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Application Space

I have the HTC Desire on Telus.
I have Apps2SD installed, as well as Android 2.2. Currently I am unrooted but was rooted before and the same issue.
I can move some applications to the SD card, but not all of them. Also its only part of the application. I am still running out of space all the time.
Am I missing something, how do you install and run an application from the SD card?

Root. Youre using stock a2sd which doesnt fully move the app to the sd so it still uses storage space. Root and a2sd+ is what youre after
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As I said in my post, I was Rooted before, still didn't install the full application and cache and everything to sd.

Well if you rooted but didn't partition your SD card for A2SD+, then you did nothing extra.
Root > partition SD card > reinstall ROM

Link to the instructions on how to do it exactly, make sure I do it correct this time around.
Thanks.

So I did that, you can only partition the SD card as 512MB, which is clearly the same as internal memory. Also, the applications still only move some of itself over to the sd card.......

I can't use Gparted for reasons, is there another program that does the same that works with windows?

Anyone....really......come on....

MiniTool Partition Wizard (google it) works under Windows and can create ext3 partition SD Cards. It's the only one i found that actually works, and it's free.
As an alternative, you can instal ROM Manager on your phone and use it to create ext3 partition, although it's limited to 512MB.

Thanks for that application.
So I formatted my SDcard, reinstalled the rom and I still have only 114MB free, and 2GB missing from my SDCard now...WTF

Yeah, but data will be stored on ext3 partition so you will be able to install more apps. I now have 200mb of apps, and still have 40% free in internal memory.

The new Adobe Flash update increases the already ludicrous amount of space this app takes up on your phone. Was 10.96MB, now 11.29MB.
No Froyo move to SD.

Can someone please give me instructions from start to finish on how to do this because clearly I'm doing it wrong, I have 114MB internal free with fresh install.

Just install applications, you'll see they now take way less space in phone memory. You won't see that partition as available space.
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Would still be nice to have instructions for next time.
And so your telling me there is no point to making a 2GB extra partition, since you can't move the apps fully over, that's what I thought, and this was a waste of time.

Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Evil_Cid said:
Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol

bmancell said:
Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol
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Okay....what ROM are you using? Stock 2.2 only supports Google's way of moving Apps (i.e. moving some of it and leaving the rest behind). Even with rooting, the stock ROM WILL NOT move everything to SD. So you need a new ROM which will support the A2SD feature.....so selecting a new ROM (even a modified version of the stock one) would be your first step. Make sure this ROM has support for A2SD or A2SD+....
Edit: If you do decide to make the "full" switch, it is recommended to S-OFF if possible.... I am fairly confident that you are following the right steps but the ROM isn't supporting it.

I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM. And i dont know what S-OFF is. I am assuming a way to power off.

bmancell said:
I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM.
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Have you also got a custom recovery? like ClockworkMod (can be found on the Market) or AmonRa (i don't use this).... you will need one of them if you want to enable A2SD with Oxygen ROM. This is because the oxygen ROM, by default, writes app data into the internal memory rather than into any external partitions.
Basically once you create your ext3, you have to boot into the custom recovery and flash this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2263716/dalv...2SD-signed.zip
and reboot..and that should do the trick.
That's the general summary of the steps. Read the link for more details on partitioning:
Link on SD card partitioning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910290
EDIT: Put simply, S-OFF (security off) allows you to install custom HBOOT image (such as the one I have..) which give you more space in you internal memory. Alpharev Oxygen HBOOT for example (HBOOT is the bootloader) gives around 337MB as internal space for your apps....which kinda makes EXT3 partitions unnecessary...
You have to be a bit careful with S-OFFing as newer Desire models have new security feature which makes it unsuitable to flash a new HBOOT. Read more about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583

[Q] desire alpharev issue

Hi,
after S-OFF (alpharev) i tried to flash the resize partition image (bravo_alphaspl.img)...but after completing the procedure i did not get any extra internal memory..i was still stuck with 148mb..though i should get around 190mb
i followed the instructions
1) S-OFF
2) flash HBOOT bravo_alphaspl.img
3)wiped evrythin(system,cache,data) from recovery
4) nandroid restore
what wrong have i done???

Afaik, you flashed the same partition table that you had before. You have to pick another from the list on alpharev.nl. It depends how much space do you need for your system partition, e.g. oxygen's system fits in a 90 MB partition and you get loads of space for your apps. So it's up to you to decide.
Personally, I'm using the sense table: 50 MB more for apps and enough space to play with different roms.
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Hi Yeti,
Yeppm,think so too, he has flashed the original Tables *lol*
Write another one
but be ensure that your "BACKUP" Fits on the new Paritions sizes, if the new partitions are to small, you cant restore your backup
Greetz
Joachim
Sorry for Bad english, i´m from Austria (I should write this as Signature here )

thanks alot...
will give it a shot to bravo sense..
Thanks

Hi..
I just noticed that the system.img (backup) is of 236mb so what should i do to make it below 180mb as i am trying to flash bravo sense

just out of curiosity have u looked to see what rom u want 1st? depending on the rom u want will depend on what hboot they recommend to use with it.

i want to go with the original rom that was pre-installed in the ph (as it is the most stable rom)..i jus want some extra internal memory.
also i have noticed a small issue... i hav a fat32/ext4 partioned microsd card and i have move2sd enabler and app2sd to move the apps..i downloaded a sw(10 mb)...which was installed on the card by default but it also took the same space in the internal memory.

pulkitjeel said:
i want to go with the original rom that was pre-installed in the ph (as it is the most stable rom)..i jus want some extra internal memory.
also i have noticed a small issue... i hav a fat32/ext4 partioned microsd card and i have move2sd enabler and app2sd to move the apps..i downloaded a sw(10 mb)...which was installed on the card by default but it also took the same space in the internal memory.
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K well from what ive read on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13767135
the bravo sense seems to be for sense roms with a lot of default apps removed(maybe a veteran xda member can confirm this too).
I would recommend you stick with the stock hboot and just go with something like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
both the above links seem to be the default rom u want but also with a2sd+ built in so flashing them will use the ext/2/3/4 u have on your sd card so u should notice a big diff in internal memory usage.
or even go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703 this is the leedroid rom based on froyo 2.2 but with a2sd+ and a few other tweaks etc. Still uses stock hboot so less hassle and has all your looking for.

Totally agreed. You can also look for teppics rom, which is stock with a2sd support.
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[Q] Need help changing ROM

Hello !
I had my Desire 1 month ago but I was in vacation so I couldn't download any soft to root my phone.today, I rooted my HTC and installed ClockWork Recovery with Unrevoked , this was simple. Now I want to install a custom ROM : LeeDrOiD HD (I'll update to have Sense 3.0)
But, I see two versions : Data++ and A2SD++, What do they mean ? I kown I have to do a EXT3 1 Gb Partition on my microSD. Can I do it with my Ubuntu Linux or I have to do it with GParted Live CD ?
Thanks in advance !!!

omar93500 said:
Hello !
I had my Desire 1 month ago but I was in vacation so I couldn't download any soft to root my phone.today, I rooted my HTC and installed ClockWork Recovery with Unrevoked , this was simple. Now I want to install a custom ROM : LeeDrOiD HD (I'll update to have Sense 3.0)
But, I see two versions : Data++ and A2SD++, What do they mean ? I kown I have to do a EXT3 1 Gb Partition on my microSD. Can I do it with my Ubuntu Linux or I have to do it with GParted Live CD ?
Thanks in advance !!!
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davebugyi said:
Data++ is a technique that was first implemented and tested by ClassicalDude. Using a re-laid out nand MTD, only the davlik-cache is retained in the internal memory. All .apk's are moved to the SD-EXT partition, where they are rarely accessed. This means a HD RoM can be fit in 180MB, leaving a lot of room for userdata which will remain in the internal memory. This results in a lightning fast ROM which stays fast through with no lag whatsoever during market downloads etc. Add to this the cool fix from coolexe and baadnewz that creates a dynamically resizable ram-disk for market downloads: and you have a great RoM that doesn't need to waste space for cache and will never have a market download fail!]/quote]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992176
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A2SD+ is a script which moves all apps you install automatically to an ext partition on your sd card. You must not do anyhting. If you use "move to sd card" in application settings, the app will be moved to fat32 partition of sd card. Android can only difference between apps in " internal memoory" and in "fat32 partition of sd card". Furthermore, with A2SD+ the dalvik-cache will be also moved to the sd ext partition on your sd card (which does not happen, if the rom is only using a2sd).
To sum it up, a2sd+ moves only apps and dalvik-cache to an ext partition on your sdcard, whereas data++ also moves some system apps to it. That's the reason why roms with data++ works with less space for internal system partition.
You can use Ubuntu to partition your sd card. If gparted is not included (I do not remember, installed ubuntu some time ago), you can download it from ubuntu software center (search for "gnome partition editor").

What do you think I should choose ?

omar93500 said:
What do you think I should choose ?
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I cannot say it, I did not employ with the advantages of each script. Compare both advantages and disadvantages, and then pick.

Last question ^^,
I made a GoldCard to install the official Froyo months ago, now I want to change my microSd to a 8Go one, do I have to make it GoldCard (to install a Custom ROM) ?

omar93500 said:
Last question ^^,
I made a GoldCard to install the official Froyo months ago, now I want to change my microSd to a 8Go one, do I have to make it GoldCard (to install a Custom ROM) ?
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No. The goldcard has nothing to do with the rom. It's only connected to sd card. You can stay with the one you have.

Thanks a lot man !!

Can I get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?

Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?

Root.
10char

ricksvill said:
Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?
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1. root it (alpharev/unrevoked)
2. s-off (revolutionary)
3. NAND backup the current ROM from recovery mode
4. flash custom HBoot based on your requirement (refer to table in alpharev.nl)
[by this you get more internal memory increased, maximum you can get
332Mb for data]
5. install custom ROM of your choice which uses different scripts to move apps
to sd (s2e, a2sd, data2ext, etc....)
6. NABD backup the newly installed custom ROM
7. partition SD card for Fat32 and EXT3 (1gb) using gparted
8. reflash it the custom rom or restore from the back
you can refer to rooting guide which is available in the xda forum, below url may also help you regarding custom roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.

TVTV said:
What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.
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Not to be too pedantic but data2sd too. Still needs root
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Data2sd, needs root. Now I got 1gb internal storage
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Thank you all...

ricksvill said:
Thank you all...
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Root your phone mate, and then use a RoM with data2SD If you want to stay with HTC sense then I recommend Droidzones RoMs.
This one is Sense 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143456
And this one is Sense 1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
Note you will need a SD card class 4 and above, Read up about Gparted after you have Rooted your phone this will let you partition your Sd card Giving you upto 2GB internal Memory.
If your bored of HTC Sense, I recommend MIUI RoM its superb
Good luck

HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.

Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.

Terepin said:
Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.
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Only down side to using recovery its max size is 512MB. EASUS dont like because its windows app, I find it best to use Gparted because its Linux witch android its self is based on.

ricksvill said:
HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.
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Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.

I repartitioned my sdcard using 4ExtRecovery. 1gb ext4, and128k swap. Brilliant themable recovery.
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shankly1985 said:
Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.
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Hi everybody,
got the same problem as the person who started this thread with the memory issues. Done everything except install a custom rom, which I am about to do.
(note: currently 0n 2.3.3)
Currently have CM 7.1 downloaded on computer and going to install....BUT every instruction i see requires me to have rom manager/ clockworkmod recovery. HOWEVER, I can't install these because ''this app can't be installed in your country''. unfortunately used to this.
So does anyone by chance have any links to instructions or have instructions of how I can install this without downloading any apps, hopefully an idiot proof version.(Not worried about saving a recovery etc....phone is basically blank.)
Also would CM 7.1 be a good start?? Is there any easier rom to install that still has the apps2sd feature which is the primary point of doing all this( maybe miui).
Thanks in advance for any help.
Regards,
rkdeane

Everything you need is in the Desire Developement forum - STICKY!
You don't apps, just root (S-OFF is a good choice too) and custom recovery (like CWM, AmonRa).
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[Q] Some questions about Desire and custom ROM's

Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.

It should be that every ROM has it's own requirements for doing that.

So not every ROM can use approximately 2 GB for internal memory ?
That's what you're saying ?

Yes, for example I use 3GB on my SuperNova ROM, but recommended is 2GB so now I am trying to repair that. If you get me.
Kapiras? xD

Zealotic said:
Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.
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Euh, if you ask me I would say it's part of internal memory (when you remove it the apps on ext4 don't work anymore) but i'm not a dev so not sure though
you can see it as an extension to your internal storage capacity..
next, most of the systems to use your ext4 are already included in roms (A2SD, D2EXT) so you don't have to worry about that, they recognise the partition themselves
the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
extra: there is a nice pic near the end of THIS post what is shifted to the ext partition when you use a certain method
grtz

So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.

Zealotic said:
So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.
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well, with the last version of sebastian15 for CM7 there's no need to flash the AD2SDX zip file, now it comes as an option during install (you'll see )
thus, first you make 2 partitions 1 ext4 of min 1024MB (mine is that size but you can do more if you'd like) an the rest of the sdcard is fat32 .. (mine: 7GB)
then download the right rom (check HBOOT, i have CM7R2 so i can install AIO v1), with Hboot its version 5.3 and you still have to flash the AD2SDX zip if you want it (A2SD is good enough for me )
oh right, don't forget a full wipe
grtz

mattnmd said:
the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
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An external partition has nothing to do with hboot.

The only worse thing than people not helping are people helping wrong. This thread is a failure on so many levels that human vocabulary just can't cut it.

Then why don't you help me, or just point me in a right direction ?
Thanks for the answers.

Because information you seeks are essential to know before you attempt to root.

FYI, I have successfully rooted my phone.
And I have managed to install the desired ROM.

And one more question.
I have managed to make 2 partitions.
Fat32 (5,5 gb) and ext4 (2,2 gb), yet the phone recognizes only 5.5 as the SD memory. And the 2,2 are not usable ATM.
What should I do ?

Reading your last comment I can't imagine how could you possibly root it successfully on your own.

GTFO of my thread.

Zealotic, terepin is right in a way. You show no understanding of the ext partition, or flashing, or ROMs. It will never show up. Because it is a separate partition. You'll only ever see the fat32 partition in your phone under sd storage. You need to do some research before you attempt any of this.
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Zealotic said:
What should I do ?
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Research...

A LOT of research. And don't worry, that "Search" button doesn't bite.
At least not often...

No one said that he's not right. He's just acting like he's a god or something.
I'm just a newbie. And guess what. I managed to get 1.5 gb internal storage too.
Lock the thread please.

So in the end you didn't even need to open the thread?
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