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just want some info such as battery life,speed,items made better or worse for that matter
and to the mod who keeps merging these threads please don't as all those guys in that other thread are talking about is odin this and odin that basically how to defeat knox and such
I haven't noticed much but it sure isn't faster battery life didn't get better but after factory restore I lost my navigation icon
what have you noticed?
Thanks for this
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Macklessdaddy said:
just want some info such as battery life,speed,items made better or worse for that matter
and to the mod who keeps merging these threads please don't as all those guys in that other thread are talking about is odin this and odin that basically how to defeat knox and such
I haven't noticed much but it sure isn't faster battery life didn't get better but after factory restore I lost my navigation icon
what have you noticed?
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I believe the navigation icon is still there.
Did you try , shortcuts-activities-map ?
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It feels better back like the first day I got it. My phone before the ota was a lot slower. I did benchmarks a couple weeks before the ota and my numbers seemed weirdly low, like sequential read was 5mb now it's 26, I'm guessing that's trim doing it's job? One thing I don't like is that we can't swipe between tabs in settings, it never bothered me in phone since I didn't make calls daily,but I go to settings multiple times a day and I keep trying to swipe. Maybe I'll get use to it. Also I love the new lockscreen (I use a pin setup) it's cleaner and with the xposed module we can choose our own lockscreen widgets.
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Yea seriously mods stop merging these threads all the time. Not everything needs to be consolidated into one thread. You are actually making it difficult for users to find answers to questions when you try to force ALL the info into one thread. A better idea would be to leave a poll that asks if the current thread should be merged, left as is or deleted. That way its not just you guys randomly deciding what is important and more us users making the judgment call.
Thanks!
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pierrekid said:
Yea seriously mods stop merging these threads all the time. Not everything needs to be consolidated into one thread. You are actually making it difficult for users to find answers to questions when you try to force ALL the info into one thread. A better idea would be to leave a poll that asks if the current thread should be merged, left as is or deleted. That way its not just you guys randomly deciding what is important and more us users making the judgment call.
Thanks!
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agreed
Things I've noticed:
1. Apps update and open faster
2. LTE seems faster
3. Slighty more and quicker battery drain (using ZeroLemon battery)
4. Can now close all instances of stock browser windows completely (no window left open)
5. Stock 4.3 ROM seems to take up about 200-250MB more RAM
6. Ability in Task Manager to "launch by default" function; helps apps from asking you each you time you use them which other app you want to open them with (eg. Gallery, Photos, Skype, Internet, etc.)
7. Ability to change size of text in text messaging by using up or down volume button
8. Additional folder under /storage called "emulated" -- don't know anything about Android OS, but appears to be duplicate prior operating environment under 4.2.2, and takes up about 2.11BG of space in System (internal) storage.
I am getting Internet errors and having display issues now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570144
Trying to keep 4.3 threads trimmed.similar threads like this have also been closed in order to keep things focused..please go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561794
Thanks all!
I've read tons of issues with KitKat on the Note 3. People have been complaining about:
1) Battery drains
2) Constant restarts
3) Issues with WiFi calling
4) Trouble getting flash to work
5) Problems with non-Samsung Window Cases
6) Major issues getting non-OEM apps to write to the SD Card
7) Changes to the bootloader making it impossible to revert back to Jellybean if you wanted to
With all that known what are the ADVANATGES of updating? I read the font is different and you get full screen art on the lock screen for the music player. Why would somone update to KitKat when you lose so much and gain so little?
I agree kitkat is a sellout compared to jellybean.
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I've read tons of issues with KitKat on the Note 3. People have been complaining about:
1) Battery drains
2) Constant restarts
3) Issues with WiFi calling
4) Trouble getting flash to work
5) Problems with non-Samsung Window Cases
6) Major issues getting non-OEM apps to write to the SD Card
7) Changes to the bootloader making it impossible to revert back to Jellybean if you wanted to
With all that known what are the ADVANATGES of updating? I read the font is different and you get full screen art on the lock screen for the music player. Why would somone update to KitKat when you lose so much and gain so little?
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I've only had issues with #1.
#4, flash, I'm assuming you're talking that antiquated, discontinued web crap by adobe. Not an issue or concern for me.
2,3 I've not had issues with.
5? I don't have any like that, but supposedly there's a fix if you're rooted.
6, if you're rooted, there's a very simple fix.
7, yeah but don't care.
Advantages... Cause it's there. it's the latest and greatest... LOL, ok, so it's not a real advantage I guess.
I have had no issues with my Note 3 except for #6, which is a Google thing...
My note 3 came with KK out of the box, tho. Dunno if that makes a difference.
Question about #6. Is that like, if you have a 3rd party Camera app...it won't save the pics to the external SD? Like there is an option in the app...but it just won't save? Also, it is a KK on Note 3 problem?
OP is misleading. Only the Jizzer kitkat roms are sucky. CM, BeanStalk, GE and others are fine - no excess battery drain, full signal, no random reboots, no Samsung crapware all over the place. KitKat is a huge success aside from those Samsung TW abominations.
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OP is misleading. Only the Jizzer kitkat roms are sucky. CM, BeanStalk, GE and others are fine - no excess battery drain, full signal, no random reboots, no Samsung crapware all over the place. KitKat is a huge success aside from those Samsung TW abominations.
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Tell those people complaining on the T-Mobile Forums that took and installed the OTA KitKat upgrade that their issues are just in their heads. If you have to root your phone to gain back functionality that was on the phone before you updated then the update is horrible. They are calling it the KitKat virus. But I am sure they are just crazy. Take two non-rooted phones. One on Jelly Bean one on KitKat. Which one will let your third party apps write to the sd card and which one will not. Now tell me which version of Android is better.
There are no advantages. At times you could say perhaps it's more secure to avoid viruses. But that's about it. It's junk.
...As I was just about to go kk...upon reading numerous posts all throughout....there are no practical advantages Lol. Why why why release such a crap update? At least make it worth while. What a waste of such a great name kk on a useless release.
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CrashTestDroid said:
OP is misleading. Only the Jizzer kitkat roms are sucky. CM, BeanStalk, GE and others are fine - no excess battery drain, full signal, no random reboots, no Samsung crapware all over the place. KitKat is a huge success aside from those Samsung TW abominations.
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Um, he mentioned AOSP ROMs as being huge successes. KitKat is amazing when it comes to AOSP, and TW as always is ****. The issues aren't in their heads, they're real, but it's not hard to fix it.
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Tell those people complaining on the T-Mobile Forums that took and installed the OTA KitKat upgrade that their issues are just in their heads. If you have to root your phone to gain back functionality that was on the phone before you updated then the update is horrible. They are calling it the KitKat virus. But I am sure they are just crazy. Take two non-rooted phones. One on Jelly Bean one on KitKat. Which one will let your third party apps write to the sd card and which one will not. Now tell me which version of Android is better.
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CM/AOSP KitKat roms don't have the issues you're complaining about. OTA Samsung crapware is still Samsung crapware. Reading comprehension ftw.
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CM/AOSP KitKat roms don't have the issues you're complaining about. OTA Samsung crapware is still Samsung crapware. Reading comprehension ftw.
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I am specifically talking about unrooted unmodified Jelly bean on the Note seeing how you don't have to do anything to enable the ability to write to the sd card on a stock note 3 where you do on the a stock kitkat note 3. Allow me to quote myself:
Take two non-rooted phones. One on Jelly Bean one on KitKat. Which one will let your third party apps write to the sd card and which one will not. Now tell me which version of Android is better.
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If you have to root the phone and modifiy it to get back functionality lost that is a problem. Sounds like you need some reading comprehension yourself. :good:
KitKat was more of a prank for Note 3 owners than an upgrade.
Reduced functionality, zero benefit.
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I am specifically talking about unrooted unmodified Jelly bean on the Note seeing how you don't have to do anything to enable the ability to write to the sd card on a stock note 3 where you do on the a stock kitkat note 3. Allow me to quote myself:
If you have to root the phone and modifiy it to get back functionality lost that is a problem. Sounds like you need some reading comprehension yourself. :good:
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Download Total Commander and it will allow you to write/rename to the SD Card.
How can us kitkat users go back to the previous version? I'd like to have vpn working again plus i'd like to not have tethering use up my limited tethering data.
I am rooted right now and adjusting the dun string settings.db doesn't fix it. Whenever i tether with another device even using another phone or googlebots it still goes up and data is counted as mobile hotspot usage.
15% faster
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I am specifically talking about unrooted unmodified Jelly bean on the Note seeing how you don't have to do anything to enable the ability to write to the sd card on a stock note 3 where you do on the a stock kitkat note 3. Allow me to quote myself:
If you have to root the phone and modifiy it to get back functionality lost that is a problem. Sounds like you need some reading comprehension yourself. :good:
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So if your not rooted and on stock....why are you here...just wondering not trying to be a jerk...but this site is for modification to your phone...my phone is a monster with no issue...rooted non stock note 3
yes its more faster and a lot more better
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So if your not rooted and on stock....why are you here...just wondering not trying to be a jerk...but this site is for modification to your phone...my phone is a monster with no issue...rooted non stock note 3
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I'm not trying to be a jerk either but I think you're confusing forums: this is Q&A help/troubleshooting forum, title says nothing about mods, there are separate forums for Android development and mods, so he is in the right place and you're completely missing the point, which is: why does he have to root the phone just to get back the functionality he had before upgrade. I'm not against rooting and modding, I'm rooted myself, but the fact is Google messed KK big time for no reason. Some people, myself among them, choose Note 3 for its SD as one of selling points and frankly I could not care less about even 15 % speed increase (like Note 3 wasn't fast enough), if I couldn't use extra memory. Another problem with KK is that rooting without tripping Knox is much more difficult now and we are still not clear what tripping Knox means as far as warranty goes. Is Android becoming another Crapple and everybody will need to wait for jailbreak to actually use their phone to it's potential?
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I'm not trying to be a jerk either but I think you're confusing forums: this is Q&A help/troubleshooting forum, title says nothing about mods, there are separate forums for Android development and mods, so he is in the right place and you're completely missing the point, which is: why does he have to root the phone just to get back the functionality he had before upgrade. I'm not against rooting and modding, I'm rooted myself, but the fact is Google messed KK big time for no reason. Some people, myself among them, choose Note 3 for its SD as one of selling points and frankly I could not care less about even 15 % speed increase (like Note 3 wasn't fast enough), if I couldn't use extra memory. Another problem with KK is that rooting without tripping Knox is much more difficult now and we are still not clear what tripping Knox means as far as warranty goes. Is Android becoming another Crapple and everybody will need to wait for jailbreak to actually use their phone to it's potential?
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Thank you Pete my sentiments exactly! I was also curious what KK does that actually IMPROVES the user experience. Taking away SD Card access doesn't seem to accompllish that goal so I was wondering if I was missing something. I appreciate everyones imput.
A few days ago I purchased a new SM-P600 and have been getting to know my device. It has downloaded a firmware
update which I have not installed yet. l can't seem to find any comprehensive info on what exactly the new update offers, like what sorts of changes or improvements should I expect? Will the interface look different? Has anyone taken any pictures or are there any tutorials ? l haven't made any changes to the device yet other than downloading some apps. l haven't ever updated or rooted a tablet before, so I want to make sure I don't screw it up. Any info or suggestions would be appreciated.
Are you on kitkat? Of so, it is most likely the lollipop update. You can see reviews and screen shots in this forum. Mixed opinions, but personally, I think it's a very good update.
Updating over the air like you have done is safe. It will not damage any data or files unless you deliberately do a factory reset or the tablet switches off in the middle of the update.
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Apparently I have Jelly Bean and it's an update to Lollipop 5.1.1 I'm not concerned about data or anything since I haven't created/stored anything on it yet. Just installed a few basic apps and set up my email.
One of the things I'm encountering reading the threads is that a lot of people have rooted or made changes to their device and I'm wondering how that affects functionality. I'd like to see/read a review from someone that can show how the stock update functions in comparison to what I currently have on it. I just think I should make some decision before I start to get used to this version and to store stuff on it.
Overall I'm happy with it as it functions now. I'm only noticing two issues. It seems to give me battery life of about 5 hours. I have turned off a lot, and turned brightness down, but perhaps there are more things I should be doing to optimize the battery. The other problem is handwriting doesn't want to function with Dolphin browser. Seems to be working in fine in every other app.
Rooting has nothing to do with the update. 5.1.1 is a very major OS update from Jellybean. It has a different UI, and better, more fluid experience (at least for me). If you are an Spen user then there are major improvements, themselves worth the upgrade.
You can root or not, as you wish, whether you update or not. If you want to see what the update looks like, you will find comments, screenshots and videos if you google p601 lollipop
You can update using the step on my another thread.
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UI looks cleaner and neater now. Camera shutter lags also gone. Great update
Yeah I updated it yesterday too.
So far overall phone performance is even better than android 11. More importantly the shutter lag is gone.
I have upgraded my Docomo Sharp Aquos R6 to Andriod 12, and find that the battery drain very fast even the phone is not in use. Anyone has similar experience? It is similar to the very first version of firmware when R6 just released
smithsmit said:
I have upgraded my Docomo Sharp Aquos R6 to Andriod 12, and find that the battery drain very fast even the phone is not in use. Anyone has similar experience? It is similar to the very first version of firmware when R6 just released
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Just want to remind you that after update, any android phone will heat up and drain battery for minutes/hour, because it reindex the file on the phone, this might even more noticeable if you have plenty of data like me.
Also, since you just clear the google play services and framework data so that you can update, that services will also do plenty of task, re-sync up your photos, etc
in my case, i just plug the phone and leave it connected to wifi for a night, and everything will be fine in the morning. All background task done.
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Just want to remind you that after update, any android phone will heat up and drain battery for minutes/hour, because it reindex the file on the phone, this might even more noticeable if you have plenty of data like me.
Also, since you just clear the google play services and framework data so that you can update, that services will also do plenty of task, re-sync up your photos, etc
in my case, i just plug the phone and leave it connected to wifi for a night, and everything will be fine in the morning. All background task done.
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Thx for your reply, but I'd been updated and used it for a few days. The battery drain issue is still here. My R6 is the very first batch which has similar issue with the first few firmware versions. The sitiation was fixed after updating the Carrier Services a few times. For this latest firmware, the problem is not fixed yet.
smithsmit said:
Thx for your reply, but I'd been updated and used it for a few days. The battery drain issue is still here. My R6 is the very first batch which has similar issue with the first few firmware versions. The sitiation was fixed after updating the Carrier Services a few times. For this latest firmware, the problem is not fixed yet.
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I see. Have you tried updating the carrier services again ? I got it like, almost every two days, dunno what google is thinking . Have you also check what is actually draining your battery ?
when on android 11, it's actually the stock messaging app that drain my battery, somehow it bugged and keep the phone wake up all the time. I disable it, and use google messages app, and everything is good.
You can use brevent app if you want as well. It can disable any system app or automatically suspend one which already idle more than certain minutes. (Mine set to 30 minutes) All without need of root, just using wireless debugging directly on the phone. I use it to debloat my phone.
Bellow is the list of app which i disabled btw. Mostly is japanese app which you don't need if you live outside japan.
otonieru said:
I see. Have you tried updating the carrier services again ? I got it like, almost every two days, dunno what google is thinking . Have you also check what is actually draining your battery ?
when on android 11, it's actually the stock messaging app that drain my battery, somehow it bugged and keep the phone wake up all the time. I disable it, and use google messages app, and everything is good.
You can use brevent app if you want as well. It can disable any system app or automatically suspend one which already idle more than certain minutes. (Mine set to 30 minutes) All without need of root, just using wireless debugging directly on the phone. I use it to debloat my phone.
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Yes, I hv got all the apps including Carrier Services updated. I checked the battery usage and found that Phone idle and Android System used unreasonable high battery. The R6 becomes warm easily, well, I mean easier than before even I just used it for FB App.
Latest OTA update is available with March Security Update
Info : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/sh51b/index.html#p05
Guys, I'm interested in R7, but it's a long time since I've had a Sharp phone in my hand. Therefore, I would appreciate if you'd share some knowledge about existing R6 with me.
1. What is this fuzz about the update? Isn't it a given to every R6 to receive OTA?
2. Does the phone come with Google? Full packet or minimum framework (GPay, Android Auto Assistant)?
3. Does it have AOS?
4. Can the launcher be replaced (with Nova, for example)?
5. Any problems with bank apps?
6. ADB remove system apps - anybody tried?
Thanks a lot for every answer.
piskr said:
Guys, I'm interested in R7, but it's a long time since I've had a Sharp phone in my hand. Therefore, I would appreciate if you'd share some knowledge about existing R6 with me.
1. What is this fuzz about the update? Isn't it a given to every R6 to receive OTA?
2. Does the phone come with Google? Full packet or minimum framework (GPay, Android Auto Assistant)?
3. Does it have AOS?
4. Can the launcher be replaced (with Nova, for example)?
5. Any problems with bank apps?
6. ADB remove system apps - anybody tried?
Thanks a lot for every answer.
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1. R6 is a Japan phone, in which, you can only get OTA by doing some procedures. So you wont be able to be notified for the OTA just like when you use other phone. Not all users know ehere to check for the info about latest update. The info is available only in japanese language. Thus, this is not a fuzz, but rather an informations for fellow users. Especially when we found the update been helpful in fixing some of bugs/annoyance in phone usability.
2. It come with full Google package
3. It's not AOSP. But it still pretty much Vanilla Android, with some extra/japanese region based features added by sharp.
4. Am running NOVA on my R6, straight swap, since the OS setting itself is Vanilla, it's very easy
5. Am using 5 Bank apps and total 10 of financial related apps, all works as intended, verification and elses.
6. No, i didn't tried ADB remove, since i don't find it appealing. I can simply disable unwanted app using Brevent app. And by not removing anything from the OS, i can ensure i always able to get an OTA as well. And because this phone has SD card slot, i do not worry about storage space. Most of my media (Video, Music, Docs) stored in SD Card. 128GB of internal space only used for apps.
otonieru said:
1. R6 is a Japan phone, in which, you can only get OTA by doing some procedures. So you wont be able to be notified for the OTA just like when you use other phone. Not all users know ehere to check for the info about latest update. The info is available only in japanese language. Thus, this is not a fuzz, but rather an informations for fellow users. Especially when we found the update been helpful in fixing some of bugs/annoyance in phone usability.
2. It come with full Google package
3. It's not AOSP. But it still pretty much Vanilla Android, with some extra/japanese region based features added by sharp.
4. Am running NOVA on my R6, straight swap, since the OS setting itself is Vanilla, it's very easy
5. Am using 5 Bank apps and total 10 of financial related apps, all works as intended, verification and elses.
6. No, i didn't tried ADB remove, since i don't find it appealing. I can simply disable unwanted app using Brevent app. And by not removing anything from the OS, i can ensure i always able to get an OTA as well. And because this phone has SD card slot, i do not worry about storage space. Most of my media (Video, Music, Docs) stored in SD Card. 128GB of internal space only used for apps.
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Thank you for your really fast and thorough answer. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult with the fuzz, just didn't know the circumstances, I used a lot of kinda exotic phones and always got OTA. But I understand and appreciate every help from the community side. It's always welcome.
I think I got answers to my questions and all are satisfactory. Though under 3 I made a typo, the question was about always on display. And with ADB you don't really remove anything and therefore don't influence OTA, just disable the unwanted bloatware for the primary user.
Thanks again. I suppose that you're satisfied with the phone? And updates are pretty decent too since you've got A12 already?
piskr said:
Thank you for your really fast and thorough answer. Sorry, I didn't mean to insult with the fuzz, just didn't know the circumstances, I used a lot of kinda exotic phones and always got OTA. But I understand and appreciate every help from the community side. It's always welcome.
I think I got answers to my questions and all are satisfactory. Though under 3 I made a typo, the question was about always on display. And with ADB you don't really remove anything and therefore don't influence OTA, just disable the unwanted bloatware for the primary user.
Thanks again. I suppose that you're satisfied with the phone? And updates are pretty decent too since you've got A12 already?
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AOD is not recommended on this phone,
as great as sharp's IGZO OLED screen is, it still lack something compared to samsung's. If you turn on AOD, the screen will have a retention image rather quickly. And, thinking about long term use, i decide to turn it off.
the screen itself is great tho, in term of color rendition, contrast and resolution. The refresh rate is great as well. Sure 240hz is achieved in pseudo way, but in most cases it feel as fluid as it can be. If you find certain app with funny scrolling feeling, i suggest you turn off high speed display mode for those app, so it will stay on 120Hz mode.
Am satisfied with the phone, yes. Especially for the price, and what i got with that price. At the time of buying, any other SD888 phone with similar specs will cost me 1.5-2x than what i spent for this phone. So that affect my expectation for this phone as well (i don't expect the olympic, lol)
Updates is pretty decent, i think, averaging to 1 update every two months, sometimes 1 update each month. More than what i expect from a company who barely have any models sold in my country
Yes my has like image retention already but oddly it only shows up in certain shades of grey, I don't think is fullly burn on though
Hi, I was wondering with theot of good update news how sharps update policy is? How many OS updates will a sharp device get?
Unknown.unknown said:
Hi, I was wondering with theot of good update news how sharps update policy is? How many OS updates will a sharp device get?
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Well, since in this case we are buying phone from carrier instead of OEM, so it depends which carrier you choose,
as for Docomo, you can predict from their website,
the phone released in 2019 are still getting update until 2022
while one released in 2017, still getting it up to 2021
you can take a look yourself here : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/
so i guess 3-4 years security support. Not sure about major android version update.
but for specific example , Aquos R2 was released in 2018 with Android 8.0, it got Android OS updates in 2019 (to 9.0) , and 2020 (to 10.0), while in 2021 it only got security updates and bugfixing. (so i guess around 2 major OS updates ?)
And today my R6 just got it's 9th Update for latest security patch.
Hi guys, I recently update to 12, however my R6 got a problem that when I unlock a phone, it takes a bit time to open it, like 10s. Do you guys know how to fix that one? Thanks.
otonieru said:
Well, since in this case we are buying phone from carrier instead of OEM, so it depends which carrier you choose,
as for Docomo, you can predict from their website,
the phone released in 2019 are still getting update until 2022
while one released in 2017, still getting it up to 2021
you can take a look yourself here : https://www.docomo.ne.jp/support/product_update/
so i guess 3-4 years security support. Not sure about major android version update.
but for specific example , Aquos R2 was released in 2018 with Android 8.0, it got Android OS updates in 2019 (to 9.0) , and 2020 (to 10.0), while in 2021 it only got security updates and bugfixing. (so i guess around 2 major OS updates ?)
And today my R6 just got it's 9th Update for latest security patch.
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btw: I intended buy R6; how battery life? how time on-screen? thanks!
Hello,
it seems we are close to get the update to Android 12 on our device:
Sony rolls out stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I
Sony has started rolling out the stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I. Read on to know more.
www.xda-developers.com
Has not been arrived yet on my device (EEA, germany). Any experiences with Android 12 on 10 III so far?
code010101 said:
Hello,
it seems we are close to get the update to Android 12 on our device:
Sony rolls out stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I
Sony has started rolling out the stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I. Read on to know more.
www.xda-developers.com
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Yes, CUSTOMIZED EEA 62.1.A.0.533 (Android 12) was released ( https://xpericheck.com/XQ-BT52 ) 4 days ago, but according to the phone update check and Xperia Companion, no software update is available. Phone is using stock firmware, WiFi/4G is available and I have made several restarts. However when CUSTOMIZED EEA 62.0.A.9.11 (Android 11 update) was released month ago, I got it right away, at the same release day.
Based Reddit, a lot users are facing same problem. Some say that software repair using the Xperia Companion pushes update to phone. But I don't want to and I don't have time to reset my phone and set up everything, including every app settings from scratch.
ksuuk said:
But I don't want to and I don't have time to reset my phone and set up everything, including every app settings from scratch.
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After switching from 11 to 12 android, you need to make a mandatory reset to the factory with the removal of all data in order to avoid bugs.
liwetlt said:
After switching from 11 to 12 android, you need to make a mandatory reset to the factory with the removal of all data in order to avoid bugs.
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it is folklore, no such need at all.
I have received the update (62.1.A.0.533) this morning.
Installation took around 45 minutes.
Haven't had any technical issues per se so far, but am still struggling with the look and feel of Android 12.
i have been using the phone for almost a week now after the new update (62.1.A.0.533), i haven't done any factory resets, here is what i noticed:
1. Battery is draining a lot faster than Android 11
2. UI is a bit bulky, especially the toggle buttons. Definitely preferred Android 11
3. Screen Mirroring is not working for me. WFD service keeps crashing (that's a major issue because i mirror all my videos)
4. I had previously mapped the power button (click twice) to GCAM. Now it's not working. Only works with the stock Camera
Overall, a negative experience. I would not recommend the update.
If anyone else is facing issues please let me know
mangobanana said:
I have received the update (62.1.A.0.533) this morning.
Installation took around 45 minutes.
Haven't had any technical issues per se so far, but am still struggling with the look and feel of Android 12.
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Post some screenshots of Android 12 on your Xperia, please.
Do you have separate toggles for wifi and mobile internet?
@Elberens, the same question for you too )
Hi guys, please keep us informed on how Android 12 behaves on the Xperia 10 III.
Hope that the battery drain reported by Elberens is just an isolated case, did you realized what is causing the drain? The app Better Battery Stats can help in detecting the cause of an abnormal power consumption:
[APP][2.2+][11 Dec. 2022 - V3.1] BetterBatteryStats
I started BetterBatteryStats because I was missing the great battery history that Spare Parts allowed to call on Froyo. It has been a long journey since the first version. BetterBatteryStats provides an insight in following categories: - General...
forum.xda-developers.com
I got the update notification yesterday and installed last night. So far I'm not having any technical or performance issues. All seems to be working. Still, I find the new UI a big step backwards in comparison to Android 11. Everything is so much bigger (menus, quick settings) using lots of dead space.
There aren't separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Mobile Data internet. You can't turn on or off with one tap. You have to open a submenu now...
The quick settings toggles are way bigger. You get only 4 in two lines when sliding down (or 8 if you slide with two fingers or twice). Which means that you will be needing an extra step for some actions.
I'm missing the functionality where on Android 11 I could use Google pay right away when holding the power button. Now there is a toggle in the quick settings instead (again extra step to use). Instead there is just a restart, shutdown and emergency menu if you hold the power button.
I don't get the new features of android 12 or it just doesn't seem to make a difference for my uses. The new bigger quick settings are annoying for me and if I had known before, I wouldn't have updated. If there was an easy way to roll back to 11 I would happily do it. But I guess I can't do that without flashing an older firmware on the phone. Maybe a future update would allow to make the quick menus a bit smaller?
geokirby said:
There aren't separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Mobile Data internet. You can't turn on or off with one tap. You have to open a submenu now..
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I've read somewhere that after factory reset the separate toggles for wifi and mobile data internet would show up.
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Sony's Android 12 update has separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Data, but only if you factory reset
The Android 12 update for the Sony Xperia 1 III and Xperia 5 III ships with separate toggles for Wi-Fi and mobile data.
www.xda-developers.com
another way:
[....] if you want to get back a dedicated button to toggle your Wi-Fi, Mishaal Rahman shared a command on Twitter that you can execute via adb to get it back.
adb shell settings put secure sysui_qs_tiles "$(settings get secure sysui_qs_tiles),wifi"
Right this morning I got the message of a System Update from Sony (I live in Italy).
I think I'll wait some days before update, would be like to read more feedbacks on how the device behaves under Android 12, in particular concerning the battery draining, I quite happy with my Xperia 10 III that overnight (9pm to 8am) drains just a ridiculous 3%.
Elberens said:
i have been using the phone for almost a week now after the new update (62.1.A.0.533), i haven't done any factory resets, here is what i noticed:
1. Battery is draining a lot faster than Android 11
2. UI is a bit bulky, especially the toggle buttons. Definitely preferred Android 11
3. Screen Mirroring is not working for me. WFD service keeps crashing (that's a major issue because i mirror all my videos)
4. I had previously mapped the power button (click twice) to GCAM. Now it's not working. Only works with the stock Camera
Overall, a negative experience. I would not recommend the update.
If anyone else is facing issues please let me know
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1) Recheck again app -s permissions, disable or uninstall unwanted ones, disable location wifi/bluetooth scan and wait for few days until the battery is calibrated and user habits/trends are known for the operating system.
Also You may try enable system cached apps under developer options -
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/r7tdta
2) It can't be changed, and you have to get used to it and hope that some update will fix/change it.
3) This is something new.
4) Have You tried XPERI+ for remap - https://github.com/ivaniskandar/shouko
You must agree this is a rather ingenious way of getting people to update their systems regularly. You're not told beforehand what the update changes, and only afterwards do you notice that the update was a downgrade in every single aspect. You want to swear that you'll never install a system update ever again, yet you know that you will have to do just that in the hopes that eventually some update will fix what the previous ones broke.
I must admit as much I agree that a proper changelog should be displayed before any update, I do like that android 12 update. Getting older (ok, I'm not that old) I'm pretty happy with the bigger/new layout
matmutant said:
I must admit as much I agree that a proper changelog should be displayed before any update, I do like that android 12 update. Getting older (ok, I'm not that old) I'm pretty happy with the bigger/new layout
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On the stock Android 11 you can make the UI big from Settings > Display > Display size. This is in addition to and separate from Settings > Display > Font size. So I still think the forced size in Android 12 was not necessary...
I updated my device on Saturday, everything went OK. I'm rather satisfied with the new UI, display size and font size can be adjusted as in Android 11, some aspects are nice, some others less, on the other hand it's impossible to create a UI that is good for everybody. There are a lot of launchers and ways to customize the appearance of a smartphone, so this is not a problem in my view. Apart from the graphical aspect, Android 12 brings new interesting features and I think this is more important.
I appreciate that Sony kept the media volume steps equal to 30, which is finer enough for listening music. At the moment, the power usage seems to be as before, my device drained only 3% overnight (9pm to 8am) as with android 11, and that's great.
The smartphone seems responsive and fluid, I didn't explored all the functionalities yet, but I would say that this update is OK.
Is it just me or do apps 'reload' more often after the update? I feel like caching of background apps is worse but I'm not sure.
Other than that and the combined internet toggle, this update is alright.
The overall app managing should be more optimized in Android 12, however you could try the above mentioned option in the Developer settings (suspend execution of cached app).
There are just a couple of commands to be sent via ADB the to restore separate wifi/mobile toggles, I'm waiting to see how is to deal with the combined internet one.
Comakip said:
Is it just me or do apps 'reload' more often after the update? I feel like caching of background apps is worse but I'm not sure.
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Noticed this too. For example, if I use "Simple Gallery Pro" from F-Droid to browse through some videos and I open a video with Kodi, then after I'm done watching the video and return to the Simple Gallery app, it will often reload, forcing me to navigate the folder structure once again.
I didn't have this issue with Android 11 - returning to the gallery app would bring me back to where I left when Kodi was launched. I'll try changing that setting mentioned above by @code010101 to see if it helps.