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Guys, I'm running DJ Droid on mine, odexed, and I've enough space given I'm using Froyo's native apps on SD option using setinstalllocation on DJ Droid.
I want to try another ROM but most are deodexed and so seem to need app2sd.
I've never used this - if I use ROM Manager from my current ROM then I can partition up to 512MB ext size, and specify swap (0?) - is this enough?
Once I've partitioned the SD card, then how do I make use of it? Does it only work when you first flash an app2sd-supporting ROM on it - i.e. the ROM notices the ext partition and automatically makes use of it? Could someone help me out here? I have searched but am struggling...
Thanks
Ric
it automatically does the job when you flash the rom with the a2sd+....just have the sdcard with ext partition inserted and it will do it all on its own
lambrospower said:
it automatically does the job when you flash the rom with the a2sd+....just have the sdcard with ext partition inserted and it will do it all on its own
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So if I partition the SD card (usign ROM manager) and reboot without reflashing ROM nothing will happen, but when I next flash using a new ROM like the Neophyte one it will automagically start using app2sd without any intervention on my part? Apologies for confusion but the process seems to have evolved pretty quickly and so a lot of guides are a bit out of date...
Also, seen note of ext2 and ext3 partitions?
Thanks
Ric
landwomble said:
So if I partition the SD card (usign ROM manager) and reboot without reflashing ROM nothing will happen, but when I next flash using a new ROM like the Neophyte one it will automagically start using app2sd without any intervention on my part? Apologies for confusion but the process seems to have evolved pretty quickly and so a lot of guides are a bit out of date...
Also, seen note of ext2 and ext3 partitions?
Thanks
Ric
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I have the same question, did you manage to get the answer ?
I have already flushed the ROM and now i want to wipe and use the app2sd is it possible without flushing new ROM ?
Or i can flush the same ROM again after wipe the SD card ?
alegator23 said:
I have the same question, did you manage to get the answer ?
I have already flushed the ROM and now i want to wipe and use the app2sd is it possible without flushing new ROM ?
Or i can flush the same ROM again after wipe the SD card ?
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If your rom has a2sd AND you have your sd card partitioned, then you should be using it automatically.
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landwomble said:
So if I partition the SD card (usign ROM manager) and reboot without reflashing ROM nothing will happen, but when I next flash using a new ROM like the Neophyte one it will automagically start using app2sd without any intervention on my part? Apologies for confusion but the process seems to have evolved pretty quickly and so a lot of guides are a bit out of date...
Also, seen note of ext2 and ext3 partitions?
Thanks
Ric
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Once you've flashed a ROM of your choice, download Quick System Info from the Market, this will tell you if your A2SD is working. For example, mine says A2SD storage - Total: 473mb, Free: 255mb.
Partition problem SD card with Rom Manager
Hi guys
Thanks for the replies, but currently now i have the issue with the partition the SD card.
I am using the ROM Manager to wipe the SD, (512, swap=0).
The device is rebooted with red question mark and boots again to regular state and actually nothing happens.
Thanks for assistance.
alegator23 said:
Hi guys
Thanks for the replies, but currently now i have the issue with the partition the SD card.
I am using the ROM Manager to wipe the SD, (512, swap=0).
The device is rebooted with red question mark and boots again to regular state and actually nothing happens.
Thanks for assistance.
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And what did you EXPECT? Your apps should be on sdcard now, congrats.
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K900 said:
And what did you EXPECT? Your apps should be on sdcard now, congrats.
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Ok maybe i don't understand something
But i flushed the Leo ROM 2.0C without wiping my SD card and i didn't partition the SD card to ext2/3/4. During the flush of the ROM i got notification that the ext partitions weren't found so the app2sd+ will not be installed.
So the situation now is what i have the device with flushed rom but without the app2sd+ .
In Quick system Information i see A2SD : Information not available.
I would like to have the app2sd+ working, like i understand in order to do this i need to wipe the SD card and partition it properly -> this is the problem i can't do it with Rom Manager, because it's boot with Red question mark, after 3 sec boot again into regular device state without any changes.
If i success in wipe the SD then i can flush the new ROM which will install the app2sd+ properly.
Thanks for the assistance.
alegator23 said:
Ok maybe i don't understand something
But i flushed the Leo ROM 2.0C without wiping my SD card and i didn't partition the SD card to ext2/3/4. During the flush of the ROM i got notification that the ext partitions weren't found so the app2sd+ will not be installed.
So the situation now is what i have the device with flushed rom but without the app2sd+ .
In Quick system Information i see A2SD : Information not available.
I would like to have the app2sd+ working, like i understand in order to do this i need to wipe the SD card and partition it properly -> this is the problem i can't do it with Rom Manager, because it's boot with Red question mark, after 3 sec boot again into regular device state without any changes.
If i success in wipe the SD then i can flush the new ROM which will install the app2sd+ properly.
Thanks for the assistance.
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I guess your ROM doesn't install a2sd when no ext partition is found at install time. Reflash it, and it should detect stuff properly.
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K900 said:
I guess your ROM doesn't install a2sd when no ext partition is found at install time. Reflash it, and it should detect stuff properly.
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I tried to reflash the rom but it's the same.
I have only the option to move the app to the SD card Applications -> Manage Applications -> Move to SD.
In additional i have checked some replies which still telling to use the Rom Manager (for me it's not exactly working -> red question mark).
In additional i saw some places where it says go to recovery -> partition SD ext2/swap. I don't have this option in the recovery.
Still don't have idea how to partition my SD.
Thanks
alegator23 said:
I tried to reflash the rom but it's the same.
I have only the option to move the app to the SD card Applications -> Manage Applications -> Move to SD.
In additional i have checked some replies which still telling to use the Rom Manager (for me it's not exactly working -> red question mark).
In additional i saw some places where it says go to recovery -> partition SD ext2/swap. I don't have this option in the recovery.
Still don't have idea how to partition my SD.
Thanks
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Well, then you have probably partitioned your card wrong. Try GParted, and make sure that the ext partition goes AFTER the fat one.
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Hi all !
OK after reading a lot of stuff on the web (mainly modaco and xda), I finally understood a bit more this Apps2Sd thingy.
Like most people I have an "internal storage" problem on my desire
Now I managed to have fully rooted HTC Desire, with security off even though the bootloader is 0.9x using unrevoked. Great piece of software
Great so far, but I still have a space problem.
After further reading, I finally understood that thestandard Froyo Apps2Sd sucks and still eats up loads of internal memory because apps aren't designed to take advantage of it and a few other reasons but I digress.
So the only solution is to install the unofficial apps2sd or apps2sd+ (the ony diference being that app2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache, right ?)
However, so far, I've only read explanations about using a2sd/a2sd+ with a CUSTOM rom.
Now I know that modaco and xda custom roms are just great (used to test a few with my old acer liquid) but well I'm very satisfied of HTC stock rom indeed. Seriously, I can't see anything to change.
So, I'd like to use a2sd/a2sd+ but avoid going through wiping the phone, falshing a new rom and all...Furthermore, I took some time to link the contacts between gmail and facebook and I wouldn't like to do it again.
Is this possible to use a2sd/a2sd+ using the standard HTC rom, without having to flash a new custom rom ? And if yes, could some kindly explain me how ?
Best regards
D.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
Theres the script for apps2sd, not sure if you can just flash the .zip though.
IMO, you might not think there's anything to change until you experience the changes, just get a custom rom and reap the benefits.
No, you need init.d support. Get a custom rom.
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Pre-rooted stock Froyo with optional a2sd+.
Allright, I finally decided to use LeeDroid's rom and, so far so good ! PLenty of free phone memory, with a ton of apps !! Thanks a lot for your usefull comments.
I was in the same predicaent yesterday, but gave up as I had to go out!
I had LeeDroid with A2SD on the phone, but it still ran out of space when I installed Need For Speed... but this was probably because I didn't have my SD Card partitioned.
Am I right when I think that I have to backup my SD Card, then go into ROM Manager and simply format the card in there for A2SD?
I tried this, but I still only see my SD card as 1 partition when I look in Windows 7. Is this right - or should I see 2 partitions?
Sorry for the newb questions - but I want to get it all sorted before I start setting the phone up the way I want!!
Windows cannot see ext type partitions, so this is ok. Yeah, backup, use ROM manager to make the partition, then recopy the backup.
Get Quick System Info from the Market, you'll see there if the ext partition is used afterwards.
thed0g said:
Windows cannot see ext type partitions, so this is ok. Yeah, backup, use ROM manager to make the partition, then recopy the backup.
Get Quick System Info from the Market, you'll see there if the ext partition is used afterwards.
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Thanks for the reply.
I checked my partition with Quick System Info - and something must've gone wrong as my A2SD partition is only 16mb with only 2mb free!!
What settings am I supposed to use when I use ROM Manager to make the partition? I'm pretty sure I set the first one to 512mb and the second to 0mb like I read somewhere. Is this wrong?
Yeah, thats ok 512mb for apps and 0 for swap. Try it couple times, maybe the ROM manager didn't do it properly for the 1st time. Check with Quick System Info when its done.
Actually, you can use anything you want to format your microSDHC card. I used a computer with linux, a card reader and gparted, and I found it way more straightforward than using the phone to do the job. Gparted is included in Ubuntu and yu even have gparted live disk/usb (go to gparted.sourceforge.net. Sorry can't post links on the forum yet )
Dinaiz said:
Hi all !
OK after reading a lot of stuff on the web (mainly modaco and xda), I finally understood a bit more this Apps2Sd thingy.
Like most people I have an "internal storage" problem on my desire
Now I managed to have fully rooted HTC Desire, with security off even though the bootloader is 0.9x using unrevoked. Great piece of software
Great so far, but I still have a space problem.
After further reading, I finally understood that thestandard Froyo Apps2Sd sucks and still eats up loads of internal memory because apps aren't designed to take advantage of it and a few other reasons but I digress.
So the only solution is to install the unofficial apps2sd or apps2sd+ (the ony diference being that app2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache, right ?)
However, so far, I've only read explanations about using a2sd/a2sd+ with a CUSTOM rom.
Now I know that modaco and xda custom roms are just great (used to test a few with my old acer liquid) but well I'm very satisfied of HTC stock rom indeed. Seriously, I can't see anything to change.
So, I'd like to use a2sd/a2sd+ but avoid going through wiping the phone, falshing a new rom and all...Furthermore, I took some time to link the contacts between gmail and facebook and I wouldn't like to do it again.
Is this possible to use a2sd/a2sd+ using the standard HTC rom, without having to flash a new custom rom ? And if yes, could some kindly explain me how ?
Best regards
D.
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Hi,
i was lookin for a solution too and i found it.
I am running on stock rom froyo 2.2 on my htc desire.
16gb micro sd card. - no data loss.
Here is the steps.
HTC desire has to be rooted. and S-OFF (not sure if it works without S-OFF)
Busybox installed.
Next , download Gparted to partition your SD Card. (can run in VM )
Run Gparted, mount your card, USe Gparted to shrink your sd card. (i have my pics and videos inside the card up to 12gb.. and i shrink to 13gb.. It takes a looooong time.. about 13 mins to shink.. thank god my data is still intact..
i partition the extra 1gb.. set it as primary too and then format it as ext2... i have tried ext3 and ext4.. it cant be recognized by Desire.
put back yr SD card.. (if you use a card reader.. or can jus partition using Desire mounted as disk drive)
Next.. download. Link2SD , search in market..
Run the app and it will be able to detect and ask you to select the drive.. ext2 and press ok.
now.. use the app to link up yr app.. those with FRoyo app2sd.. u can click 'move to phone' and then use link2sd to link it..
you will start to see that your internal memory will increase as u move and link more apps using link2SD...
Now go to the link2sd option and set it to 'auto link' new installed app.
once u installed any new app.. it will be linked...
if the app is auto installed to SD card via the Froyo app2sd.. simply go to manage application and move it to phone and the use link2sd to link it..
(no.. you will not see the 1g size when u go under settings, you can check storage under the link2sd app)
Note: once u mount yr Desire as disk drive .. you will need to reboot your phone else if you install any new app.. it will be install to your real internal memory even thou it says linked... if this happens.. you might see low memory notification.. jus reboot your phone.. and when rebooted, it will be re-link automatically..
Cheers! i used to have 15mb left.. now i have 50++ mb.. and yet installed alot of apps.. without flashing a rom.. this will helps if you guys jus need more internal storage and do not wat to risk or go thru the restoration of data..
as usual... before you do anything... do a nandroid backup using clockworkmod recovery or any recovery and also titantium backup to backup the apps data in case anything goes wrong
Phone working well for the past 3 days
That's just AWESOME !! Many thanks for the tip, that's exactly what I was looking for
tester72 said:
Hi,
i was lookin for a solution too and i found it.
I am running on stock rom froyo 2.2 on my htc desire.
16gb micro sd card. - no data loss.
Here is the steps.
HTC desire has to be rooted. and S-OFF (not sure if it works without S-OFF)
Busybox installed.
Next , download Gparted to partition your SD Card. (can run in VM )
Run Gparted, mount your card, USe Gparted to shrink your sd card. (i have my pics and videos inside the card up to 12gb.. and i shrink to 13gb.. It takes a looooong time.. about 13 mins to shink.. thank god my data is still intact..
i partition the extra 1gb.. set it as primary too and then format it as ext2... i have tried ext3 and ext4.. it cant be recognized by Desire.
put back yr SD card.. (if you use a card reader.. or can jus partition using Desire mounted as disk drive)
Next.. download. Link2SD , search in market..
Run the app and it will be able to detect and ask you to select the drive.. ext2 and press ok.
now.. use the app to link up yr app.. those with FRoyo app2sd.. u can click 'move to phone' and then use link2sd to link it..
you will start to see that your internal memory will increase as u move and link more apps using link2SD...
Now go to the link2sd option and set it to 'auto link' new installed app.
once u installed any new app.. it will be linked...
if the app is auto installed to SD card via the Froyo app2sd.. simply go to manage application and move it to phone and the use link2sd to link it..
(no.. you will not see the 1g size when u go under settings, you can check storage under the link2sd app)
Note: once u mount yr Desire as disk drive .. you will need to reboot your phone else if you install any new app.. it will be install to your real internal memory even thou it says linked... if this happens.. you might see low memory notification.. jus reboot your phone.. and when rebooted, it will be re-link automatically..
Cheers! i used to have 15mb left.. now i have 50++ mb.. and yet installed alot of apps.. without flashing a rom.. this will helps if you guys jus need more internal storage and do not wat to risk or go thru the restoration of data..
as usual... before you do anything... do a nandroid backup using clockworkmod recovery or any recovery and also titantium backup to backup the apps data in case anything goes wrong
Phone working well for the past 3 days
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This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for, but the bit about installing BusyBox came as a surprise. What does that do for you here?
Thanks
John
Hi everyone.
The first thing I'm going to say is I have honestly only rooted/flashed a phone (GalaxySII) once before and that was with the help of my friend hovering over my shoulder telling me what to click and I have no clue what the heck I'm doing.
I have a Galaxy Gio GT-S5660M and I want to put CyanogenMod 7.2 on it. I've already managed to root it and I've put Clockwork Recovery on it. Here's the thing: I've noticed that there are several different types of CM7.2... (Miracle, Apocalypse, etc.) Which one should I use? In addition, can you use CM7.2 with a2sd darktremor? If not, is there still a way to partition the SD card for more internal memory?
Also, I have absolutely no clue where to go from here. I need someone to literally explain like I'm five how to do this. I have a decent knowledge of computers (less than some but probably more than most) so I'm not entirely daft on the subject but I'm quite honestly petrified to go any further than this point because I really don't want to brick my phone. (I have a spare LG Eclypse but I just don't want to have to get to that point.)
So, there you have my plea. I'm really eager to learn how to do this but I just need a bit of mentoring. I've searched the forums and I can't really find anything as in-detail as I'd like. Any and all help is appreciated.
cm7 is well.... cm7
miracle/apocalypse are pretty much cm7 with graphical/other tweaks and changes, but its based on cm7 (by phiexz)
if you want the latest cm7 you can download it at phiexz.com i recommend that one, its more pure and you can add the changes you like
do you know how to flash a rom? put it on sd card, go to recovery mode (home/power) then wipe data/cache then install zip and choose rom, then DONT REBOOT YET, wipe data and cache one more time and it will boot up nicely
and regarding the a2sd, im not sure, but i use link2sd, which is pretty much the same thing but its easier to use
partition your sd card if you havent done so (will lose everything on it so backup first if necessary) . you can use mini partition wizard, but i used clockwork recovery ( go to recovery, advanced, partition sd card, and it will ask you the size if i remember correctly, so choose based on your needs, i used 2gb because i install alot of apps and have a 32gb sd card).
using link2sd is as easy as this: install the app from market (need root of course but you should at least know this, if you dont know what root is tell me )
grant superuser permissions, and then ti will ask you to create a mount script or something along those lines, and if you are using cm7, choose ext4, then it will tell you to reboot, so do that, then you can "link" your apps (not system apps though) to the partition
oh and i have a gts5660m too ;D (canada ftw) ;D
press thanks if i helped
edit: just remembered when partitioning sd card, you also have to choose swap size, which uses the partition as "ram" so your phone can run games betters, but will damage the sd card, i personally chose 0 for that
wow i wrote a lot ._.
any cm7 rom will do depending on your liking..as for a2sd, use any partitioning software to partition any amount of space (depending on your needs) on the sdcard to ext3/ext4 extension..then get s2e from play store..you will need to reboot your phone after you activated s2e (under the settings)
The latest Phiexz.com cm7.2 is the one i am using and is awesome.
before starting though, turn off your phone, take out the sd card, put it in its adapter and insert it into a card reader (laptop or computer)
then on computer (assuming windows) download and install minitool partition wizard and use it to create a second partion on you the sd card
ex:
first partion is fat32
second partion will be ext4 size will be up to 1 gb
when finished, insert the card back into the phone, boot to clockwordmod recovery, and install the rom
Link2sd is the best for getting more app space. It keeps the system apps on internal memory for speed, but gives you choices as to which apps you download that you want to have on the sd card...
Please experiment....you won't brick your phone
GeekyKitty said:
I have a Galaxy Gio GT-S5660M and I want to put CyanogenMod 7.2 on it.
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Do not advise installing
You need to find the right rom for your phone
In total, most rom-s is for s5660 and you have s5660M
Look before you install
ROMs that are not fit s5660 s5660M
Wow. This is really helpful. I was under the impression that I needed to do a bunch of stuff with ODIN though...
Majkio said:
Do not advise installing
You need to find the right rom for your phone
In total, most rom-s is for s5660 and you have s5660M
Look before you install
ROMs that are not fit s5660 s5660M
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tried almost every single roms in the development thread on my s5660m and they seem to be working just fine..or maybe its just me
GeekyKitty said:
Wow. This is really helpful. I was under the impression that I needed to do a bunch of stuff with ODIN though...
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dont use odin on our 5660Ms i made that mistake a while back what using odin does is it changes the baseband of the phone (still not entirely sure what that is but its bad) from 5660m to 5660
only use flashable recovery zips unless the odin version is made for our canadian version
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Or just remove the baseband a.k.a AMSS portion of the tarball...
Doesn't matter what custom ROM I use, after the installation they all work until I restart the phone again (I restart the phone after clean ROM installation to see if it will boot, and it never does). After flashing any ROM I flash CronMod INT2Ext4, I have 512MB sd-ext (8GB SD Card). Can anyone help me with this? I would be thankfull.
srtjko said:
Doesn't matter what custom ROM I use, after the installation they all work until I restart the phone again (I restart the phone after clean ROM installation to see if it will boot, and it never does). After flashing any ROM I flash CronMod INT2Ext4, I have 512MB sd-ext (8GB SD Card). Can anyone help me with this? I would be thankfull.
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Why would you flash INT2EXT4 on any ROM that you flash? By the way, do you delete the already existing a2sd scripts from the ROM before flashing INT2EXT4?
dvsk69 said:
Why would you flash INT2EXT4 on any ROM that you flash? By the way, do you delete the already existing a2sd scripts from the ROM before flashing INT2EXT4?
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I flash for more internal storage, I know there are other ways, I just didn't know how to do them. And I don't delete any a2sd scrips, looks like I do most things wrong...
srtjko said:
I flash for more internal storage, I know there are other ways, I just didn't know how to do them. And I don't delete any a2sd scrips, looks like I do most things wrong...
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try flashing the rom without flashing INT2EXT4. Most roms have built in a2sd scripts, which allow you to move apps to an sd ext partition.
Also, how did you create the partition, best done with 4ext recovery or gparted.
512MB is also quite small, might want to consider 1-1.5GB.
As above, just flash Rom without another a2sd script as most have them built in or activate with terminal commands, check each thread. Which Rom are you using?
eddiehk6 said:
Also, how did you create the partition, best done with 4ext recovery or gparted.
512MB is also quite small, might want to consider 1-1.5GB.
As above, just flash Rom without another a2sd script as most have them built in or activate with terminal commands, check each thread. Which Rom are you using?
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I created the partition with CWM Recovery, I'll look for the guide and make one with 4ext.
I want to use 1Gig but that INT2EXT4 guide said that I need 100mb internal storage per every 512mb sd-ext. (and I had like 150mb free intenal)
ROM I want to use is AOKP CM10. Don't know how to activate a2sd, and I don't need to know it if 4ext recovery will do it...
srtjko said:
I created the partition with CWM Recovery, I'll look for the guide and make one with 4ext.
I want to use 1Gig but that INT2EXT4 guide said that I need 100mb internal storage per every 512mb sd-ext. (and I had like 150mb free intenal)
ROM I want to use is AOKP CM10. Don't know how to activate a2sd, and I don't need to know it if 4ext recovery will do it...
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making the partition using cwm may have been your problem. Use this guide to remake the partition. Im assuming you want to use VJ's CM10.1 ROM. If this is the case, there is no need to use INT2EXT4. Instead use the preinstalled a2sd script.
After flashing the rom, you can activate a2sd by doing the following:
Open terminal emulator provided in the rom.
Type the following commands
su
a2sd install
Y
N
Y
chromium96 said:
making the partition using cwm may have been your problem. Use this guide to remake the partition. Im assuming you want to use VJ's CM10.1 ROM. If this is the case, there is no need to use INT2EXT4. Instead use the preinstalled a2sd script.
After flashing the rom, you can activate a2sd by doing the following:
Open terminal emulator provided in the rom.
Type the following commands
su
a2sd install
Y
N
Y
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Yes, that's the guide I'm looking into now, but the ROM I want to use is VJs AOKP ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863780
It doesn't have a2sd I think...
srtjko said:
Yes, that's the guide I'm looking into now, but the ROM I want to use is VJs AOKP ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863780
It doesn't have a2sd I think...
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It does. And you activate it the same way, as how i said above.
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It does. And you activate it the same way, as how i said above.
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Ok, thank you, now just one more thing. I have to remove the previous sd-ext partition and I can't do that on PC cause disk managment doesn't recognize it, it shows 6.87GB free, I think it should be about 7.3GB cause its 8GB SD. Can EXT4 recovery do that or should I find some program on PC?
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I figured it out.
srtjko said:
Ok, thank you, now just one more thing. I have to remove the previous sd-ext partition and I can't do that on PC cause disk managment doesn't recognize it, it shows 6.87GB free, I think it should be about 7.3GB cause its 8GB SD. Can EXT4 recovery do that or should I find some program on PC?
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In 4ext, there is an option to "Remove all partitions and start from scratch". Im guessing that deletes/wipes your fat32 partition as well, so back your files up.
If you want to delete it without the fat32 being formated too, you can use gparted. But thats a bit time consuming and a hassle.
Can anybody here please help?
A friend of mine has this phone (Wildfire S) and I has become frustrated at the very limited storage for apps.
I have rooted phones previously myself (Xperia X10 and Xperia S) and used custom ROMs on them, but I don't have a clue how to do this on the HTC Wildfire S, OR which custom ROMs are decent. Are the KitKat 4.4 ROMs good/speedy enough for daily use?
If anyone could provide a simple way of rooting and using a custom ROM on this phone which allows more app storage space (such as on the SD card) that would be fantastic!
Many thanks
Sorry for responding to my own post, but I've now successfully unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, but I was left confused by some issues that I can't find the answers to:
With my own previous phones, Sony Xperia X10 and Xperia S, I have rooted those and run custom ROMs and kernels. However, when looking for a custom ROM for the Wildfire S, there don't seem to be any kernels. Does this mean I can use any custom ROM, be it Gingerbread 2.3 to KitKat 4.4 with the same CWM Recovery that I have on the phone right now when I rooted it? Are the kernels built in to the ROMs that are downloaded?
Also another question is how do I go about increasing the storage space on the phone now that I have rooted (be it on either the stock ROM or a Custom ROM)? My friend has a 2GB MicroSD card in the phone. If I was to install a KitKat ROM for example, how could I make sure the apps could be installed and run from the SD Card? What's an easy way to allocate a portion of the 2GB for apps??
Finally, which ROM would you recommend trying on the phone rather than the stock ROM, which is not sluggish but also very functional?
So basically to sum up:
Do I need to flash kernels to use custom ROMs?
How do I increase the storage size so that many more apps can be installed?
What is a nice, fast custom ROM that you would recommend?
I'd appreciate any information to help me on this one. Like I said, with my own personal phones, which have always been Sonys, I've got used to the rooting methods on those, but I had a lot of questions with this phone so would be grateful if somebody could help get this phone to a more functional standard.
Thanks
alex_ncfc said:
Do I need to flash kernels to use custom ROMs?
How do I increase the storage size so that many more apps can be installed?
What is a nice, fast custom ROM that you would recommend?
Thanks
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No you don't need to flash any kernels if you don't want to.
Use int2ext or Link2SD. Search about them.
The answer to the last question depends on your needs and you will have to try a bit yourself. You can start with CM10.
Thanks very much for the response aWFSuser.
1) Thanks, that's one thing I don't need to worry about then! (although, just thought, it might be nice to OverClock the CPU to 800Mhz - can I do this as standard or will I need another Kernel?)
2) I will have a read up about these, although from your experience, of the two tools you have listed, which would you say is easiest to configure? I've read before about setting up partitions on the SD card for extra app storage, but have never had to do it on my own phones
3) I will have a look around! Tempted to try some of the KitKat ROMs that I can see for download on the Development thread. If I don't have to mess around with flashing kernels, it's quite good to know that I can have many custom ROM zips on the SD card and install them without having to worry about hooking it up to the USB to flash a kernel.
Thanks again, hoping I can get some joy with this. My friend's absolute main needs with this phone is extra storage for apps - he is constantly getting "Not enough storage" errors, but I looked in his Google Play "installed list" and there was only 4 or 5 apps installed, and they were small ones!!
alex_ncfc said:
Thanks very much for the response aWFSuser.
1) Thanks, that's one thing I don't need to worry about then! (although, just thought, it might be nice to OverClock the CPU to 800Mhz - can I do this as standard or will I need another Kernel?)
2) I will have a read up about these, although from your experience, of the two tools you have listed, which would you say is easiest to configure? I've read before about setting up partitions on the SD card for extra app storage, but have never had to do it on my own phones
3) I will have a look around! Tempted to try some of the KitKat ROMs that I can see for download on the Development thread. If I don't have to mess around with flashing kernels, it's quite good to know that I can have many custom ROM zips on the SD card and install them without having to worry about hooking it up to the USB to flash a kernel.
Thanks again, hoping I can get some joy with this. My friend's absolute main needs with this phone is extra storage for apps - he is constantly getting "Not enough storage" errors, but I looked in his Google Play "installed list" and there was only 4 or 5 apps installed, and they were small ones!!
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Every ROM comes with its own kernel and most of them are overclockable. But overclocking to 800 MHz will not be a good idea if you don't want random reboots. Overclocking upto 768MHz is probably fine.
Int2ext is a script and you can flash it and forget. But Link2SD is an app which has an interface. Though it requires more configuring, it gives control on what to move and not to move and also it works in every rom I tried. I personally use Link2SD.
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Every ROM comes with its own kernel and most of them are overclockable. But overclocking to 800 MHz will not be a good idea if you don't want random reboots. Overclocking upto 768MHz is probably fine.
Int2ext is a script and you can flash it and forget. But Link2SD is an app which has an interface. Though it requires more configuring, it gives control on what to move and not to move and also it works in every rom I tried. I personally use Link2SD.
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Perfect.
Thanks for that information. Good to know that I shouldn't overclock to the "max" 800mhz!
Also, after reading around guides on flashing the ROMs, it seems I will still have to use the USB cable in order to flash each ROMs "boot.img" file, but that's not a major problem.
I will have a look at Link2SD. Is it something you do after you have installed and configured a ROM?
Thanks very much for your advice and informative replies :good:
alex_ncfc said:
Perfect.
Thanks for that information. Good to know that I shouldn't overclock to the "max" 800mhz!
Also, after reading around guides on flashing the ROMs, it seems I will still have to use the USB cable in order to flash each ROMs "boot.img" file, but that's not a major problem.
I will have a look at Link2SD. Is it something you do after you have installed and configured a ROM?
Thanks very much for your advice and informative replies :good:
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No, you don't have to flash the boot.img files. They are inside the ROM zips that you will download. You will just need to flash the rom via recovery (ofcourse after wiping).
Link2SD is just an application, you can install it any time but you still have to partition your memory card.
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No, you don't have to flash the boot.img files. They are inside the ROM zips that you will download. You will just need to flash the rom via recovery (ofcourse after wiping).
Link2SD is just an application, you can install it any time but you still have to partition your memory card.
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Thanks for the heads-up, I have since figured out I do not need to flash boot.img.
Am I able to use the 2GB card with INT2EXT? I can't quite figure out how to set up a partition.
Thank you
alex_ncfc said:
Thanks for the heads-up, I have since figured out I do not need to flash boot.img.
Am I able to use the 2GB card with INT2EXT? I can't quite figure out how to set up a partition.
Thank you
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Format the 2GB card into two partitions. The first one should be FAT32 and the 2nd one ext2. Then flash the int2ext script right after flashing the rom.
aWFSuser said:
Format the 2GB card into two partitions. The first one should be FAT32 and the 2nd one ext2. Then flash the int2ext script right after flashing the rom.
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Thanks - I have just formatted the SD card in CWM Recovery, as I don't have a MicroSD reader in order to format on my PC. Will this format it correctly so that FAT32 is the first partition and the second EXT2?
Many thanks
aWFSuser said:
Format the 2GB card into two partitions. The first one should be FAT32 and the 2nd one ext2. Then flash the int2ext script right after flashing the rom.
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I must be doing something wrong, but not sure what!!
I have partitioned the SD card using multiple different CWM recoveries and formatted the SD-EXT partition. However, whenever I flash any INT2EXT through CWM Recovery, the ROM I am using is always messed up. One ROM I try for example, after a long bootup, just has endless FCs, starting with .com.android.phone.
If I don't flash INT2EXT, it works but obviously I have very little storage.
Don't know where I am going wrong on this one. Any ideas?
alex_ncfc said:
I must be doing something wrong, but not sure what!!
I have partitioned the SD card using multiple different CWM recoveries and formatted the SD-EXT partition. However, whenever I flash any INT2EXT through CWM Recovery, the ROM I am using is always messed up. One ROM I try for example, after a long bootup, just has endless FCs, starting with .com.android.phone.
If I don't flash INT2EXT, it works but obviously I have very little storage.
Don't know where I am going wrong on this one. Any ideas?
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Are you sure you have really two partitions on the sd-card? I have never partitioned through cwm so don't know the exact procedure. You can mount the sdcard to computer via the usb cable. BTW you have to flash the script right after flashing rom. And have you tried link2sd?
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Are you sure you have really two partitions on the sd-card? I have never partitioned through cwm so don't know the exact procedure. You can mount the sdcard to computer via the usb cable. BTW you have to flash the script right after flashing rom. And have you tried link2sd?
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I am as sure as I can be that I have two partitions, because when I mount the USB storage so I can access it in Windows, the partition size is much smaller (i.e - if I create a 512MB EXT partition through CWM, Windows shows the 2GB capacity as 1.4-ish GB) However, CWM doesn't give me any indication on which type of EXT partition I am creating. I would like to create an EXT4 one, but it doesn't seem to give me the option. I can't seem to be able to see the partitions in Windows when I mount the USB storage either. I just see the FAT32 partition in Windows Disk Management.
As another update, I tried Link2SD instead of INT2EXT this morning. It picked up the fact I have another partition, but it asks me which type it is (EXT2, EXT3, etc) and as I do not know, I may be picking the wrong options. Anyway I think I managed to get apps installed into the EXT partition, but in Android's storage settings, it still shows 150MB internal storage - is this correct? When I see screenshots of others using tools like INT2EXT or Link2SD, their Storage settings seems to show the new storage size. So maybe it isn't working? Also, when I tried to install the Facebook app, although the app installed (and Link2SD said it was on the SD card) when I tried to start the app and it reads "Setting up Facebook", the system runs out of storage.
Thanks for all your help so far
alex_ncfc said:
I am as sure as I can be that I have two partitions, because when I mount the USB storage so I can access it in Windows, the partition size is much smaller (i.e - if I create a 512MB EXT partition through CWM, Windows shows the 2GB capacity as 1.4-ish GB) However, CWM doesn't give me any indication on which type of EXT partition I am creating. I would like to create an EXT4 one, but it doesn't seem to give me the option. I can't seem to be able to see the partitions in Windows when I mount the USB storage either. I just see the FAT32 partition in Windows Disk Management.
As another update, I tried Link2SD instead of INT2EXT this morning. It picked up the fact I have another partition, but it asks me which type it is (EXT2, EXT3, etc) and as I do not know, I may be picking the wrong options. Anyway I think I managed to get apps installed into the EXT partition, but in Android's storage settings, it still shows 150MB internal storage - is this correct? When I see screenshots of others using tools like INT2EXT or Link2SD, their Storage settings seems to show the new storage size. So maybe it isn't working? Also, when I tried to install the Facebook app, although the app installed (and Link2SD said it was on the SD card) when I tried to start the app and it reads "Setting up Facebook", the system runs out of storage.
Thanks for all your help so far
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Link2SD would not show the internal memory as increased, you can see that from the app itself (menu->storage info). You can enable auto-linking in settings. By the way if the app is on sdcard, then its not on the 2nd partition. To move it to the 2nd partition you have to link it. Make sure to link apk,dex and lib. If you have paid version then you can also link data. As for facebook, I have not used it in a while but it may have large amount of dex files that have to be linked. Also the data may be large. And remember to reboot if storage space runs out.
Also which rom are you on?
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Link2SD would not show the internal memory as increased, you can see that from the app itself (menu->storage info). You can enable auto-linking in settings. By the way if the app is on sdcard, then its not on the 2nd partition. To move it to the 2nd partition you have to link it. Make sure to link apk,dex and lib. If you have paid version then you can also link data. As for facebook, I have not used it in a while but it may have large amount of dex files that have to be linked. Also the data may be large. And remember to reboot if storage space runs out.
Also which rom are you on?
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Thanks to your post two posts earlier, I think I have cracked the storage thing
When it wasn't working previously, like I said, I had been doing the partitioning in CWM.
However, I managed to get the system mounted under Windows so that I could do the partitioning in Mini Partition Wizard as many recommend. Now when I install a ROM and then install Int2Ext4 straight after, the extra storage shows up in settings once the ROM is booted
ROM-wise, I have just been messing around with any I can get my hands on from the development thread, to see if I could get the storage problem sorted first and foremost, as this is the most important part for me (well, for my friend!) However, is there a favourite ROM of yours you'd recommend? I've tried so many over the last 2 days that I'm forgetting which does what! I tried a KK ROM which I thought was very slow, but also I tried an OWL 2013 ROM which was performing very well - but there is no keyboard! And I can't seem to be able to install one. If there's one you could recommend which is quite speedy, that'd be great
Thanks
alex_ncfc said:
Thanks to your post two posts earlier, I think I have cracked the storage thing
When it wasn't working previously, like I said, I had been doing the partitioning in CWM.
However, I managed to get the system mounted under Windows so that I could do the partitioning in Mini Partition Wizard as many recommend. Now when I install a ROM and then install Int2Ext4 straight after, the extra storage shows up in settings once the ROM is booted
ROM-wise, I have just been messing around with any I can get my hands on from the development thread, to see if I could get the storage problem sorted first and foremost, as this is the most important part for me (well, for my friend!) However, is there a favourite ROM of yours you'd recommend? I've tried so many over the last 2 days that I'm forgetting which does what! I tried a KK ROM which I thought was very slow, but also I tried an OWL 2013 ROM which was performing very well - but there is no keyboard! And I can't seem to be able to install one. If there's one you could recommend which is quite speedy, that'd be great
Thanks
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CM10.1 (probably owl that you mention) is good. Keyboard is probably with Gapps and you need to install it. Anyway I usually use Touchpal Keyboard which works great. KK is slow but CM10 and CM10.1 are good. For best speed use gingerbread based roms.
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CM10.1 (probably owl that you mention) is good. Keyboard is probably with Gapps and you need to install it. Anyway I usually use Touchpal Keyboard which works great. KK is slow but CM10 and CM10.1 are good. For best speed use gingerbread based roms.
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Yes I agree, the OWL has been my stable ROM for almost 2 years.. Now I am moving towards the latest CM, the Olivier's one.. Give it a look!
Thanks for the responses guys.
Which Android version/CM is Olivier's latest based on? Have you got a link to the thread?
I agree that GB ROMs will be best for speed, but I've tried a few based on JellyBean 4.2.2 and they seem very quick, I am actually shocked (for a phone with such a low processor speed etc, it runs these modern ROMs so much better than my old Sony Xperia X10)
However, one thing I notice is, despite installing GAPPS on any of the JB/KK ROMs, there are certain Google Apps missing, and I can't install them from the market either. For example, Google Search - when I look for it in the market, it says that the app is not compatible with the Android version I am running. However, I know for sure that Google Search runs on any Android version. It let me download the new Google Now Launcher, but I can't run it because it needs Google Search installed, but I can't install it from the market.
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Thanks for the responses guys.
Which Android version/CM is Olivier's latest based on? Have you got a link to the thread?
I agree that GB ROMs will be best for speed, but I've tried a few based on JellyBean 4.2.2 and they seem very quick, I am actually shocked (for a phone with such a low processor speed etc, it runs these modern ROMs so much better than my old Sony Xperia X10)
However, one thing I notice is, despite installing GAPPS on any of the JB/KK ROMs, there are certain Google Apps missing, and I can't install them from the market either. For example, Google Search - when I look for it in the market, it says that the app is not compatible with the Android version I am running. However, I know for sure that Google Search runs on any Android version. It let me download the new Google Now Launcher, but I can't run it because it needs Google Search installed, but I can't install it from the market.
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Current Google Search has official support for only armv7 devices, but our phone's processor is armv6. You can still download the apk and install but voice recognition will not work.
By olivier's latest he probably meant CM11 that you used earlier but it is slower tham 4.2.2 roms.