This is going to seem pretty contrary to most xda posters, but I need some help. I have a 1g Kindle Fire that I rooted about 8 months ago using TWRP and CM10 with a JB ROM. It worked really well in almost every aspect but battery life. The battery would drain quickly even in standby mode, and I essentially stopped reading, browsing, or even playing with my tablet because of the issues.
So I've decided to go back to the original kindle OS despite the terrible interface and software access. I had saved a backup so it was no problem at all to switch back. However, the Kindle OS version wont update automatically anymore. My current software version is 6.3.1, and ive seen on the amazon page that a 6.3.2 update exisits. So here are my questions:
Is there an easy way to update the kindle OS to the latest version?
Will I brick my device if I go through the web update/manual file download that amazon offers? (I'm concerned that this is an execcutable software fire and not a Rom.)
Is it worth me updating to that version?
I would just use a stock 6.3.2 rom. or are you looking to break root?
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tobiascuypers said:
I would just use a stock 6.3.2 rom. or are you looking to break root?
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I'm not looking to break root, because I can foresee a time where I'd go back to a CM version if it had comparable battery life. A new 6.3.2 ROM means (as I understand it) starting from scratch with Apps/registration/etc, as opposed to simply updating the existing 6.3.1 OS. If it were a major update, I would absolutely just start over with the newest revision.
My real concern was downloading the software from Amazon's update website, and finding out that the file was an autoexec file that would brick my currently rooted kindle.
Since most people choose to root & go with a more robust OS (CM10) there are a good number of sites and resources, but there are very few resources dedicated to going back to the Amazon OS, and/or upgrading after going back.
I'm pretty sure that my 6.3.2 will be fine with out a full data wipe. You just wipe /cache /delvik /system and flash. It should be fine. But
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rabbiferret said:
I'm not looking to break root, because I can foresee a time where I'd go back to a CM version if it had comparable battery life. A new 6.3.2 ROM means (as I understand it) starting from scratch with Apps/registration/etc, as opposed to simply updating the existing 6.3.1 OS. If it were a major update, I would absolutely just start over with the newest revision.
My real concern was downloading the software from Amazon's update website, and finding out that the file was an autoexec file that would brick my currently rooted kindle.
Since most people choose to root & go with a more robust OS (CM10) there are a good number of sites and resources, but there are very few resources dedicated to going back to the Amazon OS, and/or upgrading after going back.
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The Amazon update will not brick your Kindle, but you will have to reroot it as it returns it to stock. For CM battery life, disable Wi-Fi when going into standby mode for extended periods as that is what is draining your battery.
zerbey said:
The Amazon update will not brick your Kindle, but you will have to reroot it as it returns it to stock. For CM battery life, disable Wi-Fi when going into standby mode for extended periods as that is what is draining your battery.
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Yup. My four year old has CM10 on his kindle and that thing never drains in standby. His WiFi is broken so I always assumed the battery life was just awesome.
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Markyzz said:
Yup. My four year old has CM10 on his kindle and that thing never drains in standby. His WiFi is broken so I always assumed the battery life was just awesome.
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Thanks to everyone. I've been reading a lot more on my kindle since I returned to the amazon OS. With the suggested WiFi battery drain being a problem, I may just give CM10 another shot for a month to see how the battery manages before going for the upgrade of the Amazon OS.
I'm not sure of your opinions, but the worst part of the amazon OS isn't the interface, but the silly limits on software in the Amazon marketplace. I've heard that Barnes&Noble have given up their control, and are allowing Nook Tablet users to DL Google Play and all the apps they'd like. I sincerely hope that amazon follows suit, but I'm not exactly riddled with confidence.
Thanks again.
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Im going to be taking back my nookcolor for an exchange for a new kindle fire, i was just wondering how you guys like it hopefully root and install ics
The Fire is much better then the Nook Color. Now the Nook Tablet is pretty decent, but I don't have much experience with it so I can't tell you to get that one. I love my Fire. I loved it on stock and I really love it on the latest MIUI. It runs so smooth and everything I have tried to run on it works.
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The Fire is much better then the Nook Color. Now the Nook Tablet is pretty decent, but I don't have much experience with it so I can't tell you to get that one. I love my Fire. I loved it on stock and I really love it on the latest MIUI. It runs so smooth and everything I have tried to run on it works.
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Thanks for your reply, I was looking here at a way to root and install a recovery, sso there isn't cwm? (I forgot the name of the recovery used in the vedio)
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I just bought my kindle fire last night. Its great. I really like how amazon intergrated all its services into its UI. But I really thinking of rooting it to have access to the android market for widgets on go launcher. I don't see myself jumping to CM7 until CM9 is stable.
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I've had CM9 up and running for a couple weeks now with absolutely no issues whatsoever. I loved the stock Kindle Fire; really love it now!
Ok well hopefully Walmart will take my cm7 nookcolor Im sure they wont notice, what's worrying me is the recovery, there's no cwm type of recovery so it looks confusing and also the whole processes of rooting and recovery, I have experience but maybe its just intimidating
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Android311 said:
Ok well hopefully Walmart will take my cm7 nookcolor Im sure they wont notice, what's worrying me is the recovery, there's no cwm type of recovery so it looks confusing and also the whole processes of rooting and recovery, I have experience but maybe its just intimidating
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It's actually amazingly easy. You can use KindleFireUtility to root, install the FireFireFire (yellow triangle caution sign) bootloader, and also install TWRP (TeamWin Recovery Project) touch recovery. There is also a CWM touch recovery for KF you can find here
Can I use superoneclick? So what's the recovery to use in your opinion
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superoneclick don't work anymore since 6.2.1
and as BluesHawk said there are two recovery progs - test both and use the one you like
TWRP works just fine, haven't had any issues with it
Ok thanks ill be getting the tablet tonight thanks all for the replies, ill post if I'm succeful on the root!
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goodluck on your exchange hopefully they take it back. Also have fun with the kindle when you get it. There are some things you need to get used to but once you do the kindle will be a great tablet to use.
It's really easy to root if you just use the Kindle Fire Utility. All you have to do is just plug it in and then click the button.
The kindle fire is much better than the nook.
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I wouldn't recommend the kindle fire. I have two. Sad is that there is no microSD expansion and ram is 512mb. At the end of format and OS storage you only have 4gb of storage to work with. Space is limited. While if you go for the Nook tablet which is the same price, you can get a microSD expansion and 1GB ram with all the same features of a kindle. I think that's better. Also the kindle only reads mobi ebooks. You already have a nook color which if u had books in them, they read different type from the kindle. Making that conversion can be a hassle.
Coming from the Nook Color the Kindle Fire totally rocks and blows the socks of nook color, I was always somewhat dissatisfied with the performance of the nook color, the Kindle Fire is a fantastic upgrade. And rooting is fairly simply just look around the forums for the easy to follow instructions, I've been running cm7 as my daily driver for quite sometime, it's super stable. Enjoy your purchase.
I've had a Kindle Fire since about two days after it's release and I've tried many of the ROMs, including cm7 and cm9. Right now, I'm sticking with cm7 since it's the most stable ROM besides the stock. I'll make the switch to cm9 once they get HW UI Acceleration. Without that, most of my games freeze up along with some other apps. Hopefully the devs can get past that though.
Do it
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I wouldn't recommend the kindle fire. I have two. Sad is that there is no microSD expansion and ram is 512mb. At the end of format and OS storage you only have 4gb of storage to work with. Space is limited. While if you go for the Nook tablet which is the same price, you can get a microSD expansion and 1GB ram with all the same features of a kindle. I think that's better. Also the kindle only reads mobi ebooks. You already have a nook color which if u had books in them, they read different type from the kindle. Making that conversion can be a hassle.
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Custom roms.
Hi all,
First of all,I would like to thank all xda community for providing such dedicated forum.I love my kindle fire with cm7.So here comes the question,should I try ics roms ? if so,which is the most stable one as of now ? my main concerns are stability and battery consumption.
best regards,
I started a similar thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621073 it may help you out a bit. I've tried many of the ICS ROM's and really like gedeROM. I've used it with Hash's #7 and #8 Kernel and have had 0 issues except what is stated by the dev. gedeROM is having some issues with not taking ADB commands, at least that's what I read. I suppose there is a little bit of risk involved with that. If you find yourself in a jam you may limit your options in finding a solution. Nonetheless many people are still using it and really like it.
Thanks a lot.
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I am running Reloaded CM9 from BiteBlaze and it works almost flawless with the 3.0 #8 kernel. I can get about 2-3 days before charging and that is with moderate to heavy usage.
I just posted this on a similar thread thats going on, im just gonna copy and paste it here as I think it applies.
"It's funny to me how these roms seem to work differently for different people. I mean shouldn't all of these devices be the same? gedeROM works perfect for me, no wifi issues at all, but I couldn't get Energy to run at all no matter what I did.
I think the real answer to your question is that there isn't one best rom, you just have to try them and see which one seems to like your device the best "
Aokp has been very reliable for me so far, and I've been charging normally from a wall charger. Reloaded seemed to eat battery and wouldn't charge whilst switched on. Other than that it was very good.
My pick has to be aokp milestone5 though. Seems very feature-complete (although some people have said that Google earth doesn't work on it), and the battery acts how I expect it to.
I've been using the CM9 ROM that Hashcode has up next to his kernel releases. Once I figured out how to get the android market installed and the amazon market installed, I've been all set. Every app I've installed from either market has worked without issue so far.
The only hiccups app-wise was the Swype installer detects the screen size is too large, but someone pointed me at a solution for that, and Chrome beta is..well, a beta.
I haven't run into the charging issues that people have had, but I'm using either the stock charger or my 3G Kindle cable plugged into a USB3 port. I have a general feeling that most of the charging issues are due to using ****ty cables or lack of understanding that the 3.0 kernel Hashcode is working on doesn't properly report battery/charging just yet.
Video is smoother than the stock Amazon ROM and apps in general feel snappier, even with it clocked to 800Mhz whereas most ROMs seems to run 1GHz by default, I'm underclocking a bit just to see how it'll react.
Overall, I'm 100% happier with Hashcode's CM9 ROM that I ever was with the Kindle Fire at stock. I'm sure I'm missing out on some of the Amazon integration features and content, but Jeff Bezos doesn't hold a monopoly on content, so I can get everything from other places.
So I've gotten myself a Nexus 7 and the plan for the Kindle is to pass it on to my dad. While I'm okay hacking around on the device, and flashing all sorts of roms, he most definately isn't. So I'm looking for the most stable rom that there is. I want to just set it and forget it. I don't care if it's ICS or GB. I just want to to be rock solid. The least bugs, the longest battery life, the least maintenance. What do you guys think?
Personally, if I were giving a kf to a family member I would take it back to stock. If you want to give him access to the Google Play Store then install Modaco. I think either of those options offer the best battery and are completely trouble free.
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JimCo06 said:
Personally, if I were giving a kf to a family member I would take it back to stock. If you want to give him access to the Google Play Store then install Modaco. I think either of those options offer the best battery and are completely trouble free.
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I really appreciate your input, but I really like open systems, and I also really like community projects, so something based on Cyanogen would be greatly prefered. I will consider Modaco if I can't find anything else that works though.
i would recomend this one. most stable at this moment. and more apps to install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475054
This is the rom I've found to be most stable, also CM7:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508802
I've found that the GedeROM is very stable, has exceptional battery life and has limited OTG support for expandability. Everything works, it's a ICS ROM and it's really fast and smooth.
I highly recommend it.
More features include Beats Audio, Disabled in-app ads, and access to the full store, that is, you can see all apps even if they aren't supported for the fire.
HD videos like YouTube work great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619550
My wife has an original Kindle Fire that's completely stock and has been complaining it's slow. Is it worth the work, rooting it and installing a custom ROM onto it or does the table not have the system specs to run the newer 4.x versions of Android without being as slow as it is now or slower?
I too have a 1st gen kindle fire. I have rooted it and put various roms (ICS, JB and now KK) on it. I do not feel it is slow.
If your wife doesn't mind losing the amazon launcher and such, then I say go for it. She may lose the ability to swap books or watch streaming amazon movies though.
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I too have a 1st gen kindle fire. I have rooted it and put various roms (ICS, JB and now KK) on it. I do not feel it is slow.
If your wife doesn't mind losing the amazon launcher and such, then I say go for it. She may lose the ability to swap books or watch streaming amazon movies though.
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I think she might have 2-3 books from Amazon on there but I'm assuming the Amazon app from Google Play will pick those up. Other than that she's mostly surfing the internet or playing words with friends on it.
What ROM are you using now? How's it's performance?
I have been using all of the releases from twa_priv:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2410112
[ROM] [4.4] CM11.0/SGT7 for the Kindle Fire [20131130]
twa_priv and hashcode have been keeping us 1st gen users up to date with the good stuff.
I've only had the kit kat rom for a day so I can't comment on it much. Youtube works fine on it though. The JB roms have been around longer. Bugs get fixed pretty quick.
But to each his own. There are more to choose from.
You may want to look here also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2150317
paulsonmcreilly said:
I have been using all of the releases from twa_priv:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2410112
[ROM] [4.4] CM11.0/SGT7 for the Kindle Fire [20131130]
twa_priv and hashcode have been keeping us 1st gen users up to date with the good stuff.
I've only had the kit kat rom for a day so I can't comment on it much. Youtube works fine on it though. The JB roms have been around longer. Bugs get fixed pretty quick.
But to each his own. There are more to choose from.
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I have the 1st Gen Kindle Fire, and the new ROMS give it plenty of life.:good:
I have installed the nightly from CM11 12/10/13 and it is really smooth and quick. The only issue is the browser crashing when you select new incognito tab, other than that, its the best ROM to date.
Thanks Hashcode!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just got one of these fairly cheap and considered just selling it when I realized how cucked the stock OS was.
Decided against it and have already finished rooting, installing gapps, FFF and TWRP. I will admit that my computer took forever to recognize the device while it was in fastboot, had to let it sit overnight with the kindle off then it randomly worked the next day without another PC reboot... anyway...
I want to know what is the best ROM for the kindle. I've flashed roms in the past to other devices and most seem to have random issues, slightly too old but stable, latest **** that runs too slow, etc.
So, is there any kind of consensus all these years later for this Gen 1 Kindle? What is/are the best rom(s)?
(please don't start some argument like AR15 vs AK, Glock v 1911 grip angles, Prusa vs Ender, PC vs Cucksole gaming, etc)
did you find out ? i am looking to revive it , it still pretty funtional.
Unfortunately no, I didn't really find any great options and put this on the back burner. Likely just going to try to sell it