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[Q] Fastest/best Gingerbread ROM?

I'm having trouble finding benchmarks or anything of the sort to figure out which ROM for the G2 is the fastest/best. Right now, I'm using CM7 Nightly, and it's definitely a huge improvement over the original, but before I settle in and keep it for good, I'm wondering if there's anything else I should consider.
Don't care about Sense UI or fancy animations or anything like that, just want something fast and simple (although I would like at least most of the CM7-specific options if possible, such as having the status bar at the bottom of the screen). Not interested in SD-based stuff, my SD card is only 8GB and class 2.

I gotta say I really liked coredroid but the mexidroid chili is the best rom I've used in my opinion. Smooth, battery is great, and its easy on the eyes.
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Spastic909 said:
I gotta say I really liked coredroid but the mexidroid chili is the best rom I've used in my opinion. Smooth, battery is great, and its easy on the eyes.
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Any idea how they compare to Pyromod or SuperCM7? I've seen mention and videos touting both as being very fast.

MeXdroid ghost chili is the smoothest and fastest rom I have used. You have to try it. You will not regret it.
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Not a fan of pyromod..that bkahblah dude is a ****. Guys says "you CANT" use his stuff without asking and the first time he released pyro he openly admitted he bit of myjbarr. But whatever some people are cooler than other.
But I'm seriously not being biased when I say the hot chili is as responsive as iphone(yes haters iphone still has the smoothesg os in regards to responsiveness) give it a shot man its painless lol.
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I agree with the post above. meXdroidMod is by far the best rom I have ever used. It's fast,stable and nice to look at.
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Same here, of all the rom I've tested, MeXdroid Prechilli is the best so far.
Tested:
*Ultimate droid -blackdroid.
*all virtuous roms
*Insertcoin
*all villian series roms

I have to agree on the meXdroid as well.

Getting 3027 on Quadrant off of PyroMod 2.3.5, making it even faster than CM6 was. I would like to jump on the Mexdroid bandwagon, but it was laggy and I got force closes every two seconds (yes, I wiped). It only took me an hour to switch back to PM.

My quadrant with meXdroidMod is 3374. I will upload a screen shot when I get home.
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my opinions (since I'm sick of seeing these threads and am having a bad morning ):
-mexdroid is ugly but functional. mjybarr apparently will be putting out a non-themed version.. possibly interested. I like the dev team, they are attentive and helpful.
-pyromod has stuck up, whiny devs (read the first few pages of their thread) and native a2sd on a device that has absolutely no use for external app storage/swap/compcache in the first place. just reeks all around if you ask me.
-all of the cm7 variants (aka every aosp gingerbread rom we have thus far with the exception of a couple built straight from the tmo gingerbread leak) are nearly identical to cm7 out of the box with the exception of adding/removing a few apks here and there, some theming and possibly some settings tweaks (vm heap size, wifi sleep policy, other useless things)... all things you can do yourself from the base. there are some proprietary scripts and apps that some devs have bundled with their releases, but most I've seen feel more like marketing ploys (use our rom because we have this!!!) than anything I'd ever actually utilize.
-there is no such thing as the "fastest" or "best" gingerbread rom. if your measuring stick for what is fastest or best is a quadrant score.. well, I just hope it isn't.
-if you want an aosp gb rom, just get cm7, uninstall adw and any other extraneous system apps, and go. you'll get updates before any of the other roms (considering they're building from CM source) and you will have a huge community to turn to in the event that you run into a bug.
DISCLAIMER: I appreciate, regardless of whether or not I use, all of the hours of work our devs/chefs put into creating cool stuff for us. I am not name-calling, belittling or in any other way demeaning members of xda, simply stating my opinion based off of months and months of observation in the Vision development scene.

pmcqueen said:
my opinions (since I'm sick of seeing these threads and am having a bad morning ):
-mexdroid is ugly but functional. mjybarr apparently will be putting out a non-themed version.. possibly interested. I like the dev team, they are attentive and helpful.
-pyromod has stuck up, whiny devs (read the first few pages of their thread) and native a2sd on a device that has absolutely no use for external app storage/swap/compcache in the first place. just reeks all around if you ask me.
-all of the cm7 variants (aka every aosp gingerbread rom we have thus far with the exception of a couple built straight from the tmo gingerbread leak) are nearly identical to cm7 out of the box with the exception of adding/removing a few apks here and there, some theming and possibly some settings tweaks (vm heap size, wifi sleep policy, other useless things)... all things you can do yourself from the base. there are some proprietary scripts and apps that some devs have bundled with their releases, but most I've seen feel more like marketing ploys (use our rom because we have this!!!) than anything I'd ever actually utilize.
-there is no such thing as the "fastest" or "best" gingerbread rom. if your measuring stick for what is fastest or best is a quadrant score.. well, I just hope it isn't.
-if you want an aosp gb rom, just get cm7, uninstall adw and any other extraneous system apps, and go. you'll get updates before any of the other roms (considering they're building from CM source) and you will have a huge community to turn to in the event that you run into a bug.
DISCLAIMER: I appreciate, regardless of whether or not I use, all of the hours of work our devs/chefs put into creating cool stuff for us. I am not name-calling, belittling or in any other way demeaning members of xda, simply stating my opinion based off of months and months of observation in the Vision development scene.
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I wouldn't say pyromod devs are stuck up. But a little bit jerkish yeah, but who isn't now adays. Mexdroid.....that's exaclt why I haven't used it. I heard it was great fast and the devs are cool but I just don't like the alien cartoon look so I hope they make a normal looking one. Ill jump then. Pyros last two updates I haven't been able to restore my apps. Only rom it has happened on. But like pmc said...your best bet is to just go cm7 since damn near all are based off of it. Or just go personal prefernce after trial and error.
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i was getting same speeds with pyro and mexdroid but after messin with tweaKr options mexdroid is faster.

If you know how to tweak and fine tune nothing beats cyanogen. I have tried every rom on the forum.
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I just tried the new version of Pyromod today. It really does seem a hair faster than CM, but it's hell on my battery. (Losing about 1% a minute)
I'm going back to Cyanogen right now.

I'm not getting a battery drain with PyroMod 2.3.5. People must really be addicted to Angry Birds for that.
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Lol, I promise you, Angry Birds wasn't the problem. I don't use my phone for games.
I was experiencing a battery drain when the phone was sitting on my desk with the screen off. I don't use facebook or twitter (and I uninstalled the apps that came preloaded with the ROM) and I turned my RSS reader/podcast updates off just to make sure that wasn't the cause. I even tried turning off mobile data and sync... didn't make a difference. (I also did a battery calibration, and tried three different spare batteries I have)
<shrugs> I'm not sure what caused it, I have a lot of different apps, so it's certainly possible one of them was the cause. The android battery usage report showed that the drain was coming from Screebl (it attributed 98% of battery use to Screebl) but I read some info on the Screebl forum page about Android reporting battery usage incorrectly, and honestly, I've been using Screebl for a long time and I've never had that experience, so I tend to believe the info provided by the Screebl developer on that subject.
Either ways, I'm back to CM 7.1 RC1 now and the battery drain is gone.
Pyromod really was nice looking though, and I gotta admit, it felt a little zippier then the base Cyanogen. If I could figure out what was causing the battery drain, I'd try it again for sure.

What's the best 2.3 Rom???

I want to try one of the 2.3 Roms based off of the leaks but I wanted to check with you guys and see what's the best Rom?
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jworkcoo said:
I want to try one of the 2.3 Roms based off of the leaks but I wanted to check with you guys and see what's the best Rom?
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Well, there's no perfect answer to this question. The best 2.3 ROM is the one that works best on your phone. Every ROM performs just a bit differently on each person's phone. Apps added and other changes made can also effect this. Our Epics can be like a second girlfriend...one minute giving you all kinds of love and happiness and the next minute can be a real pain in the ass...wait maybe I need a new girlfriend!
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JohnCorleone said:
Well, there's no perfect answer to this question. The best 2.3 ROM is the one that works best on your phone. Every ROM performs just a bit differently on each person's phone. Apps added and other changes made can also effect this. Our Epics can be like a second girlfriend...one minute giving you all kinds of love and happiness and the next minute can be a real pain in the ass...wait maybe I need a new girlfriend!
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HA! Perfect description John.
To the OP there are several good ROMs like Bamboozle, Bonsai, Scrambled Eggs...back up your phone and start flashing. I went to GB and never looked back.

kennyglass123 said:
HA! Perfect description John.
To the OP there are several good ROMs like Bamboozle, Bonsai, Scrambled Eggs...back up your phone and start flashing. I went to GB and never looked back.
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^^^^
This. Just try them all and see what happens
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Esteway.619 said:
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This. Just try them all and see what happens
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Yup, its all about trial and error. I can't tell you how many times I have tried a ROM and its worked perfect only for other users to report constant force closes. When you do find the ROMs that work perfect you will be a very happy camper. It pains me to run a stock setup now.
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Thanks! I will try a couple later on. It will be hard to leave the Regeneration Rom though....I love it.
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jworkcoo said:
Thanks! I will try a couple later on. It will be hard to leave the Regeneration Rom though....I love it.
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That's one of my two daily setups as well. CompKid nailed it. The other is SRF 1.2 by the way
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OP, you should make this a poll.. im curious to see which one everyone uses

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OP, you should make this a poll.. im curious to see which one everyone uses
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I agree. I have been wondering what a lot of people are using as their dailies.
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CM7.
jk. But I'd check out acs bamboozled...best gb rom I've used so far.

I've tried two (or three) 2.3 based roms and there has been a couple of things that have always caused me to go back to SRF 1.2:
No custom kernels = no overclock - I'm not a huge overclocking type of guy, but I always like to have it clocked at 1.12 or 1.2 ghz, just enough to keep it smooth but not high enough to run it hot or drain my battery.
No custom kernels = Cannot use Galaxy Tuner - I use Google Music as my primary source of car music, which means I needed to find an external app to use as an equalizer. Voodoo sound didn't work and Tuner froze on me every time I tried to use it.
Still Very buggy - I've run into a few bugs that have always irritated me, no matter how small they were. Whether it's something that freezes my phone or just kills the frame rate, I've just always been bugged (get it?) by bugs.
But where there is bad things, there have been a lot of good things that I absolutely loved about 2.3, almost enough to stay with it:
Live Backgrounds - For me, they've seem to have gotten better (stock ones anyways) and, as far as I could tell, they don't murder my battery or frame rate. The one I loved the most was this awesome looking clock that was a bunch of circles. It's hard to explain...
Screen off Animation - More eye candy, but awesome eye candy. Not much to say other then I love watching my phone turn off
Everything just seemed so smooth - Scrolling, opening apps up, etc, just seemed so fluid and clean, even if the frame rate was dropping for some reasons.
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Those are some of my personal pro's and con's on deciding whether to run 2.3 at this time or not. For me, the con's on top were more important then the pro's on the bottom. Needs are different for each person so I'm sticking with 2.2 for now until either the official release of 2.3 is out or we can start adding kernels and themes (etc etc).

T-980 said:
I've tried two (or three) 2.3 based roms and there has been a couple of things that have always caused me to go back to SRF 1.2:
No custom kernels = no overclock - I'm not a huge overclocking type of guy, but I always like to have it clocked at 1.12 or 1.2 ghz, just enough to keep it smooth but not high enough to run it hot or drain my battery.
No custom kernels = Cannot use Galaxy Tuner - I use Google Music as my primary source of car music, which means I needed to find an external app to use as an equalizer. Voodoo sound didn't work and Tuner froze on me every time I tried to use it.
Still Very buggy - I've run into a few bugs that have always irritated me, no matter how small they were. Whether it's something that freezes my phone or just kills the frame rate, I've just always been bugged (get it?) by bugs.
But where there is bad things, there have been a lot of good things that I absolutely loved about 2.3, almost enough to stay with it:
Live Backgrounds - For me, they've seem to have gotten better (stock ones anyways) and, as far as I could tell, they don't murder my battery or frame rate. The one I loved the most was this awesome looking clock that was a bunch of circles. It's hard to explain...
Screen off Animation - More eye candy, but awesome eye candy. Not much to say other then I love watching my phone turn off
Everything just seemed so smooth - Scrolling, opening apps up, etc, just seemed so fluid and clean, even if the frame rate was dropping for some reasons.
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Those are some of my personal pro's and con's on deciding whether to run 2.3 at this time or not. For me, the con's on top were more important then the pro's on the bottom. Needs are different for each person so I'm sticking with 2.2 for now until either the official release of 2.3 is out or we can start adding kernels and themes (etc etc).
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You know there can be no custom kernels until source code is released. But as for overclocking, many have had success with Tegrak from the market that has allowed overclocking on the GB leaked ROMS.

kennyglass123 said:
You know there can be no custom kernels until source code is released. But as for overclocking, many have had success with Tegrak from the market that has allowed overclocking on the GB leaked ROMS.
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Yea, I'm slowly learning all that, I just didn't know at the time. As for Tegrak, I heard it's a major drain on the battery for some reason, but maybe results vary from user to user. Overclocking wasn't a huge concern for me, it was the other two on there that kind of got to me. I'm still happy with 2.2 so that's why I've decided to wait it out

Install acs updater and try them all
Its in the market
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hmm i never tried compkid's regeneration or inception roms. How are they?
as for the topic we are on now, i left acs1.2 the day eg22 came out and yeah al though for some things i would love to go back to acs1.2 but the scale is heavier for me on the gb side.
I used go green, team era's scrambled eggs and tried all the randomrom 2.3 versions (eagle, egret, osprey). The most stable rom for me is randomrom osprey. It is fast enough, great on battery and everything works well with it (other lauchers, apps, etc). As for scrambled eggs, man i loved how snappy that rom was. It was extremely quick upon the click but unfortunately it wasnt working that good with a few launcher and apps and way too many force closes but still fast. Even though i feel scrambled eggs was snappier than osprey, i did receive much higher quadrant scores with osprey (not that quadrant actally matters to me, just for the sake of seeing the scores).
GoGreen was meh for me and i am definitely anticipating an update for scrambled eggs..

I first went with Bamboozle, and it was good. Then one day there are 3 EG22 Roms here it seemed.
So I tried RandomRom and I was having an awful time after 2 days with FC's and reboots.
I then loaded Scrabmled Eggs yesterday and I have been clean (other than google Nav). I am checking battery life now, but I am doing better now than I was with RandomRom. I have to think I was doing something wrong with RandomRom cuz my battery life was terrible and the FC's. I did the same thing each time I installed them, but as said before, each phone is different.
Good luck!

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I first went with Bamboozle, and it was good. Then one day there are 3 EG22 Roms here it seemed.
So I tried RandomRom and I was having an awful time after 2 days with FC's and reboots.
I then loaded Scrabmled Eggs yesterday and I have been clean (other than google Nav). I am checking battery life now, but I am doing better now than I was with RandomRom. I have to think I was doing something wrong with RandomRom cuz my battery life was terrible and the FC's. I did the same thing each time I installed them, but as said before, each phone is different.
Good luck!
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Curious, how did you go about flashing RandomROM? It was the first EG22 rom i tried when it initially came out and all the updates since have worked flawlessly for me.
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I was running the scrambled eg22v4, just installed v7 this morning and so far it seems a little better. Only complaint is my battery seems to be going down a little faster, but it could be cuz I've been messing with loading stuff and resetting everything up. I'll give more feedback when I've had it a few days. ACS Go Green wasn't bad either.

Is ICS really that good?

I don't know :/ Initially everything I read about it suggested that it used some form of hardware acceleration to make phones run much smoother. However, after seeing many speed tests between the Droid Razr and the Galaxy Nexus (both using TI OMAP4 chips, razr has GB and GN uses ICS) the Razr smokes the Nexus in every aspect. And I understand there are many other factors involved that could play into that, but in general it seems people's experiences with ICS point to it being much more bogged down then GB ever was. I don't know, anyone else have thoughts on this :/

Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.

It probably just depends on optimization and other stuffs. Processor doesn't determine everything, although it does help. I personally like the TW ICS and it's pretty smooth to me.

Ics gapps like youtube is one of the big big reasons why I stay and its just something different from gingerbread.
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EpicFlair said:
Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.
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Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/

ICS on my phone is a minimum upgrade that works good for me but when my tab went from Honeycomb to ICS it made a much larger impact. I think ICS brings all the capable devices together and Jellybean will be the one that solidifies Android.
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We all love something new, and we all love eyecandy.
If GB is working fine for you right now, you won't gain much at all moving to ICS.

The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.

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The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.
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So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?

batting1000 said:
So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?
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[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*

MultiLockOn said:
Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/
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Google is on a yearly release schedule for major Android releases. Jelly Bean or whatever it'll be called was planned well before ICS was shown to the public.
And ICS on skinned devices isn't much of an upgrade, especially with the mess that is Touchwiz. This is due to the (correct) belief on Samsung's part that Android is more complicated and "ugly" than the average user wants/expects. Some of their feature enhancements are useful, but the visual is just awful. On its own, Touchwiz isn't worse than vanilla GB, but you can't use Touchwiz on its own. There are always elements of vanilla GB that show and that makes the entire thing an uncoordinated mess.
Android has reached a point where Google can work on refining the OS with small features. More importantly, ICS is the start of a unified and unique theme that can set Android visually apart from iOS and WP7 which look much better than any Android phone shipping with GB.
Of course, none of that matters since OEMs insist on skinning their phones. I had hoped Samsung would've followed HTC and toned down the skinning for the new version of Touchwiz, but that was a pipe dream considering the number of SGSII's they sold. My biggest problem with Touchwiz is that it doesn't mesh with the Holo theme at all which I hope app developers would use, allowing for a more unified Android look.
What I'm trying to say is: No, ICS is not that much of an upgrade from GB. But, ICS is that important to Android and its future.

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[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*
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I actually love ICS especially the last few leaks. Everything seems so fast and efficient to me
Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.

kingdazy said:
now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.
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Yeah Miui with 4g will be huge! He solved it on NS4G and is building a ROM now. After that (or maybe already) other Miui.us guys like TCP should have access to his code or changes to the code
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I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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in its stock form hell yea

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I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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How do you do that?
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Well, I had it switched from the touchwiz launcher to the stock launcher. I don't think that makes a difference though. Manage apps> all> select an app> if it's a stock app instead of the uninstall option, it'll have disable. Beats the greyed out block that's on GB.
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Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Majin101 said:
Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Totally agree with you, and I did the latter because of the battery life and I'm waiting for them to polish out the bugs I found. The title of the thread is asking for peoples opinions and evaluations of ICS. You have to understand that some people are not going to share your point of view.
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[Q] Extended batteries!

Hello hello!
So, I've had my evo for ages, (ages in modern tech terms of phones evolving, not an actually long time by human means) and, long story short, got a new phone, don't have the new phone, back on the evo.
I have the twin turbo GTR ROM and the battery life on my phone sucked. It wasn't the ROM, just letting you know that's what I have if it matters for this question!
So, I decided upon getting an extended battery. (I think 3500 or 4500 mAh, I can check when I get home, the case is fairly stuck on right now) and....I can't figure this thing out. The guide said that the phone will charge to 1,500, say 100%, but not truly be full, so you will need to leave it plugged in.....So I did, and upon unplugging it.....dropped, 99, 98, 97, all within about 10 minutes (normal for the evo, not for this new battery I would assume).
So, how do I make this work? What's the trick? I assume I can actually change the battery....settings(?) in the phone. I remember while in recovery seeing something about resetting the battery settings, and I vaguely remember something about DO NOT TOUCH THAT EVER UNLESS YOU KNOW WHY. Would now be a good time?
TL;DR; New extended battery, tips to get the most use of it? Also, since I am rooted and recoveried, what tricks can I do to make it properly read the new battery and it's larger mAh size.
****If you have a good ROM that you must recommend, or kernal, I am okay with that. I have no love for anything on my phone currently, kernel. rom, recovery, I'll replace it if you guys have good suggestions.
Thank you very much in advance!

First off, you want an SBC kernel on your ROM. Mason G if you have gingerbread, which you do, or Mason I if you're on ICS. Mazwoz's if you choose JB. Flash the appropriate kernel, charge the battery. Leave it on the charger for an extra hour for the hell of it and use it normally and let it drain fully. Recharge to full and it should calibrate. If not, there are plenty of battery calibration apps in the market.
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Awesome thank you! Also, if you or anyone knows, when i was using my evo last, they just started getting ics on it. I remember 4g was broken, and it seems now with the ics and JB roms, it's the same story. Are they planning on finding fix, or is it known that 4g will mst likely only work on GB? Either way I'll reflash my stuff, make sure I have the right stuff, charge, drain, and see how that goes. I would love to use JB simply to see if project butter helps my phone. The only phones I've used it on are at least 2-6x more powerful than my evo, so I can't tell how much project butter is helping, versus the few extra Ghz and cores.
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4G and FFC will likely never work. This device has been losing life at a steady rate. As far as JB, there are some good choices. With the proper set up and tweaking, it can become a daily. Well supported JB ROMs are evervolv, Mazwoz's JB, black bean AOKP, Baked AOKP, RemICS JB, and a couple others. All worth a try.
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4G and FFC will likely never work. This device has been losing life at a steady rate. As far as JB, there are some good choices. With the proper set up and tweaking, it can become a daily. Well supported JB ROMs are evervolv, Mazwoz's JB, black bean AOKP, Baked AOKP, RemICS JB, and a couple others. All worth a try.
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Yeahhhh. That's why I switched to my S2 but long story short, here I am again with my Evo.
Have you used the JB ROMs? Does the project butter make it better than a GB ROM that is tweaked for speed?
I think tomorrow at work I may spend the day trying new ROMs so I may just see for myself, but input would be appreciated! Also, thank you for all the help so far

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Yeahhhh. That's why I switched to my S2 but long story short, here I am again with my Evo.
Have you used the JB ROMs? Does the project butter make it better than a GB ROM that is tweaked for speed?
I think tomorrow at work I may spend the day trying new ROMs so I may just see for myself, but input would be appreciated! Also, thank you for all the help so far
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I've tried most all JB ROMs. I even developed one. They run well but still not as well as original gingerbread. The 2.3.5 kind. Not the CM7 kind. Never really liked it. Personal opinion though. If you want a perfect Gingerbread ROM, check of Decks ReLoaded or some of MBQsniper's work. As for jellybean, try the ones I listed. You'll find something you like, guaranteed.
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I have used all the jb ROMs out there. They are usable if you over look the small things. No FFC, GPS, a few glitches in video. Miui is not good yet. But most all builds before 4.2 are very good and 4.2 will be there before long.
If you want a good sense with all bells and whistles sense 3.5 works. Only glitch is htcfacebook.apk but FFC GPS BT everything works. On 3500 battery 1 get 24 hr heavy use 12 hrs streaming videos. Normal use 4 days and minimal use up to 8 days. Same goes for the sense 1.0 ROMs. For me I have not had much luck with 3.0 sense.
I have flashed almost everything out over the past 2 years I have had an evo.
As far as special tricks for extended battery there recall are none. Just plug it in and use it.
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I have seen a few people ask this question- (will project butter help my phone?) Well project butter isn't actually a thing, it isn't an app or a system, its more of an idea. And the idea is to make the system run as smooth as butter. You can't dig through your system and find Google.projectbutter.apk lol. It is optimizations and implications for ease of use within the new phones coming out, and likely what they implement won't help on our evos because of our aging out of date hardware.
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I have seen a few people ask this question- (will project butter help my phone?) Well project butter isn't actually a thing, it isn't an app or a system, its more of an idea. And the idea is to make the system run as smooth as butter. You can't dig through your system and find Google.projectbutter.apk lol. It is optimizations and implications for ease of use within the new phones coming out, and likely what they implement won't help on our evos because of our aging out of date hardware.
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Are you sure? I know it isn't one thing, but I very clearly remember reading that google did some sneaky tricks to get things running more smoothly, but I felt like it had to do with just basically making the hardware work more effeciently than it currently was.
"How is all of this done you might ask, well Google have used a variety of methods to accomplish it, ranging from something called “vsync timing” (which is making sure there's a consistent frame rate across all screen drawings and animations) and triple buffering, which helps the over frame rates appear a lot better. There's also a nifty system that tries to predict where you’ll go next on your device and help you get there quicker; awesome. Project Butter allows smartphones to take a bit more power from their processors and allows you to step down on accelerate right when it’s needed. "
I read stuff basically like that. I suppose the more correct question would be, will putting a jelly bean OS on my phone make it run smoother than my current GB ROM. I usually understand that the newer ROMs on older phones tend to mean more lag and whatnot, but if the project butter tweaks make it run BETTER than the older ROMs, I may want to use it.
However, I am getting my S2 back tomorrow! That will have JB on it once it's back in my hands, and that thing was silky smooth with ICS so I'm not worried.
As a general question though, have people noticed differences from ICS to JB for speed, responsiveness, and smoothness?

What Rom do you use?

What rom do you use? OR willing to use?
I wonder what roms are needed to keep runing. I hope this poll makes it clean what rom worth our time, what we should concentrate.
Thanks your vote.

LiteROM
but love CM

I used to have official PAC-MAN, more complet and usefull.
But some problems with the UI (fc) force me to change to unnofficial cm10.2 (bubors).

Cm10.1
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Just vote top of the page. Hard to count, when people post instead of vote.

No vote on xda app
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Using CM10.1.3.
For me, stock lacks smoothness and RAM, CM10.2 lacks network traffic indicator (@bubor, why isn't it corrected after so long?), PACman lacks stability and a proper launcher.
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AndyYan said:
Using CM10.1.3.
For me, stock lacks smoothness and RAM, CM10.2 lacks network traffic indicator (@bubor, why isn't it corrected after so long?), PACman lacks stability and a proper launcher.
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Nobody had decent bug report. Hard to fix a feature what I've never used.
Fixed in 20131110, try it, and report back.

It might create a lot of poll options, but perhaps you should ask which ROM people use, and also which ROM they wish/want to use. A single option could be phrased thusly:
Use LiteROM 0.9 / Want PAC-Man 4.3
Which would be my option, will vote from a PC later to cast my vote in the current poll.
I'm suggesting this because I think the majority here would like to use a different ROM, if only 'X' worked, or 'Y' wasn't unstable. Alternatively, the poll could just be about which ROM people want to use. Saves all the possible use/want combinations.
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It might create a lot of poll options, but perhaps you should ask which ROM people use, and also which ROM they wish/want to use. A single option could be phrased thusly:
Use LiteROM 0.9 / Want PAC-Man 4.3
Which would be my option, will vote from a PC later to cast my vote in the current poll.
I'm suggesting this because I think the majority here would like to use a different ROM, if only 'X' worked, or 'Y' wasn't unstable. Alternatively, the poll could just be about which ROM people want to use. Saves all the possible use/want combinations.
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Single vote serves me. We have 4 android 4.3 rom, and many 4.2. Too few people use glide to have that much roms. Users are fragmented. My cm-10.2 topic is full with useless posts. I have to waste time to confirm a bug, what should be done by others.
It's simple I wouldnt maintain a rom what's used less then 20 people.

Used several
So, im currently on my 4th day using [PORT][ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.1.2]LiquidSmooth-JellyBean Glide by Ninthsense. So far I cant complain, i dont use BT or Voip services, so I really dont care so much about those issues, at first I used LiteROM the latest one from the greatergood didnt convince me, as it had several issues; after that I flashed CM 10.1 by Spyke555, it was really good and stable but some toggles came out automatically, for example data and, or GPS, meh... went back to stock ICS rooted, with litekernel, wasnt happy due to my battery life, and ram availability. Also my files on the SD card becamekind of unstable, some images were not shown, music couldnt be played... now Im using liquid smooth JB 4.1. Which so far feels really good. Is there another ROM you could reccomend me to use?

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Single vote serves me. We have 4 android 4.3 rom, and many 4.2. Too few people use glide to have that much roms. Users are fragmented. My cm-10.2 topic is full with useless posts. I have to waste time to confirm a bug, what should be done by others.
It's simple I wouldnt maintain a rom what's used less then 20 people.
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Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.

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Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.
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PAC-man is a feature rich rom, dont expect same speed/battery usage as a clean rom.
Ppl started to post why, but I dont really care.
I can see how much user download my roms, and they are too few to keep continue my work. At the moment I make more room (cm 10.1, cm 10.2 , pacman, omnirom), but I've got only one vote so far. More room then user(s)

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Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.
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Of course JB needs more power than ICS. As the number of features rises, energy consumption rises accordingly, dampened by how optimised each feature is. I don't expect the same battery life from a more feature-rich ROM.
But, I do dislike it when a newer ROM consumes twice the energy, whilst I do not make use of all the new features. However, it is unfair to compare a stable ROM to any other that still suffers (seemingly) random reboots. A reboot, it seems to me, is a short period of high CPU use. The more often a ROM reboots, the more the battery is drained.
Anyway, I just want a stable PAC-man 4.3. I voted for LiteROM, because it is has insane battery-life, more than I need(hence my desire for a more stable 4.3 PAC). I think the votes to this poll will reflect with which ROM people are most satisfied with. And I think their satisfaction is strongly related to how stable it is, which I think is inversely related to how much work there is left to do. Which is related to the work required in maintaining it.
Having said all this, I should mention how grateful I am to all developers. Development is no easy task, and not too often a rewarding one either. Dealing with users that just want stuff and expect it to be done yesterday seems very demotivating to me, so I really appreciate all the work done by the developers here. Including you, bubor!
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Of course JB needs more power than ICS. As the number of features rises, energy consumption rises accordingly, dampened by how optimised each feature is. I don't expect the same battery life from a more feature-rich ROM.
But, I do dislike it when a newer ROM consumes twice the energy, whilst I do not make use of all the new features. However, it is unfair to compare a stable ROM to any other that still suffers (seemingly) random reboots. A reboot, it seems to me, is a short period of high CPU use. The more often a ROM reboots, the more the battery is drained.
Anyway, I just want a stable PAC-man 4.3. I voted for LiteROM, because it is has insane battery-life, more than I need(hence my desire for a more stable 4.3 PAC). I think the votes to this poll will reflect with which ROM people are most satisfied with. And I think their satisfaction is strongly related to how stable it is, which I think is inversely related to how much work there is left to do. Which is related to the work required in maintaining it.
Having said all this, I should mention how grateful I am to all developers. Development is no easy task, and not too often a rewarding one either. Dealing with users that just want stuff and expect it to be done yesterday seems very demotivating to me, so I really appreciate all the work done by the developers here. Including you, bubor!
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Actually newer roms uses less cpu, and roms are faster.
Of corse I want to get official android 4.4 from google to i927 We have too few users, and they are seperate to diffrent roms, what makes much more harder to go forward.
Literom has litkernel, right? Litekernel has many power drain improve, but it costs many issue too ( broken wifi tethering, long wake etc)
Anyway you can use litekernel with newer roms with all its feature.

Did I just catch you contradicting yourself...? You can't say newer ROMs use more CPU (due to being more feature-rich), and then turn around and say newer ROMs use less CPU and are faster. Which is it? I'm thoroughly confused, now... It doesn't really matter, not the point.
Anyway, since you're the developer, I'd say it's your call. Most users here basically want the same: Something post-ICS, as stable as possible, and preferably as close as possible to the latest and greatest.
So, if you decide to focus on that and ditch the rest, I think you'll still have plenty of users willing to test whichever ROM you choose. Of course, people will whine about their ROM not being chosen, but that is unavoidable.
I'll stop now, it's getting way off-topic
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You can't say newer ROMs use more CPU (due to being more feature-rich)
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You really misunderstand me, never said that. MAybe I wasnt clear enought. Dont expect same performance between Feature rich and clean rom, but same services are faster in 4.3.
You shouldnt post like this, its not forward at all. You just troll that topic, what is made to search Interesting. I see, you enjoy troll better then work for solution.
I dont wanna waste you time, I stop here too.

Bubor,I use your cm 10.2 latest and haven't had any problems with it at all!(well one no way to turn on hotword detection on Google now)not a biggie though
I know it would probably be a hard task but hope to see a kitkat rom on our captivate I think it would run great!

please vote if you didnt do yet.

i'm on the offical pacman but i will change soon to cm10.2 or back to literom if i don't have a choice.
but if you want to focus on one or two roms, i think you should focus of cm10.2 and omnirom 4.4, i will flash eiter one as long its stable enugh.