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[Q] Arc volume limit

I just got the arc a few days ago, I absolutely love this phone except for one really annoying problem I have with it. The volume of music when listenning through earphones. My iphone could go much louder.
I have since tried different earphones and downloaded a few volume boosting Apps, and nothing changes. The Apps do absolutely noyhing.
I have searched to see if there are others who find this same problem. I seem to be the only one, I suppose my ears are shot. Is there any way to get the volume to go higher or am I stuck with this? Thanks.

Mate, if you actually gave the thread a proper title rather than " [Q] ", more people would be willing to help you; especially those who know the answer.
With regards to your problem, I'm sorry but I don't have the solution to that.
Cheers!

Jujuforever said:
I just got the arc a few days ago, I absolutely love this phone except for one really annoying problem I have with it. The volume of music when listenning through earphones. My iphone could go much louder.
I have since tried different earphones and downloaded a few volume boosting Apps, and nothing changes. The Apps do absolutely noyhing.
I have searched to see if there are others who find this same problem. I seem to be the only one, I suppose my ears are shot. Is there any way to get the volume to go higher or am I stuck with this? Thanks.
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Bro, you got some problem with your ear...not with the phone or headphones . Most of the reviews I read says that Arc has one of the best volumes for music.
Checkout the gsmarena website, they have one of the cleanest I guess and change your topic.

prathaban said:
Bro, you got some problem with your ear...not with the phone or headphones . Most of the reviews I read says that Arc has one of the best volumes for music.
Checkout the gsmarena website, they have one of the cleanest I guess and change your topic.
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As I said in my original post, my Iphone could go louder and was much more enjoyable. I'm disappointed that the volume can't be increased even with the help of apps.
I've also noticed that when using PowerAMP and adjusting the EQ to a preset setting, they all lower the volume even more so. I can't even change my EQ to Dance, or Rock without losing more volume.
Thanks for the help.

Jujuforever said:
As I said in my original post, my Iphone could go louder and was much more enjoyable. I'm disappointed that the volume can't be increased even with the help of apps.
I've also noticed that when using PowerAMP and adjusting the EQ to a preset setting, they all lower the volume even more so. I can't even change my EQ to Dance, or Rock without losing more volume.
Thanks for the help.
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I never used an iPhone, but I'm pretty sure that Arc has one of the best audio capabilities. I use bluetooth to listen to music (MW600) and I don't leave that in full volume sine my ear can't take it. My volume is always 1/2 to 3/4 only!
If you are experiencing issues, then I better advise you get your phone exchanged if possible or repaired. But I'm not sure how your comparison is done and not sure what will be result after you repair or get another piece.

I'm using CX300 II and my arc give me great sound quality, I have iPod nano gen 5 too for my comparison. Volume with CX300 I always set it to 1/4 as it loud enough for me.

lol i too think the problem is with your ears not the arc, or you have a faulty one? i think the arc has one of the best audio quality and i had the iphone 4 too....

Probably a faulty device. Try exchanging it and test out the audio quality at the store itself before bringing it back home.

my question is the limit !! can it be increased ? i usually like loud music and for me the limit is a bit low .

if the limit is too low then you seriously have hearing problems. Must be all the loud music

philansel7 said:
my question is the limit !! can it be increased ? i usually like loud music and for me the limit is a bit low .
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You're not reading the advice.. The arc volume is loud.. if your device is not loud then you have a faulty device.

I got my new ARC today, hurray (sweet silvery mist)!!
Honestly, the sound quality is very good. But it feels like that there could be one or two more steps on the volume controll to increse the loudness, atleast with the supplied in-ear headphones.

Some music plays lower and some higher i dont know maybe ur musics?
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I've noticed this too. It's kind of shocking to see the amount of people jumping to conclusions here....
I got around it by using 'PowerAmp', and using the PreAmp function located under Equalizer settings.
I'd say that it's some kind of volume limiter (I think UK commonly has some kind of Volume Limitations on devices; my device is from the UK).

SkitZaY said:
I've noticed this too. It's kind of shocking to see the amount of people jumping to conclusions here....
I got around it by using 'PowerAmp', and using the PreAmp function located under Equalizer settings.
I'd say that it's some kind of volume limiter (I think UK commonly has some kind of Volume Limitations on devices; my device is from the UK).
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Probably a volume limiter, but its not an UK idea. What I remember from before (2007) when I had a SE P1i, it was France that had som EU regulation issues about volume on mobiles.
So SE decided to implement it on all new devices worldwide, not to get insurance "hearing problem" claims.
But its just a guess...
Ps. My SE P1i was a brown/engineer model (impossible to flash without hardware tools aka EPROM, so I bricked it totally once one day after modding too much).

just came from this thread then finally go to this page.
From GSMArena
...Plus the XPERIA Arc is reasonably loud so it's all looking pretty good...

I use Power amp to play my music. Its available on the market, you can really control the volume on your music and is much better than the music player that comes with the phone.

Sound Quality

Does anyone experience this ? my wife & I listen to internet radio (like pandora), she had a X8 (rooted) my is of course Ion. Compare the two, the sound for X8 was alot better clear and sharp bass. the Ion is just dull, a lot of white noise ? Is this because we haven't been able to unlock bootloader and rejuvenate its hardware ?

accts said:
Does anyone experience this ? my wife & I listen to internet radio (like pandora), she had a X8 (rooted) my is of course Ion. Compare the two, the sound for X8 was alot better clear and sharp bass. the Ion is just dull, a lot of white noise ? Is this because we haven't been able to unlock bootloader and rejuvenate its hardware ?
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Considering pandora is streaming radio it's not a very good test...
Also make sure that one of the Pandora clients isn't set to high quality audio while the other is not.

papped said:
Considering pandora is streaming radio it's not a very good test...
Also make sure that one of the Pandora clients isn't set to high quality audio while the other is not.
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I said this cuz I tested same song - same channel. Listening on Ion make me want to throw the phone to the wall, cuz I was just so bad. I understand the inconsistency of the streaming, however shouldn't be that much of a different. I just have to wait until getting a custom ROM.

two things..one. def do this test with a song that is of good quality and on the phone already. not streaming.
two. try tweaking the DSP manager for Phone Speaker... i listen to a lot of electronic music and i'd say i'm hearing the tracks quite beautifully with my ion

I listen to pandora a lot and think it sounds great
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Overall I'm not too impressed w the ion's built-in speaker in regards to music, audio, etc (my X10 sounds better). However its pretty much what I expected from the ion's slim design, long as it's loud enough to hear ring & notification(which it is) I'm pretty much good.
I def agree streaming radio is by no means an adequate source test for fidelity but on the other hand the ion fidelity in only going to be so good unless u plug it into a more capable sorce. eb
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and in which case... the sound quality is pretty freakin nice if u ask me.. esp using dsp manager to tweak out the bass and treble

killerskincanoe said:
and in which case... the sound quality is pretty freakin nice if u ask me.. esp using dsp manager to tweak out the bass and treble
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Some where I read dsp doesn't do any good instead conflicted with the rom, but that when I was with my VIVID. Maybe i should give dsp manager a try now.

really? thats weird.. i had it on my inspire running exitz AOSP 4.03 and it worked great... works on my HTC Flyer as well.. and i DEF notice a diff when i turn it on on my ION...

I really only use the default music player on the phone and you just gotta play around with the equalizer a bit. From dubstep to screamo and everything in between I've gotten it to sound pretty damn good from the speaker. Not perfect quality, but hey, it's a phone. Anyone with something they can stream it to I'd advise that over anything though, if I wanna play it out loud I stream it to my Sony Google TV.

Yeah it is what it is so to speak. I'm good w it.
Anybody needs DSP Manager I posted it along with some other 2.3.7 apps under the "Themes & Apps" section of this forum. They all should install regularly as they did for me. eb
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accts said:
Does anyone experience this ? my wife & I listen to internet radio (like pandora), she had a X8 (rooted) my is of course Ion. Compare the two, the sound for X8 was alot better clear and sharp bass. the Ion is just dull, a lot of white noise ? Is this because we haven't been able to unlock bootloader and rejuvenate its hardware ?
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Have you tried to enable XLoud in your audio settings?

discoceris said:
Have you tried to enable XLoud in your audio settings?
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Yes, did used the dsp manager too. I still didn't get that good quality sound. The speaker is loud, but sound is very dull not much of bass nor treble. I felt like it got a lot of white noise - Output to speakers however is better. Maybe I just don't know how to set it up.
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Xperia S vs Ion - some observations from daily use

I've been bouncing to / from my XPS and Ion. I've made the following observations:
- XPS has a longer battery life, at 8 hours of good usage I'm at ~ 65%, after 4 hours on the Ion I'm at 50%
- LightFlow App works great on the XPS with the bright LED, doesn't even work on my Ion .. can't see the freaking LED!
- Volume / call quality is better on the XPS, sounds much lower on the Ion
- On my XPS, When I hang up, the screen doesn't always wake, I need to press the power button to hang up the phone call! This doesn't happen on my Ion.
- 4G on Ion is great (25Meg down), but here in Texas I find myself bouncing to HSPA all the time.
So, I can't definitively chose a daily phone .. each have their strong points.
Any comments from you all that use both on a regular basis ?

Ion has a much better screen to me. When I go from the XS to my ion I am amazed at how much better it looks. I agree on the battery life. My XS with ICS seems to last forever compared to the ion.
Sound quality while on the phone isn't that much of a difference to me. Speaker phone is a different story. The XS is much better as a speaker phone.

Spectre51 said:
Ion has a much better screen to me. When I go from the XS to my ion I am amazed at how much better it looks. I agree on the battery life. My XS with ICS seems to last forever compared to the ion.
Sound quality while on the phone isn't that much of a difference to me. Speaker phone is a different story. The XS is much better as a speaker phone.
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Thanks Spectre51 - Have you experienced similar issues with hanging up a call on the XS ? Many times when I pull the phone away from my ear the proximity sensor doesn't turn the screen back on so to press the disconnect button, I'm left wondering if the other person dropped the line yet. On the Ion, the screen immediately turns on during the same scenario.

enrique71 said:
Thanks Spectre51 - Have you experienced similar issues with hanging up a call on the XS ? Many times when I pull the phone away from my ear the proximity sensor doesn't turn the screen back on so to press the disconnect button, I'm left wondering if the other person dropped the line yet. On the Ion, the screen immediately turns on during the same scenario.
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Haven't really payed much attention to that but I will now. Haven't really noticed it happening.
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enrique71 said:
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- Volume / call quality is better on the XPS, sounds much lower on the Ion
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I found audio much cleaner through a headset on both - not much to set them apart for playing music.
I agree with spectre51 - for multimedia/screen time much prefer the ION
For convenience and casual use (eg phone and camera shots), I think the XPS has the edge, and fits into my pocket better.

So which phone your opinions is better? I am so much on the fence I can't make up my mind.

enrique71 said:
So which phone your opinions is better? I am so much on the fence I can't make up my mind.
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Your better off waiting for the next flagship devices
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[Q] Advice on buying Xperia ZL?

Hello, dear all users of Xperia ZL...
I'm planning to buy a ZL, I've been thinking about it more than a month to purchase this phone.. I've watched several reviews, advantages, and disadvantages of it. But here in XDA, recently I realized some people faced a problem related to ZL when suddenly shut down itself because of several reasons, like the battery, etc. It looked like because ZL has built-in non removable battery, this kind of problem occurred. And for some people, changing the battery will fix the issue...
Now after knowing this kind of problem, I got myself in dilemma. I mean, this kind of problem is quite serious I think because it is related with the hardware. If it is only about LED, app, or any other software problem, it is not really matter for me, beside if it is already serious I still have XDA.. But if related to the hardware, I'm afraid my purchase will be a total waste...
So, I want to ask to you all, the users of ZL.
Does the newest Xperia ZL phone on sale might still have this kind of problem? Or Sony have already fixed it somehow recalling ZL released on 2013?
Thanks a lot for all of you in advance..

Rei Zazie said:
Hello, dear all users of Xperia ZL...
I'm planning to buy a ZL, I've been thinking about it more than a month to purchase this phone.. I've watched several reviews, advantages, and disadvantages of it. But here in XDA, recently I realized some people faced a problem related to ZL when suddenly shut down itself because of several reasons, like the battery, etc. It looked like because ZL has built-in non removable battery, this kind of problem occurred. And for some people, changing the battery will fix the issue...
Now after knowing this kind of problem, I got myself in dilemma. I mean, this kind of problem is quite serious I think because it is related with the hardware. If it is only about LED, app, or any other software problem, it is not really matter for me, beside if it is already serious I still have XDA.. But if related to the hardware, I'm afraid my purchase will be a total waste...
So, I want to ask to you all, the users of ZL.
Does the newest Xperia ZL phone on sale might still have this kind of problem? Or Sony have already fixed it somehow recalling ZL released on 2013?
Thanks a lot for all of you in advance..
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I own an Xperia ZL, bought on Oct 2013, initially, yes, i had an issue of the phone going into deep sleep and being unable to wake. That was on 4.2.2. Activating stamina mode made the sleep of death problem even worse. And back then, the battery was only able of sustaining a day's moderate usage. But since Android 4.3 was released for the ZL, all those problems have been cleared. Now, the phone performs as smooth as the Z1. it has all the camera apps as well which i think are great. Stamina mode runs very well as it should be , and no more battery drain issues. As for your query as to sudden shut down, i think its because the battery overheated. Yes, the phone can run quite warm, if you do hardcore games for long periods, like say, 45 minutes non stop , i personally have never experienced sudden shut down's before. DO also note that if the ZL gets into the occasional freeze or deep sleep, it has an advantage over the Z- a hard reset button beside the simcard slot. On the design front, there is something interesting to note of the ZL's frame. It feels different to that of the Z. the Z's frame is plastic, but the ZL's frame(for the white version) feels metallic(likely aluminium). when you try using your finger to scratch it, the Z's frame is rough, but the ZL's is smooth and hard.

rookie93 said:
I own an Xperia ZL, bought on Oct 2013, initially, yes, i had an issue of the phone going into deep sleep and being unable to wake. That was on 4.2.2. Activating stamina mode made the sleep of death problem even worse. And back then, the battery was only able of sustaining a day's moderate usage. But since Android 4.3 was released for the ZL, all those problems have been cleared. Now, the phone performs as smooth as the Z1. it has all the camera apps as well which i think are great. Stamina mode runs very well as it should be , and no more battery drain issues. As for your query as to sudden shut down, i think its because the battery overheated. Yes, the phone can run quite warm, if you do hardcore games for long periods, like say, 45 minutes non stop , i personally have never experienced sudden shut down's before. DO also note that if the ZL gets into the occasional freeze or deep sleep, it has an advantage over the Z- a hard reset button beside the simcard slot. On the design front, there is something interesting to note of the ZL's frame. It feels different to that of the Z. the Z's frame is plastic, but the ZL's frame(for the white version) feels metallic(likely aluminium). when you try using your finger to scratch it, the Z's frame is rough, but the ZL's is smooth and hard.
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Yeah, I think I did aware that overheat battery is also causing the phone to sudden death. But what I found were quite horrifying, because after the sudden death happen, they cannot turn on their ZL unless they put it to wall charger, some of them also experienced their ZL bootloop even they didn't root it yet. Many of the ZL users fixed this kind of problem by replacing the battery. These problem occurred after the sudden death of the ZL. Are these for real? I mean, getting in touch with replacing battery means this is a ridiculously hardware problem.
I'm wondering is this still happen nowadays with ZL users?

Rei Zazie said:
Yeah, I think I did aware that overheat battery is also causing the phone to sudden death. But what I found were quite horrifying, because after the sudden death happen, they cannot turn on their ZL unless they put it to wall charger, some of them also experienced their ZL bootloop even they didn't root it yet. Many of the ZL users fixed this kind of problem by replacing the battery. These problem occurred after the sudden death of the ZL. Are these for real? I mean, getting in touch with replacing battery means this is a ridiculously hardware problem.
I'm wondering is this still happen nowadays with ZL users?
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well, in my country only C6502 is available for sale. mine was fine. and people that i have come across generally, never had any problems with their ZL's... so perhaps this might be regional/model issues? try seeking for comments from local people who own a ZL to see what its like. Sony Mobile's support in my country is absolutely horrible. i'm not sure about yours, but the service centre here is very very very poor in service and timing. So i definitely wouldn't want a Sony phone which would have issues.

Got my C6506 (new) OCT 2013.... no hardware issues..... the odd software issues here and there (Google TTS crashing, running the .569 version)....... most irritating thing about the C6506 is its 1-2 months or so lagging in updates.......

I have a C6506 too. I've had mine for just under a year. And no issues for me except the black dots on my pictures. I'm just praying I don't get the power death issue as well. I've even pulled out my old Motorola Atrix and got it flashed with a solid ROM, just so I have a backup device in case.
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Called customer care in india. Xperia ZL is out of stock and no more in production.
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Had that sudden power off issue, still my phone was without warranty so I had to change the battery. Reasons are: horrifying battery quality+hard gaming, played like 4 horus/day for 2 weeks and the problem begun. ( no clocktweaks at all! )
If you buy a phone WITH warranty, and it's truth the fact that the phone's production stopped I totally encourage you to do so, best case scenario you get the problem and get switched for a better model ( if you check sony's support forum you'll see some exchanges for "Z" or even "Z1" models ). Worst case you get the problem on 366 day and you buy a new, cheap by then, battery; not such a bad thing, the phone will keep on working for +20 bucks or so

I'm owning my C6503 since mid April 2013. Never had a sudden power off. Since June 2013 I haven't been on the stock firmware and never had any hardware issues.

Go for it!
I've had my ZL for a bit more than 4 months now. It was rooted from its first days till some weeks ago that I flashed stock 4.3 to it. Now it's working better than 4.2, but it's un-rooted. (Hoping for a rooting method for when 4.4 is available, please @DooMLoRD!!)
Never had any issues of any kind. Solid, big yet compact and beautiful looking device, now at a very good price.
But you have to consider; if you are a guy or a girl that spends most of his/her day outside (with little to no rest-to-recharge possibilities) you will need a battery bank of at least 5000mAh to go with you so you can really use yor ZL the whole day without compromises. Otherwise your ZL will die on you in +-8 hours of usage due to the high screen brightness you need when you're outside a building and you won't be able to play anything. Ha
The ZL's battery -now- can last up to 12 hours under moderate usage on the go, and up to 22 hours if you have a job that needs you to concentrate and stop touching your device for 8 hours, in such cases you only touch your device for little moments till your working day is over.
All in all this is a great device; fast and powerful enough for any task. Its camera and all is good. But I'll get a 10000 mAh battery bank as soon as I can cause I feel that way I can really make this babe shine that splendid screen, and not to have it at low brightness because of the battery. But that's me. Why 10000 mAh? Cause the 5000 or 7500 ones are almost as big and heavy as the 10000 one, and just a little bit more expensive. Reasonable, huh? And I can carry one anyway.
I hope this helped you.
- Leonardo.
Pd: Soon I'll be posting my trick for the ZL's screen, to make it look almost like the IPS screen of the G2.
And the black version is better looking for me.

First of all... Thanks for all the replies guys.. I really appreciate all your feedback and suggestions..
Sw33t_Lov3r said:
I've had my ZL for a bit more than 4 months now. It was rooted from its first days till some weeks ago that I flashed stock 4.3 to it. Now it's working better than 4.2, but it's un-rooted. (Hoping for a rooting method for when 4.4 is available, please @DooMLoRD!!)
Never had any issues of any kind. Solid, big yet compact and beautiful looking device, now at a very good price.
But you have to consider; if you are a guy or a girl that spends most of his/her day outside (with little to no rest-to-recharge possibilities) you will need a battery bank of at least 5000mAh to go with you so you can really use yor ZL the whole day without compromises. Otherwise your ZL will die on you in +-8 hours of usage due to the high screen brightness you need when you're outside a building and you won't be able to play anything. Ha
The ZL's battery -now- can last up to 12 hours under moderate usage on the go, and up to 22 hours if you have a job that needs you to concentrate and stop touching your device for 8 hours, in such cases you only touch your device for little moments till your working day is over.
All in all this is a great device; fast and powerful enough for any task. Its camera and all is good. But I'll get a 10000 mAh battery bank as soon as I can cause I feel that way I can really make this babe shine that splendid screen, and not to have it at low brightness because of the battery. But that's me. Why 10000 mAh? Cause the 5000 or 7500 ones are almost as big and heavy as the 10000 one, and just a little bit more expensive. Reasonable, huh? And I can carry one anyway.
I hope this helped you.
- Leonardo.
Pd: Soon I'll be posting my trick for the ZL's screen, to make it look almost like the IPS screen of the G2.
And the black version is better looking for me.
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So apparently, the newest 4.3 firmware works flawlessly without such power death issue as far as you know right? Because actually that problem I've found seems like when ZL is still several months after released and looks like still not getting this newest firmware update... That's why I need to confirm whether there is still such problem for newest ZL out there...
Thanks for the suggestion about black color btw, I'm actually planning to buy the black one...
And for other members that haven't shared their experiences in using ZL, I really hope you'd share.. because I'm like a lost girl at a forest, I need to know if I really should buy this overwhelming device.. I would really appreciate all of your feedback, guys...
And thanks in advance once again..
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I bought my zl on 19th nov... had no sudden death issue or anything like that ..bt i had black dots in my cam ... i noticed it aftr 2mnths of usage ... went to service center ..they replaced it n gave me a brand new phone ... working fine till now ... its been almost a month now ...
i agree to everything the Sw33t_Lov3r said about the battery.

I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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viskon said:
I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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Width of ZL is 69,3 and S4 is 69,8. How's yours ZL wider

viskon said:
I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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Now that you mention it, I just know about the ZL camera issue..
Thanks for the feedback..
I know that ZL actually has several disadvantages, but I dont really mind if they're about hardware that not really affect the performance, as long as it is works like it should be..
That's why I aimed for ZL, because I don't have anything across my mind beside ZL that has those performance.. Now that I found some more issues, I don't really know what should I buy with similar performance and price if not ZL..
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sarobi said:
Width of ZL is 69,3 and S4 is 69,8. How's yours ZL wider
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Dang! You're right! I held them up one on top of the other, and the S4 is wider.
Not sure if it is because of the sharp corners, but with the ZL I seem to have to stretch my thumb more.
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Rei Zazie said:
Now that you mention it, I just know about the ZL camera issue..
Thanks for the feedback..
I know that ZL actually has several disadvantages, but I dont really mind if they're about hardware that not really affect the performance, as long as it is works like it should be..
That's why I aimed for ZL, because I don't have anything across my mind beside ZL that has those performance.. Now that I found some more issues, I don't really know what should I buy with similar performance and price if not ZL..
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The LG Optimus G? Or a Nexus 4? Or Nexus 5?
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viskon said:
The LG Optimus G? Or a Nexus 4? Or Nexus 5?
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Nexus 5 has better CPU performance.. But there is no SD card slot..
Optimus G pro e985 actually good but, it is still quite more expensive.. and I dont know whether it got 4.4 kitkat update...

Rei Zazie said:
Nexus 5 has better CPU performance.. But there is no SD card slot..
Optimus G pro e985 actually good but, it is still quite more expensive.. and I dont know whether it got 4.4 kitkat update...
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Where are you making your purchase? Somewhere online?
There are some great deals here ---> http://www.clove.co.uk/smartphones/bargain-deals

ATRIXXIRTA said:
Where are you making your purchase? Somewhere online?
There are some great deals here ---> http://www.clove.co.uk/smartphones/bargain-deals
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well I actually planned to buy at the supplier within my country, Indonesia.. I dont have credit card... :laugh:

Rei Zazie said:
well I actually planned to buy at the supplier within my country, Indonesia.. I dont have credit card... :laugh:
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I found this site. Its based in Indonesia.
Do you have, or are you able to get a Visa Debit card?
Its a card that acts like a debit, drawing money from your own accounts, but you can use it for online purchases instead of a credit card!

[Q] Htc Desire 820 vs Samsung Galaxy S4

Hello! I have mega trouble, because I want to buy new phone. My current phone is Sony Xperia SP. Since the new phone I demand smooth operation, good quality camera and good speaker. I hesitate because I do not know which phone plays louder and who has a better camera. I read that HTC has a problem with noise during recording and it made me very worried. Nor do I know that your phone better talking. I always wanted to have a HTC, but now in the current situation, I was a little offended. My situation is that I have no choice other phones.
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Richard15 said:
Hello! I have mega trouble, because I want to buy new phone. My current phone is Sony Xperia SP. Since the new phone I demand smooth operation, good quality camera and good speaker. I hesitate because I do not know which phone plays louder and who has a better camera. I read that HTC has a problem with noise during recording and it made me very worried. Nor do I know that your phone better talking. I always wanted to have a HTC, but now in the current situation, I was a little offended. My situation is that I have no choice other phones.
Thanks and I greet they all
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i had s4 and bought htc now. Let me put it in short story:
s4:
- **** laggy software
- great camera
- bad sound system
- nice colorful screen, but small
- good that buttons are not on screen
- removable battery
this htc:
- great super fast software
- colorful screen, little difference to s4, s4 has more aturated colors
- big screen
- bad that buttons are on screen
- super great speakers
- no removable battery
- nice power saving options
- super fast procesor-64 bit, which is the ffuture of processors and will be even faste in android 5.0
This is it for now. If you dont mind big phone and you want great performance, then definitly but htc. If you want crappy housing smaller phone, with better screen and camera, than buy s4. But s4 is realy outdated. Ask more if you want

Thanks! You say that the HTC plays better than samsung, you can estimate how much?
The battery keeps better in HTC?
How does the quality of calls on both phones?
Do u you there is noise on recordings from a microphone?

Thanks! You say that the HTC plays better than samsung, you can estimate how much? Yes, htc has 2 front speakers, s4 has one small on the back
The battery keeps better in HTC? Yes, you even have power saving mode, and i dont see any difference in performance with power saving on or off, just more battery
How does the quality of calls on both phones? hmm, dont know realy, i dont talk much. Didnt notice any diff
Do u you there is noise on recordings from a microphone? not realy, tried to record myself and not problems

It reminded me of another question. If you are using throttling phenomenon occurs?