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OK,
1st Hi all and thanks for not bashing my lack of knowledge. I have done many searches and am now more confused than before.
I am comming from a droid X, I did the z4 root on it to get wifi tether working, it was on 2.2.1 I believe. Well it went very good, but I never got a push for an update. Got the new GN on verizon and tried to restore it back to stock, didn't work, so instead of selling it I gave it to my mom. Also, did this on a friends and he did get the update push and lost the root and superuser access.
This story is just so you know I am a complete noob. Other than following someones set by set on using Z4 I have really not done anything and have some questions on my new phone.
1. why would I want to unlock the bootloader?
2. after reading about the wifi hotspot by svtp do I need to root?
3. If i root and/or unlock the bootloader will this stop the updates from google (main reason I bought the phone)?
4. I am not into overclocking or modding but I want to be able to have wifi if I ever need it. That is the only thing I want.
Basically I am looking to unlock the wifi and still get all the google updates, is this possible? As of right now I think buying the svtp app is my best bet, I just don't want an unexpected bill showing up.

ok, still not rooted or unlocked. cannot get svtp to work wifi

Follow this guide --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382163

re #1: you need to unlock the bootloader to do pretty much anything non standard with your phone.
Since unlocking the bootloader wipes all data on the phone it's a good idea to do it early. You can leave it otherwise stock while you think about it, you can even relock it if you need to return the phone for some reason.
Neither unlocking nor rooting the phone will stop you getting the OTAs, it's custom roms that will do that. However most OTAs will stop your root access because they reset the permissions on your su files.
hth

Clancy_s said:
Neither unlocking nor rooting the phone will stop you getting the OTAs, it's custom roms that will do that. However most OTAs will stop your root access because they reset the permissions on your su files.
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Just to add further to this... not only will custom ROMs stop you from getting OTA updates, having custom recovery (ClockworkMod) will prevent them from applying, even with the stock ROM. If using a stock ROM with custom recovery, you'll need to do the update manually. If you wait until you get the update notification, your phone should have downloaded the update to /cache. You can then use the custom recovery to apply the update. Alternatively, you can look on these forums for someone to post the URL to the OTA update zip file, download it, and flash it manually (this way you don't need to wait until your phone gets the update, you can download it and have it sooner).
In either case, you'll usually need to re-root, as stated. This is easier with a custom recovery, because you should just have to flash superuser immediately after flashing the update, before rebooting.
Until CM9 is stable, I'm running the stock ROM with ClockworkMod recovery. I can download the OTA updates manually and flash them with ClockworkMod then flash superuser and I'm good to go. Custom recovery makes it nice and easy to retain root, as well as the ability to do nandroid backups, etc.

[Q] Locally rooting my Sprint SG2

n00b I am, as I tried asking this in the wrong forum earlier today... Anyway, here goes my question again, hopefully in the right forum this time:
I've got a Sprint Galaxy S2 and I'd like to get root access to modify a few files. The thing is, I don't want to bring out the big guns and root it and put a bunch of extras on it (all these one click rooting programs always come with something more than just root access). All I want to do is get root access to my phone for a few minutes so I can modify a few system files. After that, I don't need root access, and would even prefer not to have it. I tried zergRush, but it doesn't seam to work for Android 2.3.6 (it told me there were "Hellions with BLUE flames!" ).
I've searched and can't find anything out there that'll grant me root access to my phone without also installing various ROMs/programs/kernels that I don't want. I want everything to be the same on my phone when I'm done except for a system text file or two that I modify. Is there anything like zergRush that works for Android 2.3.6?
(P.S. I'm a programmer by trade so you can speak tech if you like)

EL29 isn't directly rootable. I suggest you use one of the pre-rooted ODIN One-Clicks in my signature. Everything I put out is the minimum for root and nothing additional added.
If you want root removed, use Option B of the Auto Root sticky. It will 100% remove any trace of root and you will be left with 100% stock.

sfhub said:
EL29 isn't directly rootable. I suggest you use one of the pre-rooted ODIN One-Clicks in my signature. Everything I put out is the minimum for root and nothing additional added.
If you want root removed, use Option B of the Auto Root sticky. It will 100% remove any trace of root and you will be left with 100% stock.
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agreed sfhub has the best root program for this phone. and it is just as easy to unroot when you are done. definitely go with the in click from sfhub.

Help Rooting

Ok, I have tried to follow a couple of root guides here in the forums, this one, both on Mac and Win7 (via Bootcamp). I get the device rooted but the, almost immediately, I get Android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly after the newest OTA. The error comes almost directly after the last update {Build number: IMM76D.I747UCALH9}.
I am interested in root to be able to install Google Now over S-Voice, Google Wallet over Isis and I would like to de-bloat the ROM. If I can also get CWM on there for occasional ROM backups that would be cool too. But I also want the newest update as it contains the one thing I really longed for in the stock TouchWiz ROM... Screen brightness from the Notifications menu.
Can anyone offer a point in the right direction for me?? I have rooted a Nexus before, but I tell ya, Non Nexus devices are a different ball game HAHA.

There are a number of ways to root this phone, and I don't know which one to recommend that would be easiest for you. However, you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing. It's guaranteed to kill your root, if not your phone as well. You either have to root the phone and then flash a rooted stock ROM with the latest OTA update, or update your (unrooted) phone to the latest OTA update, and then root it.

shortydoggg said:
There are a number of ways to root this phone, and I don't know which one to recommend that would be easiest for you. However, you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing. It's guaranteed to kill your root, if not your phone as well. You either have to root the phone and then flash a rooted stock ROM with the latest OTA update, or update your (unrooted) phone to the latest OTA update, and then root it.
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Or, root, use Voodoo Root Keeper to back up root, do ota, then use Root Keeper to restore root. But, not sure if that works 100% on LH9 (haven't tried it myself, so I'm not completely,100% going to say it works). It does work on lg1, as i did that myself.

mrhaley30705 said:
Or, root, use Voodoo Root Keeper to back up root, do ota, then use Root Keeper to restore root. But, not sure if that works 100% on LH9 (haven't tried it myself, so I'm not completely,100% going to say it works). It does work on lg1, as i did that myself.
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I can confirm it works on lh9, i am running it now and used voodoo to restore root.

shortydoggg said:
...you never root, then take an OTA update, which appears to be what you are doing.
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I'm pretty sure I updated the stock unrooted rom before deciding to rooting, like I'm sure it was a good 24-48 hrs before I decided to root. Anyway, I guess I'll go back to the drawing board and do some research.
Thanks for post though!

[Q] Used Odin3 to root, cant open SuperSU want to go back safely to dry again

Hi,
This is a great site.
I am doing this cause I deleted some photos by accident and want to use one single program that needs the phone to be rooted. Because there is no mass storage connectivity you know how it goes.
I used Odin3 to install "CF-Auto-Root-t03g-t03gxx-gtn7100.tar.md5" to my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 with Android 4.3.
Odin says "PASS!". When I try to start the SuperSU (version 2.01, was installed by Odin and CANT BE UPDATED in the play store, not even removed only opened form play store. This was the most common fix that people are giving to this situation, but it does not work for me because there is no update possibility) Because KNOX says unauthorized attempt to access not accessible areas. SuperSU does not prompt the possibility to terminate KNOX like some people are advising to do, even tough the 2.01 version of SuperSU should be able to do this. Even the RootChecker says that my phone is not rooted.
So my assumption is that the Root has not worked on my phone even tough Odin says so. So I want to try some other approach to root this phone. I just would like to know should I do some check for what Odin HAS changed in my phone and to try to change them back so I can for example try Kingos root safely.
So the questions are:
Does some one have a possible fix to my problem without me having to re root?
How can and what should I check before trying another root?
If I have to go back with stuff that Odin did, without it doing the root properly how can I do that?
And one a bit different question:
If I factory reset my phone it will install the 4.1 I thin on it, has no KNOX, will it write that on the part that is empty and might include that data of my deleted pictures or does it write it on the area that has the previous data of the Android system?
Thanks for advance if there is any advises.
Partial answer:
I followed basicly this instruction,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991
just needed to find the correct TWRP for my phone and used the older 1.65 SuperSU, there is something wrong with the 2.01 and it compatibility with my phone.
This video also helped cause the information was similar to the one in the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQAkLgXjnCo
Installed the DiskDigger and got most of the photos, so now I need to find out how to convert it from root version to version so I can upgrade my phone.
Everything is really easy with Odin. If the packet that I installed with it first that does't istall the custom recovery system would have had some other KNOX combatible version of SuperSU I think it would have worked. No I just needed to use the KNOX remover to remove it from my phone.
Thanks for the form all the answers where her and it just took me some time.

To root or not to root?

So I got my phone today and rooted it directly. When I was browsing through the apps, I saw it has an update but it didn't let me install it because the phone was rooted. So, I had to go back to stock rom with a kdz file wiping everything, which seems to be the latest rom right now. I'm thinking about if i should root or not right now. Will I have to wipe everything again when the phone gets another update? Are you all in this situation or do i not know something correctly?

Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.

If you want to use apps like g3 tweaksbox, titanium backup etc, you will need root! I think you can do so much more when your Phone is rooted, so i would root it immediately!

homer285 said:
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
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I also took an OTA for my F460S while rooted and it worked. My phone also is fine (it didn't die, crash or kill itself). When I get my next OTA I'll upload a video to show that it does work for some odd reason (only for a few people that I have seen). The benefits of rooting outweigh the drawbacks. If you root your phone, than you should be comfortable flashing a KDZ to restore it.

OTA updates often modify existing pre-installed apps, otherwise known as bloatware, so they check to be sure those targets are present and unmodified. If you have rooted but not deleted or removed or frozen any such apps, your system will pass that OTA test.
Some OTA's also look for su being installed, and hiding su can fool that, depending...
Sometimes the OTA is just mean altogether, for your protection.
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