community involved since there is always a new challenge to be tackled, but not necessarily at the expense of all of the hard work that went into the previous iteration. Just my 2¢.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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There is no arguments over here, just correcting misinformation. Unless you are trying to tell me Nexus One is not a nexus device, then fine.
Beamed from my Maguro.
It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The S3 to S4 is a fairly large upgrade compared to the GNEX to N4. The S4 improved on virtually every aspect of the device and even shrunk the dimensions while increasing the screen size. They improved the screen, battery, camera, processor, GPU, ergonomics and added features. How is that a measly upgrade...?
I find it hard to understand that people want a complete overhaul of the devices looks in order for it be considered an "upgrade".
If they were to radically change up the overall look of the S5 people would make a million threads *****ing about the changes...
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