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[Q] noob question - created ext4 partition on SD, but how to use it?

Hi,
I've created an ext4 partition on my SD with the intention of using it to store apps on
I used the gparted method described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Now I've flashed a couple of ROM's (Oxygen, Redux and CM7) but have no idea how I can put apps on it
Additional question:
1) if you do a data, cache/dalvik wipe will the apps on the ext4 partition also be deleted or will they remain on it so you can reuse them in another ROM
2) I've rooted and s-offed my stock rom, can I use the partition I've created here as well? and if so, how?
thx
B

berre said:
Hi,
I've created an ext4 partition on my SD with the intention of using it to store apps on
I used the gparted method described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Now I've flashed a couple of ROM's (Oxygen, Redux and CM7) but have no idea how I can put apps on it
Additional question:
1) if you do a data, cache/dalvik wipe will the apps on the ext4 partition also be deleted or will they remain on it so you can reuse them in another ROM
2) I've rooted and s-offed my stock rom, can I use the partition I've created here as well? and if so, how?
thx
B
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on all 3 roms youve mentioned you tried, app2sd is automstically setup on rom install. so you are already using app2sd.
1. yes if you wipe dsata, it wipes your apps on ext 4 partition
2. and yes, your aready using your partition once your using a app2sd rom. specific roms allow you to push your dalvik cache to your partition but it is not reccommended as it can slow donw your phone.

LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
2. and yes, your aready using your partition once your using a app2sd rom. specific roms allow you to push your dalvik cache to your partition but it is not reccommended as it can slow donw your phone.
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hi,
thx for the feedback, can I install app2sd on my stock froyo rom somehow?
I'm rooted and s-offed
Thx
B

extra test: I've installed Leedroid with app2sd
when I install an app from the market my internal memory decreases and I cannot move it to SD card
I've created a 500mb partition, should this be visible as "internal memory"?
cheers
B

Some apps still need some space from the NAND internal memory.

berre said:
I've created a 500mb partition, should this be visible as "internal memory"?
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Nope. But if you download "Quick system info" from the market, you will see where it's written A2SD your external partition and its used space.

berre said:
extra test: I've installed Leedroid with app2sd
when I install an app from the market my internal memory decreases and I cannot move it to SD card
I've created a 500mb partition, should this be visible as "internal memory"?
cheers
B
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If you are like me and want to install lots of apps app2sd is not good enough sorry I was on Leedroid superb ROM but I soon ran out of install memory because even if you move app2sd say you have 20mb app and move it to SD it will move like 16mb to SD and 4mb will still be on phone.
Best way is Data2SD I use startburst and have 2gb ext4 and my phone thinks it has 2gb internal memory
Make sure you backup and have a SD card class 4 and above some say class 2 fine I dont think so.

which rom - android 2.3 + sense 3

Hi
Does a rom exist which features gingerbread 2.3 and sense UI which doesn't require a custom hboot or a partitioned SD card. I.e. will run from a fully standard rooted htc desire?
If so what is it called, if not will someone briefly explain what the extra partition is required for?
thank you
Jim

dont know if there is one without need of an ext partition.
But its very usefull!
Why you need it?
Because, Dev's have moved files from the system to the partition on the sd.
In most cases you gain much more space for apps.
If you want to know more, search the wiki or forum for : a2sd, data2sd, data2ext, and so on.
its very easy to do, but safe all your data on the sd before!
only thing you need is a 500+ free space on your sd-card
if you have a linux, you only need to install gparted
else
start a linux-livecd of your choice(maybe Gparted-livecd)
Insert your Sd into a Cardreader
if you already use gparted, its easy, there will be an fat 32 partition
click resize and move the right slider so you gain about 500mb-1gb free space
now click into the gray area and click new
than partition as ext (would suggest ext-3 (best suported))
you should be done
now you can try roms wich need ext-partition
good luck

You can run roms with standard hboot but you need an ext partition purely because you will install about 3 apps and you will run out of space. That's why they make it mandatory to have.

Jim Mc said:
Hi
Does a rom exist which features gingerbread 2.3 and sense UI which doesn't require a custom hboot or a partitioned SD card. I.e. will run from a fully standard rooted htc desire?
If so what is it called, if not will someone briefly explain what the extra partition is required for?
thank you
Jim
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Now that you know why you need EXT partition here is 1 of many tutorials how to do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9580475&postcount=2
you need 1 Fat32 partition followed by 1 EXT4 partition (recommended by most developers 1GB if you want to use sense 3.0 goodies).

I have the same question: which ROM actually gives you gingerbread and sense 3.0 at the same time? There is no problem with partitioned SD-card.
So far I have found this post from Cool Kingdom, which seems (from comments) great:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
havn't tried it yet, but just wondering if there is anything to choose from?
PS: is there a way to partition my SD card without card reader, just using the phone itself?
Thanks a lot

UelskiD said:
PS: is there a way to partition my SD card without card reader, just using the phone itself?
Thanks a lot
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New versions of ClockworkMod Recovery can do it under Advanced/Partition SD.

You can install InsertCoin - it's a great gingerbread and sense 3.0 rom. I've been using it for over a month and it's great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
About the ext partition - I think it's a must. You'll get plenty of space for apps...

Looking at the Cool Kingdom rom on youtube, it seems pretty laggy in comparison to the InsertCoin rom I have installed on my desire. InsertCoin seems to be more optimised I find, but you'll need to install the nightly version to have 3D widgets and the 3D homescreen.

Can I get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?

Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?

Root.
10char

ricksvill said:
Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?
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1. root it (alpharev/unrevoked)
2. s-off (revolutionary)
3. NAND backup the current ROM from recovery mode
4. flash custom HBoot based on your requirement (refer to table in alpharev.nl)
[by this you get more internal memory increased, maximum you can get
332Mb for data]
5. install custom ROM of your choice which uses different scripts to move apps
to sd (s2e, a2sd, data2ext, etc....)
6. NABD backup the newly installed custom ROM
7. partition SD card for Fat32 and EXT3 (1gb) using gparted
8. reflash it the custom rom or restore from the back
you can refer to rooting guide which is available in the xda forum, below url may also help you regarding custom roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.

TVTV said:
What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.
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Not to be too pedantic but data2sd too. Still needs root
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Data2sd, needs root. Now I got 1gb internal storage
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thank you all...

ricksvill said:
Thank you all...
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Root your phone mate, and then use a RoM with data2SD If you want to stay with HTC sense then I recommend Droidzones RoMs.
This one is Sense 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143456
And this one is Sense 1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
Note you will need a SD card class 4 and above, Read up about Gparted after you have Rooted your phone this will let you partition your Sd card Giving you upto 2GB internal Memory.
If your bored of HTC Sense, I recommend MIUI RoM its superb
Good luck

HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.

Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.

Terepin said:
Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.
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Only down side to using recovery its max size is 512MB. EASUS dont like because its windows app, I find it best to use Gparted because its Linux witch android its self is based on.

ricksvill said:
HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.
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Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.

I repartitioned my sdcard using 4ExtRecovery. 1gb ext4, and128k swap. Brilliant themable recovery.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

shankly1985 said:
Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.
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Hi everybody,
got the same problem as the person who started this thread with the memory issues. Done everything except install a custom rom, which I am about to do.
(note: currently 0n 2.3.3)
Currently have CM 7.1 downloaded on computer and going to install....BUT every instruction i see requires me to have rom manager/ clockworkmod recovery. HOWEVER, I can't install these because ''this app can't be installed in your country''. unfortunately used to this.
So does anyone by chance have any links to instructions or have instructions of how I can install this without downloading any apps, hopefully an idiot proof version.(Not worried about saving a recovery etc....phone is basically blank.)
Also would CM 7.1 be a good start?? Is there any easier rom to install that still has the apps2sd feature which is the primary point of doing all this( maybe miui).
Thanks in advance for any help.
Regards,
rkdeane

Everything you need is in the Desire Developement forum - STICKY!
You don't apps, just root (S-OFF is a good choice too) and custom recovery (like CWM, AmonRa).
Sent from my customized HTC Desire using TTP

[Q] Some questions about Desire and custom ROM's

Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.

It should be that every ROM has it's own requirements for doing that.

So not every ROM can use approximately 2 GB for internal memory ?
That's what you're saying ?

Yes, for example I use 3GB on my SuperNova ROM, but recommended is 2GB so now I am trying to repair that. If you get me.
Kapiras? xD

Zealotic said:
Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.
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Euh, if you ask me I would say it's part of internal memory (when you remove it the apps on ext4 don't work anymore) but i'm not a dev so not sure though
you can see it as an extension to your internal storage capacity..
next, most of the systems to use your ext4 are already included in roms (A2SD, D2EXT) so you don't have to worry about that, they recognise the partition themselves
the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
extra: there is a nice pic near the end of THIS post what is shifted to the ext partition when you use a certain method
grtz

So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.

Zealotic said:
So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.
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well, with the last version of sebastian15 for CM7 there's no need to flash the AD2SDX zip file, now it comes as an option during install (you'll see )
thus, first you make 2 partitions 1 ext4 of min 1024MB (mine is that size but you can do more if you'd like) an the rest of the sdcard is fat32 .. (mine: 7GB)
then download the right rom (check HBOOT, i have CM7R2 so i can install AIO v1), with Hboot its version 5.3 and you still have to flash the AD2SDX zip if you want it (A2SD is good enough for me )
oh right, don't forget a full wipe
grtz

mattnmd said:
the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
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An external partition has nothing to do with hboot.

The only worse thing than people not helping are people helping wrong. This thread is a failure on so many levels that human vocabulary just can't cut it.

Then why don't you help me, or just point me in a right direction ?
Thanks for the answers.

Because information you seeks are essential to know before you attempt to root.

FYI, I have successfully rooted my phone.
And I have managed to install the desired ROM.

And one more question.
I have managed to make 2 partitions.
Fat32 (5,5 gb) and ext4 (2,2 gb), yet the phone recognizes only 5.5 as the SD memory. And the 2,2 are not usable ATM.
What should I do ?

Reading your last comment I can't imagine how could you possibly root it successfully on your own.

GTFO of my thread.

Zealotic, terepin is right in a way. You show no understanding of the ext partition, or flashing, or ROMs. It will never show up. Because it is a separate partition. You'll only ever see the fat32 partition in your phone under sd storage. You need to do some research before you attempt any of this.
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

Zealotic said:
What should I do ?
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Research...

A LOT of research. And don't worry, that "Search" button doesn't bite.
At least not often...

No one said that he's not right. He's just acting like he's a god or something.
I'm just a newbie. And guess what. I managed to get 1.5 gb internal storage too.
Lock the thread please.

So in the end you didn't even need to open the thread?
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

EXT4 SD card partition not appearing or working

Hi,
I have upgraded from 2.3.7 to a JB MOD. I prepared my SD card in gparted with a 500mb FAT32 and the rest as EXT4. I have inserted the SD card and 'setting\storage' only sees the in built 150MB EXT and the 500MB FAT32 on the SD Card but no 3GB EXT4 partition. In terminal I ran a2sd install and on the reboot it said 'optimising' apps and I thought it was moving apps. However, when I install apps from the store they are installed on the in built RAM.
Using app2sd I can't move any apps I used to be able to on 2.3.7.
Can someone please advise?
Thanks
Paul

csjjpm said:
Hi,
I have upgraded from 2.3.7 to a JB MOD. I prepared my SD card in gparted with a 500mb FAT32 and the rest as EXT4. I have inserted the SD card and 'setting\storage' only sees the in built 150MB EXT and the 500MB FAT32 on the SD Card but no 3GB EXT4 partition. In terminal I ran a2sd install and on the reboot it said 'optimising' apps and I thought it was moving apps. However, when I install apps from the store they are installed on the in built RAM.
Using app2sd I can't move any apps I used to be able to on 2.3.7.
Can someone please advise?
Thanks
Paul
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Here is your most likely scenario because it happened to me: If you created your partition on a PC, for some reason it doesn't work properly (well at least in my case). Then the phone doesn't read the SD card properly. What you should do is upgrade clockswork mod recovery on your phone to the most recent version and create the EXT version using the recovery console by booting into recovery.

Thanks
iyf said:
Here is your most likely scenario because it happened to me: If you created your partition on a PC, for some reason it doesn't work properly (well at least in my case). Then the phone doesn't read the SD card properly. What you should do is upgrade clockswork mod recovery on your phone to the most recent version and create the EXT version using the recovery console by booting into recovery.
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Hi,
thanks for the reply. I'll see what version I have. It is probably old as it is 15 months since I did the CM 7 install to my phone.
Paul

it should be 500mb ext4 and the rest fat 32, also 1gb ext4 is recommended and dont use ClockWorkMod recovery to partition sdcard, use 4ext recovery instead. CWM makes bad partitions
Sent from my HTC Desire

Is there a specific way around?
jmcclue said:
it should be 500mb ext4 and the rest fat 32, also 1gb ext4 is recommended and dont use ClockWorkMod recovery to partition sdcard, use 4ext recovery instead. CWM makes bad partitions
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Hi,
I read the FAT32 should be first and the EXT4 the rest. Is that correct?
Paul

csjjpm said:
Hi,
I read the FAT32 should be first and the EXT4 the rest. Is that correct?
Paul
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yh. i was only quoting coz u said u had 500mb fat 32 and 3gb ext4. the fat 32 should have the biggest size not ext4
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
yh. i was only quoting coz u said u had 500mb fat 32 and 3gb ext4. the fat 32 should have the biggest size not ext4
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I've redone my card (3GB FAT32/500MB EXT4) but my in built memory seems to run out of space for apps quickly. I thought the SD-Card EXT4 partition was supposed to add more space for apps to the phone.
Is this not true?

csjjpm said:
I've redone my card (3GB FAT32/500MB EXT4) but my in built memory seems to run out of space for apps quickly. I thought the SD-Card EXT4 partition was supposed to add more space for apps to the phone.
Is this not true?
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what JB did u install? theres acouple i think that u have to activate the a2sd by doing the following in terminal emulator
su
a2sd install
y
n
y
then ur phone reboots and a2sd is activated and apps will go to ur ext4 partition
Sent from my HTC Desire

have done that once
jmcclue said:
what JB did u install? theres acouple i think that u have to activate the a2sd by doing the following in terminal emulator
su
a2sd install
y
n
y
then ur phone reboots and a2sd is activated and apps will go to ur ext4 partition
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Hi,
I am using Elk759 JB ROM. I did run the a2sd in terminal after redoing the partitions. It reboots and says optimising apps 1/...79 (whatever number). I can't tell if it has moved anything onto the EXT4 partition of my SD card.
I will boot into a live linux and take a look on that partition.
If it isn't working is there anything I can do?
Thanks
Paul

That seems to have worked as I've installed loads of apps and it hasn't complained about space.
Thanks for all your help.
Paul