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Droid incredible getting 720p recording - Will desire follow?

What do you think, is HTC going to give us some of that HD recording goodness? If they don't sure enough someone here is going to figure a way to port it

2.2 will bring HD
Froyo HD lol
720 should be implimented, it will definately boost sales with a feature like that in a camera phone

speedking34 said:
What do you think, is HTC going to give us some of that HD recording goodness? If they don't sure enough someone here is going to figure a way to port it
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we already know the desire is capible of 720p video recording, once we get our new radio with froyo is shud be pretty simple

I saw the news in http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/droid-incredible-ota-update-said-to-be-bringing-mobile-hotspot/ and really got exited that there is a good chance that we gonna see 720p video recording on our desires.
btw I saw a difference between Desire's and Incredible's camera - the later has a 8 megapixels camera. I know this won't stop htc to put hd video recording in desire, but it is a reason not to. Let's hope not.

HD is useless unless FPS can stay at 25+ ALL THE TIME regardless of light conditions.
Audio quality should be vastly improved, ditch the 2005-ish AMR-codec...
Bitrate for video should at least be doubled to get rid of blocking...

the 5 Mgb camera is 720P capable ...
When a Device doesn't record @ 720 it's because of it's CPU , and since the snapdragon is capable of that , then WE would get it via update...
( as the nexus one did )

spritable said:
I saw the news in http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/droid-incredible-ota-update-said-to-be-bringing-mobile-hotspot/ and really got exited that there is a good chance that we gonna see 720p video recording on our desires.
btw I saw a difference between Desire's and Incredible's camera - the later has a 8 megapixels camera. I know this won't stop htc to put hd video recording in desire, but it is a reason not to. Let's hope not.
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Devs have already got 720p video recording working one the nexus one with froyo and we have exactly the same camera as them

720p is just a number, I'd prefer 480p with higher quality...
Hd videos from nexus one doesn't look so stunning, the camera sensor just sucks... and I think it's the same as on our Desire.

elek_it said:
720p is just a number, I'd prefer 480p with higher quality...
Hd videos from nexus one doesn't look so stunning, the camera sensor just sucks... and I think it's the same as on our Desire.
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for starters 420p dosent qualify as hi def and 2nd its more than just a number it denotes the amount of pixels 720p = 1280x720 witch is obviously a much higher quality/resolution than 420p (704x480) so wtf lol

AndroHero said:
for starters 420p dosent qualify as hi def and 2nd its more than just a number it denotes the amount of pixels 720p = 1280x720 witch is obviously a much higher quality/resolution than 420p (704x480) so wtf lol
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let me try and put it a bit different,
me, and the op, would rather have GOOD SD quality than crappy HD, people tend to asume that HD is all about the resolution, it's not, it's a lot more about bit rate.
say you have [email protected] and [email protected], witch one is going to look better? 480p, why? cos you are using 8mbit to store less pixel so less compression, to call something HD in my book you need 1080/720p, and at least 12 mbit for 720p, and 18 Mbit for 1080p

Hm idont quiet agree with you.
HD IS (not ALL!) about resolution. Thats why today everything with HD sells. People see HD, and think its great. But as you said its more about the image quality itself.
But its not a very fair comparison between 480 and 720p you made. SUre 480 looks better, but on a smaller screen (with native res.) but if you have a bigger screen, 480p has to bee scaled up, or stretched and then it looks maybe identical or even worse to the 720p Video.
Not to say that i would appreciate the innovation that the Desire gets 720p recording at a very usable bitrate :/
I hope you get my point, since im german and caged in foreign language
/Dev

devvi said:
Hm idont quiet agree with you.
HD IS (not ALL!) about resolution. Thats why today everything with HD sells. People see HD, and think its great. But as you said its more about the image quality itself.
But its not a very fair comparison between 480 and 720p you made. SUre 480 looks better, but on a smaller screen (with native res.) but if you have a bigger screen, 480p has to bee scaled up, or stretched and then it looks maybe identical or even worse to the 720p Video.
Not to say that i would appreciate the innovation that the Desire gets 720p recording at a very usable bitrate :/
I hope you get my point, since im german and caged in foreign language
/Dev
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exactly and 480p is a lower res than the native res on our device lol

ivan_white said:
let me try and put it a bit different,
me, and the op, would rather have GOOD SD quality than crappy HD, people tend to asume that HD is all about the resolution, it's not, it's a lot more about bit rate.
say you have [email protected] and [email protected], witch one is going to look better? 480p, why? cos you are using 8mbit to store less pixel so less compression, to call something HD in my book you need 1080/720p, and at least 12 mbit for 720p, and 18 Mbit for 1080p
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Agreed. I'm also concerned about the amount of FPS we could get .. anything below 20-25 and HD is useless me thinks ..

[email protected]@10mbit would be fine by me if h.264 was used, but h264 on the fly is a bit too much for snapdragon, so h.263 and a bit rate of say 12 mbit would be ok... but then you would need a very good sd card... about scaling you will almost never get 1:1 pixel mapping... tv's tend to have 1368x768 or 1920x1080, pc monitors are also over 720p.
its not a video recorded it's a phone, and if it gets a half decent support for video we should be happy but i don't expect anything from that,
i like big sensors, a 5 mpx dslr is 10 times better than a 15 mpx point and shoot camera, why? sensor size. phones are just too small to be good

http://www.androidcentral.com/could-be-froyo-android-22-version-htc-sense
Some "evidence" of the coming 720p... (and sense plus froyo)

just check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684518&page=2
its a mod here that has it

YouTube 1080p Lag

Okay, so I have been watching videos from the full YouTube site and they work perfectly on 720p. When I play the videos on 1080p, the videos lags, giving me something like 1 FPS. Is there a solution to this problem? Is it something with the phone or is it YouTube's problem? If anyone has any sort of insight on this problem, please post. If you are having the same problem, also post.

aranurea said:
Okay, so I have been watching videos from the full YouTube site and they work perfectly on 720p. When I play the videos on 1080p, the videos lags, giving me something like 1 FPS. Is there a solution to this problem? Is it something with the phone or is it YouTube's problem? If anyone has any sort of insight on this problem, please post. If you are having the same problem, also post.
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Your internet speeds aren't high enough probably?
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

I just checked it myself. I have the same problem. Maybe the device doesn't support 1080p playback. Which is odd, I thought it recorded in 1080p.

1920x1080 runs just fine on mine
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YouTube 1080p runs in flash..what's you expect..also..why in the world would you watch a 1080p video on a 480p screen?

Try a different browser
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Before we had root in the first days of the sgs2, i was able to watch 1080 videos wonderufully on YT also, epicmealtime fyi. I tried it today and the stock browser lags. =/

Why? Why do you need to see 1080P videos on a screen that only does 480P? And of course it'll lag it's running on flash on a website not optimized for mobile. Geez this is a phone not a desktop gaming rig.

It's not your phone it's youtube it's self. Youtube has always lagged on 1080p videos. My desktop has problems with it and I have 8 gig ram. Intel i7 sandy bridge with AMD Radeon HD 6990. Ever since youtube upgraded their interface it has been plagued with problems. My connection is 20 down 5 up.
The phone can run hi 10bit 1080p blue ray h.264 mkv videos with the lowest and highest encode possible with out losing frames. Which looks better than anything you can possibly stream. There is nothing on youtube worth watching in 1080p most videos are upscaled anyway. Which really isn't 1080p anyway.
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I watch 1080p videos because they look much clearer and less grainy than both 720p and 420p. I have tried different browsers but the same problem arises.
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I think you need a quad core processer in order to watch 1080p videos.., my tab 10.1 can`t play 1080p videos...... it has the screen for it which leads me to believe it`s the processer
Sent from a amazing Ipad 2

aranurea said:
I watch 1080p videos because they look much clearer and less grainy than both 720p and 420p. I have tried different browsers but the same problem arises.
Sent from my SGH-T989 running Paradox ROM.
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that's your brain talking.

I bet if I had 3 identical gsIIs one displaying 480 video, 720, and 1080 you wouldn't be able to pick which one is which.

jessejames111981 said:
I bet if I had 3 identical gsIIs one displaying 480 video, 720, and 1080 you wouldn't be able to pick which one is which.
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Haha agreed.
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ArcticWolf91 said:
Why? Why do you need to see 1080P videos on a screen that only does 480P? And of course it'll lag it's running on flash on a website not optimized for mobile. Geez this is a phone not a desktop gaming rig.
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I think many of us are spec whores because we want a mobile desktop experience/replacement/all-in-one mega device and I don't think you picked up your GS2 without thinking the same.

I bet i could jesse james. How bout you run a vid on all three options and take a screenie and post. Im not looking to start something, i just want to prove a point
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Never mind. My logic was wrong but I watch CoD vids mostly so I can only tell the difference in such videos. But i hope you get my point. I want to maximize my phone's use.
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CM9 - changing the bitrate of the video camera

I believe this is set in Media_profiles.XML
Is it safe to change the 1080p bitrate? How do you do so properly?
My goal is to increase the videocam quality.
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interdasting, what's it default?

scott0 said:
interdasting, what's it default?
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The default for h264 1080p is 12000000 (12Mbps). From a quick search it looks like the bitrate for the iPhone is 25Mbps.
Two values need to be changed:
Bitrate for 1080p in camera 0 section and the max bitrate of the h264 codec lower down in the file.
Setting it to 25 crashes the camera. 20 works and is confirmed to be working when checking video properties in Windows.
The quality improvement is questionable. Still looks like **** compared to iPhone 1080p samples I saw on YouTube.
The 1080p videos on the Nitro almost look like they're interlaced! Anyone else notice this?
More importantly we need to fix the spastic focus asap!
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i render my work related video to h264 weekly. a 25mbs bitrate isn't noticeable on streaming video and is overkill. the 1080p vid samples that came preinstalled on my nitro were mind-blowing quality. i've also streamed youtube hd on mine and it looked stellar. i've also streamed youtube hd and it looked like hammered ****.

Flyview said:
The default for h264 1080p is 12000000 (12Mbps). From a quick search it looks like the bitrate for the iPhone is 25Mbps.
Two values need to be changed:
Bitrate for 1080p in camera 0 section and the max bitrate of the h264 codec lower down in the file.
Setting it to 25 crashes the camera. 20 works and is confirmed to be working when checking video properties in Windows.
The quality improvement is questionable. Still looks like **** compared to iPhone 1080p samples I saw on YouTube.
The 1080p videos on the Nitro almost look like they're interlaced! Anyone else notice this?
More importantly we need to fix the spastic focus asap!
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Yes would like the focus fixed. Wish I could help

scott0 said:
i render my work related video to h264 weekly. a 25mbs bitrate isn't noticeable on streaming video and is overkill. the 1080p vid samples that came preinstalled on my nitro were mind-blowing quality. i've also streamed youtube hd on mine and it looked stellar. i've also streamed youtube hd and it looked like hammered ****.
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What? I'm talking about recording video not streaming off YouTube.
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relax. you mentioned streaming vids via youtube, i read that to mean the quality of the stream.
enjoy your thread. keep complaining about cm9 too, that helps tons.

Haha, what the hell? I'm relaxed, and your input is appreciated.
Here's a 1080p clip I shot today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqqp0nXo6_4
Here's an iPhone 4s 1080p clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-ZSO4P5BT4
Is it just a difference in lens quality or is this software related?

Flyview said:
Haha, what the hell? I'm relaxed, and your input is appreciated.
Here's a 1080p clip I shot today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqqp0nXo6_4
Here's an iPhone 4s 1080p clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-ZSO4P5BT4
Is it just a difference in lens quality or is this software related?
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I liked the video from nitro compared to iPhone. IPhone can't focus or is it just me.
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Flyview said:
Haha, what the hell? I'm relaxed, and your input is appreciated.
Here's a 1080p clip I shot today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqqp0nXo6_4
Here's an iPhone 4s 1080p clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-ZSO4P5BT4
Is it just a difference in lens quality or is this software related?
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It seems like there is some interlacing going on in the Nitro video. That has to be a bug.

drumist said:
It seems like there is some interlacing going on in the Nitro video. That has to be a bug.
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That's what I thought too. Do you see it in your videos?
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Flyview said:
That's what I thought too. Do you see it in your videos?
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I've never attempted to take a video before on my phone. Right now my camera app won't even open, haha. I'll let you know when I can manage to make it work...
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I just noticed that when selecting 1080p, it creates videos with the wrong resolution - 1920x1088 (instead of 1920x1080). Perhaps there is some wonky scaling going on in the vertical resolution which is what is causing that banding effect.
And yes, I am also seeing the same "interlacing" effect in videos I take with my phone. The effect does not appear at 720p or 480p.
The framerate is so abysmal at 1080p, I don't know why I'd ever use it anyway. 720p seems pretty good though.

drumist said:
I've never attempted to take a video before on my phone. Right now my camera app won't even open, haha. I'll let you know when I can manage to make it work...
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I just noticed that when selecting 1080p, it creates videos with the wrong resolution - 1920x1088 (instead of 1920x1080). Perhaps there is some wonky scaling going on in the vertical resolution which is what is causing that banding effect.
And yes, I am also seeing the same "interlacing" effect in videos I take with my phone. The effect does not appear at 720p or 480p.
The framerate is so abysmal at 1080p, I don't know why I'd ever use it anyway. 720p seems pretty good though.
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I've seen the 1088 vertical resolution on other phones, doubt that's the problem. Maybe someone who knows a lot more what's going on can chime in.
Shouldn't both 720p and 1080p be 30fps when it comes to framerate?
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Flyview said:
I've seen the 1088 vertical resolution on other phones, doubt that's the problem. Maybe someone who knows a lot more what's going on can chime in.
Shouldn't both 720p and 1080p be 30fps when it comes to framerate?
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Should be, yes, but I was only getting under 10fps in my test videos. I dunno if I'm doing something wrong.

Yes that's definitely not normal. Check that you're actually set to video and not "time lapse" which is an option on the camcorder.
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how is the video recording quality, resolution and framerate on the leaked ics build ?

aaki_rocker said:
how is the video recording quality, resolution and framerate on the leaked ics build ?
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Good question, it'd be nice if someone would upload a sample!
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I attempted to take a video on my Nitro HD running the ICS leak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xEExzrWp1E
Note it really wasn't that sunny it seems to apply lots of HDR or something similar.

KindaWack said:
I attempted to take a video on my Nitro HD running the ICS leak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xEExzrWp1E
Note it really wasn't that sunny it seems to apply lots of HDR or something similar.
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Sweet! Thanks for that. Looks like the lens is oily??
Don't seem to see any interlacing effect so that's good.
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Alright i cleaned off the lens so hopefully this is a better test video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuDiwINjHqU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Short slow motion video captured on my galaxy note 2

Hi I just uploaded a very short slow motion video to youtube of my dog catching a biscuit.
Grab your popcorn and get comfy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnASdbfGj4s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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why's the resolution so low?

morphiend said:
why's the resolution so low?
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Coz that's the resolution the slow mo is available at, you can't set it higher than 720x480.
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I did trim the video with the inbuilt trim feature in the video edit option it saved the video as 3gp could this have lowered the quality? Im not to clued up on this stuff but I thought it normally records in mp4 so either the trim option has converted it to 3gp or possibly slow mo is captured in 3gp to keep down the file size?
Ive just checked and the video trim has resaved the video in 3gp it was originally captured in mp4 not that this appears to have made much difference to the quality.
Im guessing at 8x slow mo it is recording at 240fps and because of the high frame capture there has to be a reduction in quality to make it possible.
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RavenY2K3 said:
Coz that's the resolution the slow mo is available at, you can't set it higher than 720x480.
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that's disappointing to hear

morphiend said:
that's disappointing to hear
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It still wouldn't affect the quality of the video by much in the Note's screen.
It won't be good only when viewing in a computer or tv in full screen.

I hear people are not that pleased with the slow motion resolution but personally I think its great for a bit of fun. Sure not good enough for a professional production but its not meant for that. On the phone it looks fine... it was my favourite feature on an old LG viewty I had years ago and wow the resolution on that in slow mo mode was bad this looks crystal and very impressive in comparison. I know you cant really compare the 2 but it shows how nicely things have moved on.
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This feature is not meant for serious work, it's just a gimmick, a toy to enhance movierecording in the phone. If you really want you can bump up the resolution to full HD on the computer via thirdparty plugins in After Effects or Premiere Pro.
/ Magnus

morphiend said:
that's disappointing to hear
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If you thought it would be different you had unreasonable expectations. A GoPro 2, which has a much larger sensor than the Note 2 and more dedicated hardware, can do 120FPS at 848x480p. $3500 DSLRs like the 5D Mk III can't even take video at more than 30 FPS! To think that a cell phone camera could take high resolution, slow motion video is just ignorant.

Whatever, I like this slow motion thingy.
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b4d5h0t said:
Hi I just uploaded a very short slow motion video to youtube of my dog catching a biscuit.
Grab your popcorn and get comfy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnASdbfGj4s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Can you or any one else post slow mo videos somewhere else cause youtube is blocked in my country?

you guys need to get off the n2's nuts.
i didn't know it's so taxing on hardware for video to be recorded in slow motion. that is disappointing.
it's an interesting feature but it seems counter productive to the huge screen of the note2 since it can't be viewed in hd on it.

Here is my test on the slow motion function.
Have fun!
(Since I cannot post outside links yet, here is the info for the video
vimeo(dot)com(slash)62170068
Youtube(dot)com(slash)watch?v=TnMH_N2fSOA
Notes: When I was editing the video I saw some blur on the images, this makes me think that the camera don't actually captures 240 frames per second, but instead what it does is duplicate some of the frames and create a ghosting effect.
I need to do more technical tests to see the actual capture rate frame of the camera.

Can anyone try something for me? Can you grab the camera apk off the note 2 so I can try it on the samsung mega? The mega does not have, irritatingly so, the slow mo feature. Has to be the 4.2 camera app version since the mega is running 4.2. Thanks.

RavenY2K3 said:
Coz that's the resolution the slow mo is available at, you can't set it higher than 720x480.
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You can't adjust the Resolution at all.
It's always 720*480 for Note 2 and S4 Zoom; 800*450 for S4 and for Note 3; and S5, Z2, F7, K Zoom(aka S5 Zoom) and the newer ones, it's HD 1280*720p.

960 fps and 4k 60 fps?

Just saw a video posted by "pocketnow" on LG G7 camera review. At 4:57 mark, he said there were new addition(960 fps slow mo, 4k 60fps) from OTA updates since his original phone review 2 months ago. Is it true cuz i cant find it on web.
Video link- Hmm, seems i need 10 posts. Better PM me if u cant find on YT, or just search on YT and you'll have it.

Saw the video and yeah I can confirm that the phone can shoot 4k at 60 fps with the new OTA update but I just tried recording a slow motion video and it's just at 240 fps and I can't seem to find the 960 fps option.

You mean the video of Jaime Rivera? He doesn't know what he is talking about, the g7 doesn't have 960fps at 720p, just tested and it's 240fps.

I don't even have the 4k 60fps option.
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kiszidomi said:
I don't even have the 4k 60fps option.
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That's because your phone is not on the last Ota update

The reason that the phone can't shoot in 960fps is because there's no dedicated chip for it. For example Samsung uses dedicated fast storage chip to store the footage of the video and then transfer it to the main storage. LG doesn't have that chip plus the sensor only officially supports 240fps 720p but I noticed that it also supports 1080p 240fps .
Why we don't have that option is a mystery.

LameMonster82 said:
The reason that the phone can't shoot in 960fps is because there's no dedicated chip for it. For example Samsung uses dedicated fast storage chip to store the footage of the video and then transfer it to the main storage. LG doesn't have that chip plus the sensor only officially supports 240fps 720p but I noticed that it also supports 1080p 240fps .
Why we don't have that option is a mystery.
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Damn, so not even a software update can turn it on? That's sad.

Anyone else think that [email protected] is disappointing.. Lots of jello and inaccurate focusing. [email protected] send a more consistent option, tried to upload to you tube with 60 and it looked awful!

bootruss said:
Anyone else think that [email protected] is disappointing.. Lots of jello and inaccurate focusing. [email protected] send a more consistent option, tried to upload to you tube with 60 and it looked awful!
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Personally I prefer 4k 60fps. From what I recorded it seems stable and I have no problems with it.
Edit: here's a link of what the camera module is capable of: https://www.google.bg/url?sa=t&sour...FjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3vRFp9OMzb9J76fPbULXws