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[Q] Why CM9?

CM9 seems to be making good progress and seems to be generating lots of excitement.
I'm trying to decide if this is for me. I've been reading some of the threads, but can't seem to find clear answer to some basic questions:
What are the advantage of CM9 and ICS?
Is about new "killer" features which are only available on ICS? If yes, what are they?
Or is it simply about having the latest/newest thing? (A sentiment I can identify with, but which I currently don't share)
Are there any advantages/disadvantages in terms of smoothness/speed, more/less memory, better/worse battery usage, stability/instability, or other general areas which aren't necessarily associated with any one feature?
(I realize CM9 is still in alpha mode; I've read the bug list and I think I can live with that for now if there are overall positive advantages).
I thank you in advance for responding (or for pointing me to another post/thread where these questions are clearly answered).

Its really about the newest GUI that makes it to die for. Its surprisingly smooth for an alpha does a little bit more battery consumption because it is a new OS version and all new OS are going to require more resources and RAM and other things in order run so the ovbious. Its really all up to your prefrence if you want the latest and greatest go for it. If you like your current setup and don't feel like the move is that important by all means stay. Its all opinion whether or not you make the "jump" is all up to you. I tried to unbiased as possible since I'm on it
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Chabsin said:
CM9 seems to be making good progress and seems to be generating lots of excitement.
I"m trying to decide if this is for me. I've been reading some of the threads, but can't seem to find clear answer to some basic questions:
What are the advantage of CM9 and ICS?
Is about new "killer" features which are only available on ICS? If yes, what are they?
Or is it simply about having the latest/newest thing? (A sentiment I can identify with, but which I currently don't share)
Are there any advantages/disadvantages in terms of smoothness/speed, more/less memory, better/worse battery usage, stability/instability, or other general areas which aren't necessarily associated with any one feature?
(I realize CM9 is still in alpha mod; I've read the bug list and I think I can live with that for now if there are overall positive advantages).
I thank you in advance for responding (or for pointing me to another post/thread where these questions are clearly answered).
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Here's the best anyone can tell you to sum it up.
Simply test Cm9 see if you like it check features do tests etc...
Try different kernels, cpu combos (schedulers, governors).
Yadada and so forth.
Hop you find whatcha ya looking for
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Nice well written question. Couple of quick observations on my part...battery is a little worse, stability is phenomenal, it uses a little more RAM, there are apps available exclusively for ICS and there will be more, it is very quick and snappy, and definitely for me about running the latest and also not available for the non-roots out there.
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I think the real question here is why not? What advantages do you have on stock that outweighs CM9? on a more serious note, I like to stick with the herd that unifies the updating experience into one rom instead of scattered roms. Hence, Cyanogenmod for me. Stock is still awesome, expecially toadlife and other stockish roms by others. Useful for dialer codes.
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I had the same question last Saturday, so I finally decided to made the jump and I'm liking it so far. It gives u a feeling of a new phone. I'm not regretting my decision but wish the battery was better. But I think u gonna like it
if I helped u in any way pls DONT hit the thanx button... I'm not a thanx-whore.

The only 2 reasons I know of to NOT jump to CM9 is the video tearing issue and the unavoidable fact that the battery lasts for less time.
If neither of these are a major concerns, CM9 should be your go to build.
Everything seems pretty much set to go, but CM9 is missing a few elements in respect to customization, that have yet to come upstream (hence the Alpha tag), themes is an example, but you can load them the old fashioned way if you want.

I would have to say don't worry about it using more RAM and battery. I ran the v6 supercharger and my RAM consumption is super low. Juice defender has also worked great for battery life. Waaay better than the phones stock capabilities.
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Its worked great for me. I like to jump around roms and try new stuff a lot and I've stuck with cm9 for a while. Like it a lot...no crashes...no problems....only drawback might be battery life BUT I'm always around a charger so I'm not too worried about that
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kennyglass123 said:
Nice well written question. Couple of quick observations on my part...battery is a little worse, stability is phenomenal, it uses a little more RAM, there are apps available exclusively for ICS and there will be more, it is very quick and snappy, and definitely for me about running the latest and also not available for the non-roots out there.
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Agreed, I'm looking forward to seeing what new apps will be available with ICS.

There really are no standouts as to why cm9 is better to me, until I actually use it. Everything works better to me. Copy paste, options such as chrome browser w the sweet quick zoom option. Better t9 dialer as stock el30 only searched first or last name and cm9 searches both. There are many more little things that make it much improved to me. Folders are simple and easily organized. Very smooth w the right tweaks and overall my experience is better. I have a plethora of batteries now but battery life appears to be the same as gbread for me. I heavily use this phone for many purposes and haven't used gbread since October (had an ns4g) but for maybe a day or two. It works better for me.

I personally like CM9 due to the latest and greatest, however my biggest feature for CM9 is the bridging the gab between my laptop PC and my mobile devices. with ICS, I can natively sync chrome for example, which is a HUGE benefit for me when I have tons of bookmarks. I LOVE the UI changes in Google Apps, like GMail and Maps.
All in all, I have no problems with the build and say anyone that needs to bridge the gap between their devices should switch.
My two cents
Happy flashing!

if you want more settings control for things like app permissions then cm9 is not "there" yet (upstream issue NOT our amazing devs). Otherwise as others have said, it seems faster/more responsive. I've been using it since the first release. minimal bugs and annoyances but workable (for me at least) as a daily driver. I use zeam as my launcher so the visual diff from cm7 to cm9 did not seem all that much. It is nice to be able to take advantage of newer apps like chrome etc. I do miss the extra options/config available in cm7..
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Has development of CM7 slowed at all because of CM9?

danipoak said:
Has development of CM7 slowed at all because of CM9?
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To a halt.
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Thanks to all who replied.
No one has yet enumerated clearly the "killer features". But I hear it's more responsive - though it uses more juice. I'm hearing that it's a new experience. I suppose I'll have to try it out myself and decide. So far I've already converted to mtd. Now I can try it without a large time investment.
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i think the major changes are internal at this point. by using cm9 you are extending the "life" of your phone another year or so.. and by 'life' i guess i mean ability to take advantage of the wide range of new ics things (apps/improvements etc) as they come out.. the good news is you can always wait and do it later when things mature..
E.
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[Q] ICS rom recommendations

Hi all,
First of all,I would like to thank all xda community for providing such dedicated forum.I love my kindle fire with cm7.So here comes the question,should I try ics roms ? if so,which is the most stable one as of now ? my main concerns are stability and battery consumption.
best regards,

I started a similar thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621073 it may help you out a bit. I've tried many of the ICS ROM's and really like gedeROM. I've used it with Hash's #7 and #8 Kernel and have had 0 issues except what is stated by the dev. gedeROM is having some issues with not taking ADB commands, at least that's what I read. I suppose there is a little bit of risk involved with that. If you find yourself in a jam you may limit your options in finding a solution. Nonetheless many people are still using it and really like it.

Thanks a lot.
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I am running Reloaded CM9 from BiteBlaze and it works almost flawless with the 3.0 #8 kernel. I can get about 2-3 days before charging and that is with moderate to heavy usage.

I just posted this on a similar thread thats going on, im just gonna copy and paste it here as I think it applies.
"It's funny to me how these roms seem to work differently for different people. I mean shouldn't all of these devices be the same? gedeROM works perfect for me, no wifi issues at all, but I couldn't get Energy to run at all no matter what I did.
I think the real answer to your question is that there isn't one best rom, you just have to try them and see which one seems to like your device the best "

Aokp has been very reliable for me so far, and I've been charging normally from a wall charger. Reloaded seemed to eat battery and wouldn't charge whilst switched on. Other than that it was very good.
My pick has to be aokp milestone5 though. Seems very feature-complete (although some people have said that Google earth doesn't work on it), and the battery acts how I expect it to.

I've been using the CM9 ROM that Hashcode has up next to his kernel releases. Once I figured out how to get the android market installed and the amazon market installed, I've been all set. Every app I've installed from either market has worked without issue so far.
The only hiccups app-wise was the Swype installer detects the screen size is too large, but someone pointed me at a solution for that, and Chrome beta is..well, a beta.
I haven't run into the charging issues that people have had, but I'm using either the stock charger or my 3G Kindle cable plugged into a USB3 port. I have a general feeling that most of the charging issues are due to using ****ty cables or lack of understanding that the 3.0 kernel Hashcode is working on doesn't properly report battery/charging just yet.
Video is smoother than the stock Amazon ROM and apps in general feel snappier, even with it clocked to 800Mhz whereas most ROMs seems to run 1GHz by default, I'm underclocking a bit just to see how it'll react.
Overall, I'm 100% happier with Hashcode's CM9 ROM that I ever was with the Kindle Fire at stock. I'm sure I'm missing out on some of the Amazon integration features and content, but Jeff Bezos doesn't hold a monopoly on content, so I can get everything from other places.

[Q] Any ICS or even GB ROMs wife ready??

Guys with wives that are not tech savvy know what I am talking about. I need something super stable for my wife's KF to keep her from wanting to buy an ipad. Are any of the ROMs super stable? I prefer ICS but will settle for GB.

I find that the CM7 Barebones ROM is incredibly stable, though volume control could be improved. It just works well and has a much better run time than the ICS ROMs I've come across, not to mention the minimalist approach. Install only what you need and nothing more.
I've also hear good things about modaco, if you want to stick with Amazon's basic layout but want Google play access.

Thanks bro. Any more opinions??

My wife doesn't really like PCs and never has but she seems really comfortable with gede ROM that I installed on her Kindle. She has been using hers almost daily now.

YayILikePie said:
I find that the CM7 Barebones ROM is incredibly stable, though volume control could be improved. It just works well and has a much better run time than the ICS ROMs I've come across, not to mention the minimalist approach. Install only what you need and nothing more.
I've also hear good things about modaco, if you want to stick with Amazon's basic layout but want Google play access.
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CM7 bare bone, or stock + go launcher ex.
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mdaa83 said:
My wife doesn't really like PCs and never has but she seems really comfortable with gede ROM that I installed on her Kindle. She has been using hers almost daily now.
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I will 2nd gedeROM. It is a good ICS experience. Battery life leaves a little to be desired (although I still get 15 hours of life out of it).
I will 2nd the CM7 as a solid experience with much better performance (can sleep for hours and wake up 99-100% battery) and less bugs.
I guess I just like ICS since I am willing to put up with these little inconveniences for the experience.

[Q] Best ICS ROM without too many issues.

AOKP still the best for kindle
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I suggest gedeROM, SGT7, or Glazed ICS. All three of these ROMs have lots of features and are very stable.

josepho1997 said:
So I was just wondering which ROM is really good...
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This is kind of like asking what is the best tasting ice cream; everyone will have their favorites, but there is no definitive answer. I found the best thing to do is like what you started to do; try each one and see what works for you and what doesn't. I tried a few CM9 ROMs and each of them did not have the battery life that I wanted, so I am sticking with Modaco's rooted stock until CM9 is more efficient. Good luck in finding the ROM that works for you

I got my kindle fire a little over a week ago and I think I have flashed nearly every ICS ROM that has an active forum thread. I keep switching between them all hoping to make up my mind but mostly I forget which is which lol.
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I have installed 9 different ROMs. I like GlazedICS. It is responsive and very good on connectivity, battery life, and eye candy.

[Q] Extended batteries!

Hello hello!
So, I've had my evo for ages, (ages in modern tech terms of phones evolving, not an actually long time by human means) and, long story short, got a new phone, don't have the new phone, back on the evo.
I have the twin turbo GTR ROM and the battery life on my phone sucked. It wasn't the ROM, just letting you know that's what I have if it matters for this question!
So, I decided upon getting an extended battery. (I think 3500 or 4500 mAh, I can check when I get home, the case is fairly stuck on right now) and....I can't figure this thing out. The guide said that the phone will charge to 1,500, say 100%, but not truly be full, so you will need to leave it plugged in.....So I did, and upon unplugging it.....dropped, 99, 98, 97, all within about 10 minutes (normal for the evo, not for this new battery I would assume).
So, how do I make this work? What's the trick? I assume I can actually change the battery....settings(?) in the phone. I remember while in recovery seeing something about resetting the battery settings, and I vaguely remember something about DO NOT TOUCH THAT EVER UNLESS YOU KNOW WHY. Would now be a good time?
TL;DR; New extended battery, tips to get the most use of it? Also, since I am rooted and recoveried, what tricks can I do to make it properly read the new battery and it's larger mAh size.
****If you have a good ROM that you must recommend, or kernal, I am okay with that. I have no love for anything on my phone currently, kernel. rom, recovery, I'll replace it if you guys have good suggestions.
Thank you very much in advance!

First off, you want an SBC kernel on your ROM. Mason G if you have gingerbread, which you do, or Mason I if you're on ICS. Mazwoz's if you choose JB. Flash the appropriate kernel, charge the battery. Leave it on the charger for an extra hour for the hell of it and use it normally and let it drain fully. Recharge to full and it should calibrate. If not, there are plenty of battery calibration apps in the market.
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Awesome thank you! Also, if you or anyone knows, when i was using my evo last, they just started getting ics on it. I remember 4g was broken, and it seems now with the ics and JB roms, it's the same story. Are they planning on finding fix, or is it known that 4g will mst likely only work on GB? Either way I'll reflash my stuff, make sure I have the right stuff, charge, drain, and see how that goes. I would love to use JB simply to see if project butter helps my phone. The only phones I've used it on are at least 2-6x more powerful than my evo, so I can't tell how much project butter is helping, versus the few extra Ghz and cores.
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4G and FFC will likely never work. This device has been losing life at a steady rate. As far as JB, there are some good choices. With the proper set up and tweaking, it can become a daily. Well supported JB ROMs are evervolv, Mazwoz's JB, black bean AOKP, Baked AOKP, RemICS JB, and a couple others. All worth a try.
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death-by-soap said:
4G and FFC will likely never work. This device has been losing life at a steady rate. As far as JB, there are some good choices. With the proper set up and tweaking, it can become a daily. Well supported JB ROMs are evervolv, Mazwoz's JB, black bean AOKP, Baked AOKP, RemICS JB, and a couple others. All worth a try.
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Yeahhhh. That's why I switched to my S2 but long story short, here I am again with my Evo.
Have you used the JB ROMs? Does the project butter make it better than a GB ROM that is tweaked for speed?
I think tomorrow at work I may spend the day trying new ROMs so I may just see for myself, but input would be appreciated! Also, thank you for all the help so far

iytrix said:
Yeahhhh. That's why I switched to my S2 but long story short, here I am again with my Evo.
Have you used the JB ROMs? Does the project butter make it better than a GB ROM that is tweaked for speed?
I think tomorrow at work I may spend the day trying new ROMs so I may just see for myself, but input would be appreciated! Also, thank you for all the help so far
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I've tried most all JB ROMs. I even developed one. They run well but still not as well as original gingerbread. The 2.3.5 kind. Not the CM7 kind. Never really liked it. Personal opinion though. If you want a perfect Gingerbread ROM, check of Decks ReLoaded or some of MBQsniper's work. As for jellybean, try the ones I listed. You'll find something you like, guaranteed.
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I have used all the jb ROMs out there. They are usable if you over look the small things. No FFC, GPS, a few glitches in video. Miui is not good yet. But most all builds before 4.2 are very good and 4.2 will be there before long.
If you want a good sense with all bells and whistles sense 3.5 works. Only glitch is htcfacebook.apk but FFC GPS BT everything works. On 3500 battery 1 get 24 hr heavy use 12 hrs streaming videos. Normal use 4 days and minimal use up to 8 days. Same goes for the sense 1.0 ROMs. For me I have not had much luck with 3.0 sense.
I have flashed almost everything out over the past 2 years I have had an evo.
As far as special tricks for extended battery there recall are none. Just plug it in and use it.
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I have seen a few people ask this question- (will project butter help my phone?) Well project butter isn't actually a thing, it isn't an app or a system, its more of an idea. And the idea is to make the system run as smooth as butter. You can't dig through your system and find Google.projectbutter.apk lol. It is optimizations and implications for ease of use within the new phones coming out, and likely what they implement won't help on our evos because of our aging out of date hardware.
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brianvillage said:
I have seen a few people ask this question- (will project butter help my phone?) Well project butter isn't actually a thing, it isn't an app or a system, its more of an idea. And the idea is to make the system run as smooth as butter. You can't dig through your system and find Google.projectbutter.apk lol. It is optimizations and implications for ease of use within the new phones coming out, and likely what they implement won't help on our evos because of our aging out of date hardware.
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Are you sure? I know it isn't one thing, but I very clearly remember reading that google did some sneaky tricks to get things running more smoothly, but I felt like it had to do with just basically making the hardware work more effeciently than it currently was.
"How is all of this done you might ask, well Google have used a variety of methods to accomplish it, ranging from something called “vsync timing” (which is making sure there's a consistent frame rate across all screen drawings and animations) and triple buffering, which helps the over frame rates appear a lot better. There's also a nifty system that tries to predict where you’ll go next on your device and help you get there quicker; awesome. Project Butter allows smartphones to take a bit more power from their processors and allows you to step down on accelerate right when it’s needed. "
I read stuff basically like that. I suppose the more correct question would be, will putting a jelly bean OS on my phone make it run smoother than my current GB ROM. I usually understand that the newer ROMs on older phones tend to mean more lag and whatnot, but if the project butter tweaks make it run BETTER than the older ROMs, I may want to use it.
However, I am getting my S2 back tomorrow! That will have JB on it once it's back in my hands, and that thing was silky smooth with ICS so I'm not worried.
As a general question though, have people noticed differences from ICS to JB for speed, responsiveness, and smoothness?