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Hi Folks,
I wanted to share a concern of mine here.
Now that Microsoft governs EVERY aspect of hardware, how should manufacturers differentiate their offerings?
Will it just be by price and color of the case?
Price, design and storage capacity.
Unfortunately, they didn't tell them how to design their phones. Look at that LG crap, it's soooo ugly... that's not how they will be able to compete with the iPhone, which is what are apparently trying.
(granted, the iPhone's design is getting stale, but at least it's not ugly)
Screen size, type and quality, quality of camera, storage size, battery... But yes, there won't be much left for differentiation, although I personally find it great.
Keyboard or not keyboard.
Though it seems the OS doesn't work in landscape mode. Sucks, I hope they figure this out (though I doubt it).
You doubt that WP7 will have landscape mode?
It doesn't have it now.
And yes, I doubt that it will have it.
(I mean FULL landscape mode, not only messages and browser)
It doesn't work in the emulator but I've seen it in videos. It doesn't move the application bar but rotates the buttons. I'd say it makes sense on widescreen displays...They would have to do something with the homescreen though.
I've seen it in my own apps. But I want it to work in the whole system, INCLUDING the homescreen and every other place.
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I've seen it in my own apps. But I want it to work in the whole system, INCLUDING the homescreen and every other place.
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Hi,
this is an interesting direction this discussion is going.
I would think that they will have to support it somehow - lest manufacturers like LG will be unhappy.
On the other hand: the Pre has the exactly same issue. On it, many apps are portrait only and it has no issues with that.
How often do we really see someone (non poweruser) use the QWERTY? Be honest!
How often do we really see someone (non poweruser) use the QWERTY? Be honest!
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That's why I doubt WP7 will support it.
Microsoft is copying Apple's approach, which means they're not adding anything, unless lots of people want it.
I've written some apps for WP7 and landscape worked. But unless it works in the whole system, this OS is of no use to me.
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Hi Folks,
I wanted to share a concern of mine here.
Now that Microsoft governs EVERY aspect of hardware, how should manufacturers differentiate their offerings?
Will it just be by price and color of the case?
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I think they should differentiate by telling MS to screw their "specs" to some degree and put a d-pad/trackball/optical mouse on the front of the device where they belong. I like minimum hardware specs, but number of button specs and screen hardware is nonsense imo. Basically I want a device with multitouch resistive screen tech, and some sort of up-down-left-right control on the front of the device. Honestly, what would MS do if Samsung put an optical mouse and camera on the front of their device? Would they sue? I highly doubt it.
Let to OEM take care of their controls, and MS should just focus on making the software experience nice. I just upgraded to the Omnia II, and I'm missing a physical dpad in a HUGE way. I don't miss the kb all the much with swype, but this dpad thing was killing me. I remapped my volume rocker to up and down so it's not as bad...but if I couldn't do the same on a wp7 device <cringe>.
But to answer your question more directly...right now they'll have to focus on things like ergonomics and style. But I hope that the late success of the HD2 under t-mobile shows MS that people actually like the openness of WM they just didn't like the default device experience and that makes an impact on what wp7 will actually turn out to be.
gom99 said:
I think they should differentiate by telling MS to screw their "specs" to some degree and put a d-pad/trackball/optical mouse on the front of the device where they belong. I like minimum hardware specs, but number of button specs and screen hardware is nonsense imo. Basically I want a device with multitouch resistive screen tech, and some sort of up-down-left-right control on the front of the device. Honestly, what would MS do if Samsung put an optical mouse and camera on the front of their device? Would they sue? I highly doubt it.
Let to OEM take care of their controls, and MS should just focus on making the software experience nice. I just upgraded to the Omnia II, and I'm missing a physical dpad in a HUGE way. I don't miss the kb all the much with swype, but this dpad thing was killing me. I remapped my volume rocker to up and down so it's not as bad...but if I couldn't do the same on a wp7 device <cringe>.
But to answer your question more directly...right now they'll have to focus on things like ergonomics and style. But I hope that the late success of the HD2 under t-mobile shows MS that people actually like the openness of WM they just didn't like the default device experience and that makes an impact on what wp7 will actually turn out to be.
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Metro UI is perfect for d-pad use, and I think it's ridiculous that they don't seem to be supporting it.
gom99 said:
Let to OEM take care of their controls, and MS should just focus on making the software experience nice.
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Thanks but no thanks. First you allow d-pad and next you see programs (games mostly, but not only) that don't function well without it. You allow OEMs to add non-standard controls and they start making drivers themselve, mucking up OS-wide conventions and standards (like HTC is doing with hardware keys left and right).
A d-pad might be a nice feature but if it's there it should be on all devices.
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Thanks but no thanks. First you allow d-pad and next you see programs (games mostly, but not only) that don't function well without it. You allow OEMs to add non-standard controls and they start making drivers themselve, mucking up OS-wide conventions and standards (like HTC is doing with hardware keys left and right).
A d-pad might be a nice feature but if it's there it should be on all devices.
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You and your fragmentation ...optional keyboards already exist...you don't think that will come into play on games and applications? You can't keep a uniform xbox experience for a phone like you can for a console...people like different control. Heck even consoles are fragmented control wise, controllers, joysticks, steering wheels, guns, etc.
Let the people choose their controls they want for the task at hand.
We've had this discussion before, you fix this issue by having good sdks that allow you to easily create an application where you can set your controls based on your device.
I defintely need hardware buttons so I won't buy one unless it has a hardware keyboard. But we've seen tons of Windows Mobile devices and they all look different. Other then buttons and UI I'm sure that will follow to WP7. 3" to 5" screens, 8GB,16GB,32GB,64GB space. Color, material, qwerty. These will all be differentiaters.
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We've had this discussion before, you fix this issue by having good sdks that allow you to easily create an application where you can set your controls based on your device.
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Absolutely. You can also require fallback controls for applications that require directional buttons - in the shape of on-screen d-pad, or other mechanisms, anything.
The problem is, there are no sdks and no requirements. Therefore I say - no, it should never be just up to manufacturers. It has to be delivered by the OS, with proper infrastructure in policies in place.
By the way, I've never seen any official requirement that the number of hardware keys is limited. There are mandatory keys, but nothing says there can't be more. Or does it? I know it's a popular idea in forums for sure, but there's no definitive source for this.
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By the way, I've never seen any official requirement that the number of hardware keys is limited. There are mandatory keys, but nothing says there can't be more. Or does it? I know it's a popular idea in forums for sure, but there's no definitive source for this.
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They're looking for the uniformity of the device, especially what the front of the device looks like with it's 3 buttons and the big mistake here is the lack of a d-pad-type control.
Also Microsoft issued a response saying that the hd2 had "too-many" buttons at MIX. So they seem to be sticking to their enforcement of device hardware key uniformity. But in my opinion it's silly...I honestly don't know how people Tolerate using the iphone with 2 buttons and a rocker.
Personally, I like D-pads/optical & physical trackballs, an ok/enter button, some kind of home key, and voice command buttons. I use the physical keys to control my device more than the touch screen, alot of my phone usuage is "one-hand" usage...primarily just thumb use.
Well, I'm not sure the wording used by MS meant exactly that, but anyway. I've used two devices without d-pad, the HD and the HD2, and also prefer one-handed operation with my thumb as the primary control. I must say that I miss d-pad occasionally, but exactly because some software developers didn't think about ways of handling their control elements without it. And therein lies the problem - relying on d-pad is just easy. Therefore if you know that some devices won't have it, you must force developers to write software that will work using other control mechanisms.
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Well, I'm not sure the wording used by MS meant exactly that, but anyway. I've used two devices without d-pad, the HD and the HD2, and also prefer one-handed operation with my thumb as the primary control. I must say that I miss d-pad occasionally, but exactly because some software developers didn't think about ways of handling their control elements without it. And therein lies the problem - relying on d-pad is just easy. Therefore if you know that some devices won't have it, you must force developers to write software that will work using other control mechanisms.
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Like you said I don't ever really miss the D-Pad until I use old applications that don't have good touch input set up. This is when I slide to landscape with my Touch Pro2 and use the arrow keys.
To differentiate themselves from other OEMS, they should produce better hardware. Hopefully this will drive the build quality of there devices thru the roof.
Just started using this and I think it is awesome. You can use you're phone as a mouse and keyboard what is really cool is on the glide the hardware keyboard works well. You just have to instal a software on you're computer then gmote from google play. For a media center PC this rocks!
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Unified remote (pro). Does everything gmote does along with support for dragging and it keeps the connection alive in the status bar. Also it as like a billion other remotes included (notably file manager and vlc remote).
gmote allows for dragging simply press the mouse button top right then drag. Guess their are many of these out there. First 1 I try that I like is gmote but I am sure others are just as good.
Oh right. Forgot about that button. Don't get me wrong, gmotes decent. I used it for the better part of two years. I just got sick of having to reconnect to the server all the time, especially when switching from phone to tablet and back.
Good to know. I'll give it a try with my xbmc box. Sometimes I do need to go back into windows for some stuff. Otherwise I'm happy with the xbmc remote on android .
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Phone My PC and Advanced TouchPad are good as well.
They auto connect to the ip address given, and the both have mouse and keyboard. Plus Phone My PC let's you see the desktop from anywhere in your home(good for keeping an eye on your kids).
Unified Remote (free) - no remotes to try, gmote - no bluetooth. Other favs?
Tyfighter said:
Unified remote (pro). Does everything gmote does along with support for dragging and it keeps the connection alive in the status bar. Also it as like a billion other remotes included (notably file manager and vlc remote).
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Tried Unified Remote based on this recommendation, but despite showing many free remotes to try in the description, no remotes are present except for buy now.
Looked at gmote, but no bluetooth.
From what I see in the description, Phone My PC doesn't do bluetooth.
Advanced TouchPad also doesn't appear to be bluetooth, and really does appear to be touchpad focused, with only a few very plain looking keys beside it. Which is fine, just not what I'm looking for.
(First driving reason for search - Impress remote. And if one is going to go down the 'remote' path, it may as well be as flexible / capable as whatever is out there. i.e. Given the other similar apps out there, no point going for something that only does Impress.)
UPDATE CORRECTION: Free remotes are present. But if portable version loaded from a network drive, Windows won't load the .dll's - which appears to the Android user as though no remote controls are present. [Serves me right for remote controlling a machine via VNC - missed the quick .dll load failed message!]
Tried unified remote and I like it.I have infrared on my computer from a uirt and am thinking of getting the pros to control my surround sound.anyone tested that? I read it was supposed to support it but I could not find the app to learn the it codes.
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dudejb said:
Tried unified remote and I like it.I have infrared on my computer from a uirt and am thinking of getting the pros to control my surround sound.anyone tested that? I read it was supposed to support it but I could not find the app to learn the it codes.
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Its play link is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Relmtech.Remote and contains a support pointer to http://www.unifiedremote.com/.
On their page is a Hardware link along the top, going to http://www.unifiedremote.com/hardware, at the bottom of which they show a USB-UIRT and more information. $50 + $8 S/H.
So, it would seem to be confirmed that it supports it. It talks about a forum being at http://65.36.202.170/phpBB2/. And also points to http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=26 and http://www.avsforum.com/ for additional information.
'UIRT' - Universal Infrared Receiver Transmitter, so there must be an emitter in the works. The page talks about Girder (http://www.promixis.com/), $50 / $100 / $150, Standard / Pro / WHT - all Windows only.
I would guess you use Unified Remote to tell the pc to emit the codes to your equipment. I'll bet it will take time to train yourself to pick up the glide and not the remote. (Or hide them on yourself. Not sure this would help with a problem I have - perpetually picking up the wrong remote and wondering why it's not working. Only to get blasted by the radio station when I thought I was changing channels!) :laugh:
HTH.
I posted this in the galaxy note 12.2 forums but since a lot of us use mice on the shield TV I thought it might help someone here.
Gaming Mice on Android
I'm not sure if anyone else uses a gaming mouse but I thought I would note that while I haven't found a way to configure a gaming mouse in android, you can still use any gaming mouse with onboard memory.
you just program it on your PC and then when you plug it into the android tablet (or any other android device) and all of your key pre-sets and lighting presets are there.
This is useful for people that remote into their work computers from home, or just want easy copy paste functionality or for the people that remote into their computers for gaming etc.
Personally I use a gaming mouse (Razer Naga Chroma) for work on a windows 7 workstation but I use my Galaxy note 12.2 exclusively at home with no access to windows.
The Razer Naga and Logitech G600 have a scroll wheel that tilts left and right and the function can be reprogrammed.
I reassign those to copy and paste and its way faster than using the keyboard and saves some wrist strain.
I also have shortcuts for our proprietary software programmed onto the side buttons and having access to that from home is a HUGE timesaver.
now when I work from home I can have everything at my fingertips instead of having to use the onscreen windows functions in teamviewer, or digging through menus in company software.
and a lot of the normal functions carry over to android pretty well (Copy paste is much smoother from the mouse etc.)
Anyways for anyone that this might help these are the ones I've tried so far:
Works:
Logitech G600 (Supports keyboard/mouse functions and simple hotkeys like alt + Shift + Tab but does not support complex macros to device memory)
Roccat Nyth (Supports everything including complex macros but does have a length limit)
Anything with onboard memory will likely also work to varying degrees.
Doesnt work beyond default buttons:
Anything with no onboard memory:
Any mouse designed to work with Razer Synapse 2.0
Lower end Logitech mice. (Some lower end models lack onboard memory)
mice can't touch action in android app&game
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mice can't touch action in android app&game
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Its true, with a mice, some apps work some apps dont, this is on full android, not sure what the situation is with stock
Android/shield does this neat thing it seems, where it makes every individual app create/declare mouse support, individually, instead of, i dont know, lets say, for an example, tie mouse support with the touch system in some fashion, on the OS level, you know, so that EVERY app works, without having to rely on every app with various degrees of dev support to include or update in the mouse support.........totally neat way of doing it
implementation fragmentation
Theres also the permission implementation im starting to notice now.........marshmellow it seems has implemented a rather NEAT storage persmission decleration requirement, whereas apps running on marshmellow have to declare storage permission in order to be granted storage permission.........good idea...(sporadic sarcasm off)...no, really, security effort :good:....(sporadic sarcasm on again), ......but, but, bad implementation, you've now declared older apps with no current dev support, that still fit a function, from working on the newest android version, and perhaps, then onwards..........if the app does not declare it seems, then it simply will not work, if it requires this particular storage access.........you've just isolated a good portion of older unsurported apps that still may serve a function
I dont see why they implemented this, mmmm... in this way(CANT.SENTENCE.PROPERLY), why make the requirement, for apps to declare this, when they should have attempted to secure it, and rightly so on this front, on the bleeming OS level.............all apps would have this storage permission in android settings somewhere, and you'd simply allow or deny, on the *OS level* (record, meet hammer), much :silly:
Anyways, continuation, where was i, ah yes
",on the *OS level*",..... without having to alienate older apps with no prospects for an update
Sorry for offtopic, suspiciously rantish, like behaviour :silly:
Edit: and silly,.....yep.....silly............. i always forget that one (insert scratch head emoji)
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Razer naga works
I was able to get my razer naga to work with the shield you just have to make some adjustments to it first. You have to plug it in to your pc, install synapse, open synapse, go into the performance tab, change the dpi to 800 and the polling rate to 125 hz. The settings are saved on the device itself so you can simply plug the mouse in to the shield now and it works. You might be able to play around with dpi settings to see what works but I'm fairly certain the main issue is the polling rate. I'm going to mess around one of their keyboards to make sure it works too.
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Sorry, I had already posted this on another section but I think this one is more appropriate and can't delete other post.
I have a Joying JY-NL124 android car radio, which does not have an accelerometer. I bought the Yocto 3d V2 http://www.yoctopuce.com/EN/products/usb-position-sensors/yocto-3d-v2 to see if I could get it to work with torque and other android apps for the track but although android sees the device the apps do not. I am not a programmer, but is there a way to get the apps to recognize an external accelerometer like some do for an external GPS?
Very interesting. I would like to know as well. It might also be usefull in navigation to get a faster direction orientation.
I was reading up on this again and this bit means someone with the know how would probably need to code something
The main advantage of this solution is that you don't need to install a driver to communicate with a Yoctopuce module, as the HID layer is always present. You only need to add our library, that we provide in source form, to your driving software for it to be able to directly talk to Yoctopuce modules.
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Have you tried contacting them directly and asking if they can do this for you?
sinnedone said:
I was reading up on this again and this bit means someone with the know how would probably need to code something
Have you tried contacting them directly and asking if they can do this for you?
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Uff, sorry for the late reply. Life has a way of getting in the way of interesting projects. I'm about to restart this project since I'm using the car a lot on the track. It's weird that the units don't come witha compass, gyroscope, accelerometer, etc, considering they are meant to be used in moving vehicles.
Definitely post up if you figure it out.
It would be nice to get it to work with Android as a whole. If that's the case you might need to talk to one of the ROM developers to see if it's something they can do ROM wise or even a custom kernel.(the kernel bit might be a little harder)
Did anybody get this right. It would be cool if these usb accelerometer could work in the apps
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Hi,
Sorry, I had already posted this on another section but I think this one is more appropriate and can't delete other post.
I have a Joying JY-NL124 android car radio, which does not have an accelerometer. I bought the Yocto 3d V2 http://www.yoctopuce.com/EN/products/usb-position-sensors/yocto-3d-v2 to see if I could get it to work with torque and other android apps for the track but although android sees the device the apps do not. I am not a programmer, but is there a way to get the apps to recognize an external accelerometer like some do for an external GPS?
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I'm very interested to understand whether this is possible as I am thinking about a similar setup. You tried the three Bluetooth tips in the roll up thread?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...roll-joying-2gb-sofia-mtcb-mtcd-tips-t3555249
"Bluetooth Tethering & BT Settings", "Difficult to pair BT devices" and "Modified stock bluetooth app to allow connection to all devices"
Have you tried external GPS for higher refresh rates or is the Head Unit gps refresh good enough for the track?
Bob
MX5DrIver said:
I'm very interested to understand whether this is possible as I am thinking about a similar setup. You tried the three Bluetooth tips in the roll up thread?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...roll-joying-2gb-sofia-mtcb-mtcd-tips-t3555249
"Bluetooth Tethering & BT Settings", "Difficult to pair BT devices" and "Modified stock bluetooth app to allow connection to all devices"
Have you tried external GPS for higher refresh rates or is the Head Unit gps refresh good enough for the track?
Bob
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Sorry....USB not Bluetooth... Also discouraging. I was hoping USB would be an alternative to BT for track add-ons...
I too have an Android head unit and do track days, and have the exact same interest as you. I use Harry's Lap Timer. I have the Pumpkin AE0273B head unit. It too lacks the compass and accelerometer. I too found this to be a very unfortunate omission.
I have developed apps actually so I do know Android program to some degree (although I am sortof a hack, not a pro). I have apps on the Play Store (since I can't post links just search Play Store for developer JimRoal). I saw the Yocto stuff. When I get some time I will look into this some more.
Any update on this? Would also like to add a compass / accelerometer to my joying.
Also interested. But on a newer 10.0 unit. Something I am going to look into.
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Also interested. But on a newer 10.0 unit. Something I am going to look into.
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Sad that over 4 years after I first posted this we still don't have a unit with these features. I finally gave up and bought an AIM Solo 2 DL.
I'm looking for a newer radio though, since mine is older than this thread
Still waiting as well.
Looking forward for solution, we have also WIMOTION sensors in the market with sample android apk but I'm not a developser so, put things together is hard for me !
I think the hard job is try to mock the sensors in Android AS IF external accelerometer was factory embeeded (allowing apps to recognize it)
Nothing new about this project / idea ???
?? dead ???
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?? dead ???
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Once you've figured out how to modify the kernel, you should be good to go!
Another option could be sensor to serial over USB, via a compatible adapter, write an app and there you go. Of course it won't be standard Android though.
Drivers are here
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.14.133/source/drivers/iio/imu/st_lsm6dsx
The problem is adding them to kernel !
You dont need to add them to the kernel. You will need to implement an Android HAL that can read the values of these sensors. Its not a trivial task but also not very hard if you have access to the source code
I would like an alternative to my Shield remote that also allows Voice Search which has a Keyboard built in. Are there any?
Well Gallery Measy GP830 Premium QWERTY Multifunction Wireless Keyboard/Air Mouse/Remote Control Built-in Mic & Headphone Jack for Android TV Box Pc - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014CX2R0G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_JgjJybYSW8MQN
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I assume you bought this. How is it?
Still waiting for both of them. Wells gallery (Amazon) shipped both of them but they never made it. They shipped another 2 remotes. Faster shipping to. I'll come in with a mini review.
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Still waiting for both of them. Wells gallery (Amazon) shipped both of them but they never made it. They shipped another 2 remotes. Faster shipping to. I'll come in with a mini review.
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I'm 90% sure voice wont work since it's not a bluetooth remote
I have this remote and voice search works:
Azulle A-1068-AL Lynk Multifunctional Remote Control, Backlit QWERTY, Air Mouse, AI Learn Buttons, Black
@Spartoi hows the back button mapped on that remote?
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@Spartoi hows the back button mapped on that remote?
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I'm not sure I understand your question, but the back button is mapped to the right-click mouse button on the remote (the button next to the voice search button).
Hi,
the Minix Neo A2 an A3 have that plus a gyro function.
the amazon uk link for the a3
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Hi,
the Minix Neo A2 an A3 have that plus a gyro function.
the amazon uk link for the a3
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How are these Minix remotes on batteries?
I have the following remote: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B015O5UM6M/
But it chews through batteries like crazy. So I don't bother with it anymore. There's a backlit version or a version with voice input support. Not sure why it can't be both. The same two versions are being sold under a variety of brand names but I suspect they're all essentially the same.
The Minix remotes look pretty similar I'm worried about the battery life on these as well.
EDIT: Now I remember why I wasn't interested in these. No IR learning.
I can't complain about battery life, I had to change them 1 time after 5 month (I use eneloop AAA with it).
Spartoi said:
I have this remote and voice search works:
Azulle A-1068-AL Lynk Multifunctional Remote Control, Backlit QWERTY, Air Mouse, AI Learn Buttons, Black
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Does the select button work in amazon on STV? Is it line of sight and what would you say the range is?
Does the back button activate the air mouse like so many of those do?
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Still waiting for both of them. Wells gallery (Amazon) shipped both of them but they never made it. They shipped another 2 remotes. Faster shipping to. I'll come in with a mini review.
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HOw's the remote?
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Does the select button work in amazon on STV? Is it line of sight and what would you say the range is?
Does the back button activate the air mouse like so many of those do?
Thanks
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Yes, the select button works in the Amazon video app. The device connects via USB, so it's not IR or line of sight dependent. I use the remote in my bedroom which is really small (about 10ft in length) and it works fine in that range.
The back button doesn't activate the air mouse. The mouse has a dedicated key for activating.
Spartoi said:
Yes, the select button works in the Amazon video app. The device connects via USB, so it's not IR or line of sight dependent. I use the remote in my bedroom which is really small (about 10ft in length) and it works fine in that range.
The back button doesn't activate the air mouse. The mouse has a dedicated key for activating.
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Thanks. Think I may get it. One more. Do the volume buttons control the shield tv volume? How would you rate it out of ten, ten being hightest?
I am currently using this.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Keyboard-W...16632711&sr=8-7&keywords=android+voice+remote
Best remote i have ever used been using now for over 3 weeks. i did have to remap tha back button as it was a bit strange how it was working and i remaped the search button to bring up the assistant. But voice works perfectly just hold down the mic button to switch the mic on and tallk. i have alos remaped the coloured buttons to shorcuts to my most used apps. It also has IR learning and works with my tv and sound bar.
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I am currently using this.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Keyboard-W...16632711&sr=8-7&keywords=android+voice+remote
Best remote i have ever used been using now for over 3 weeks. i did have to remap tha back button as it was a bit strange how it was working and i remaped the search button to bring up the assistant. But voice works perfectly just hold down the mic button to switch the mic on and tallk. i have alos remaped the coloured buttons to shorcuts to my most used apps. It also has IR learning and works with my tv and sound bar.
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How funny that's the exact same remote I got about a week ago and I'm loving it too. Didn't have any back button issues. You using a gen 1 16gb shield tv? Great idea on the remap of the search button. I will do this. Like you, I also made a button to my soundbar and tv. What a coincidence LOL. I like this remote so much that I'd be willing to pay double if they added more programmable buttons. With the IR learning, I'd program it on my ceiling fans, window ac units, and so on, if it had more buttons.
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Spartoi said:
I have this remote and voice search works:
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i have it also, home button doesn't work,voice search doesn't work (on android tv, philips tv and nvsATV).
axxel6307 said:
How funny that's the exact same remote I got about a week ago and I'm loving it too. Didn't have any back button issues. You using a gen 1 16gb shield tv? Great idea on the remap of the search button. I will do this. Like you, I also made a button to my soundbar and tv. What a coincidence LOL. I like this remote so much that I'd be willing to pay double if they added more programmable buttons. With the IR learning, I'd program it on my ceiling fans, window ac units, and so on, if it had more buttons.
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I have the 1st gen 500gb the back button did work it was just acting a bit diffrent in some apps. There is a newer version of our remote now currently sold out ill see if i can find the link you can program all buttons to an IR
Update: here is the link to the updated one without backlight there is a backlit version i will post when i find it. You can program 42 ir keys.
Air Mouse With Voice- TopYart 2.4G Wireless Air Mouse Remote Control Keyboard with Infrared Learning Voice Input MX3 Air Mouse for Android TV Box https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073RBYFL3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sdJzAb1RD883H
I have a very similar remote to the one linked "MX3 Pro". I believe they're all the same manufacturer, just re-branded. But it started chewing through batteries like crazy. I felt like I was replacing them every couple weeks. I prefer the simplicity of my Fire TV remote with a SideClick (for TV/Audio functions). Except now I'm having all kinds of weird WiFi direct issues.
axxel6307 said:
I'd be willing to pay double if they added more programmable buttons. With the IR learning, I'd program it on my ceiling fans, window ac units, and so on, if it had more buttons.
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You do know that you can program all the buttons on this remote barring the tv programmable button (red TV) ..I believe.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01IVJH0IG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I am 100% sure I read that this remote had around 42 programmable buttons ......... I read that somewhere during my endless searching for a replacement substitute remote (shield tv 2017) on a chinese or Asia bulk ordering website..
Please don't ask if I have a link to that info. I read and searched that many wholesale sites I really cant remember ...but I am sure it is this very remote..
This is the updated version.. and the same one I have ordered from amazon... it`s got the backlight too . That's why I have ordered this ................ Should arrive in a week or two.
I just ordered this one too ( links below to the model ) ....and it has got Rave!!! reviews .... Looks very nice too and it is the latest MX3 Version 2017 , I think and looks like the Big brother to the MX3 hybrid versions knocking around.
Make sure to select the voice model ( blue voice icon button ). 3 places below for reff:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2-4...32796705881.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.ET7H5k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TK628-Air...hash=item41c93ddfb4:m:mee3d5RAFeTW-_Ac0Cdp0dQ
https://www.banggood.com/TK628-2_4G...-p-1201548.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN
Approx £11.50 for this and I have seen distributors selling this exact model under different guises for nearly twice the price in places . I done a bit of digging around and think the remote model is TK628 QWERTY REMOTE CONTROL But many sellers are selling under different user model names ..But I think this is the M3 Big brother.
I think this is going to be fantastic Remote for the shield and all your media devices as I have read many reviews that this can reprogram ALL keys if you so wish with IR learning mode. (disregard the web product descriptive user guide, I have read numerous review`s stating it can reprogram All keys with IR function ) Looks Awesome!!! You can also pay via paypal for peace of mind. :good:
Also do yourself a favour and get a pack of these....You will not regret it.. and they are truly a powerhouse .
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-...d=1516968222&sr=8-5&keywords=eneloop+aaa&th=1
Best Regards,