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I know there are threads crying about needing more space yada, yada, etc... I have read a lot of threads, but none really give a simple solution. And go ahead and flame away.. But I have rooted my phone, it was a miracle that I accomplished this. At least when I was with WinMobile and the TP2 they has simple step by step instructions on how to unlock and flash a new rom. I have the android 2.1 and always having to uninstall an app to install another because of the STUPID space limitations and the fact that I cannot install programs on my 16gb microSDHC card is making it a real pain. I should have just traded it for a 1gb card. What good is all that space I can't use? Can someone (in between flames) please direct me to a step by step method to fix this problem? I found one for the 2.2, but not 2.1.
These are the only steps I know right now that can let me store all the apps I want on a SD card and have plenty of room.
1) Sell HTC Desire
2) Buy HTC Touch Pro 2
3) Install 16gb card from the sold Desire
4) Install all the programs I want.
Simple, but right now I am regretting having sold my TP2. I like the speed of the Desire, the .1 bigger screen, But hate the limited space. So to make this thread a understandable question, here it is:
1) Can someone give me step by step instructions to let me use my SD card to make more room?
2) And can it be done with no flames?
You need to s-off first: hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805811
Than mtd partition: hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806321
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hatemenow said:
You need to s-off first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805811
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Tried this, For GSM phones only. Mine is CDMA.
for beginners, just move all apps to sd-card. go to settings, applications, select the app, select "move to sd card"
don't do that for widgets and live wallpapers, as they wont work anymore
for pro's: use apps2sd/a2sd and never run in storage space limitations again.
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for beginners, just move all apps to sd-card. go to settings, applications, select the app, select "move to sd card"
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Don't have that option to "move to sd card" I think that came with 2.2, I have 2.1 on my Desire.
Is there any reason why you still have 2.1? If you are rooted you can just flash a 2.2 rom with A2SD+, this will allow you to install the apps on your SD card.
In this thread you can chose a rom you like with A2SD+, instructions on flashing should be in the matching rom thread, just make sure that before flashing the rom, you have to partition your SD card with a ext3 partition.
To partition you SD card either use Rom Manager or Gparted (Linux software)
If you use Rom Manager you need the clockworkmod recovery image, this can be installed by using Unrevoked. Once you have the clockworkmod install, download Rom Manager from the market, in Rom Manager chose partition SD card and set ext to 512Mb and 0Mb for swap.
If this gives a /!\ in recovery you have to toggle signature verification(in recovery) under 'install zip from sd card' and try again.
Edit: don't forget partitioning your sd card will wipe everything on it
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Is there any reason why you still have 2.1? If you are rooted you can just flash a 2.2 rom with A2SD+, this will allow you to install the apps on your SD card.
In this thread you can chose a rom you like with A2SD+, instructions on flashing should be in the matching rom thread, just make sure that before flashing the rom, you have to partition your SD card with a ext3 partition.
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Hmmm I checked out the CDMA Roms there and all have something that isn't working. MMS is broken on all 4, WiFi out on some, bluetooth on another.
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To partition you SD card either use Rom Manager or Gparted (Linux software)
If you use Rom Manager you need the clockworkmod recovery image, this can be installed by using Unrevoked. Once you have the clockworkmod install, download Rom Manager from the market, in Rom Manager chose partition SD card and set ext to 512Mb and 0Mb for swap.
If this gives a /!\ in recovery you have to toggle signature verification(in recovery) under 'install zip from sd card' and try again.
Edit: don't forget partitioning your sd card will wipe everything on it
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I have Rom manager installed, used Unevoked3 on it already. So basically I guess I have to wait till USCC releases 2.2 (Suppose to by the end of this month), or someone comes out with a CDMA Rom that works 100%.
Oditius said:
Hmmm I checked out the CDMA Roms there and all have something that isn't working. MMS is broken on all 4, WiFi out on some, bluetooth on another.
I have Rom manager installed, used Unevoked3 on it already. So basically I guess I have to wait till USCC releases 2.2 (Suppose to by the end of this month), or someone comes out with a CDMA Rom that works 100%.
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after you root use rom manager to partition your sd card, beware this will erase all your data and then install the open desire rom for us cdma i hope this helps,
iv tried alot roms, but open desire to is the best.
I will try open desire. Hopefully I am doing this right. What is this about the radio? Do I have to change that too?
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partition your SD card with a ext3 partition.
Once you have the clockworkmod install, download Rom Manager from the market, in Rom Manager chose partition SD card and set ext to 512Mb and 0Mb for swap.
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Ok, but only 512mb? I have a 16gb card with plenty of room to spare. Or is 512Mb a fixed thing? 0mb for swap? Is this so the Desire automatically loads it somewhere else? Or is making it 0mb means it will expand if necessary?
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Ok, but only 512mb? I have a 16gb card with plenty of room to spare. Or is 512Mb a fixed thing? 0mb for swap? Is this so the Desire automatically loads it somewhere else? Or is making it 0mb means it will expand if necessary?
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512mb is the max rom manager can do, i have a 1.5gb ext partiton, swap isnt needed as the desire has ample ram, also sd speed are to slow for it to be useable anyway
You can do as much as you like, but i think 512 is max via Rom Manager.
you don't need to flash a new radio (thanks heavymetalmage) and don't forget before flashing the new rom, do a nandroid backup from your current rom, either via Rom Manager or recovery
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I will try open desire. Hopefully I am doing this right. What is this about the radio? Do I have to change that too?
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CM6 is fully working on the Desire, including MMS. You can find it on forum.cyanogenmod.com and go to the CDMA Desire forum. This post has a lot of great info, especially on installing darktremor's app2sd: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...ellular-desire/page__view__findpost__p__74880
DO NOT flash any radios. There are no updated radios for the CDMA Desire right now. Make sure you do a Nandroid and back up your apps with Titanium Backup to make the transition the smoothest.
I used the Rom manager to do the partitions like stated, but when I open explorer it doesn't look any different. Did I do something wrong?
No probably not, you can check with Quick System Info if it worked
Arrgggg now I can't copy anything to the drive, it may say I have 14gb free, but I don't have enough room!!!!
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No probably not, you can check with Quick System Info if it worked
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It says 14.35GB free
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It says 14.35GB free
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exactly that means that your trick worked and some the memory card can only be used for storing apps which u cannot see unless u connect your computer to a linux machine or get root explorer
kaldean said:
exactly that means that your trick worked and some the memory card can only be used for storing apps which u cannot see unless u connect your computer to a linux machine or get root explorer
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Found the problem and fixed it. Now I have 2 partitions, one 14gb the other 488mbs.
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exactly that means that your trick worked and some the memory card can only be used for storing apps which u cannot see unless u connect your computer to a linux machine or get root explorer
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and by the way even after all works out and you start saving your apps to the memory card, a small portion of the app is still going to be stored on the phone, but on the bright side i have 50+ apps installed and i still have 115 mb of internal memory left, before i rooted i had only about 20 mb left.
Hi all !
OK after reading a lot of stuff on the web (mainly modaco and xda), I finally understood a bit more this Apps2Sd thingy.
Like most people I have an "internal storage" problem on my desire
Now I managed to have fully rooted HTC Desire, with security off even though the bootloader is 0.9x using unrevoked. Great piece of software
Great so far, but I still have a space problem.
After further reading, I finally understood that thestandard Froyo Apps2Sd sucks and still eats up loads of internal memory because apps aren't designed to take advantage of it and a few other reasons but I digress.
So the only solution is to install the unofficial apps2sd or apps2sd+ (the ony diference being that app2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache, right ?)
However, so far, I've only read explanations about using a2sd/a2sd+ with a CUSTOM rom.
Now I know that modaco and xda custom roms are just great (used to test a few with my old acer liquid) but well I'm very satisfied of HTC stock rom indeed. Seriously, I can't see anything to change.
So, I'd like to use a2sd/a2sd+ but avoid going through wiping the phone, falshing a new rom and all...Furthermore, I took some time to link the contacts between gmail and facebook and I wouldn't like to do it again.
Is this possible to use a2sd/a2sd+ using the standard HTC rom, without having to flash a new custom rom ? And if yes, could some kindly explain me how ?
Best regards
D.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
Theres the script for apps2sd, not sure if you can just flash the .zip though.
IMO, you might not think there's anything to change until you experience the changes, just get a custom rom and reap the benefits.
No, you need init.d support. Get a custom rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Pre-rooted stock Froyo with optional a2sd+.
Allright, I finally decided to use LeeDroid's rom and, so far so good ! PLenty of free phone memory, with a ton of apps !! Thanks a lot for your usefull comments.
I was in the same predicaent yesterday, but gave up as I had to go out!
I had LeeDroid with A2SD on the phone, but it still ran out of space when I installed Need For Speed... but this was probably because I didn't have my SD Card partitioned.
Am I right when I think that I have to backup my SD Card, then go into ROM Manager and simply format the card in there for A2SD?
I tried this, but I still only see my SD card as 1 partition when I look in Windows 7. Is this right - or should I see 2 partitions?
Sorry for the newb questions - but I want to get it all sorted before I start setting the phone up the way I want!!
Windows cannot see ext type partitions, so this is ok. Yeah, backup, use ROM manager to make the partition, then recopy the backup.
Get Quick System Info from the Market, you'll see there if the ext partition is used afterwards.
thed0g said:
Windows cannot see ext type partitions, so this is ok. Yeah, backup, use ROM manager to make the partition, then recopy the backup.
Get Quick System Info from the Market, you'll see there if the ext partition is used afterwards.
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Thanks for the reply.
I checked my partition with Quick System Info - and something must've gone wrong as my A2SD partition is only 16mb with only 2mb free!!
What settings am I supposed to use when I use ROM Manager to make the partition? I'm pretty sure I set the first one to 512mb and the second to 0mb like I read somewhere. Is this wrong?
Yeah, thats ok 512mb for apps and 0 for swap. Try it couple times, maybe the ROM manager didn't do it properly for the 1st time. Check with Quick System Info when its done.
Actually, you can use anything you want to format your microSDHC card. I used a computer with linux, a card reader and gparted, and I found it way more straightforward than using the phone to do the job. Gparted is included in Ubuntu and yu even have gparted live disk/usb (go to gparted.sourceforge.net. Sorry can't post links on the forum yet )
Dinaiz said:
Hi all !
OK after reading a lot of stuff on the web (mainly modaco and xda), I finally understood a bit more this Apps2Sd thingy.
Like most people I have an "internal storage" problem on my desire
Now I managed to have fully rooted HTC Desire, with security off even though the bootloader is 0.9x using unrevoked. Great piece of software
Great so far, but I still have a space problem.
After further reading, I finally understood that thestandard Froyo Apps2Sd sucks and still eats up loads of internal memory because apps aren't designed to take advantage of it and a few other reasons but I digress.
So the only solution is to install the unofficial apps2sd or apps2sd+ (the ony diference being that app2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache, right ?)
However, so far, I've only read explanations about using a2sd/a2sd+ with a CUSTOM rom.
Now I know that modaco and xda custom roms are just great (used to test a few with my old acer liquid) but well I'm very satisfied of HTC stock rom indeed. Seriously, I can't see anything to change.
So, I'd like to use a2sd/a2sd+ but avoid going through wiping the phone, falshing a new rom and all...Furthermore, I took some time to link the contacts between gmail and facebook and I wouldn't like to do it again.
Is this possible to use a2sd/a2sd+ using the standard HTC rom, without having to flash a new custom rom ? And if yes, could some kindly explain me how ?
Best regards
D.
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Hi,
i was lookin for a solution too and i found it.
I am running on stock rom froyo 2.2 on my htc desire.
16gb micro sd card. - no data loss.
Here is the steps.
HTC desire has to be rooted. and S-OFF (not sure if it works without S-OFF)
Busybox installed.
Next , download Gparted to partition your SD Card. (can run in VM )
Run Gparted, mount your card, USe Gparted to shrink your sd card. (i have my pics and videos inside the card up to 12gb.. and i shrink to 13gb.. It takes a looooong time.. about 13 mins to shink.. thank god my data is still intact..
i partition the extra 1gb.. set it as primary too and then format it as ext2... i have tried ext3 and ext4.. it cant be recognized by Desire.
put back yr SD card.. (if you use a card reader.. or can jus partition using Desire mounted as disk drive)
Next.. download. Link2SD , search in market..
Run the app and it will be able to detect and ask you to select the drive.. ext2 and press ok.
now.. use the app to link up yr app.. those with FRoyo app2sd.. u can click 'move to phone' and then use link2sd to link it..
you will start to see that your internal memory will increase as u move and link more apps using link2SD...
Now go to the link2sd option and set it to 'auto link' new installed app.
once u installed any new app.. it will be linked...
if the app is auto installed to SD card via the Froyo app2sd.. simply go to manage application and move it to phone and the use link2sd to link it..
(no.. you will not see the 1g size when u go under settings, you can check storage under the link2sd app)
Note: once u mount yr Desire as disk drive .. you will need to reboot your phone else if you install any new app.. it will be install to your real internal memory even thou it says linked... if this happens.. you might see low memory notification.. jus reboot your phone.. and when rebooted, it will be re-link automatically..
Cheers! i used to have 15mb left.. now i have 50++ mb.. and yet installed alot of apps.. without flashing a rom.. this will helps if you guys jus need more internal storage and do not wat to risk or go thru the restoration of data..
as usual... before you do anything... do a nandroid backup using clockworkmod recovery or any recovery and also titantium backup to backup the apps data in case anything goes wrong
Phone working well for the past 3 days
That's just AWESOME !! Many thanks for the tip, that's exactly what I was looking for
tester72 said:
Hi,
i was lookin for a solution too and i found it.
I am running on stock rom froyo 2.2 on my htc desire.
16gb micro sd card. - no data loss.
Here is the steps.
HTC desire has to be rooted. and S-OFF (not sure if it works without S-OFF)
Busybox installed.
Next , download Gparted to partition your SD Card. (can run in VM )
Run Gparted, mount your card, USe Gparted to shrink your sd card. (i have my pics and videos inside the card up to 12gb.. and i shrink to 13gb.. It takes a looooong time.. about 13 mins to shink.. thank god my data is still intact..
i partition the extra 1gb.. set it as primary too and then format it as ext2... i have tried ext3 and ext4.. it cant be recognized by Desire.
put back yr SD card.. (if you use a card reader.. or can jus partition using Desire mounted as disk drive)
Next.. download. Link2SD , search in market..
Run the app and it will be able to detect and ask you to select the drive.. ext2 and press ok.
now.. use the app to link up yr app.. those with FRoyo app2sd.. u can click 'move to phone' and then use link2sd to link it..
you will start to see that your internal memory will increase as u move and link more apps using link2SD...
Now go to the link2sd option and set it to 'auto link' new installed app.
once u installed any new app.. it will be linked...
if the app is auto installed to SD card via the Froyo app2sd.. simply go to manage application and move it to phone and the use link2sd to link it..
(no.. you will not see the 1g size when u go under settings, you can check storage under the link2sd app)
Note: once u mount yr Desire as disk drive .. you will need to reboot your phone else if you install any new app.. it will be install to your real internal memory even thou it says linked... if this happens.. you might see low memory notification.. jus reboot your phone.. and when rebooted, it will be re-link automatically..
Cheers! i used to have 15mb left.. now i have 50++ mb.. and yet installed alot of apps.. without flashing a rom.. this will helps if you guys jus need more internal storage and do not wat to risk or go thru the restoration of data..
as usual... before you do anything... do a nandroid backup using clockworkmod recovery or any recovery and also titantium backup to backup the apps data in case anything goes wrong
Phone working well for the past 3 days
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This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for, but the bit about installing BusyBox came as a surprise. What does that do for you here?
Thanks
John
Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.
It should be that every ROM has it's own requirements for doing that.
So not every ROM can use approximately 2 GB for internal memory ?
That's what you're saying ?
Yes, for example I use 3GB on my SuperNova ROM, but recommended is 2GB so now I am trying to repair that. If you get me.
Kapiras? xD
Zealotic said:
Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.
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Euh, if you ask me I would say it's part of internal memory (when you remove it the apps on ext4 don't work anymore) but i'm not a dev so not sure though
you can see it as an extension to your internal storage capacity..
next, most of the systems to use your ext4 are already included in roms (A2SD, D2EXT) so you don't have to worry about that, they recognise the partition themselves
the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
extra: there is a nice pic near the end of THIS post what is shifted to the ext partition when you use a certain method
grtz
So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.
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So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.
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well, with the last version of sebastian15 for CM7 there's no need to flash the AD2SDX zip file, now it comes as an option during install (you'll see )
thus, first you make 2 partitions 1 ext4 of min 1024MB (mine is that size but you can do more if you'd like) an the rest of the sdcard is fat32 .. (mine: 7GB)
then download the right rom (check HBOOT, i have CM7R2 so i can install AIO v1), with Hboot its version 5.3 and you still have to flash the AD2SDX zip if you want it (A2SD is good enough for me )
oh right, don't forget a full wipe
grtz
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the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
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An external partition has nothing to do with hboot.
The only worse thing than people not helping are people helping wrong. This thread is a failure on so many levels that human vocabulary just can't cut it.
Then why don't you help me, or just point me in a right direction ?
Thanks for the answers.
Because information you seeks are essential to know before you attempt to root.
FYI, I have successfully rooted my phone.
And I have managed to install the desired ROM.
And one more question.
I have managed to make 2 partitions.
Fat32 (5,5 gb) and ext4 (2,2 gb), yet the phone recognizes only 5.5 as the SD memory. And the 2,2 are not usable ATM.
What should I do ?
Reading your last comment I can't imagine how could you possibly root it successfully on your own.
GTFO of my thread.
Zealotic, terepin is right in a way. You show no understanding of the ext partition, or flashing, or ROMs. It will never show up. Because it is a separate partition. You'll only ever see the fat32 partition in your phone under sd storage. You need to do some research before you attempt any of this.
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
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What should I do ?
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Research...
A LOT of research. And don't worry, that "Search" button doesn't bite.
At least not often...
No one said that he's not right. He's just acting like he's a god or something.
I'm just a newbie. And guess what. I managed to get 1.5 gb internal storage too.
Lock the thread please.
So in the end you didn't even need to open the thread?
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
I would like to partition my SD card in order to take advantage of memory tweaks like link2SD and dalvid2cache. I have read that you can use tools like Minitool partition wizard as well as some that are installed when you root your phone. Is there any way I can partition my SD card without having to take it out of the phone? It is kind of a pain to remove covers on the play just to get to the SD card. Besides, I worry that I might break the cover.
Also, I read somewhere that link2SD required non nand-locked (or S-off) to work. Is this true? Does this even apply to the play?
btw, I am using a rooted, stock 2.3.3 R800at
Mount the sdcard to Windows & run Minitool Partition Wizard. Resize the FAT32 partition & make an EXT4 partition of any size you'd like. Unmount it from from the PC & run Link2SD.
Link2SD doesn't require S-OFF for the Play.
To mount it, is it just the normal state when you plug in the usb cord to the PC? ie, mass storage mode? or do I need to unmount the sd card in settings somewhere first. Just want to make sure I get the order right.
What would a good size ext4 partition be on a 16 gb card?
Mass storage mode is fine. Doing so in CWM is probably better though since the OS isn't trying to access anything.
2~4GB should be fine.
Can I use CWM if I only have root? I haven't done anything other than just root via zergrush and use titanium to backup/remove a few apps.
Also, on sort of a side note, is there any program that will sync the contents of my SD card (all of them) with a corresponding folder on my PC? I know SD cards can die on you, so I would like to perform this sync on a regular basis to try and prevent phone throwing when the SD card dies.
ROM Manager.
I hate to be the guy that asks a lot of questions that should be obvious, but how does ROM Manager answer my above questions? I hope that doesn't come across as rude, I meant it from my ignorant standpoint. I looked up the app on Google Play, and it sounds like it is used for backing up your current ROM, loading new ones, and a couple of other ROM related features.
Fuegeaux said:
Can I use CWM if I only have root? I haven't done anything other than just root via zergrush and use titanium to backup/remove a few apps.
Also, on sort of a side note, is there any program that will sync the contents of my SD card (all of them) with a corresponding folder on my PC? I know SD cards can die on you, so I would like to perform this sync on a regular basis to try and prevent phone throwing when the SD card dies.
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If you get CWM installed, you can mount the sdcard while in recovery.
Use SyncToy to do the syncing
http://www.everything-microsoft.com...our-windows7-files-and-folders-using-synctoy/
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=15155
What's the difference between Rom Manager and CWM? Thanks again!
Fuegeaux said:
What's the difference between Rom Manager and CWM? Thanks again!
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ROM Manager = Android app that works with CWM. Installs CWM on phones that support it. Xperia Play isn't supported for CWM installation from the ROM Manager but the other features within it do work.
CWM = recovery image that boots when invoked via ROM Manager or at the bootloader/kernel.
Ah, so I use Rom Manager to invoke CWM-like functionality, one of which is to mount SD card when the system is able to access it, right?
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Ah, so I use Rom Manager to invoke CWM-like functionality, one of which is to mount SD card when the system is able to access it, right?
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No... you need to get into recovery mode to access CWM properly. The ROM Manager can reboot the phone to get into that mode.
I downloaded ROM Manager from the market. I see two options in ROM Manager that I think are what you are talking about. The first one is under Recovery->Reboot into Recovery. The second one is Utitilities->Partition SD Card. Can I just check the Parition SD Card option or do I need to Reboot into recovery first? Also, above Reboot into Recovery, there is an option which says "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. You must have the ClockwordMod Recovery installed to flash and restory ROMs!" But you said that the Xperia Play does not support this. I assume that I don't need to do this. (but, for future reference, I can't use ROM Manager to flash ROMs, right?)
First off, do I even need minitool Partition wizard if ROM Manager will do it for me using the Partition SD card option? Will that let me do ext4 as well as FAT32 and select differing sizes?
Second, if Partition SD card will not do what I want it to do, or do it fully, then what are the steps to do? My thought is plug phone into PC. Use ROM Manager to reboot into Recovery (using ROM Manager option). Once PC detects SD card, use Minitool Partition wizard to reformat/partition SD card with FAT32 for main portion and EXT4 for seperate portion for Link2SD use.
Will EXT4 also work for the dalvik2cache tweak?
Sorry for all of the questions and thanks again for all the help!
You need to have CWM installed that's made specifically for the Play. It CAN'T be installed from the ROM Manager.
Use this app to install it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pvy.CWMinstaler
The Partition SD Card option will erase everything on the SD card & it creates a small EXT2 or EXT3 partition. I don't recommend using it.
Use the Minitool & do as I recommended earlier on...
Don't mix dalvik2cache with any sdext script... I recommend using Link2SD or mount2SD apps for utilizing the ext4 partition to move the dalvik-cache.
I will test these things out when I get home today, or maybe this weekend if I can't find free time before then.
One thing I noticed when I went to the thread mentioned in the Xperia CWM app is that in big red letters it says "Do NOT use this recovery if you are not using stock 2.3 firmware". I guess that means when ICS comes out from Sony, we won't be able to upgrade through ROM Manager, right? This also means that going from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 would be okay using this version of CWM, right?
Also, if I wanted to upgrade to a 2.3.4 build, then ROM manager is the way to go, right?
Thanks again!!
I can't use the ROM Manager with ICS until something changes. Upgrading through CWM is always possible though, just as long as you know that spamming the home key (about 10 times) at system startup will get you into it.
Yes, ROM Manager/CWM Recovery can take care of any upgrades that don't involve flashmode or fastboot mode (ftf, img, & sin files).
Thanks again for all of your help. I find myself having more questions about ROMs, but that is kinda hijacking my own thread. Plus, I don't think I am ready to flash any ROMs just yet. I don't know, it just makes me kinda nervous doing that, plus it is a big pain having to redownload all of my apps and setting things up again.
I will try and partition my SD card soon and report back with the results.
Use Titanium Backup to capture all of your settings with the apps. Quite simple to achieve.
All right, so I finally repartitioned my SD card. I had to use FAT32 for the second partition because Link2SD did not recognize the EXT4 partition. I did make the mistake of not putting it as primary, but I fixed this and it still didn't work.
It looks like all is working, but I can't seem to link the davlik cache over, though it acts like there is none. Could I clean up the davlik cache and would that make any problems? It just seems like there is still a lot of memory being used and I can't figure out where it is coming from.
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I would like to partition my SD card in order to take advantage of memory tweaks like link2SD and dalvid2cache. I have read that you can use tools like Minitool partition wizard as well as some that are installed when you root your phone. Is there any way I can partition my SD card without having to take it out of the phone? It is kind of a pain to remove covers on the play just to get to the SD card. Besides, I worry that I might break the cover.
Also, I read somewhere that link2SD required non nand-locked (or S-off) to work. Is this true? Does this even apply to the play?
btw, I am using a rooted, stock 2.3.3 R800at
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connect your sd card to computer and use minitool partition wizard to partition your card. it is so convenient and easy to operate.
Can anybody here please help?
A friend of mine has this phone (Wildfire S) and I has become frustrated at the very limited storage for apps.
I have rooted phones previously myself (Xperia X10 and Xperia S) and used custom ROMs on them, but I don't have a clue how to do this on the HTC Wildfire S, OR which custom ROMs are decent. Are the KitKat 4.4 ROMs good/speedy enough for daily use?
If anyone could provide a simple way of rooting and using a custom ROM on this phone which allows more app storage space (such as on the SD card) that would be fantastic!
Many thanks
Sorry for responding to my own post, but I've now successfully unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, but I was left confused by some issues that I can't find the answers to:
With my own previous phones, Sony Xperia X10 and Xperia S, I have rooted those and run custom ROMs and kernels. However, when looking for a custom ROM for the Wildfire S, there don't seem to be any kernels. Does this mean I can use any custom ROM, be it Gingerbread 2.3 to KitKat 4.4 with the same CWM Recovery that I have on the phone right now when I rooted it? Are the kernels built in to the ROMs that are downloaded?
Also another question is how do I go about increasing the storage space on the phone now that I have rooted (be it on either the stock ROM or a Custom ROM)? My friend has a 2GB MicroSD card in the phone. If I was to install a KitKat ROM for example, how could I make sure the apps could be installed and run from the SD Card? What's an easy way to allocate a portion of the 2GB for apps??
Finally, which ROM would you recommend trying on the phone rather than the stock ROM, which is not sluggish but also very functional?
So basically to sum up:
Do I need to flash kernels to use custom ROMs?
How do I increase the storage size so that many more apps can be installed?
What is a nice, fast custom ROM that you would recommend?
I'd appreciate any information to help me on this one. Like I said, with my own personal phones, which have always been Sonys, I've got used to the rooting methods on those, but I had a lot of questions with this phone so would be grateful if somebody could help get this phone to a more functional standard.
Thanks
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Do I need to flash kernels to use custom ROMs?
How do I increase the storage size so that many more apps can be installed?
What is a nice, fast custom ROM that you would recommend?
Thanks
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No you don't need to flash any kernels if you don't want to.
Use int2ext or Link2SD. Search about them.
The answer to the last question depends on your needs and you will have to try a bit yourself. You can start with CM10.
Thanks very much for the response aWFSuser.
1) Thanks, that's one thing I don't need to worry about then! (although, just thought, it might be nice to OverClock the CPU to 800Mhz - can I do this as standard or will I need another Kernel?)
2) I will have a read up about these, although from your experience, of the two tools you have listed, which would you say is easiest to configure? I've read before about setting up partitions on the SD card for extra app storage, but have never had to do it on my own phones
3) I will have a look around! Tempted to try some of the KitKat ROMs that I can see for download on the Development thread. If I don't have to mess around with flashing kernels, it's quite good to know that I can have many custom ROM zips on the SD card and install them without having to worry about hooking it up to the USB to flash a kernel.
Thanks again, hoping I can get some joy with this. My friend's absolute main needs with this phone is extra storage for apps - he is constantly getting "Not enough storage" errors, but I looked in his Google Play "installed list" and there was only 4 or 5 apps installed, and they were small ones!!
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Thanks very much for the response aWFSuser.
1) Thanks, that's one thing I don't need to worry about then! (although, just thought, it might be nice to OverClock the CPU to 800Mhz - can I do this as standard or will I need another Kernel?)
2) I will have a read up about these, although from your experience, of the two tools you have listed, which would you say is easiest to configure? I've read before about setting up partitions on the SD card for extra app storage, but have never had to do it on my own phones
3) I will have a look around! Tempted to try some of the KitKat ROMs that I can see for download on the Development thread. If I don't have to mess around with flashing kernels, it's quite good to know that I can have many custom ROM zips on the SD card and install them without having to worry about hooking it up to the USB to flash a kernel.
Thanks again, hoping I can get some joy with this. My friend's absolute main needs with this phone is extra storage for apps - he is constantly getting "Not enough storage" errors, but I looked in his Google Play "installed list" and there was only 4 or 5 apps installed, and they were small ones!!
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Every ROM comes with its own kernel and most of them are overclockable. But overclocking to 800 MHz will not be a good idea if you don't want random reboots. Overclocking upto 768MHz is probably fine.
Int2ext is a script and you can flash it and forget. But Link2SD is an app which has an interface. Though it requires more configuring, it gives control on what to move and not to move and also it works in every rom I tried. I personally use Link2SD.
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Every ROM comes with its own kernel and most of them are overclockable. But overclocking to 800 MHz will not be a good idea if you don't want random reboots. Overclocking upto 768MHz is probably fine.
Int2ext is a script and you can flash it and forget. But Link2SD is an app which has an interface. Though it requires more configuring, it gives control on what to move and not to move and also it works in every rom I tried. I personally use Link2SD.
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Perfect.
Thanks for that information. Good to know that I shouldn't overclock to the "max" 800mhz!
Also, after reading around guides on flashing the ROMs, it seems I will still have to use the USB cable in order to flash each ROMs "boot.img" file, but that's not a major problem.
I will have a look at Link2SD. Is it something you do after you have installed and configured a ROM?
Thanks very much for your advice and informative replies :good:
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Perfect.
Thanks for that information. Good to know that I shouldn't overclock to the "max" 800mhz!
Also, after reading around guides on flashing the ROMs, it seems I will still have to use the USB cable in order to flash each ROMs "boot.img" file, but that's not a major problem.
I will have a look at Link2SD. Is it something you do after you have installed and configured a ROM?
Thanks very much for your advice and informative replies :good:
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No, you don't have to flash the boot.img files. They are inside the ROM zips that you will download. You will just need to flash the rom via recovery (ofcourse after wiping).
Link2SD is just an application, you can install it any time but you still have to partition your memory card.
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No, you don't have to flash the boot.img files. They are inside the ROM zips that you will download. You will just need to flash the rom via recovery (ofcourse after wiping).
Link2SD is just an application, you can install it any time but you still have to partition your memory card.
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Thanks for the heads-up, I have since figured out I do not need to flash boot.img.
Am I able to use the 2GB card with INT2EXT? I can't quite figure out how to set up a partition.
Thank you
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Thanks for the heads-up, I have since figured out I do not need to flash boot.img.
Am I able to use the 2GB card with INT2EXT? I can't quite figure out how to set up a partition.
Thank you
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Format the 2GB card into two partitions. The first one should be FAT32 and the 2nd one ext2. Then flash the int2ext script right after flashing the rom.
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Format the 2GB card into two partitions. The first one should be FAT32 and the 2nd one ext2. Then flash the int2ext script right after flashing the rom.
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Thanks - I have just formatted the SD card in CWM Recovery, as I don't have a MicroSD reader in order to format on my PC. Will this format it correctly so that FAT32 is the first partition and the second EXT2?
Many thanks
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Format the 2GB card into two partitions. The first one should be FAT32 and the 2nd one ext2. Then flash the int2ext script right after flashing the rom.
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I must be doing something wrong, but not sure what!!
I have partitioned the SD card using multiple different CWM recoveries and formatted the SD-EXT partition. However, whenever I flash any INT2EXT through CWM Recovery, the ROM I am using is always messed up. One ROM I try for example, after a long bootup, just has endless FCs, starting with .com.android.phone.
If I don't flash INT2EXT, it works but obviously I have very little storage.
Don't know where I am going wrong on this one. Any ideas?
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I must be doing something wrong, but not sure what!!
I have partitioned the SD card using multiple different CWM recoveries and formatted the SD-EXT partition. However, whenever I flash any INT2EXT through CWM Recovery, the ROM I am using is always messed up. One ROM I try for example, after a long bootup, just has endless FCs, starting with .com.android.phone.
If I don't flash INT2EXT, it works but obviously I have very little storage.
Don't know where I am going wrong on this one. Any ideas?
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Are you sure you have really two partitions on the sd-card? I have never partitioned through cwm so don't know the exact procedure. You can mount the sdcard to computer via the usb cable. BTW you have to flash the script right after flashing rom. And have you tried link2sd?
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Are you sure you have really two partitions on the sd-card? I have never partitioned through cwm so don't know the exact procedure. You can mount the sdcard to computer via the usb cable. BTW you have to flash the script right after flashing rom. And have you tried link2sd?
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I am as sure as I can be that I have two partitions, because when I mount the USB storage so I can access it in Windows, the partition size is much smaller (i.e - if I create a 512MB EXT partition through CWM, Windows shows the 2GB capacity as 1.4-ish GB) However, CWM doesn't give me any indication on which type of EXT partition I am creating. I would like to create an EXT4 one, but it doesn't seem to give me the option. I can't seem to be able to see the partitions in Windows when I mount the USB storage either. I just see the FAT32 partition in Windows Disk Management.
As another update, I tried Link2SD instead of INT2EXT this morning. It picked up the fact I have another partition, but it asks me which type it is (EXT2, EXT3, etc) and as I do not know, I may be picking the wrong options. Anyway I think I managed to get apps installed into the EXT partition, but in Android's storage settings, it still shows 150MB internal storage - is this correct? When I see screenshots of others using tools like INT2EXT or Link2SD, their Storage settings seems to show the new storage size. So maybe it isn't working? Also, when I tried to install the Facebook app, although the app installed (and Link2SD said it was on the SD card) when I tried to start the app and it reads "Setting up Facebook", the system runs out of storage.
Thanks for all your help so far
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I am as sure as I can be that I have two partitions, because when I mount the USB storage so I can access it in Windows, the partition size is much smaller (i.e - if I create a 512MB EXT partition through CWM, Windows shows the 2GB capacity as 1.4-ish GB) However, CWM doesn't give me any indication on which type of EXT partition I am creating. I would like to create an EXT4 one, but it doesn't seem to give me the option. I can't seem to be able to see the partitions in Windows when I mount the USB storage either. I just see the FAT32 partition in Windows Disk Management.
As another update, I tried Link2SD instead of INT2EXT this morning. It picked up the fact I have another partition, but it asks me which type it is (EXT2, EXT3, etc) and as I do not know, I may be picking the wrong options. Anyway I think I managed to get apps installed into the EXT partition, but in Android's storage settings, it still shows 150MB internal storage - is this correct? When I see screenshots of others using tools like INT2EXT or Link2SD, their Storage settings seems to show the new storage size. So maybe it isn't working? Also, when I tried to install the Facebook app, although the app installed (and Link2SD said it was on the SD card) when I tried to start the app and it reads "Setting up Facebook", the system runs out of storage.
Thanks for all your help so far
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Link2SD would not show the internal memory as increased, you can see that from the app itself (menu->storage info). You can enable auto-linking in settings. By the way if the app is on sdcard, then its not on the 2nd partition. To move it to the 2nd partition you have to link it. Make sure to link apk,dex and lib. If you have paid version then you can also link data. As for facebook, I have not used it in a while but it may have large amount of dex files that have to be linked. Also the data may be large. And remember to reboot if storage space runs out.
Also which rom are you on?
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Link2SD would not show the internal memory as increased, you can see that from the app itself (menu->storage info). You can enable auto-linking in settings. By the way if the app is on sdcard, then its not on the 2nd partition. To move it to the 2nd partition you have to link it. Make sure to link apk,dex and lib. If you have paid version then you can also link data. As for facebook, I have not used it in a while but it may have large amount of dex files that have to be linked. Also the data may be large. And remember to reboot if storage space runs out.
Also which rom are you on?
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Thanks to your post two posts earlier, I think I have cracked the storage thing
When it wasn't working previously, like I said, I had been doing the partitioning in CWM.
However, I managed to get the system mounted under Windows so that I could do the partitioning in Mini Partition Wizard as many recommend. Now when I install a ROM and then install Int2Ext4 straight after, the extra storage shows up in settings once the ROM is booted
ROM-wise, I have just been messing around with any I can get my hands on from the development thread, to see if I could get the storage problem sorted first and foremost, as this is the most important part for me (well, for my friend!) However, is there a favourite ROM of yours you'd recommend? I've tried so many over the last 2 days that I'm forgetting which does what! I tried a KK ROM which I thought was very slow, but also I tried an OWL 2013 ROM which was performing very well - but there is no keyboard! And I can't seem to be able to install one. If there's one you could recommend which is quite speedy, that'd be great
Thanks
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Thanks to your post two posts earlier, I think I have cracked the storage thing
When it wasn't working previously, like I said, I had been doing the partitioning in CWM.
However, I managed to get the system mounted under Windows so that I could do the partitioning in Mini Partition Wizard as many recommend. Now when I install a ROM and then install Int2Ext4 straight after, the extra storage shows up in settings once the ROM is booted
ROM-wise, I have just been messing around with any I can get my hands on from the development thread, to see if I could get the storage problem sorted first and foremost, as this is the most important part for me (well, for my friend!) However, is there a favourite ROM of yours you'd recommend? I've tried so many over the last 2 days that I'm forgetting which does what! I tried a KK ROM which I thought was very slow, but also I tried an OWL 2013 ROM which was performing very well - but there is no keyboard! And I can't seem to be able to install one. If there's one you could recommend which is quite speedy, that'd be great
Thanks
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CM10.1 (probably owl that you mention) is good. Keyboard is probably with Gapps and you need to install it. Anyway I usually use Touchpal Keyboard which works great. KK is slow but CM10 and CM10.1 are good. For best speed use gingerbread based roms.
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CM10.1 (probably owl that you mention) is good. Keyboard is probably with Gapps and you need to install it. Anyway I usually use Touchpal Keyboard which works great. KK is slow but CM10 and CM10.1 are good. For best speed use gingerbread based roms.
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Yes I agree, the OWL has been my stable ROM for almost 2 years.. Now I am moving towards the latest CM, the Olivier's one.. Give it a look!
Thanks for the responses guys.
Which Android version/CM is Olivier's latest based on? Have you got a link to the thread?
I agree that GB ROMs will be best for speed, but I've tried a few based on JellyBean 4.2.2 and they seem very quick, I am actually shocked (for a phone with such a low processor speed etc, it runs these modern ROMs so much better than my old Sony Xperia X10)
However, one thing I notice is, despite installing GAPPS on any of the JB/KK ROMs, there are certain Google Apps missing, and I can't install them from the market either. For example, Google Search - when I look for it in the market, it says that the app is not compatible with the Android version I am running. However, I know for sure that Google Search runs on any Android version. It let me download the new Google Now Launcher, but I can't run it because it needs Google Search installed, but I can't install it from the market.
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Thanks for the responses guys.
Which Android version/CM is Olivier's latest based on? Have you got a link to the thread?
I agree that GB ROMs will be best for speed, but I've tried a few based on JellyBean 4.2.2 and they seem very quick, I am actually shocked (for a phone with such a low processor speed etc, it runs these modern ROMs so much better than my old Sony Xperia X10)
However, one thing I notice is, despite installing GAPPS on any of the JB/KK ROMs, there are certain Google Apps missing, and I can't install them from the market either. For example, Google Search - when I look for it in the market, it says that the app is not compatible with the Android version I am running. However, I know for sure that Google Search runs on any Android version. It let me download the new Google Now Launcher, but I can't run it because it needs Google Search installed, but I can't install it from the market.
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Current Google Search has official support for only armv7 devices, but our phone's processor is armv6. You can still download the apk and install but voice recognition will not work.
By olivier's latest he probably meant CM11 that you used earlier but it is slower tham 4.2.2 roms.