Been hearing that a credit card is required. Been hearing that some people have had no prompt to enter one. Do I really need a credit card to setup a gaming console??? Do debit cards work?
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Mine got far enough to let me create a username and password and then made it to a screen asking for a credit card or redeem code. If it had its way, you would be stuck at that screen. It accepts virtual credit cards, debit cards, and prepaid ones, if you dont want to give them your american express black card number. I gave them some $1 prepaid BS with a zip code in beverly hills, 90210 and got past it. There's a rumor going around that a secret button combo will let you bypass that screen. I tried for 30 minutes mashing buttons and never found that combo.
However, by the time you make it to that screen, the android framework is already running, adb is chugging right along. You are perfectly free to 'adb install" apps and another launcher if you want. You may not be able to access the ouya market, even to play the free portions of games. But you can sure as **** sideload emulators, media players, and games.
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However, by the time you make it to that screen, the android framework is already running, adb is chugging right along. You are perfectly free to 'adb install" apps and another launcher if you want. You may not be able to access the ouya market, even to play the free portions of games. But you can sure as **** sideload emulators, media players, and games.
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Lol glad I'm not the only one that was bothered by that.
Wait debit cards? So I could use my scotiabank card?
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I got mine about 2 weeks ago and I did not need a credit card. The screen popped up for it and I believe it said at the bottom like hit Y to skip.
Blasted from my Samsung Galaxy SIII (CM10.1 Masta Mix).
They must have changed it since then. I got mine on launch day and it updated right away. Then did this mess where it really wanted the credit card info.
The Day 1 update added this, but I'm kind of thinking it's a bug that it's mandatory, then again if it was they should have pushed out a fix by now....
Their website says it's mandatory to have some form of payment before you can download anything, but says you should be able to use "credit cards, debit cards, and pre-paid/gift cards and promo cards"
I've had my OUYA for well over a month and have never added card info. I can still download and play demos. I don't plan on buying many games until I see how viable this system is. I'm going to have to get a second controller replacement, because my top right trigger broke.
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It sounds like the people that set theirs up before the current update came out didnt have this forced credit card screen. For the people buying them at launch day, the first thing it does is update to RC-OUYA-1.0.328-r1_ota.zip, and when you go through the account setup process in this FW, it requires a credit card or some other form of payment.
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I do not see the appeal.
It's just as easy (easier, really) to swipe a credit card.
I do not see the advantage of making a purchase process more complicated--NFC requires a powered, active, working phone. What if the phone crashes? What if the battery dies?
A credit card is solid state, requires no power, and is usable just about anywhere...
Am I missing something?
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Am I missing something?
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Did you get your $10?
I don't know about purchases but I have some cool ideas about things to do with my new NFC tags.
Deanwvu said:
I do not see the appeal.
It's just as easy (easier, really) to swipe a credit card.
I do not see the advantage of making a purchase process more complicated--NFC requires a powered, active, working phone. What if the phone crashes? What if the battery dies?
A credit card is solid state, requires no power, and is usable just about anywhere...
Am I missing something?
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It's the overall potential to removing all the clutter of having multiple credit cards with multiple bills and a wallet full of info that is hard to recover. If I lose my Wallet I have to call all my credit card companies and cancel all my cards then have to wait for them to resend them in the mail. With this I can easily recover with just a new phone. It sucks right now because not many people accept it but you are considered an early adopters if you join right now so there is going to be some teething pains you're going to go threw. Also think of this as like those key chain things that gas stations use for easier and faster gas purchases. It's like that but on a bigger scale
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Did you get your $10?
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I did It was certainly worth $10 to give this a go!!
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It's the overall potential to removing all the clutter of having multiple credit cards with multiple bills and a wallet full of info that is hard to recover. If I lose my Wallet I have to call all my credit card companies and cancel all my cards then have to wait for them to resend them in the mail. With this I can easily recover with just a new phone. It sucks right now because not many people accept it but you are considered an early adopters if you join right now so there is going to be some teething pains you're going to go threw. Also think of this as like those key chain things that gas stations use for easier and faster gas purchases. It's like that but on a bigger scale
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I can see that as an advantage, perhaps. Maybe there will be a day when I walk out of my door carrying only my ID, my phone, and my car keys, but not yet. I do not trust my phone to be working all the time every day. All it would take is one phone failure when I actually need to purchase something to sour the experience for good.
Again, when it comes to purchasing goods/services, I think simple is best. Time will tell.
Security. Your credit card is an archaic tool rife with vulnerabilities. Chip based payment systems are arguably more secure.
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It's the overall potential to removing all the clutter of having multiple credit cards with multiple bills and a wallet full of info that is hard to recover. If I lose my Wallet I have to call all my credit card companies and cancel all my cards then have to wait for them to resend them in the mail. With this I can easily recover with just a new phone. It sucks right now because not many people accept it but you are considered an early adopters if you join right now so there is going to be some teething pains you're going to go threw. Also think of this as like those key chain things that gas stations use for easier and faster gas purchases. It's like that but on a bigger scale
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Damn, I really got to stop typing long crap like that on my cell phone. I need punctuation damnit.
I tried it a while back at Best Buy, especially since Google is handing out a free $10. Yeah, it's nothing special, but I like the idea of keeping some cash on there in case I ever leave my wallet at home. I've gone out of town on business before only to get 2 hours down the road and realize I don't have my wallet. I NEVER leave my phone. It's a good option to have.
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Damn, I really got to stop typing long crap like that on my cell phone. I need punctuation damnit.
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I've seen much worse
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Deanwvu said:
I do not see the appeal.
It's just as easy (easier, really) to swipe a credit card.
I do not see the advantage of making a purchase process more complicated--NFC requires a powered, active, working phone. What if the phone crashes? What if the battery dies?
A credit card is solid state, requires no power, and is usable just about anywhere...
Am I missing something?
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It's because you're now old school.
Don't worry I argued this same point - there's not much appeal when I have to carry a wallet anyway for my ID and some cash for places that charge for credit cards. Google wallet takes more work than paying for a card for me.
But I could see this being a fundamental shift in payment for younger generations who might have a phone but no real need for a wallet - who will grow up used to this system.
The real issue at the moment is battery life, I'm sure 5-10 years from now week+ battery life will be the norm and using phone for everything will become acceptable. Phones will also not be so fragile (cough iphone) so it will be as reliable as a piece of card (or almost).
Personally though, I think an NFC card would be way more convenient. It could be the size of a credit card, with a touch screen interface that lets you use it for payment or as a driver's license. But this kind of tech is probably at least 10 years away.
Can I ask you guys which method is the best one out there ?
I do have root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365360
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20404813&postcount=350
I think I'm a little confused by wallet. I know it wasn't inclued out of the box because of Verizon. I was able to download it from the market, install and activate it. I have the $10 and went to test it. I went to pay and the phone said sent but did not display the merchant for confirmation and the merchant didn't receive it either. They are supposedly setup for it. Do I need to grab one the other APKs and reinstall or is there any ideas you guys may have? I've searched plenty and saw no mention of what I'm experiencing. Thanks for any insight.
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Thank you!
finally some one that sees the truth
Deanwvu said:
I do not see the appeal.
It's just as easy (easier, really) to swipe a credit card.
I do not see the advantage of making a purchase process more complicated--NFC requires a powered, active, working phone. What if the phone crashes? What if the battery dies?
A credit card is solid state, requires no power, and is usable just about anywhere...
Am I missing something?
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Deanwvu said:
I do not see the appeal.
It's just as easy (easier, really) to swipe a credit card.
I do not see the advantage of making a purchase process more complicated--NFC requires a powered, active, working phone. What if the phone crashes? What if the battery dies?
A credit card is solid state, requires no power, and is usable just about anywhere...
Am I missing something?
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I am on the fence, see the pros and cons with both...but eventually when the NYC MTA implements this technology broadly it would pretty sweet to use if you happen to misplace or forget your train ticket and/or metro card
For now, I have to agree. It is less convenient than just using a card.
What would ultimately be really cool is to replace all those things we're talking about with just your phone. Unlock your house, start your car, verify your identity, pay for stuff... all with one device. But until I can ditch my wallet and keys entirely, it's just another way to complicate things instead of a solution to make life simpler. Can't wait for the future!
I've now used it at about 5 different locations and it's pretty fast, with much potential. assuming you've entered your pin ahead of time, it's faster than paying with a physical card. my phone hasn't crashed for more than a month (since going to custom roms) and fcs are extremely rare. therefore it's as reliable as I expect it to be
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My phone gave me fits when I tried to use Google Wallet at Rite Aid. Fortunately the cashier mived the rest of the line behind me to a free register so I could keep trying, because I had to start over like 8 times. It's a nice gimmick for now, but it won't really be practical until more businesses support it and the bugs get worked out.
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I see the appeal in that my phone is quickly becoming my life "tool"
First it integrated my iPod/music player, now does movies, now does hand held games, mobile web browser and email means its now used for work purposes... replicon now has timesheet app so it also records my time in/out of a job......google wallet is now what I use to pay for groceries at the store instead of carrying my wallet in my pocket and possibly loosing my wallet... if my phone is lost, they have to go through 3 passwords before getting to my wallet.
Im thinking more of it as a "why not"... my phone is becoming more and more useful
out for a run with only my phone, need a drink, run into cvs, swipe phone
I used it at 7-11 yesterday just to test it with the free $10. It worked flawlessly but I don't see replacing my wallet until everyone accepts this interface.
I would use it more now if I was able to add my Wells Fargo debit card. Hopefully the ability to add any type of debit/credit card will be the next stag of evolution for this service.
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One advantage is that you can see all your previous transactions electronically more conveniently (not having to log into your credit card account, or wait a day or two before the transaction showing up there).
Another advantage is that coupons and deals can be used more easily. For example, right now if you go into Google Wallet, you can choose offers like 15% off entire purchase at Gap & Banana Republic when you pay with NFC. The offers are pretty limited right now, but I reserve my judgement until Google Wallet or Isis (Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile NFC payment system) take off.
In principle, it is more secure since even if you lost your phone, with your phone unlocked, other people can't use it for NFC payment since it requires an additional PIN code. But then of course losing the phone itself probably costs a lot too...
If Google Wallet or Isis gain traction, more credit card companies will jump in. And hopefully that means you can add more credit cards can be stored on your phone, eliminating the need to carry a number of physical cards.
Oh... and it saves a lot of time for a typical female not having to find an additional item in their over-stuffed purses.
so im thinking about installing it and linking it to my citi card...does even use it? is it really more convenient? do a lot of places you go to in your everyday life accept it?
I use it at 7-11 a lot. I'm on Verizon by the way.
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I use it at 7-11 a lot. I'm on Verizon by the way.
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apparently i already have google wallet enabled online...my card is linked to my gmail for apps in the playstore...i guess i just need to log in...but im not sure i want to do that if its not useable at a lot of stores...and i dont want to stand there like a moron tapping my phone on a pay device and it not doing anything lol
if these paypass locations are really prevalent then it would be awesome thing to have...if its hit or miss, then theres no point
Try it?
What's the loss here, I don't get it?
But for me, yes, it is hit and miss.
I think it's due to lack of a decent pay pass here.
Our 7-11 works for me...usually.
Everywhere else it practically never does.
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Try it?
What's the loss here, I don't get it?
But for me, yes, it is hit and miss.
I think it's due to lack of a decent pay pass here.
Our 7-11 works for me...usually.
Everywhere else it practically never does.
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the loss:
1. a lot of people are getting locked out of google wallet after flashing new roms (i read that resetting the app prior to flashing something is needed)
id whether not risk it right now and wait until google wallet takes off in case i got locked out..then ill be mad when i cant use it when i actually want to
2. security reasons...i dont need my CC info stored on an extra app if im not even going to use it
I flash cm9 nightlies all the time and use wallet almost everyday. I don't get locked out. But i am only wiping cache and dalvik cache. If you are doing a full wipe between roms then it is advised to go into your google wallet app and de-provision your wallet so that you don't risk getting the secure element lockout. Also nandroid backups are always recommended. People got locked out a few weeks ago too because of a wallet security flaw they needed to patch so provisioning of new cards was disabled.
Security isn't a worry here especially if you're using a prepaid card. Everything requires your pin and also if you link it to a prepaid card the only thing at risk would be whatever small amount of prepaid money you have on there. If you had a remote wipe application you'd even be able to wipe your phone before anyone even attempted to guess your pin. Also let's not forget a quick call to the money network could disable your wallet just like you would with a traditional credit card.
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For Google wallet do you have to have a citi credit card or can it be a debit card as well
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For Google wallet do you have to have a citi credit card or can it be a debit card as well
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No you can also use a wallet prepaid card. You can put however much money you want on it and fill it up whenever it runs low. It'll process just like a credit card.
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I use google wallet often at 711.
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I use it for small purchases at places like CVS, Duane Reade, 7-11. Always gets a cool reaction from cashiers.
the pop machines at my school (ohio state) have credit card/paypass readers. i use it all the time there. it makes me feel like im saving money by not actually feeding cash into it. i enjoy lying to myself!
I've tried it but it seems to me that unless I open the app beforehand, it takes more time than Swiping a card. Every time I put it on the reader without first having opened wallet beforehand, it asks me for my pin before it goes through. Seems to take more time. Now, if I open the app before placing it on the reader, it works well. it is pretty cool and saves a second maybe.
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Used the free 10 bucks initially but haven't reloaded a card since then. Its too bad Google doesn't get more banks and credit card companies on board. I'm not going to waste my time loading prepaid cards when there's no added benefit.
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All the time!!! Very useful when I go jogging and don't want to carry my wallet..
Use it to buy water, gatorade etc. from Duanereade. As for the delay, its the same as taking your wallet out and your card.. Just open the app when you are walking over to the cashier and you are golden
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Hey I'm at OSU too. I use Gwallet as much as I can because I want to push the standard. I agree it's annoying they don't have more options for debit or credit, but I'm willing to go out of my way a little bit to try and move things toward a digital wallet.
I want to store credit cards i rarely use, driver's license, loyalty cards, medical insurance cards, etc etc etc.
It sucks google missed the boat by not supporting stuff in wallet outside of credit cards because i would love to use that to stick all my kroger, walgreens, etc loyalty cards in and not have to install anything else.
what are other people using? lemon? i'd rather not have to install ANYTHING else, but if i do, i want it to be able to securely lock up all the stuff i dont want to carry around with me.
what are other people using who dont like carrying a wallet around with them?
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I want to store credit cards i rarely use, driver's license, loyalty cards, medical insurance cards, etc etc etc.
It sucks google missed the boat by not supporting stuff in wallet outside of credit cards because i would love to use that to stick all my kroger, walgreens, etc loyalty cards in and not have to install anything else.
what are other people using? lemon? i'd rather not have to install ANYTHING else, but if i do, i want it to be able to securely lock up all the stuff i dont want to carry around with me.
what are other people using who dont like carrying a wallet around with them?
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I'm presently using LastPass, and ponied up for a year's subscription. You can do a two week trial to decide whether it's worth it to you or not. I dig it, and there are mobile and PC versions. That said, it's the only one I've ever used.
https://lastpass.com/
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I'm presently using LastPass, and ponied up for a year's subscription. You can do a two week trial to decide whether it's worth it to you or not. I dig it, and there are mobile and PC versions. That said, it's the only one I've ever used.
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How are you actually using LastPass to digitize your wallet? I've been a paying LastPass member for almost two years now. I love it and all, but I don't seem to recall LastPass having features to digitize cards and stuff.
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How are you actually using LastPass to digitize your wallet? I've been a paying LastPass member for almost two years now. I love it and all, but I don't seem to recall LastPass having features to digitize cards and stuff.
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It's under Secure Notes - you can choose Credit Card as an option. I believe you can also attach an image to it, if you'd like to take a picture of your physical card as well.
i like to know if i'm at the next '10 cents off' range on my kroger card.
do either of these apps accurately show you your kroger points as well? i see kroger has an app that does that..does keyring or lemon or lastpass provide this info or do they just store the loyalty id #?
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It's under Secure Notes - you can choose Credit Card as an option. I believe you can also attach an image to it, if you'd like to take a picture of your physical card as well.
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Ah I see. Come to think of it, I've never actually used the Secure Note feature. Looks like it could be useful, but I don't think I could be bothered to add all my cards lol
nyvram1 said:
i like to know if i'm at the next '10 cents off' range on my kroger card.
do either of these apps accurately show you your kroger points as well? i see kroger has an app that does that..does keyring or lemon or lastpass provide this info or do they just store the loyalty id #?
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LastPass seems to simply store textual information and an optional image. As far as I can tell, there is no system that checks balances or point totals.
there is a kroger app that does it :banghead: but i was hoping for something to avoid that.
looks like w/ all the coupons that kroger app might be worth installing anyway in addition to giving me the monthly balance on my points (since they reset every 30 days)
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I want to store credit cards i rarely use, driver's license
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I'll stop you RIGHT there... Yes, there are apps that will store loyalties and credit in one bundle, a couple mentioned here are quite good...
Your driver's license though?!?! Sorry man, until the government endorses an "App" that allows it, you're not giving that card up anytime soon. I don't think there's a Cop on the planet that would take your word that an image of your license on your phone couldn't be altered and is just as good as the hologram embedded copy-proof ID that the government issues to avoid fraud. haha
I'll stop you RIGHT there...
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ok fair enough. i know the driver's license isn't kosher...but if they're just looking it up to see if its legit anyway what is the point of the little plastic thing?
ok that aside (and yeah i know its needed to get into bars)..i still want to store everything else if possible.
like my HSA debit card..i rarely if ever pull that out except to pay a bill when i'm sitting in my office and i'm just reading the stupid card anyway. rarely if ever use it in real life.
oh and 100 posts woo hoo.
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like my HSA debit card..i rarely if ever pull that out except to pay a bill when i'm sitting in my office and i'm just reading the stupid card anyway. rarely if ever use it in real life.
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What good does storing a debit card do anyway? I mean, unless I'm seriously missing something or misunderstanding, you're basically storing the number, expiry date, security digits and possibly a photo of it in most cases. It won't store chip data (assuming chip+pin debit card) or mag stripe info (for mag stripe cards). The only way I can see it being used after digitized is online. But you most likely wouldn't pay your bill from your phone anyway, would you?
well.its a debit/credit card.
i get these little paper invoices from clincs for my kids and i just call the 800# and give them my card # over the phone to pay them.
but i never carry the HSA card with me so having it on the phone means i should have all the numbers & stuff i need to do the bill paying over the phone.
i should point out its technically a 'debit' card since the HSA is a bank account, but i don't actually use it that way with a PIN or anything.
Here's what I use... http://goo.gl/Kc2S6
The developer is constantly updating the application and he is really open to feedback. The application allows you to add anything so that you always have it with you. The only thing I'm not sure of right now is if he lets you add pictures of the card, I think he would add it though if you suggested it. The alternative is Lemon Wallet, http://goo.gl/FVv5G
This is what i use and i love it.
http://timothyjc.blogspot.com/2010/12/wallet-for-android.html
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well.its a debit/credit card.
i get these little paper invoices from clincs for my kids and i just call the 800# and give them my card # over the phone to pay them.
but i never carry the HSA card with me so having it on the phone means i should have all the numbers & stuff i need to do the bill paying over the phone.
i should point out its technically a 'debit' card since the HSA is a bank account, but i don't actually use it that way with a PIN or anything.
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Maybe the UK does things differently. Debit cards are basically the standard way to pay by card in the UK. Most, if not all, are visa or MasterCard and all by now should have chips in them, so it's not exactly easy to digitise. Are things different wherever you are?
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Yea, with how much fraud we have here in the States and how much banks say they want to keep your money safe, implementing chip&PIN is apparently too expensive an endeavor for us.
I just memorized my card number and leave it locked up at home *shrug*
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Are there going to be store cards like iTunes available or do we have to use a credit card.
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Are there going to be store cards like iTunes available or do we have to use a credit card.
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for now, and for a long time probably - given how slow things are developing... it will be only credit card (note: they only just added the ability to MODIFY your credit card # last week)
But given that gamestop (I assume they are exactly the same as EBGames) stocks gamecards for their other consoles, then they will also push to have gamecards for their OUYA's instore
NB the xbox359 didn't get gamecards until nearly the end of the RROD days
The cards will be available for launch, well at least that's what Julie told me
and it's pretty cool. my first attempt failed horribly at Best Buy, though. go figure, right? a tech store that had issues with it. it kept saying card error, and just wouldn't work at all, so i had to use my actual card.
then i went over to stop and shop and it worked flawlessly. got my $30 gift card to best buy for doing my first purchase too! pretty cool, just wonder why it didn't work at best buy.
Used mine at a gas station. The guy behind the counter was like, "did you just use your phone as a card?". I said yup. He turns to the woman working with him and said, "he just used his phone as a card!". And then both of them looked at and instantly reminded me of the robber from the jet.com commercial when the top of his head blows off in a cloud of purple and he declares "sorcery". I told them how it work and that they just had their first experience with Samsung pay and I walked out.
That's crazy I was making purchases with Google wallet on my nexus 4 years ago. I switched to android pay because my bank doesn't support samsung pay. I haven't tried it out yet.
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and it's pretty cool. my first attempt failed horribly at Best Buy, though. go figure, right? a tech store that had issues with it. it kept saying card error, and just wouldn't work at all, so i had to use my actual card.
then i went over to stop and shop and it worked flawlessly. got my $30 gift card to best buy for doing my first purchase too! pretty cool, just wonder why it didn't work at best buy.
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Decided to try it out yesterday (my 2nd day with the phone) and so far so good. Had my gift card before my first purchase was in my hands. Then headed to Best Buy to use that to purchase a fast wireless charger for cheap. Only issue I ran into was the card reader at BB tried to read twice but failed the 2nd time. Just wish it could work with gas pumps where you have to insert the card.
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That's crazy I was making purchases with Google wallet on my nexus 4 years ago. I switched to android pay because my bank doesn't support samsung pay. I haven't tried it out yet.
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i never used android pay because it never supported any of my cards....then samsung pay came along, supported every card i have, and uses the magnetic field instead of needing to keep NFC on all the time, and it just seems so much better. the way it's implemented with the swipe up from lock screen is awesome and real fast.
I had no idea that I could just tap it on the card reader and it would basically emulate a credit card swiping. I tried it earlier today and it works fine, and I love that NFC is no longer needed. This will make it much easier to have payments accepted literally anywhere now.
I used mine at a vending machine. A $1.50 bottle of Diet Coke landed me a $30 Best Buy gift card. Awesome!
Will that work if you go back to factory?
Yes it will
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