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hi everyone
I'm thinking about getting a sim free desire as a up grade for my hero (my real upgrade doesn't happen until june :-(, and my hero showing its age) and also the I can afford to buy one.
I have a few questions;
one of my pet annoys with my hero is scrolling through my texts messages is very very very very very laggy in the default app, has this been improved with the froyo update??
is scrolling through albums again not lagging??
does the stock htc keyboard have proper multitouch??
(an opinion question here)
do you believe htc will bring the new sense to the desire ??
will htc carry on pushing out future android updates to the desire??
htc desire is fast and nothing lags. htc should be pushing future updates to the desire. it's already said in a few posts that new sense will come to desire -- not confirmed though.
its a good phone but the screen visibility is absolutely pathetic when you're out in the sunlight!
the Desire has a very well made exterior casing with fine metal finishing
the Desire 5MP camera gets you excellent results provided you tweak the HTC camera settings
as for the main processor and RAM its as fast as anything else on the market, the gallery is extremely fast as well as 720p video playback, messages scrolling is fast too but not perfect, video recording is at 25fps 800x480 in good lighting, 20fps 720p recoding in good lighting in darker lighting video recording frame rate will drop
the Desire is only a little outdated in one area which is the graphics processor gives slightly less smooth experience in heavy 3d games, 2D games runs perfect
as for the screen, SLCD edition is better than Amoled, better cleaner pixel density and more brightness it also performs better outdoors (engadget review was wrong about that) as far as i can tell its scratch resistant provided you are careful of it too (first time i don't use a screen protector but i keep it in a pouch)
one final thing if you are brave enough to root your device, you will extract much more from your desire, with the stock froyo update, you can get better performance, better battery, better loudness, better SD card speed and solve the internal storage issue if you root your device
HTC keyboard is awesome, further future updates are a mystery at this moment
check my signature i bought 2 already
Once again I am a victim of biased reviews which compare an HDR picture taken outdoors with the iPhone 4s not so well HDR function .
But since I get photos very often of my 4 year daughter with various phones which include iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s I can easy compare them with one x .
The photos of one x even with sunshine light have lots of noise and you can notice this even more when you sync them with your pc .
So once again (I did the same last year with Samsung galaxy s2) I have to use the iPhone 4s for my personal moments and keep the one x for work up.
Or better like I did last year sell it to eBay .
Don't get me wrong , I like the one x a lot but it seems that apple puts lots of effort on things other vendors neglect .
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Only one review states the truth and this is from the androidcentral
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x-second-opinion
The One X’s 8MP BSI camera is a solid performer, but it doesn’t quite dethrone Sony’s Xperia S, with its ludicrous 12MP EXMOR R sensor. HTC has made strides forward with its camera software, though, which makes taking pictures on the One X quick, easy and painless. Stills are captured almost instantaneously, and the continuous capture mode makes shooting multiple images in quick succession a breeze. Photos taken on the One X look good from a distance, though up-close you’ll see some graininess and artefacting, even in perfectly-lit shots. For better or worse, it’s clear that there’s some pretty aggressive post-processing and noise reduction going on
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I thought they were quite similar at first glance but perhaps at closer inspection the iPhone is better....it wouldnt suprise me as Android devices seem to play catch up in terms of hardware...perhaps if iOS wasn't so boring and iTunes didn't disgust me I would have considered purchasing one.
Still happy with the camera, especially compared to my old Desire and holds it own against most others....neither the One X or iPhone could replace our Panasonic compact imo.
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Admitted the One X are doing far more better then other 8mgpx phone on capture more lights into the photo. But it turn out to be more noise on the photo. Yes it did a great job on Low Light or No Light condition.
But Sharpness is disappointing me. Even my old DHD have better sharpness but low light. I wish I could merge both of them.
*I believe is the new ISO feature which cause this noise issue. (correct me on this)
From my personal experience with both iPhone & 1X I'll tell you that iPhone pictures look amazing ON the iPhone screen. On my computer, TV, or any other mobile, they are horrible - very grainy and over processed!!
In the same lighting conditions, I cannot even compare the 1X's photos against the iPhone's...its just not fair. I'll attach example photos shortly.
I made that comparison when I got my One X. This was my result:
http://i.imgur.com/EXoWD.jpg
So yes, the iPhone 4S is sharper and has better optics than the One X.
Spybreak said:
I made that comparison when I got my One X. This was my result:
http://i.imgur.com/EXoWD.jpg
So yes, the iPhone 4S is sharper and has better optics than the One X.
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Could you compare equal distances? It seems like the iPhone is shooting the building on the side which is much closer than the building the One X is shooting.
Spybreak said:
I made that comparison when I got my One X. This was my result:
http://i.imgur.com/EXoWD.jpg
So yes, the iPhone 4S is sharper and has better optics than the One X.
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Can you go into your camera settings on the 1X and ensure it is set to 4:3 aspect ratio and do it again?
Does this happen with a third party camera app also?
The quality difference between the one s and one x are huge. Take a look at the android central one s review for proof (I can't post links).
Any idea why?
It could be that they use two different sensor modules (which have identical specs)
No real way to tell without doing teardowns of both phones.
Perhaps it's a software issue doue to tegra3 drivers and such...? I reckon it will be better once the updates start flowing
reviews say it's the other way around...X photos are better than S
My mate in work has the s, i was doing a comparison yesterday, look much the same to me.
There is actually a YouTube x one vs sensation xe camera and the one x is way too low for quality ,after watching the video I gave xe a 10 ,the one x a 2 ,yes its that bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdOzSKs9lO8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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zerozoneice said:
reviews say it's the other way around...X photos are better than S
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It's probably difficult to say because we were not there where the picture was taken so we don't know which one was closer to reality.
But the S one does appear nicer, while the X one is like washed out. But this could be simply due to different exposure. Downloading both and adjusting exposure in Photoshop so the pictures would match would allow for better comparison.
Or maybe S comes with newer software that doesn't do as much postprocessing as X does. I guess camera mod will fix that for us.
I don't have an issue with the One X's photos, aside from the fact they're brutally over-sharpened.
i get an odd yellow tinge when i click photos on my htc on x..is anyone exp the same prob? im wondering if its a defect and should i get it changed..
also the yellowness seems to reduce considerably when the sharpness is reduced..
help someone..i recently bought the htc one x..thank you
drsaadk said:
i get an odd yellow tinge when i click photos on my htc on x..is anyone exp the same prob? im wondering if its a defect and should i get it changed..
also the yellowness seems to reduce considerably when the sharpness is reduced..
help someone..i recently bought the htc one x..thank you
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I found that reducing the saturation by one level solved it completely. The default camera settings are terrible. The yellow problem seems to kick in when there is low light - I found outdoor shots in full sun didn't have the yellow problem (so far - only had the phone about 4 hours!).
If a buy htc one x is there a possibility in the future with a custom rom the camera match the quality of galaxy s3 both in video (higher bit rate and fps) and pictures (not so much noise)?
I love the build quality of one x and the amazing display but i am more close to buying a galaxy s3 at the moment because of the better camera so it's important for me if a developer answer honestly my question above.
thank you in advance
alex1986cy said:
If a buy htc one x is there a possibility in the future with a custom rom the camera match the quality of galaxy s3 both in video (higher bit rate and fps) and pictures (not so much noise)?
I love the build quality of one x and the amazing display but i am more close to buying a galaxy s3 at the moment because of the better camera so it's important for me if a developer answer honestly my question above.
thank you in advance
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LdAFj8iPGs
htc has a better camera for photos definitely but i'ld say that the first video s3 won (guy brushing though fence)and second htc one won (road with guy on bike) over all s3 does videos better until some works out a mod for the one x.
You'r a bit off
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I don't understand what you mean, Galaxy SIII doesn't have any pros in case of Camera
The camera quality in One X is much better, taking better and faster pictures (Thanks to dedicated processor for camera) and has the ability to take 1080p 30fps video, which is exactly what SGS3 can do And also with it's 2.0f optic, it takes much better pictures in low light (which is what people have in they're normal life :| )
In fact when it comes to Camera, The HTC One X has the higher hand...
srashedian said:
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I don't understand what you mean, Galaxy SIII doesn't have any pros in case of Camera
The camera quality in One X is much better, taking better and faster pictures (Thanks to dedicated processor for camera) and has the ability to take 1080p 30fps video, which is exactly what SGS3 can do And also with it's 2.0f optic, it takes much better pictures in low light (which is what people have in they're normal life :| )
In fact when it comes to Camera, The HTC One X has the higher hand...
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i have to agree with you that htc one x is better in low light but i saw a lot of videos in youtube from both phones and i belive galaxy s3 has by far a better video at the moment. As for picture quality from a lot of samples a saw i believe the one x takes very good shots but with a lot of noise compared to the galaxy s3
Auto mode for the one x camera is not the best mode.Try HDR mode,the photos you take will look awesome,it's sharper and more beautiful.Definitely better than S3 in my opinion.
I have the HOX since 3 days ago and i must say that pictures in low light are much worse and blurry compared to the ones i took with my previous Galaxy S2. It's something I'm doing wrong ? Thanks in advance
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alex1986cy said:
i have to agree with you that htc one x is better in low light but i saw a lot of videos in youtube from both phones and i belive galaxy s3 has by far a better video at the moment. As for picture quality from a lot of samples a saw i believe the one x takes very good shots but with a lot of noise compared to the galaxy s3
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Video brightness and saturation, which are software related, Yes, SGS3 is a bit better (Resolution and frame rate is the same though, 1080p 30fps)
And you're right, you get more noise in One X, that's because of the weird ISO configuration and I don't know why it's like that, You should take it out of auto and play with the options manually, gets a lot better, or use HDR if you're a noob in photography)
florio1960 said:
I have the HOX since 3 days ago and i must say that pictures in low light are much worse and blurry compared to the ones i took with my previous Galaxy S2. It's something I'm doing wrong ? Thanks in advance
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Try HDR mode.
Thanks Xventure, I'm gonna give it a try !
florio1960 said:
I have the HOX since 3 days ago and i must say that pictures in low light are much worse and blurry compared to the ones i took with my previous Galaxy S2. It's something I'm doing wrong ? Thanks in advance
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For being f/2.0, it really doesn't take that great of dark shots in my opinion.
I think a lot of the HOX issues are due to compression on pictures and video though. I saw a thread talking about using other apps for less compression, but results seemed mixed.
AJerman said:
For being f/2.0, it really doesn't take that great of dark shots in my opinion.
I think a lot of the HOX issues are due to compression on pictures and video though. I saw a thread talking about using other apps for less compression, but results seemed mixed.
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The compression in pictures doesn't do much, icscamera has 4 mb files stock about 2 and stock is still better and the compression on videos is just audio, its the fps drops that need to be sorted really.
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Coming from M7 I know it's camera limitations and one thing I was expecting that shifting away from Ultra Pixel sensor would mean a much better performance. Unfortunately looking at the images from Barcelona I was scratching my head if what I saw was M9 images. The lower light photos in my opinion look quite bad. Lots of artifact, nasty noise, blotches of unprocessed information. So to say about normal daylight images though not as bad but still below average. So what's your take on this matter? Will the software update sort it out , is it worth waiting for couple of months? I don't think I am going to upgrade to M9 which I sincerely want to. Camera is deal breaker for me.
I honestly wouldn't base an opinion of this device with its current software situation, its gonna get hot, this is a pre release model. Also I bet its been on charge all day with the screen on, tester after tester messing with it. Not to mention the kernel and rom probably aren't optimized to deal with heavy load, I can see HTC making this a great device with further updates, I look forward to having it.
nebulaoperator said:
Coming from M7 I know it's camera limitations and one thing I was expecting that shifting away from Ultra Pixel sensor would mean a much better performance. Unfortunately looking at the images from Barcelona I was scratching my head if what I saw was M9 images. The lower light photos in my opinion look quite bad. Lots of artifact, nasty noise, blotches of unprocessed information. So to say about normal daylight images though not as bad but still below average. So what's your take on this matter? Will the software update sort it out , is it worth waiting for couple of months? I don't think I am going to upgrade to M9 which I sincerely want to. Camera is deal breaker for me.
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You're not the only one making a question out of the camera performance of the M9. The big issues with the new sensor is the increased resolution of 20mp vs the 4mp on the HTC One M8, which (as you noticed) makes images in low-light conditions quite bad. This has nothing to do with HTC though, it's the same story for everyone who cramps in such a high resolution in a sensor that is way to small. A normal DSLR camera (Canon 600D, Nikon D7100 etc.) struggles with the same thing although they got a massively bigger sensor to cope with the resolution. Based on this, I guess they may be able to fix the daylight quality quite a bit along the way. The low-light however, not as convinced due to the issues I said above. They may very well be able to make it BETTER, but not as good as it was with the M8 in my mind. Just look at the Note 4 and Z3 (and Z4 I guess) with massive resolutions on their cameras aswell, the Note 4 (16mp) is brilliant in daylight although it's worse in low-light compared to the iPhone 6 (which got a 8mp sensor). It will get better along the way, but I don't think we will ever see the M9 do low-light shots without some of the issues you asked about, like artifacts, noise and details failing to stand out. Although I do hope I am wrong about it
I hope Jonny too but I can't entirely rely on hope here. Can you give me reasonable example of how HTC improved camera in the past? I am not here to bash the brand that I love but I want to be reasonable. I still have purple fringe on my M7 for that reason I sent it back just a couple of days ago.
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You're not the only one making a question out of the camera performance of the M9. The big issues with the new sensor is the increased resolution of 20mp vs the 4mp on the HTC One M8, which (as you noticed) makes images in low-light conditions quite bad. This has nothing to do with HTC though, it's the same story for everyone who cramps in such a high resolution in a sensor that is way to small. A normal DSLR camera (Canon 600D, Nikon D7100 etc.) struggles with the same thing although they got a massively bigger sensor to cope with the resolution. Based on this, I guess they may be able to fix the daylight quality quite a bit along the way. The low-light however, not as convinced due to the issues I said above. They may very well be able to make it BETTER, but not as good as it was with the M8 in my mind. Just look at the Note 4 and Z3 (and Z4 I guess) with massive resolutions on their cameras aswell, the Note 4 (16mp) is brilliant in daylight although it's worse in low-light compared to the iPhone 6 (which got a 8mp sensor). It will get better along the way, but I don't think we will ever see the M9 do low-light shots without some of the issues you asked about, like artifacts, noise and details failing to stand out. Although I do hope I am wrong about it
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As far as I know M9 has Toshiba sensor which being used for the Nokia High end Lumias which perform quite well. The other thing is I can set my camera permanently to 16 Mp or even less so to relief sensor from strain if that helps to get a better image. It's perfectly fine to have 8MP, personally speaking. For instance Iphone 6 Plus currently outperforms pretty much most of the phones in the market.
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As far as I know M9 has Toshiba sensor which being used for the Nokia High end Lumias which perform quite well. The other thing is I can set my camera permanently to 16 Mp or even less so to relief sensor from strain if that helps to get a better image. It's perfectly fine to have 8MP, personally speaking. For instance Iphone 6 Plus currently outperforms pretty much most of the phones in the market.
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Sure it is developed by Toshiba, i am not sure if its the same they use in the Lumia series though. The fact that "reducing" the camera down to 16mp or even less to make the images better is something I doubt highly especially with a mobile. I dont see how that would change the outcome when it's still a 20mp physically in there. Might be wrong here, but I don't see right away how that would make images in low-light any better. In my experience with the Z1 it didn't help much dumping the resolution from 20mp down to 8mp (which was the auto-mode setting). Another thing I see as a potential issue for HTC compared to Sony is the fact that Sony makes and develops their sensor themself, and that should make it easier for them to optimize it and make it better. HTC on the other hand does not make it's own sensor and has "learn" or whatever I should say the Toshiba sensor compared to Sony who made them by themself. That should, at least in my eyes, give Sony an advantage in the optimization part. Which they never figured out properly in the Z1 (and Z2 & Z3?) as far as I know.
Let me look in the future..
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It's getting warmed....
Okay I am seeing something...
The answer for which you are looking for lies within you. You may not know it now but you will in the near future. The key is to follow your heart and don't make weird threads on xda.
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I am looking forward to the M9 as i currently own a M7. To the point, after M7 came out nokia came out with Lumia 925, which had 8MP sensor and took better low light photos than the UltraPixel, One would think that in the last 2 years Htc would have gotten better or improved the MP count of the UltraPixel sensor, but that didn't happen.
As far as the current 16MP sensor is concerned, i hope that reducing the resolution slightly say 8MP and increasing the exposure/shutter time would atleast be able to provide results similar to UltraPixle in a 8MP resolution.
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Sure it is developed by Toshiba, i am not sure if its the same they use in the Lumia series though. The fact that "reducing" the camera down to 16mp or even less to make the images better is something I doubt highly especially with a mobile. I dont see how that would change the outcome when it's still a 20mp physically in there. Might be wrong here, but I don't see right away how that would make images in low-light any better. In my experience with the Z1 it didn't help much dumping the resolution from 20mp down to 8mp (which was the auto-mode setting). Another thing I see as a potential issue for HTC compared to Sony is the fact that Sony makes and develops their sensor themself, and that should make it easier for them to optimize it and make it better. HTC on the other hand does not make it's own sensor and has "learn" or whatever I should say the Toshiba sensor compared to Sony who made them by themself. That should, at least in my eyes, give Sony an advantage in the optimization part. Which they never figured out properly in the Z1 (and Z2 & Z3?) as far as I know.
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I am looking at some oversampling info on wikipedia. Thats exactly what Nokia did with pure view ,for instance, combining pixels into cluster to make one better pixel with improved characteristics . Then technically speaking reducing mp size can enable sensor to perform better. Thanks for bringing it out about Sony. Your thoughts so much parallel of mine about they inability to nail their camera performance taking into account they sensor plus all experience. This could due to the reason they don't actually work close enough to Sony photographic department and more or less on they own. Not sharing the love between themselve From my observation it's a lot about soft optimization, as you mention in your post , and here I can not to finish my post without mentioning 1+1 camera transformation that occurred in period from release date up until now. Camera performance is very good.
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I am looking forward to the M9 as i currently own a M7. To the point, after M7 came out nokia came out with Lumia 925, which had 8MP sensor and took better low light photos than the UltraPixel, One would think that in the last 2 years Htc would have gotten better or improved the MP count of the UltraPixel sensor, but that didn't happen.
As far as the current 16MP sensor is concerned, i hope that reducing the resolution slightly say 8MP and increasing the exposure/shutter time would atleast be able to provide results similar to UltraPixle in a 8MP resolution.
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If they do something like Nokia did with oversampling pixel it might work ( just an idea) but taking into account they didn't succeed in ultra pixel technology , given two years, I can only hope. I don't really know much about new toshiba sensor and what is it capable of.
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Let me look in the future..
*starts rubbing my Crystal balls...*
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It's getting warmed....
Okay I am seeing something...
The answer for which you are looking for lies within you. You may not know it now but you will in the near future. The key is to follow your heart and don't make weird threads on xda.
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"Weird "is a strong word but taking into account the amount of humour you used in your reply I take it lightly with a smile on my face
nebulaoperator said:
I am looking at some oversampling info on wikipedia. Thats exactly what Nokia did with pure view ,for instance, combining pixels into cluster to make one better pixel with improved characteristics . Then technically speaking reducing mp size can enable sensor to perform better. Thanks for bringing it out about Sony. Your thoughts so much parallel of mine about they inability to nail their camera performance taking into account they sensor plus all experience. This could due to the reason they don't actually work close enough to Sony photographic department and more or less on they own. Not sharing the love between themselve From my observation it's a lot about soft optimization, as you mention in your post , and here I can not to finish my post without mentioning 1+1 camera transformation that occurred in period from release date up until now. Camera performance is very good.
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Alrighty then. Thats an awesome feature! Really hope that HTC can make the same magic as Nokia did with their Lumia series based on what you found out on Wikipedia etc. I will be more than pleased if the camera on the M9 outperforms the camera placed in the Z4, that should tell everybody that HTC did an amazing job optimizing it when they beat Sony and their own sensor
I've looked at some comparison photo's from gsmarena and personally I don't think it's much worse than the iPhone 6 shots they posted.
Think the day light pictures will probably be great, but the low light ones may be not so much. Without being any company's fanboy there is a great chance that the M9 camera won't be the best.
I have no idea what HTC did but images are getting very good ...at least in this series : http://www.sogi.com.tw/mobile/articles/6239319-HTC+One+M9、M8兩代旗艦機相機實拍對決！