Hi all,
First of all,I would like to thank all xda community for providing such dedicated forum.I love my kindle fire with cm7.So here comes the question,should I try ics roms ? if so,which is the most stable one as of now ? my main concerns are stability and battery consumption.
best regards,
I started a similar thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621073 it may help you out a bit. I've tried many of the ICS ROM's and really like gedeROM. I've used it with Hash's #7 and #8 Kernel and have had 0 issues except what is stated by the dev. gedeROM is having some issues with not taking ADB commands, at least that's what I read. I suppose there is a little bit of risk involved with that. If you find yourself in a jam you may limit your options in finding a solution. Nonetheless many people are still using it and really like it.
Thanks a lot.
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I am running Reloaded CM9 from BiteBlaze and it works almost flawless with the 3.0 #8 kernel. I can get about 2-3 days before charging and that is with moderate to heavy usage.
I just posted this on a similar thread thats going on, im just gonna copy and paste it here as I think it applies.
"It's funny to me how these roms seem to work differently for different people. I mean shouldn't all of these devices be the same? gedeROM works perfect for me, no wifi issues at all, but I couldn't get Energy to run at all no matter what I did.
I think the real answer to your question is that there isn't one best rom, you just have to try them and see which one seems to like your device the best "
Aokp has been very reliable for me so far, and I've been charging normally from a wall charger. Reloaded seemed to eat battery and wouldn't charge whilst switched on. Other than that it was very good.
My pick has to be aokp milestone5 though. Seems very feature-complete (although some people have said that Google earth doesn't work on it), and the battery acts how I expect it to.
I've been using the CM9 ROM that Hashcode has up next to his kernel releases. Once I figured out how to get the android market installed and the amazon market installed, I've been all set. Every app I've installed from either market has worked without issue so far.
The only hiccups app-wise was the Swype installer detects the screen size is too large, but someone pointed me at a solution for that, and Chrome beta is..well, a beta.
I haven't run into the charging issues that people have had, but I'm using either the stock charger or my 3G Kindle cable plugged into a USB3 port. I have a general feeling that most of the charging issues are due to using ****ty cables or lack of understanding that the 3.0 kernel Hashcode is working on doesn't properly report battery/charging just yet.
Video is smoother than the stock Amazon ROM and apps in general feel snappier, even with it clocked to 800Mhz whereas most ROMs seems to run 1GHz by default, I'm underclocking a bit just to see how it'll react.
Overall, I'm 100% happier with Hashcode's CM9 ROM that I ever was with the Kindle Fire at stock. I'm sure I'm missing out on some of the Amazon integration features and content, but Jeff Bezos doesn't hold a monopoly on content, so I can get everything from other places.
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Since a lot of stuff is still wonky/glitchy, and the ICS ports are still not perfect.
Is the point of getting ICS just to say you have it?
Or are there certain advantages to running ICS that I am not aware of?
I am on ILWT btw.
Why run ILWT?
Biggest reason I run it is because the UI to me is THAT much better than GB or anything else I've used. The ROMs are stable enough, fast enough, and include all the features I need to get by day to day.
This sounds more of a troll post, but meh.
I've been running ICS since Andromadus alpha 1, and as a DD since alpha 4. Yes there have been several glitches (alpha 5 was unusable) and several things broken such as the camera, but running an alpha or beta build is what produces the feedback and usage stats the devs need to make a great RC. It also kicks the OEM's in the tail to release drivers and possibly new roms for our devices if the devs AND users can illustrate a need. Aside from that, ICS can renew an aging device with new functionality and refined looks. I've rediscovered my own aging device, and for the first time started to realize its capabilities as a real, almost tablet-like, computing device and not just an alarm clock or a way for telemarketers and my wife to bug me.
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It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
convolution said:
It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
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I must say the ICS Roms are much smoother than any other rom I've ever used and I've had a single hot reboot since first DD worthy release. Battery isn't remarkable but that is cause they haven't been optimized yet, stabilize then optimize. In your case I might wait more for optimized, but hey! Nandroid, wipe, install and try it a bit, you may just fall in love !
That is sound advice, noneabove.
Yes, I do believe the best thing to do at this point is for me to stfu and try it.
ICS ROMS are great. The best reason in my opinion is for developing/ testing purposes. They are smooth and stable.
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i flash every update to test it but its a looong way from me using it.
not as stable, not as funtionable, not as good batterylife and right now, not the same performance.
so i use ILWT for same reasons as you until the ICS roms are atleast as good.
i figure that there are enough people reporting bugs anyway, they dont need me.
atm im using cm7.2 on everyday basis but i do like to test other/newer roms to see if they might got some additional functionality i could need..
like actualy usb host mode what doesnt seem to work on cm7.. ive read it should work from ics on so im happy projects like virtuousrom exist to im able to try
So I've gotten myself a Nexus 7 and the plan for the Kindle is to pass it on to my dad. While I'm okay hacking around on the device, and flashing all sorts of roms, he most definately isn't. So I'm looking for the most stable rom that there is. I want to just set it and forget it. I don't care if it's ICS or GB. I just want to to be rock solid. The least bugs, the longest battery life, the least maintenance. What do you guys think?
Personally, if I were giving a kf to a family member I would take it back to stock. If you want to give him access to the Google Play Store then install Modaco. I think either of those options offer the best battery and are completely trouble free.
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Personally, if I were giving a kf to a family member I would take it back to stock. If you want to give him access to the Google Play Store then install Modaco. I think either of those options offer the best battery and are completely trouble free.
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I really appreciate your input, but I really like open systems, and I also really like community projects, so something based on Cyanogen would be greatly prefered. I will consider Modaco if I can't find anything else that works though.
i would recomend this one. most stable at this moment. and more apps to install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475054
This is the rom I've found to be most stable, also CM7:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508802
I've found that the GedeROM is very stable, has exceptional battery life and has limited OTG support for expandability. Everything works, it's a ICS ROM and it's really fast and smooth.
I highly recommend it.
More features include Beats Audio, Disabled in-app ads, and access to the full store, that is, you can see all apps even if they aren't supported for the fire.
HD videos like YouTube work great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619550
Which do you prefer and why. I Basically want the pro's and con's. I know CM10 is not meant for our phones, heck even CM9 for that matter. So im curious... whats your flavor.
How long have you been using JB (either one) and what's your battery like. Or how did you make it better.
What modem works for you and why.
Let's see some screenshots of your battery.
Its not that its not meant for our phones but not officially supported
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Correct. But it does work better on other phones. But you are correct thanks for correcting me.
I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experienced VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
Edit 1 (AOSP Alpha 5): Bluetooth media has been working since Alpha 4 and it is very stable. With Alpha 5, the screen transition from portrait to landscape (and back) is more responsive as it has been a little slow in the previous builds. This is a very nice build. The battery issue seems to be that the phone does not charge completely but shows 99-100% when disconnecting from the charger. Sbrissen has noted a potential battery fix on Alpha 5. I have not had it long enough to report anything at this point.
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I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experience VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
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That's exactly what I was looking for thank you sir.
Jelly bean running smoothly
I'm running Sbrissens aosp alpha 3 and its smooth sailing with no known issues so far! Also think its a DD for me,battery is not melting my phone like previous builds.
jamesissocool said:
I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experience VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
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I've been waiting for a post like this since Sbrissen released the ROM. Think I shall finally give it a go and see how it runs.
cm10 ftw.
after using cm you'll find it hard to go back to anything else! (unless its aokp)
there is just endless customization options..
cm10 may have more features for me aosp is a lil better far as battery and smoothness i ran both for a lil over a day aosp is the winner
Check out SB's AOSP Alpha 3. All the reviews say it is coming along nicely (almost Beta)
I tried it back when it was private, and it was amazing (other than LOS, which he seemed to have fixed)
So I'm installing it again now.
CM10 vs. AOSP
Well, for me CM does the trick. And when I got the EpTouch and found out it was not supported by CM, I was heartbroken. The Epic Touch is such a wonderful device with its screen, and CPU power; granted there are a number of devices currently better than this phone.
I think CM is a better choice just for how well they support development. I have never had an AOSP ROM before, but I enjoyed being able to boot into recovery from hitting the power button. I even enjoyed playing with a few of the CM settings in the phone.
AOSP is just pure, 100% Android, and is great if that is what you want. But, I still want a little suprises here and there.
Cm is very stable for the epic. They are quite close to official I would say.
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Nice post, guys. I'm gonna flash cm10 now. Haha.:victory:
What is the best way to go to AOSP from EL29 GB? And of get back to GB if needed?
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What is the best way to go to AOSP from EL29 GB? And of get back to GB if needed?
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Use el26 cwm and wipe everything. To go back just use one click.
Well I was running the AOSP build and loved it with the exception that WiFi tether won't work. Can anyone confirm it works on cm10 before I go through the trouble of flashing?
From what I read, Wifi tether is not working on Jellybean right now and have been running CM10 Alpha 4 for over 12 hours now. Let your Rom settle. It takes time to set your accounts back up with syncing and will drain your battery the first cycle. The first battery cycle had 3 hours. I left it off and let it charge over night. I have now had it off the charger for an hour and half and am still at 87%. A huge increase since first cycle. In that same time I have a 1% Time without Cell signal (LOS).... I had this on GB, just b/c I have one tower about 3 miles away that I'm anchored to. If you haven't already I would recommend flashing the new FH13 modem as well.
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From what I read, Wifi tether is not working on Jellybean right now and have been running CM10 Alpha 4 for over 12 hours now. Let your Rom settle. It takes time to set your accounts back up with syncing and will drain your battery the first cycle. The first battery cycle had 3 hours. I left it off and let it charge over night. I have now had it off the charger for an hour and half and am still at 87%. A huge increase since first cycle. In that same time I have a 1% Time without Cell signal (LOS).... I had this on GB, just b/c I have one tower about 3 miles away that I'm anchored to. If you haven't already I would recommend flashing the new FH13 modem as well.
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Well, from what i read from your reply is, I dont know what im talking about , yada yada yada.... If you read a little closer it says wifi tether is not working on the AOSP build. I clearly asked above if someone could verify that it is indeed working on the CM10 build. Is that what you are trying to say? Cause no one here said they are having problems with syncing or other accounts.
Cm10 alpha 4 is running great, I was running el29 modem but I had some issues with Los, after I upgraded to fh13 I have not experienced any more Los. also turning off location services gets better battery in deep sleep.
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CM10 alpha 4 is not working well for me with LOS issues. I keep getting LOS atleast 4-5 times a day needing a reboot... going to try ASOP.
Hello,
G2 owner here, I am considering flashing a new rom onto my not so tech savy friends Desire HD. I'm wondering how good the experience of the JB roms is? On the G2 the roms are unusable but it's certainly not a good experience, lots of random slow downs and lag, plus the camera quality sucks. I'm wondering if that is much the same on the DHD.
Would you flash a JB rom onto your Mum's phone, or would you stick with CM7? Consistent random slow downs / lag plus sub par camera quality isn't acceptable!
Also, if someone has a nice clear guide handy for rooting and installing recovery from 2.3 a link would be appreciated
Thanks!
I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
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I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
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Sorry my bad! I am a G2 owner, but I am looking at flashing a rom onto my friend DHD. -- updated the OP
whilst the jb roms are very stable, i wouldnt recomend them for a complete technaphoab. better safe than sorry.
on the other hand, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968854 this is very good, but synergye(lead dev) is focusing more time on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003273 this.
the sense interface is very basic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839004
and if you want the mind numbing simplicity of ios, try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991558 (i havent tried this one yet though)
as always, read the threads first
Hard to tell, depends what they use... JB ROMs (and ICS) are really stable. No reboots or crashes. Really. There are small minor bugs, but I suppose most of the people wouldn't notice them, since not all people use all functionality. I.e. I wouldn never notice Bluetooth bug since I never use it, etc.
Now, IMHO, the best combination is JT plus KangBang kernel 1.9 stable. It works great, really smooth and fast. I have really a lot of apps and everything works just fine. With KB kernel, at least on my device, I can overclock to more than 1.2Ghz, i.e. 1.5, and it really works well. 4.1.2 is the best Android for me, fastest. I also have Nexus 7 and now that I have 4.2.1 I see how slower it is compared to 4.1.2. But Nexus is so fast that it doesn't matter. On DHD it might, because it is only single core. I tried CFX also and I had lockups and slowdowns. It is also stable, but would just stop responding for me from time to time.
But all in all I would make a backup of your current ROM (stock) and go for JB/KB combo. The only downside for me is battery life, which is worse than stock, but that doesn't happen on all sets (go figure).
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Hello hello!
So, I've had my evo for ages, (ages in modern tech terms of phones evolving, not an actually long time by human means) and, long story short, got a new phone, don't have the new phone, back on the evo.
I have the twin turbo GTR ROM and the battery life on my phone sucked. It wasn't the ROM, just letting you know that's what I have if it matters for this question!
So, I decided upon getting an extended battery. (I think 3500 or 4500 mAh, I can check when I get home, the case is fairly stuck on right now) and....I can't figure this thing out. The guide said that the phone will charge to 1,500, say 100%, but not truly be full, so you will need to leave it plugged in.....So I did, and upon unplugging it.....dropped, 99, 98, 97, all within about 10 minutes (normal for the evo, not for this new battery I would assume).
So, how do I make this work? What's the trick? I assume I can actually change the battery....settings(?) in the phone. I remember while in recovery seeing something about resetting the battery settings, and I vaguely remember something about DO NOT TOUCH THAT EVER UNLESS YOU KNOW WHY. Would now be a good time?
TL;DR; New extended battery, tips to get the most use of it? Also, since I am rooted and recoveried, what tricks can I do to make it properly read the new battery and it's larger mAh size.
****If you have a good ROM that you must recommend, or kernal, I am okay with that. I have no love for anything on my phone currently, kernel. rom, recovery, I'll replace it if you guys have good suggestions.
Thank you very much in advance!
First off, you want an SBC kernel on your ROM. Mason G if you have gingerbread, which you do, or Mason I if you're on ICS. Mazwoz's if you choose JB. Flash the appropriate kernel, charge the battery. Leave it on the charger for an extra hour for the hell of it and use it normally and let it drain fully. Recharge to full and it should calibrate. If not, there are plenty of battery calibration apps in the market.
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Awesome thank you! Also, if you or anyone knows, when i was using my evo last, they just started getting ics on it. I remember 4g was broken, and it seems now with the ics and JB roms, it's the same story. Are they planning on finding fix, or is it known that 4g will mst likely only work on GB? Either way I'll reflash my stuff, make sure I have the right stuff, charge, drain, and see how that goes. I would love to use JB simply to see if project butter helps my phone. The only phones I've used it on are at least 2-6x more powerful than my evo, so I can't tell how much project butter is helping, versus the few extra Ghz and cores.
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4G and FFC will likely never work. This device has been losing life at a steady rate. As far as JB, there are some good choices. With the proper set up and tweaking, it can become a daily. Well supported JB ROMs are evervolv, Mazwoz's JB, black bean AOKP, Baked AOKP, RemICS JB, and a couple others. All worth a try.
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4G and FFC will likely never work. This device has been losing life at a steady rate. As far as JB, there are some good choices. With the proper set up and tweaking, it can become a daily. Well supported JB ROMs are evervolv, Mazwoz's JB, black bean AOKP, Baked AOKP, RemICS JB, and a couple others. All worth a try.
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Yeahhhh. That's why I switched to my S2 but long story short, here I am again with my Evo.
Have you used the JB ROMs? Does the project butter make it better than a GB ROM that is tweaked for speed?
I think tomorrow at work I may spend the day trying new ROMs so I may just see for myself, but input would be appreciated! Also, thank you for all the help so far
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Yeahhhh. That's why I switched to my S2 but long story short, here I am again with my Evo.
Have you used the JB ROMs? Does the project butter make it better than a GB ROM that is tweaked for speed?
I think tomorrow at work I may spend the day trying new ROMs so I may just see for myself, but input would be appreciated! Also, thank you for all the help so far
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I've tried most all JB ROMs. I even developed one. They run well but still not as well as original gingerbread. The 2.3.5 kind. Not the CM7 kind. Never really liked it. Personal opinion though. If you want a perfect Gingerbread ROM, check of Decks ReLoaded or some of MBQsniper's work. As for jellybean, try the ones I listed. You'll find something you like, guaranteed.
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I have used all the jb ROMs out there. They are usable if you over look the small things. No FFC, GPS, a few glitches in video. Miui is not good yet. But most all builds before 4.2 are very good and 4.2 will be there before long.
If you want a good sense with all bells and whistles sense 3.5 works. Only glitch is htcfacebook.apk but FFC GPS BT everything works. On 3500 battery 1 get 24 hr heavy use 12 hrs streaming videos. Normal use 4 days and minimal use up to 8 days. Same goes for the sense 1.0 ROMs. For me I have not had much luck with 3.0 sense.
I have flashed almost everything out over the past 2 years I have had an evo.
As far as special tricks for extended battery there recall are none. Just plug it in and use it.
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I have seen a few people ask this question- (will project butter help my phone?) Well project butter isn't actually a thing, it isn't an app or a system, its more of an idea. And the idea is to make the system run as smooth as butter. You can't dig through your system and find Google.projectbutter.apk lol. It is optimizations and implications for ease of use within the new phones coming out, and likely what they implement won't help on our evos because of our aging out of date hardware.
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I have seen a few people ask this question- (will project butter help my phone?) Well project butter isn't actually a thing, it isn't an app or a system, its more of an idea. And the idea is to make the system run as smooth as butter. You can't dig through your system and find Google.projectbutter.apk lol. It is optimizations and implications for ease of use within the new phones coming out, and likely what they implement won't help on our evos because of our aging out of date hardware.
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Are you sure? I know it isn't one thing, but I very clearly remember reading that google did some sneaky tricks to get things running more smoothly, but I felt like it had to do with just basically making the hardware work more effeciently than it currently was.
"How is all of this done you might ask, well Google have used a variety of methods to accomplish it, ranging from something called “vsync timing” (which is making sure there's a consistent frame rate across all screen drawings and animations) and triple buffering, which helps the over frame rates appear a lot better. There's also a nifty system that tries to predict where you’ll go next on your device and help you get there quicker; awesome. Project Butter allows smartphones to take a bit more power from their processors and allows you to step down on accelerate right when it’s needed. "
I read stuff basically like that. I suppose the more correct question would be, will putting a jelly bean OS on my phone make it run smoother than my current GB ROM. I usually understand that the newer ROMs on older phones tend to mean more lag and whatnot, but if the project butter tweaks make it run BETTER than the older ROMs, I may want to use it.
However, I am getting my S2 back tomorrow! That will have JB on it once it's back in my hands, and that thing was silky smooth with ICS so I'm not worried.
As a general question though, have people noticed differences from ICS to JB for speed, responsiveness, and smoothness?