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Best ICS Rom for a rookie

Hi
I'm a rookie to android
i just need t know what is the best ICS rm for DINC2 without bugs r with least bugs. i mean i dont know much so i need a stable, easy to use rom.

casseer15 said:
Hi
I'm a rookie to android
i just need t know what is the best ICS rm for DINC2 without bugs r with least bugs. i mean i dont know much so i need a stable, easy to use rom.
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All ics roms for vivow have some issues. The question is do you want sense or aosp?
UKB is probably the best sense rom out right now. Sense 4, android 4.0.3. Smooth, fast, excellent battery. Camera fcs a lot for some.
For aosp, you have Kangdemnation or an older version of PA. PA is moving on to JB, but I think version 1.9.5 is ics.
Most of the problems are camera related, but many have been fixed. BT is another area of concern/ongoing development. Sound issues, too.
Search through the threads for these issues before you ask a question. Most of these threads are quite large.
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NITSUJ released an ics leak that I have found pretty bug free and stable
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jeremytn86 said:
NITSUJ released an ics leak that I have found pretty bug free and stable
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+1 I am running the leak now. I didn't mention it b/c some people are having trouble: play store, data wifi switching, etc.
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If you don't feel the need for Ice Cream Sandwich, I use Cyanogenmod 7.2 stable for my "old reliable" It's much faster than stock, better battery life, and everything works 100% for me. Just my 2 cents.

I'm pretty much a rookie myself, and wanted the most stable ics rom I could get. The UKB looked great, but I decided to try tazz's ic rom first. It sounds like it should be stable too. I just flashed it earlier today, so haven't had much time with it yet, but so far it looks great. It sucks as much as everyone in that thread promised.

In my experience, Tazz's ROM is probably the number one out there right now. Granted, you're stuck with Sense but there are some devs out there stripping Sense away from this ROM and another one. Everything works out of the box (including camera which is huge for me), but like I mentioned, you're stuck with Sense and I've personally moved to Paranoid Android 1.5a which has CM9 as a base. Works pretty great, although my ffc pictures often show up corrupt/glitchy/garbled. Now to make more posts so I can have the privilege of commenting about this bug...

jeayci said:
It sucks as much as everyone in that thread promised.
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So nice to see someone reading
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If u r on cdma then use UKB X, if on gsm use IC Tazz. Both the roms are very gud. I faced bootloop in gsm with UKB X and V.
otherwise ukb is better.

So I guess this shows my noobness, I'm wanting to root my wife's incredible 2 and not sure if she has cdma or gsm. How do I know/find out?

What's your carrier
Is it Verizon? If it is then its cdma.
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Stock GB.

My wife is about as rookie as they get. I put her on IC-Tazz.
My 2 cents.

Rushead said:
So nice to see someone reading
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LOL yeah, that was an entertaining and informative thread!

I just stuck to the Aeroevan's CM9 07/12 build with v12 kernel (pretty outdated, but I don't use the phone anymore) and gave it to my mother. So far, she's loving it to the point where she's completely oblivious to the world when she's using an app.
I woild definitely recommend Aero's CM9 build if you want a speedy rom with mostly everything working (720p recording doesn't work sadly)
But if you want an extremely stable ROM, then go for Tazz/Mac's IC Tazz ROM and have fun with the suckiness of the ROM. XD
I woukd also recommend Nit's UKB just because it's a treat and its packed with lots of Sense 4.0 goodies.
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Apparently I've gone flashing-crazy (I blame upgrading to TB Pro :laugh: ) and have also tried UKB V and can now recommend it too as rookie-safe. The only problem is I'm having so much fun trying out new roms, I'm now finding myself searching for other roms to play with...

jeayci said:
Apparently I've gone flashing-crazy (I blame upgrading to TB Pro :laugh: ) and have also tried UKB V and can now recommend it too as rookie-safe. The only problem is I'm having so much fun trying out new roms, I'm now finding myself searching for other roms to play with...
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Flash crazy? It's called flash addiction.
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Another vote for CM9!

Jizzylax said:
Flash crazy? It's called flash addiction.
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JUST HOOK IT TO MY VEINS! :screwy: :beer:
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Jizzylax said:
Flash crazy? It's called flash addiction.
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Rushead said:
JUST HOOK IT TO MY VEINS! :screwy: :beer:
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If intravenous is a new recovery option, I'm all for it! :good: Would that mean if I stopped flashing lots of roms I'd be a recovering recovery addict?

I can't see past stock jelly bean after flashing countless ROMs

Please can someone try and change my mind because I'm only disappointed and let down every time I try one .
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DAZEBOY said:
Please can someone try and change my mind because I'm only disappointed and let down every time I try one .
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What exactly are you disappointed about? Try the latest official builds of cm10 or aokp. Not a nightly or a kang.. an official build.

Try Paranoid, it looks pretty wild!

SHHHH!!!! You're not allowed to say that!
I've done the same as you. The only change I've made to stock is run nova launcher to make it a bit more purdy and personalized.
Minco is pretty nice since it's really close to stock but faster, but in the end I'd rather just run stock for peace of mind (not that Minco was unstable).

Stock based roms perform the best in my opinion. Although Bamf Paradigm and Wasabi Miui run well for me, if I run them with trinity 1344 kernel.
IMO It seems like CM and AOKP stay in the nighties phase for way too long, and bugs and stability issues take too long to fix. This has been the case on most phones I have owned. They are great innovative roms though. I find it rare when a Rom with loads and loads of features runs as good as stock based roms do. I love having features, but performance, stability and battery life are above all features for me. I can just find mods myself anyways and add them as I need.

If stock is what works best for you, run stock, there's nothing wrong with that.

Why do you want people to change your mind?
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The last ROM flashed was team baked black ROM it was OK but the force issues became very annoying .I was just asking am I doing something wrong when flashing ? I don't seem to get the same user experience from using jelly bean.There is only one feature I've used that isn't stock is fast reply which I think is brilliant and will definitely be in 4.2
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DAZEBOY said:
The last ROM flashed was team baked black ROM it was OK but the force issues became very annoying .I was just asking am I doing something wrong when flashing ? I don't seem to get the same user experience from using jelly bean.There is only one feature I've used that isn't stock is fast reply which I think is brilliant and will definitely be in 4.2
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Fast reply, I don't even know what that is but anyway, Android comes down to user preference, if you enjoy stock, then rock it dude, I've tried only a handful of roms here but stock gives the most solid performance 9 out of ten times. granted I'm running Slimbean now, but I like to flash every two weeks and this rom is pretty great aside from bootup time XD.
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i just hit 260h with no reboots. custom built from src, JRO03R, maguro. rock stable so far. gcc 4.7.0.
just saying, stock can be rock stable, and still be fast and responsive, if you're willing to tweak it and spend time testing it.
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bk201doesntexist said:
i just hit 260h with no reboots. custom built from src, JRO03R, maguro. rock stable so far. gcc 4.7.0.
just saying, stock can be rock stable, and still be fast and responsive, if you're willing to tweak it and spend time testing it.
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I've tweaked till the cows come home but I think Google have totally cracked it to be honest and early reports about 4.2 seem to suggest they've went one more step in terms of speed and look .The quick reply feature is in cm10 when you receive a SMS you get a pop up window at anytime so you can instantly reply ,must be enabled tho .
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paranoidandroid is the bomb

DAZEBOY said:
Please can someone try and change my mind because I'm only disappointed and let down every time I try one .
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i love love love stock Jelly Bean. That is what i run, so i suppose i also can not see past stock JB.
i wouldn't say i'm "disappointed" in any ROMS I've tried, just that i personally have found no need to move away from stock.

crixley said:
paranoidandroid is the bomb
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I think I might give paranoid a go tomorrow and see if I can feel the love again
But the best part of all of this is WE CAN !
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bk201doesntexist said:
i just hit 260h with no reboots. custom built from src, JRO03R, maguro. rock stable so far. gcc 4.7.0.
just saying, stock can be rock stable, and still be fast and responsive, if you're willing to tweak it and spend time testing it.
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Even with no tweaks it ran perfect for me i guess Verizon took their time for a reason, or they're just slow. Lol
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DAZEBOY said:
I think I might give paranoid a go tomorrow and see if I can feel the love again
But the best part of all of this is WE CAN !
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You won't regret it dude
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I decided to give the latest Paranoid Android a try. I am running it with the latest franco stable milestone 5. Its running pretty excellent with no bugs so far. This is an instance of a non stock ROM running pretty well. They did good on this 2.17 PA build.
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stelv said:
I decided to give the latest Paranoid Android a try. I am running it with the latest franco stable milestone 5. Its running pretty excellent with no bugs so far. This is an instance of a non stock ROM running pretty well. They did good on this 2.17 PA build.
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I've downloaded it too using the goo app but can't download the bug fix zip .I'll flash it soon hopefully it give me the bug again
I'll report back soon
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I've tried EOS, CM10, PA, for at least a few days each, and yep, I'm back on stock + Nova. Just couldn't be bothered any more with messing around with the others.

DAZEBOY said:
I've downloaded it too using the goo app but can't download the bug fix zip .I'll flash it soon hopefully it give me the bug again
I'll report back soon
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I may have spoke too soon. I cant get Bluetooth audio to work with PA. I haven't been able to download the bug fix either. Someone posted it in the PA thread but I haven't downloaded it yet
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Best rom for epic

Hello
I am new to the root world and would like to get some advice on what I should run on my phone. I am currently running cm9 stable but am having some issues. So I don't know where to go from here.
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eoliver12332 said:
Hello
I am new to the root world and would like to get some advice on what I should run on my phone. I am currently running cm9 stable but am having some issues. So I don't know where to go from here.
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Try other ROM!
You will get the best ROM in your opinion
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I see a lot of posters here cheer for CleanGB so you might wanna check that out, as for me I always like to try the latest so now I'm sticking with CM10.1 preview!

The People's ROM is a good ROM. So is CM10 stable. But I'm running latest CM10.1 ROM and its amazing.
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eoliver12332 said:
Hello
I am new to the root world and would like to get some advice on what I should run on my phone. I am currently running cm9 stable but am having some issues. So I don't know where to go from here.
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The Peoples Rom is a solid Rom with great battery life. All the CM roms have been great for me and CM10.1 is no exception, but I'd try a few to see what you like best.

Now should I just run the custom kernel and modem that comes with the cm rom? I'm having issues with mms and Wi-Fi tether
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NEVER ask what's the best ROM!
They ALL are for the users that use them. No one can tell you what is the best for YOU. You need to read and decide for yourself if a ROM suits you.
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eoliver12332 said:
Now should I just run the custom kernel and modem that comes with the cm rom? I'm having issues with mms and Wi-Fi tether
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Your modem does not change but the kernel will. The one that comes with CM10.1 is a 3.xxx based kernel and is smooth. I'd recommend running the rom as is for a few days and see how you like it.

I agree with you Kenny, but what an amazing work! everything is fast & fluid, colors are vibrant and beautiful.. I have been hanging around Epic forums for more than a year and this is the first time I saw something like this! you really had put a lot of work behind this, well done :good:

Been lurking and playing for a while now...
First off, I'm really impressed with the work the developers do here! OMG, it's giving my Epic new life and more. My wife like my phone so much, she asked me to root hers and put JB on it!
That being said, there's really a lot of choices, and almost every ROM makes a good daily driver. The question is what your threshold is for having things you're willing to put up with to get the cool new features these ROMs provide.
Here's my experience in the last 4 months - I started with CM9, and while I really liked it, I had some issues where it seemed to run hot at times. I added all the build.prop tweaks for increasing battery life, and once the stable version came out, I was pretty stoked. After a couple of weeks, I tried CM10 nightlies (my current ROM, 2013-01-20. I LOVE it! I added the 4.2 gapps camera and Gallery to enhance it a bit).
I expected the worst, because I work with developers and the term "nightlies" is never something we show to the public. In reality, aside from some initial issues with rebooting on earlier builds, it's been awesome.
This past couple of weeks, I decided to check out the waters and tried CM 10.1, and ran it for over two weeks - even put it on my wife's phone. It was like buttah until it randomly rebooted in the middle of a business call. I figure, once it goes to nightlies, I'll try it out again. Still itching, I tried ParanoidAndroid 4.1.2, and also AOKP Alpha 4.2.1 build. Both builds were stable and pretty polished, but battery life was better with CM10 - at least for the time-being. If you like to have lots of control over how your phone looks and acts, you can't go wrong with either ROM. I went back to CM10 mostly because it runs everything, especially Dead Space, which I couldn't get to work on any other ROM.
So, there's not really a "best" - it depends on what you want, and can put up with if there are issues.

most stable ROM?

I need to update my wife's DInc 2 and was wondering if anyone has suggestions on a stable ROM. I don't have time to try a bunch out for her and am not familiar with the phone. she's not techy, so it needs to work, but stock is a little boring/laggy for her.
the main things she needs to work are camera (both), tether, and pretty decent battery life.
thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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Miui v4 or viper. But viper is way too laggy. Heard desenced version of viper is good.
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casseer15 said:
Miui v4 or viper. But viper is way too laggy. Heard desenced version of viper is good.
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Thanks. I looked at viper a month ago and it looked great, but just like you said, crazy lag when I tried it. That's actually why I'm looking for something new.
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casseer15 said:
Miui v4 or viper. But viper is way too laggy. Heard desenced version of viper is good.
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Also, would you recommend a kernel with MIUI? I see you're the dev on that one. ; )
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If you want stable but don't like stock, I would suggest cm7 (mrom) or the old gingerbread miui (though this may be harder to find unless someone still has it, try rom manager). Ics and jellybean can be iffy since we never got an official release and a proper kernel.
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Miui v12.9 is stable with 0.7bfs kernel
http://roms.miui.us/vivow/MIUI.us_vivow_1.12.9_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed_buildbot.zip
Skyraider Zeus is also another stable rom
Condemned CM7.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435312

mushypizza said:
Miui v12.9 is stable with 0.7bfs kernel
http://roms.miui.us/vivow/MIUI.us_vivow_1.12.9_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed_buildbot.zip
Skyraider Zeus is also another stable rom
Condemned CM7.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435312
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I say CM7 (even their latest nightly has a lot of customizations) or Skyraider Zeus (what I am currently running). Although ICS works really well - it has its glitches which could be frustrating for someone who doesn't want to deal with workarounds.

thanks for all the replies! I've got her on miui v4 for now. she likes the miui look and theme options. if she decides she doesn't like it, I'll probably go with cm7.
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I'm currently back on Skyraider Zeus, and enjoying the stability and zippy response time, after trying various ICS Roms.
I do miss the HTC trace keyboard and the newer HTC mail app, though.

jsauder2 said:
thanks for all the replies! I've got her on miui v4 for now. she likes the miui look and theme options. if she decides she doesn't like it, I'll probably go with cm7.
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The gingerbread miui rom with aeroevans .7 kernel is nice as stated above. The only real feature missing that newer gingerbread roms have is swipe to dismiss notifications.
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Good topic. After getting bored with Cm 7.2 stable, I'm using de-sensed Viper 1.3.1, but I thinking about trying MROM. This is my work phone and Viper doesn't play nice with the device administrator security settings.
I'll miss ICS, but I won't miss having to enter my password to answer a phone call!
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+1 for Skyraider Zeus, got an iPhone and I gave my DI2 to my mom threw Skyraider on it because I didn't want to have to talk her through clearing data to make camera's work and I used it for two days while the new phone was in the mail and forgot why I stopped using it. One of the smoother/fast roms and the battery life is amazing. Easily double what I got on Viper's.

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+1 for Skyraider Zeus, got an iPhone and I gave my DI2 to my mom threw Skyraider on it because I didn't want to have to talk her through clearing data to make camera's work and I used it for two days while the new phone was in the mail and forgot why I stopped using it. One of the smoother/fast roms and the battery life is amazing. Easily double what I got on Viper's.
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awesome. I may have to try that out next...
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Latest mrom w .8 kernel is by far the best cm7 rom available. Totally functional w amazing battery life. It is all I run.
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msolaw said:
Latest mrom w .8 kernel is by far the best cm7 rom available. Totally functional w amazing battery life. It is all I run.
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Agree with this. Although I've only tried CM7 because I'm all about battery life and stability. MROM does that and more. The UI is clean and everything is zippy. It really gets the most out of this phone. Who needs ICS or Jellybean when you have a kickass rom like this?

Jeffero28 said:
Agree with this. Although I've only tried CM7 because I'm all about battery life and stability. MROM does that and more. The UI is clean and everything is zippy. It really gets the most out of this phone. Who needs ICS or Jellybean when you have a kickass rom like this?
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totally agree with you. I've had a droidx for a few years and have stuck with the gb roms the whole way. I've tried all the ics ones, but they all have their issues, even if it's just battery life. every once in awhile I even flash a froyo rom and love it...
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MROM
Incredicontrol overclocked to 1.3GHz
Zeppelinrox's V6 Supercharger and Kick Ass Kernelizer scripts
Flawless functionality, battery life, and stability.
Theme it however you want.
Good luck with the phone! It's a good one that is overlooked.
-MROM on DInc2

phonetool said:
MROM
Incredicontrol overclocked to 1.3GHz
Zeppelinrox's V6 Supercharger and Kick Ass Kernelizer scripts
Flawless functionality, battery life, and stability.
Theme it however you want.
Good luck with the phone! It's a good one that is overlooked.
-MROM on DInc2
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I have run this rom with and without the scripts, I don't see much if any difference. You don't have to use those if you don't want to. And you don't need an app to overclock, it has that in settings. But you can use that to undervolt and change I/o's. As phonetool stated, this rom runs really well on this phone. Give it a shot.
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I had been using DKStunna's Global 10.1 JB ROM build 3 as my DD for a few months and it was mostly stable. It would lag out once in a while I was managing apps, but it was pretty fast with the built-in Nova Launcher. I got tired of not having a working camcorder and since DKStunna broke his Vivow and ceased development I decided to switch to ChillyBean's ParanoidAndroid/PAC 2.19 ROM. So far it's been awesome! It has "inverted" GAPPS, Facebook, and some other core system apps, which I'm not a fan of, but it's supposedly something you can change. I have a working camcorder again (after a few tweaks), which is what I was looking for. It looks like ChillyBean broke his Vivow also so I don't know how much more development he'll be able to do, which is very sad. Anyway, I highly recommend the latest ParanoidAndroid.

EdenZero said:
I had been using DKStunna's Global 10.1 JB ROM build 3 as my DD for a few months and it was mostly stable. It would lag out once in a while I was managing apps, but it was pretty fast with the built-in Nova Launcher. I got tired of not having a working camcorder and since DKStunna broke his Vivow and ceased development I decided to switch to ChillyBean's ParanoidAndroid/PAC 2.19 ROM. So far it's been awesome! It has "inverted" GAPPS, Facebook, and some other core system apps, which I'm not a fan of, but it's supposedly something you can change. I have a working camcorder again (after a few tweaks), which is what I was looking for. It looks like ChillyBean broke his Vivow also so I don't know how much more development he'll be able to do, which is very sad. Anyway, I highly recommend the latest ParanoidAndroid.
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You don't have to change anything for the inverted gapps. Just flash the normal ones instead. Then you never have the inverted ones to begin with.
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Carbon vs liquid. Who has compared the 2

Currently using Liquid rc1 but curious about differences between it and carbon. Doesn't really seem to be much of one on the surface... Wanting to hear from people who perhaps know more about the " under the hood " differences between the two
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I'm not entirely sure, but reading the change logs should help. And if anything, NAND and test them.
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I personally had a lot of sync issues with Carbon. I switched to Liquid the other day and have really enjoyed it. I did not try the release yesterday by Carbon.
To be 100% honest, though, Team Carbon are former members of Team Liquid and the ROMs are near identical. If you try them both, it's basically the exact same layout and everything except it says " Carbon Controls" in the menu instead of " Liquid Controls".
Try then both though. It's the wonderful fallback of a Nandroid
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I actually switched about 20 minutes ago to carbon just to give it a whirl and see what is different. Aside from liquid using nova launcher, there really isn't a noticeable difference.
Carbon doesn't have any issues with lockscreen like liquid does though and that's huge for me so I think I'm gonna roll carbon for a while
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Hello. Am using liquid. But im thinking in change to carbon.
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Believe it or not I just switched to liquid today and then to carbon because I had my phone getting heated up for some reason. In terms of smoothness, both are exceptional, battery life I will have to see for a couple of days
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carbon is the best
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Currently using Liquid rc1 but curious about differences between it and carbon. Doesn't really seem to be much of one on the surface... Wanting to hear from people who perhaps know more about the " under the hood " differences between the two
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carbon is the best

I'm on liquid but the only issue I have is that my slingplayer app keeps crashing, everything else is working fine

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Liquid is the best -.-
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I honestly think this thread is highly disrespectful to BOTH teams and should be trashed.
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I reported it to a mod as being a disrespectful post with a comparison of two roms. He said if it escalates he'll shut it down. So long as people are respectful and don't trash talk any other Roms. Just point out what is good about either or and be respectful.
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mt3g said:
I reported it to a mod as being a disrespectful post with a comparison of two roms. He said if it escalates he'll shut it down. So long as people are respectful and don't trash talk any other Roms. Just point out what is good about either or and be respectful.
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Thanks couldn't get to my PC.
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All he said was he'll be watching it. People feel free to talk about the benefits of the two. Just don't bash one and up talk the other in a bad way. Its hard to constitute between the two but try your best, and make sure you're knowledgeable about what you're saying I will be coming here to say other wise if I need to lol. I know illusion in and out.
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This thread is not meant to be disrespectful. And if there is trash talking and inappropriate comments i would shut then thread down myself. In no way do i want the hard work that devs do for us for free to be trash talked. With that being said personally I think people are being a little too sensitive.
This thread is to discuss the only two 4.2.2 ROMs we have right now in a civil manner. I'm not asking for people to say one sucks and the other one is awesome. Just friendly mature conversation
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I've tried liquid before it went RC and had a few small issues with call quality. Tried different kernel but still there. Switched to carbon and all is well. Always do full wipes before flashing and actually tried several installs on liquids. I'm really having a great time on carbon. Great ROM
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I flashed both the latest versions and there are some differences. Carbon doesn't have DPI options whole LS does. LS does have the option to decrease the size of the quick tiles. There are other minor differences as well such as placement of options within the settings menu. Under the hood, I think I read LS sticks more to CM10 coding.
In terms of performance, I can not tell the difference. Both are extremely fast. Both are extremely lightweight. You really can't go wrong with either.
What I think I'm going to do is go back and forth. I'll run the latest release of each rom and wait until who ever releases first. The devs of these rooms are unbelievably talented. Don't stick to just one rom. Go back and forth and support these devs.
I'm running LS at the moment and who ever pumps out the next build, I'm going to flash it. Really can't go wrong with either. My reason for using LS at the moment is because the DPI feature. I like having chrome and Gmail in tablet mode. But I'm sure carbon will put this feature in the next build or so. In my opinion, these are the best roms out there for the GS3. Really 1A and 1B.

clninja said:
Currently using Liquid rc1 but curious about differences between it and carbon. Doesn't really seem to be much of one on the surface... Wanting to hear from people who perhaps know more about the " under the hood " differences between the two
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What is carbon and what is liquid? Are they roms? How are they different from Frosty, the ROM that I run?

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What is carbon and what is liquid? Are they roms? How are they different from Frosty, the ROM that I run?
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Frosty is based off touchwiz. Carbon and liquid smooth at both aosp based roms
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This is how I rank them in terms of stability, performance, and features
1. Rootbox
2. Liquid
3. Carbon
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I ran the liquid smooth RC... 9 I think it was? it was on 4.1.2 but never gave their 4.2.2 ROM a try before it went RC, but I had a lot of little issues with it being buggy and they just started to get to me. I eventually swapped back to cm 10 because it was more stable for my own personal experiences with it.
As for carbon, I didn't flash the first release because I wanted to watch the boards and see what issues people were having with it, but I've been on carbon since 1.1 and I really like it. It doesn't seem quite as buggy as liquid smooth did. The only exception I have to that, is the most recent release (1.4) was consistently giving me issues with regards to display timeout. It would timeout after 15 seconds (I like a short timeout) and the screen would go black, without the CRT off animation, and then it would just freeze with a faint horizontal line through the middle and the hardware buttons would still be illuminated. I could not unlock the screen or get it to turn back on, and had to pull the battery out and reboot my phone every time. I tried reflashing several times, and I continue to get the same issue so I flashed back to 1.3. No issues on this version, it runs solid.