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Application Space

I have the HTC Desire on Telus.
I have Apps2SD installed, as well as Android 2.2. Currently I am unrooted but was rooted before and the same issue.
I can move some applications to the SD card, but not all of them. Also its only part of the application. I am still running out of space all the time.
Am I missing something, how do you install and run an application from the SD card?

Root. Youre using stock a2sd which doesnt fully move the app to the sd so it still uses storage space. Root and a2sd+ is what youre after
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As I said in my post, I was Rooted before, still didn't install the full application and cache and everything to sd.

Well if you rooted but didn't partition your SD card for A2SD+, then you did nothing extra.
Root > partition SD card > reinstall ROM

Link to the instructions on how to do it exactly, make sure I do it correct this time around.
Thanks.

So I did that, you can only partition the SD card as 512MB, which is clearly the same as internal memory. Also, the applications still only move some of itself over to the sd card.......

I can't use Gparted for reasons, is there another program that does the same that works with windows?

Anyone....really......come on....

MiniTool Partition Wizard (google it) works under Windows and can create ext3 partition SD Cards. It's the only one i found that actually works, and it's free.
As an alternative, you can instal ROM Manager on your phone and use it to create ext3 partition, although it's limited to 512MB.

Thanks for that application.
So I formatted my SDcard, reinstalled the rom and I still have only 114MB free, and 2GB missing from my SDCard now...WTF

Yeah, but data will be stored on ext3 partition so you will be able to install more apps. I now have 200mb of apps, and still have 40% free in internal memory.

The new Adobe Flash update increases the already ludicrous amount of space this app takes up on your phone. Was 10.96MB, now 11.29MB.
No Froyo move to SD.

Can someone please give me instructions from start to finish on how to do this because clearly I'm doing it wrong, I have 114MB internal free with fresh install.

Just install applications, you'll see they now take way less space in phone memory. You won't see that partition as available space.
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Would still be nice to have instructions for next time.
And so your telling me there is no point to making a 2GB extra partition, since you can't move the apps fully over, that's what I thought, and this was a waste of time.

Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Evil_Cid said:
Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol

bmancell said:
Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol
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Okay....what ROM are you using? Stock 2.2 only supports Google's way of moving Apps (i.e. moving some of it and leaving the rest behind). Even with rooting, the stock ROM WILL NOT move everything to SD. So you need a new ROM which will support the A2SD feature.....so selecting a new ROM (even a modified version of the stock one) would be your first step. Make sure this ROM has support for A2SD or A2SD+....
Edit: If you do decide to make the "full" switch, it is recommended to S-OFF if possible.... I am fairly confident that you are following the right steps but the ROM isn't supporting it.

I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM. And i dont know what S-OFF is. I am assuming a way to power off.

bmancell said:
I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM.
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Have you also got a custom recovery? like ClockworkMod (can be found on the Market) or AmonRa (i don't use this).... you will need one of them if you want to enable A2SD with Oxygen ROM. This is because the oxygen ROM, by default, writes app data into the internal memory rather than into any external partitions.
Basically once you create your ext3, you have to boot into the custom recovery and flash this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2263716/dalv...2SD-signed.zip
and reboot..and that should do the trick.
That's the general summary of the steps. Read the link for more details on partitioning:
Link on SD card partitioning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910290
EDIT: Put simply, S-OFF (security off) allows you to install custom HBOOT image (such as the one I have..) which give you more space in you internal memory. Alpharev Oxygen HBOOT for example (HBOOT is the bootloader) gives around 337MB as internal space for your apps....which kinda makes EXT3 partitions unnecessary...
You have to be a bit careful with S-OFFing as newer Desire models have new security feature which makes it unsuitable to flash a new HBOOT. Read more about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583

[Q] Need help changing ROM

Hello !
I had my Desire 1 month ago but I was in vacation so I couldn't download any soft to root my phone.today, I rooted my HTC and installed ClockWork Recovery with Unrevoked , this was simple. Now I want to install a custom ROM : LeeDrOiD HD (I'll update to have Sense 3.0)
But, I see two versions : Data++ and A2SD++, What do they mean ? I kown I have to do a EXT3 1 Gb Partition on my microSD. Can I do it with my Ubuntu Linux or I have to do it with GParted Live CD ?
Thanks in advance !!!

omar93500 said:
Hello !
I had my Desire 1 month ago but I was in vacation so I couldn't download any soft to root my phone.today, I rooted my HTC and installed ClockWork Recovery with Unrevoked , this was simple. Now I want to install a custom ROM : LeeDrOiD HD (I'll update to have Sense 3.0)
But, I see two versions : Data++ and A2SD++, What do they mean ? I kown I have to do a EXT3 1 Gb Partition on my microSD. Can I do it with my Ubuntu Linux or I have to do it with GParted Live CD ?
Thanks in advance !!!
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davebugyi said:
Data++ is a technique that was first implemented and tested by ClassicalDude. Using a re-laid out nand MTD, only the davlik-cache is retained in the internal memory. All .apk's are moved to the SD-EXT partition, where they are rarely accessed. This means a HD RoM can be fit in 180MB, leaving a lot of room for userdata which will remain in the internal memory. This results in a lightning fast ROM which stays fast through with no lag whatsoever during market downloads etc. Add to this the cool fix from coolexe and baadnewz that creates a dynamically resizable ram-disk for market downloads: and you have a great RoM that doesn't need to waste space for cache and will never have a market download fail!]/quote]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992176
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A2SD+ is a script which moves all apps you install automatically to an ext partition on your sd card. You must not do anyhting. If you use "move to sd card" in application settings, the app will be moved to fat32 partition of sd card. Android can only difference between apps in " internal memoory" and in "fat32 partition of sd card". Furthermore, with A2SD+ the dalvik-cache will be also moved to the sd ext partition on your sd card (which does not happen, if the rom is only using a2sd).
To sum it up, a2sd+ moves only apps and dalvik-cache to an ext partition on your sdcard, whereas data++ also moves some system apps to it. That's the reason why roms with data++ works with less space for internal system partition.
You can use Ubuntu to partition your sd card. If gparted is not included (I do not remember, installed ubuntu some time ago), you can download it from ubuntu software center (search for "gnome partition editor").

What do you think I should choose ?

omar93500 said:
What do you think I should choose ?
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I cannot say it, I did not employ with the advantages of each script. Compare both advantages and disadvantages, and then pick.

Last question ^^,
I made a GoldCard to install the official Froyo months ago, now I want to change my microSd to a 8Go one, do I have to make it GoldCard (to install a Custom ROM) ?

omar93500 said:
Last question ^^,
I made a GoldCard to install the official Froyo months ago, now I want to change my microSd to a 8Go one, do I have to make it GoldCard (to install a Custom ROM) ?
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No. The goldcard has nothing to do with the rom. It's only connected to sd card. You can stay with the one you have.

Thanks a lot man !!

Can I get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?

Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?

Root.
10char

ricksvill said:
Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?
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1. root it (alpharev/unrevoked)
2. s-off (revolutionary)
3. NAND backup the current ROM from recovery mode
4. flash custom HBoot based on your requirement (refer to table in alpharev.nl)
[by this you get more internal memory increased, maximum you can get
332Mb for data]
5. install custom ROM of your choice which uses different scripts to move apps
to sd (s2e, a2sd, data2ext, etc....)
6. NABD backup the newly installed custom ROM
7. partition SD card for Fat32 and EXT3 (1gb) using gparted
8. reflash it the custom rom or restore from the back
you can refer to rooting guide which is available in the xda forum, below url may also help you regarding custom roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.

TVTV said:
What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.
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Not to be too pedantic but data2sd too. Still needs root
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Data2sd, needs root. Now I got 1gb internal storage
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Thank you all...

ricksvill said:
Thank you all...
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Root your phone mate, and then use a RoM with data2SD If you want to stay with HTC sense then I recommend Droidzones RoMs.
This one is Sense 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143456
And this one is Sense 1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
Note you will need a SD card class 4 and above, Read up about Gparted after you have Rooted your phone this will let you partition your Sd card Giving you upto 2GB internal Memory.
If your bored of HTC Sense, I recommend MIUI RoM its superb
Good luck

HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.

Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.

Terepin said:
Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.
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Only down side to using recovery its max size is 512MB. EASUS dont like because its windows app, I find it best to use Gparted because its Linux witch android its self is based on.

ricksvill said:
HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.
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Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.

I repartitioned my sdcard using 4ExtRecovery. 1gb ext4, and128k swap. Brilliant themable recovery.
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shankly1985 said:
Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.
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Hi everybody,
got the same problem as the person who started this thread with the memory issues. Done everything except install a custom rom, which I am about to do.
(note: currently 0n 2.3.3)
Currently have CM 7.1 downloaded on computer and going to install....BUT every instruction i see requires me to have rom manager/ clockworkmod recovery. HOWEVER, I can't install these because ''this app can't be installed in your country''. unfortunately used to this.
So does anyone by chance have any links to instructions or have instructions of how I can install this without downloading any apps, hopefully an idiot proof version.(Not worried about saving a recovery etc....phone is basically blank.)
Also would CM 7.1 be a good start?? Is there any easier rom to install that still has the apps2sd feature which is the primary point of doing all this( maybe miui).
Thanks in advance for any help.
Regards,
rkdeane

Everything you need is in the Desire Developement forum - STICKY!
You don't apps, just root (S-OFF is a good choice too) and custom recovery (like CWM, AmonRa).
Sent from my customized HTC Desire using TTP

[Q] nervous newbie with basic questions.

Hi all. Sorry for these basic questions. I only just now got round to rooting, s-off, partitioned my SD card and downloaded a new ROM (latest Leedroid)
I followed this excellent video tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Now very nervous about the final steps;
Are EXT partitions backwards compatible, ie: EXT4 ok to use as EXT3 and so on?
(I formatted my SD card with a EXT4 but the ROM I want to use says EXT3)
Do I have to re-install all my apps again once the new ROM is loaded, and what about the ones I bought? How to re-license them?
Finally, is the Baseband the same as the Radio (or where do I find Radio info on phone)
Thank you for any help.

EXT4 is faster than ext3. I am pretty sure, as long as it's an rom which is not too old it will also support ext4. A search through the rom's corresponding thread might help.
Just backup and restore your apps with titanium backup. The license from bought apps should be backed up and restored. Never read about someone who has problems at this point. If you really have problems, contact the dev of the app.
Yes, baseband is just another name for radio. You find out your one in Settings > About Phone.

Before you flash your new ROM install titanium backup. Do a batch backup of all of your apps and app data. That way, once you've flshed your new ROM you can just install titanium backup again and reinstall all of your apps and data as they'll be stored on your sd card.
As for bought apps, they should still be available anyway as they're linked to your google account. So as long as you sign in to google on your new ROM with the same account the market should recognize that you've already bought them and make them available for you again.
If it helps...

Thanks for your reply.
Say that I want to be sure and create a EXT3 partition as instructed, do I still need to keep EXT4 I created on rooting procedure?

You dont need EXT4 for Rooting (you dont need any EXT partition for this at all)
Either keep it, or delete and make EXT3 its up to you, EXT4 is slightly faster though.

Joca14 said:
Thanks for your reply.
Say that I want to be sure and create a EXT3 partition as instructed, do I still need to keep EXT4 I created on rooting procedure?
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When you followed the Desire rooting guide you mentioned did you follow step five? If you did then you will have partitioned your sd card with ext4. Basically you only need two partitions on your sd card at any time. So now you have ext4 & fat32 (the main part of your sd card will always be fat32, with a recommended 1gb of ext3 or ext4).
If you check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16808961#post16808961on you'll see that you can use ext3 or ext4 with Leedroid HD 3.3.3.
If you do want to get ext3 then just run GParted again (step 5 in the guide) and this time select ext3 instead of ext4.
Hope it helps.

zedmarcus said:
When you followed the Desire rooting guide you mentioned did you follow step five? If you did then you will have partitioned your sd card with ext4. Basically you only need two partitions on your sd card at any time. So now you have ext4 & fat32 (the main part of your sd card will always be fat32, with a recommended 1gb of ext3 or ext4).
If you check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16808961#post16808961on you'll see that you can use ext3 or ext4 with Leedroid HD 3.3.3.
If you do want to get ext3 then just run GParted again (step 5 in the guide) and this time select ext3 instead of ext4.
Hope it helps.
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I did follow step 5 and have a 1GB of EXT4 already created. I shall leave it as it is.
Is Leedroid HD 3.3.3 safe to use as a first time custom ROM?
Thanks for your help and ALL the replies.

Joca14 said:
I did follow step 5 and have a 1GB of EXT4 already created. I shall leave it as it is.
Is Leedroid HD 3.3.3 safe to use as a first time custom ROM?
Thanks for your help and ALL the replies.
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I haven't tried Leedroid myself, but from browsing the thread it has some good reviews. Closest one I've tried is InsertCoin, but it's all about trying a few and seeing what you like.
Glad I could help.

LeeDroid is safe for a first custom rom. Rather fast and have minimal lag.

Just to say thanks to all that helped / replied.
I went ahead and installed LeedRoid 3.3.3 successfully.
Took a little gamble on the radio update as the instructions did not seem to match my set-up but all is working well.
Might need to look for a ROM with bigger text size as my eyes are struggling
Cheers all

Joca14 said:
Just to say thanks to all that helped / replied.
I went ahead and installed LeedRoid 3.3.3 successfully.
Took a little gamble on the radio update as the instructions did not seem to match my set-up but all is working well.
Might need to look for a ROM with bigger text size as my eyes are struggling
Cheers all
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Get roms based on Saga or Bravo? The text should be bigger.
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[Q] what non-SD ROM can I use? Probably GB

Hi,
I want to install a ROM which does NOT need a SD card partition. Can someone please advise me?
thanks
Paul

I believe mildwilds redux rom works without an ext partition. (someone correct me if im wrong).
Why dont you want an a partition though?...more space is always a good thing, no?

csjjpm said:
Hi,
I want to install a ROM which does NOT need a SD card partition. Can someone please advise me?
thanks
Paul
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Most ROMs require an sd card partition to make the most of app space, it's not too difficult as long as it's done correctly (using gparted or 4EXT recovery)
However, SuRoot's dGB ROM was specifically designed without an sd card partition. You can use traditional froyo apps2sd to utilise all of your sd card space without partitioning. (or you can flash an a2sd script separately if you do want to use a partition with it)
To make the most of that ROM, you need to be s-off and flash the custom hboot with 60MB /system. That way you get a much larger /data partition (375MB compared to only 147MB on stock)
Details are on his site

I'm selling my Desire
... it isn't how it sounds
I mean the phone!
I've already got a ROM with a partitioned SD card but I am going to flog my Desire on t'bay and want to get it to a non-SD ROM so it isn't too confusing for some unsuspecting buyer.
thanks for the advice
Paul

csjjpm said:
... it isn't how it sounds
I mean the phone!
I've already got a ROM with a partitioned SD card but I am going to flog my Desire on t'bay and want to get it to a non-SD ROM so it isn't too confusing for some unsuspecting buyer.
thanks for the advice
Paul
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Oh, ok. Just make sure you choose a suitable hboot that will leave lots of space on /data.

Well if ur selling the phone then i personaly would put it back to stock s-on, that way who ever buys it cant complain about anything.