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I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
The expandable storage and near-stock UI is what made me select this device over the HTC One and Samsung GS4!
Additionally, this forum is pretty slow. Hopefully, the release of the ZL in Canada today should bring some folks over.
rajeshr said:
I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
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Yes, as long as it is formatted as FAT.
rajeshr said:
- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
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Image quality is a hit and miss. You may get a good picture, take the exact same shot the next second, and the quality may not turn out as good. I suspect the camera software is at fault.
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- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
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Light usage (~1 hour of screen on-time): Yes
Moderate usage (~3 hours of screen on-time): Depends on application. Gaming/Video streaming or running at 70%+ brightness constantly? Probably not.
Heavy usage (5+ hours of screen on-time): No.
rajeshr said:
I placed an order with shopblt.com for a Xperia ZL (6506) and have a couple of questions. I do realize that (maybe) I should have asked them prior to ordering, but it's too late for that!
- Has anyone tried a 64GB microSD card? The specs say the ZL has support for upto 32GB, so I'm not sure 64GB would work.
- Is the camera as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Soft and fuzzy pics are the norm?
- And how is the battery life? Does it get you through 24 hours? Any improvements once the battery had a few cycles?
The expandable storage and near-stock UI is what made me select this device over the HTC One and Samsung GS4!
Additionally, this forum is pretty slow. Hopefully, the release of the ZL in Canada today should bring some folks over.
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1. 64GB uSD works perfectly well. AND the phone does not end up corrupting your cards like the Samsung phones do. Pick up one of them Sandisk Ultra Pro cards and you'll be a happy camper.
2. Can't comment, never use camera on a phone. Its pointless IMO unless you have something like the Nokia 808
3. I constantly get 4+ (almost 5) hours of screen on time. Auto brightness, an equal mix of gaming, browsing (on HSPA), IM'img and calling, about an hour of GPS Sports tracking and music. I am really happy with the battery life. Takes me through the day without any hiccups.
The development of the ZL will pick up, but don't hold your breath. A couple of good ROMs is all I can see coming for this phone. The GS4 is going to take all the limelight in spite of all its mediocrity.
anirudh412 said:
1. 64GB uSD works perfectly well. AND the phone does not end up corrupting your cards like the Samsung phones do. Pick up one of them Sandisk Ultra Pro cards and you'll be a happy camper.
3. I constantly get 4+ (almost 5) hours of screen on time. Auto brightness, an equal mix of gaming, browsing (on HSPA), IM'img and calling. I am really happy with the battery life. Takes me through the day without any hiccups.
The development of the ZL will pick up, but don't hold your breath. A couple of good ROMs is all I can see coming for this phone. The GS4 is going to take all the limelight in spite of all its mediocrity.
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I fully agree with what's said above. About the ZL camera here are my thoughts (post #13&16). For battery life see here (post #3&5).
Sd card has to be formatted to fat32? Cuz its not a working on mine.
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Sd card has to be formatted to fat32? Cuz its not a working on mine.
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Yes, 32 kB cluster. I would try to let the phone do it if it is able to detect the card inserted.
Canceled my order from shopblt and bought it direct from Rogers. At least I get 14 days to try it out - if I don't like it, I can return it. Just charging it right now, so I don't have too many initial thoughts. So far the size seems fine and I do like the textured back. The 64GB card also seems to work, so that is good.
Thanks to all for the help provided. I'll definitely check out the camera settings and see what happens in my case.
More feedback after a day of usage:
- Feels great in the hand, and the textured back helps you grip the phone firmly. Size is right for me.
- Build quality is outstanding. Don't know who came up with the design of the SIM/SD card cover as that is the only weak point there.
- Screen looks amazing head on. As you angle it away, it starts washing out fairly quickly. If I leave it on my desk while working, I cannot read much of the text unless I pick it up. It is pretty annoying have to pick it up all the time to read my incoming emails/text etc.
- The camera is awful. I've adjusted the settings manually, but the photos come out so soft.
- It seems like the LTE radio is weak. I get little to no signal in locations where I get a medium strength signal with the GS3 or the HTC 8X.
- Call quality is fine - nothing great, and nothing too bad either.
- Battery life seems fine - doesn't seem to deteriorate too rapidly even on LTE.
Between the display & camera issues, I may be tempted to go back the S3 for some time and wait to check out the GS IV or the HTC One X. I'll try it out another week or so and see if I can get used to it.
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More feedback after a day of usage:
- Feels great in the hand, and the textured back helps you grip the phone firmly. Size is right for me.
- Build quality is outstanding. Don't know who came up with the design of the SIM/SD card cover as that is the only weak point there.
- Screen looks amazing head on. As you angle it away, it starts washing out fairly quickly. If I leave it on my desk while working, I cannot read much of the text unless I pick it up. It is pretty annoying have to pick it up all the time to read my incoming emails/text etc.
- The camera is awful. I've adjusted the settings manually, but the photos come out so soft.
- It seems like the LTE radio is weak. I get little to no signal in locations where I get a medium strength signal with the GS3 or the HTC 8X.
- Call quality is fine - nothing great, and nothing too bad either.
- Battery life seems fine - doesn't seem to deteriorate too rapidly even on LTE.
Between the display & camera issues, I may be tempted to go back the S3 for some time and wait to check out the GS IV or the HTC One X. I'll try it out another week or so and see if I can get used to it.
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I picked the phone up yesterday when a retailer near me finally had one (none on tuesday)
and I agree the feels good in the hand, gives you a confidence that my Arc just didn't have
I don't see the SD/SIM cover a weak point, how often are you really opening that up?
as far as angling the phone away, it's sitting on the desk beside me right now and I can see everything just fine, I have 74% battery left and it's 11:56pm. it's -8 outside and feels like -9... I could read anything just fine from here
haven't really tested the camera out, but that wasn't a selling feature for me so not a big deal
I'm unable to get any LTE signal in Winnipeg, but I"m going to attribute that to Rogers not having LTE service anywhere in Manitoba...
Call quality seems pretty good, the one call I made worked out just fine
Battery seems to last a good long while, however it seems that charging the phone through USB (not the wall charger) is nearly impossible if the screen is on.
With the display issues, I remember seeing that Sony put screens from two different manufacturers in the phones, have you checked to see which one you have? I think I saw a thread around here with instructions for how to find the info, I'll see if I can find it.
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I picked the phone up yesterday when a retailer near me finally had one (none on tuesday)
and I agree the feels good in the hand, gives you a confidence that my Arc just didn't have
I don't see the SD/SIM cover a weak point, how often are you really opening that up?
as far as angling the phone away, it's sitting on the desk beside me right now and I can see everything just fine, I have 74% battery left and it's 11:56pm. it's -8 outside and feels like -9... I could read anything just fine from here
haven't really tested the camera out, but that wasn't a selling feature for me so not a big deal
I'm unable to get any LTE signal in Winnipeg, but I"m going to attribute that to Rogers not having LTE service anywhere in Manitoba...
Call quality seems pretty good, the one call I made worked out just fine
Battery seems to last a good long while, however it seems that charging the phone through USB (not the wall charger) is nearly impossible if the screen is on.
With the display issues, I remember seeing that Sony put screens from two different manufacturers in the phones, have you checked to see which one you have? I think I saw a thread around here with instructions for how to find the info, I'll see if I can find it.
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Mine is the Sharp panel. But the display is horrible off-angle, so much so that I contemplating returning the phone.
No problem here. Reads fine off angle. I wonder whether you got bad one....
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rajeshr said:
Mine is the Sharp panel. But the display is horrible off-angle, so much so that I contemplating returning the phone.
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I agree.
Q.Entity said:
No problem here. Reads fine off angle. I wonder whether you got bad one....
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Even though I dont have 'problems' reading text off angle (which BTW, I rarely find myself doing), the washout is undeniable. Makes it seem that the phone has a cheap knockoff panel. When your main point of advertizing is the amazing screen to body ratio, one would think a top quality panel would be the priority.
Finally, I gave up on the phone. For a device that cost me $750 (hardware purchase + taxes), the issues were enough for me to return the phone. It is a promising device, but a couple of key issues made me want to return it.
- The display: Great head-on, every other viewing angle is terrible.
- Camera: The images are rather soft. I would assume this could be fixed by firmware, but I'm not going wait for it. I've been burned in the past by other Android manufacturers promising these kinds of fixes.
- Weak LTE signal compared to the other phones.
I think I'll wait and see how the HTC One or the Samsung GS IV turn out - till then I'll use my GS III or BB Z10.
Too bad, Sony! The ZL had tremendous potential, but it just wasn't for me!
rajeshr said:
Finally, I gave up on the phone. For a device that cost me $750 (hardware purchase + taxes), the issues were enough for me to return the phone. It is a promising device, but a couple of key issues made me want to return it.
- The display: Great head-on, every other viewing angle is terrible.
- Camera: The images are rather soft. I would assume this could be fixed by firmware, but I'm not going wait for it. I've been burned in the past by other Android manufacturers promising these kinds of fixes.
- Weak LTE signal compared to the other phones.
I think I'll wait and see how the HTC One or the Samsung GS IV turn out - till then I'll use my GS III or BB Z10.
Too bad, Sony! The ZL had tremendous potential, but it just wasn't for me!
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Sorry it didnt work out for ya. Having the S3 which is a perfectly capable device, I dont see a reason to switch to GS4. Maybe wait for the next Nexus? Off topic, how do you like the Z10?
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Sorry it didnt work out for ya. Having the S3 which is a perfectly capable device, I dont see a reason to switch to GS4. Maybe wait for the next Nexus? Off topic, how do you like the Z10?
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I really like the Z10 - the size is perfect (I personally think 4.2" is the perfect size), the Hub is an awesome idea, call quality is amazing and the battery life is only second to the RAZR HD. A couple of things let it down - only eight running apps are allowed; no 3rd party apps can hook into the hub. It is also let down by the lack of apps - most people are aware of this prior to buying the phone, but it's even worse once you use the phone for a little time. Most apps are ports of Android and the UI paradigm is really different. If more developers migrated to BB, it might help improve the viability of BB.
I have to say that when listening music with Poweramp+Senheiser CX300II the quality is good...but not as good as it was with Xperia ARC with the same combination.
Once u connect the earphones on the ARC, even without setting the proper parameters on the music player, u can notice it is going to be good, i´ve been trying different setups (and even different music players) to get the same quality in my ZL and i just gave up, it can´t be done.
I´m now in .253, before that i was root and tryid the Acid Audio Mod, it got better, but not as good as i was hoping.
I think i will try the PureXAudio Mod once it´s avalaible for .253 to see how the ZL manages the sound with that, but at the end of the day these are temporary solutions, it´is indeed a problem of hardware.
Obviously, the ZL sounds good, but i was expecting a bit more for a smartphone worth this kind of money.
Since it uses a Qualcomm chip i guess the DAC is WCD9310, i was really expecting more from Sony in this area, yet again, it is good, but it can be better, should it be given that this phone is its current flagship, and it should be better than the rest of Sony phones in every area, "the best of Sony in a smartphone" they say...
I have to agree. I had an Arc a while ago too and it sounded much better. My last phone before this was an Xperia U and it sounded much better than the ZL too, not only with earphones, but using the speaker too..
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I have to agree. I had an Arc a while ago too and it sounded much better. My last phone before this was an Xperia U and it sounded much better than the ZL too, not only with earphones, but using the speaker too..
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I installed the PureXaudio mod, it makes it louder...slightly better in terms of clear sound and bass...but not close to Arc yet.
I´m really thinking about going back to my old Arc, man, what a tough decision.
ZL with ARC Sound quality = Perfect Smartphone ((
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I installed the PureXaudio mod, it makes it louder...slightly better in terms of clear sound and bass...but not close to Arc yet.
I´m really thinking about going back to my old Arc, man, what a tough decision.
ZL with ARC Sound quality = Perfect Smartphone ((
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Let's back to Arc, i miss my Arc S..
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daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
Let's back to Arc, i miss my Arc S..
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I had a weird issue with my ARC, i had the USB port repaired, and they gave me the phone back i couldn´t use any headphone at all, got the "accesorie not supported" message, only the stock ones worked, it didn´t happen before.
I´m going to take the phone back because i think they had to mess around with the headphone jack some way, i used the phone for a year and a half and never happened before.
However I connected my Senheiser CX 300 II via Bluetooth on my MW600 set, and man, what a difference, that is pure amazing sound quality, ZL lacks of the same quality.
I wonder why Sony doesn´t take care of these things, the best of Sony in a Smartphone ...not true at all.
Also read this, quite anoying if true:
Just as an FYI to people interested. Rumors start to pop up recently that the real Sony flagship that will come out in Q3/4 will have both cybershot camera and walkman DAC/amp in it.
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http://www.head-fi.org/t/646707/upcoming-sony-xperia-z-dac/75
So am I the only one who thinks the internal speaker is too low? I can barely hear my phone calls..or maybe mine is defective?
Unfortunately I had to switch my Arc for ZL as well.. it was too old now.
But comparing them, it's not only the sound quality that is worse, but also the screen brightness, the design, the camera.
Honestly, the only improvement I see in ZL is the internal storage and processing power. I wish I could have my old Arc with ZL's CPU,GPU and memory
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Unfortunately I had to switch my Arc for ZL as well.. it was too old now.
But comparing them, it's not only the sound quality that is worse, but also the screen brightness, the design, the camera.
Honestly, the only improvement I see in ZL is the internal storage and processing power. I wish I could have my old Arc with ZL's CPU,GPU and memory
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What a phone that would be.
Hopefully Sony saved something like that for Q3/Q4.
sound zl x best...
hai,,,mcm mn nk bt sony zl bgi ada super bass,,ataupun bunyi yg tebaekk
install newest purexaudio...search in XZ development
Hello, dear all users of Xperia ZL...
I'm planning to buy a ZL, I've been thinking about it more than a month to purchase this phone.. I've watched several reviews, advantages, and disadvantages of it. But here in XDA, recently I realized some people faced a problem related to ZL when suddenly shut down itself because of several reasons, like the battery, etc. It looked like because ZL has built-in non removable battery, this kind of problem occurred. And for some people, changing the battery will fix the issue...
Now after knowing this kind of problem, I got myself in dilemma. I mean, this kind of problem is quite serious I think because it is related with the hardware. If it is only about LED, app, or any other software problem, it is not really matter for me, beside if it is already serious I still have XDA.. But if related to the hardware, I'm afraid my purchase will be a total waste...
So, I want to ask to you all, the users of ZL.
Does the newest Xperia ZL phone on sale might still have this kind of problem? Or Sony have already fixed it somehow recalling ZL released on 2013?
Thanks a lot for all of you in advance..
Rei Zazie said:
Hello, dear all users of Xperia ZL...
I'm planning to buy a ZL, I've been thinking about it more than a month to purchase this phone.. I've watched several reviews, advantages, and disadvantages of it. But here in XDA, recently I realized some people faced a problem related to ZL when suddenly shut down itself because of several reasons, like the battery, etc. It looked like because ZL has built-in non removable battery, this kind of problem occurred. And for some people, changing the battery will fix the issue...
Now after knowing this kind of problem, I got myself in dilemma. I mean, this kind of problem is quite serious I think because it is related with the hardware. If it is only about LED, app, or any other software problem, it is not really matter for me, beside if it is already serious I still have XDA.. But if related to the hardware, I'm afraid my purchase will be a total waste...
So, I want to ask to you all, the users of ZL.
Does the newest Xperia ZL phone on sale might still have this kind of problem? Or Sony have already fixed it somehow recalling ZL released on 2013?
Thanks a lot for all of you in advance..
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I own an Xperia ZL, bought on Oct 2013, initially, yes, i had an issue of the phone going into deep sleep and being unable to wake. That was on 4.2.2. Activating stamina mode made the sleep of death problem even worse. And back then, the battery was only able of sustaining a day's moderate usage. But since Android 4.3 was released for the ZL, all those problems have been cleared. Now, the phone performs as smooth as the Z1. it has all the camera apps as well which i think are great. Stamina mode runs very well as it should be , and no more battery drain issues. As for your query as to sudden shut down, i think its because the battery overheated. Yes, the phone can run quite warm, if you do hardcore games for long periods, like say, 45 minutes non stop , i personally have never experienced sudden shut down's before. DO also note that if the ZL gets into the occasional freeze or deep sleep, it has an advantage over the Z- a hard reset button beside the simcard slot. On the design front, there is something interesting to note of the ZL's frame. It feels different to that of the Z. the Z's frame is plastic, but the ZL's frame(for the white version) feels metallic(likely aluminium). when you try using your finger to scratch it, the Z's frame is rough, but the ZL's is smooth and hard.
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I own an Xperia ZL, bought on Oct 2013, initially, yes, i had an issue of the phone going into deep sleep and being unable to wake. That was on 4.2.2. Activating stamina mode made the sleep of death problem even worse. And back then, the battery was only able of sustaining a day's moderate usage. But since Android 4.3 was released for the ZL, all those problems have been cleared. Now, the phone performs as smooth as the Z1. it has all the camera apps as well which i think are great. Stamina mode runs very well as it should be , and no more battery drain issues. As for your query as to sudden shut down, i think its because the battery overheated. Yes, the phone can run quite warm, if you do hardcore games for long periods, like say, 45 minutes non stop , i personally have never experienced sudden shut down's before. DO also note that if the ZL gets into the occasional freeze or deep sleep, it has an advantage over the Z- a hard reset button beside the simcard slot. On the design front, there is something interesting to note of the ZL's frame. It feels different to that of the Z. the Z's frame is plastic, but the ZL's frame(for the white version) feels metallic(likely aluminium). when you try using your finger to scratch it, the Z's frame is rough, but the ZL's is smooth and hard.
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Yeah, I think I did aware that overheat battery is also causing the phone to sudden death. But what I found were quite horrifying, because after the sudden death happen, they cannot turn on their ZL unless they put it to wall charger, some of them also experienced their ZL bootloop even they didn't root it yet. Many of the ZL users fixed this kind of problem by replacing the battery. These problem occurred after the sudden death of the ZL. Are these for real? I mean, getting in touch with replacing battery means this is a ridiculously hardware problem.
I'm wondering is this still happen nowadays with ZL users?
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Yeah, I think I did aware that overheat battery is also causing the phone to sudden death. But what I found were quite horrifying, because after the sudden death happen, they cannot turn on their ZL unless they put it to wall charger, some of them also experienced their ZL bootloop even they didn't root it yet. Many of the ZL users fixed this kind of problem by replacing the battery. These problem occurred after the sudden death of the ZL. Are these for real? I mean, getting in touch with replacing battery means this is a ridiculously hardware problem.
I'm wondering is this still happen nowadays with ZL users?
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well, in my country only C6502 is available for sale. mine was fine. and people that i have come across generally, never had any problems with their ZL's... so perhaps this might be regional/model issues? try seeking for comments from local people who own a ZL to see what its like. Sony Mobile's support in my country is absolutely horrible. i'm not sure about yours, but the service centre here is very very very poor in service and timing. So i definitely wouldn't want a Sony phone which would have issues.
Got my C6506 (new) OCT 2013.... no hardware issues..... the odd software issues here and there (Google TTS crashing, running the .569 version)....... most irritating thing about the C6506 is its 1-2 months or so lagging in updates.......
I have a C6506 too. I've had mine for just under a year. And no issues for me except the black dots on my pictures. I'm just praying I don't get the power death issue as well. I've even pulled out my old Motorola Atrix and got it flashed with a solid ROM, just so I have a backup device in case.
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Called customer care in india. Xperia ZL is out of stock and no more in production.
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Had that sudden power off issue, still my phone was without warranty so I had to change the battery. Reasons are: horrifying battery quality+hard gaming, played like 4 horus/day for 2 weeks and the problem begun. ( no clocktweaks at all! )
If you buy a phone WITH warranty, and it's truth the fact that the phone's production stopped I totally encourage you to do so, best case scenario you get the problem and get switched for a better model ( if you check sony's support forum you'll see some exchanges for "Z" or even "Z1" models ). Worst case you get the problem on 366 day and you buy a new, cheap by then, battery; not such a bad thing, the phone will keep on working for +20 bucks or so
I'm owning my C6503 since mid April 2013. Never had a sudden power off. Since June 2013 I haven't been on the stock firmware and never had any hardware issues.
Go for it!
I've had my ZL for a bit more than 4 months now. It was rooted from its first days till some weeks ago that I flashed stock 4.3 to it. Now it's working better than 4.2, but it's un-rooted. (Hoping for a rooting method for when 4.4 is available, please @DooMLoRD!!)
Never had any issues of any kind. Solid, big yet compact and beautiful looking device, now at a very good price.
But you have to consider; if you are a guy or a girl that spends most of his/her day outside (with little to no rest-to-recharge possibilities) you will need a battery bank of at least 5000mAh to go with you so you can really use yor ZL the whole day without compromises. Otherwise your ZL will die on you in +-8 hours of usage due to the high screen brightness you need when you're outside a building and you won't be able to play anything. Ha
The ZL's battery -now- can last up to 12 hours under moderate usage on the go, and up to 22 hours if you have a job that needs you to concentrate and stop touching your device for 8 hours, in such cases you only touch your device for little moments till your working day is over.
All in all this is a great device; fast and powerful enough for any task. Its camera and all is good. But I'll get a 10000 mAh battery bank as soon as I can cause I feel that way I can really make this babe shine that splendid screen, and not to have it at low brightness because of the battery. But that's me. Why 10000 mAh? Cause the 5000 or 7500 ones are almost as big and heavy as the 10000 one, and just a little bit more expensive. Reasonable, huh? And I can carry one anyway.
I hope this helped you.
- Leonardo.
Pd: Soon I'll be posting my trick for the ZL's screen, to make it look almost like the IPS screen of the G2.
And the black version is better looking for me.
First of all... Thanks for all the replies guys.. I really appreciate all your feedback and suggestions..
Sw33t_Lov3r said:
I've had my ZL for a bit more than 4 months now. It was rooted from its first days till some weeks ago that I flashed stock 4.3 to it. Now it's working better than 4.2, but it's un-rooted. (Hoping for a rooting method for when 4.4 is available, please @DooMLoRD!!)
Never had any issues of any kind. Solid, big yet compact and beautiful looking device, now at a very good price.
But you have to consider; if you are a guy or a girl that spends most of his/her day outside (with little to no rest-to-recharge possibilities) you will need a battery bank of at least 5000mAh to go with you so you can really use yor ZL the whole day without compromises. Otherwise your ZL will die on you in +-8 hours of usage due to the high screen brightness you need when you're outside a building and you won't be able to play anything. Ha
The ZL's battery -now- can last up to 12 hours under moderate usage on the go, and up to 22 hours if you have a job that needs you to concentrate and stop touching your device for 8 hours, in such cases you only touch your device for little moments till your working day is over.
All in all this is a great device; fast and powerful enough for any task. Its camera and all is good. But I'll get a 10000 mAh battery bank as soon as I can cause I feel that way I can really make this babe shine that splendid screen, and not to have it at low brightness because of the battery. But that's me. Why 10000 mAh? Cause the 5000 or 7500 ones are almost as big and heavy as the 10000 one, and just a little bit more expensive. Reasonable, huh? And I can carry one anyway.
I hope this helped you.
- Leonardo.
Pd: Soon I'll be posting my trick for the ZL's screen, to make it look almost like the IPS screen of the G2.
And the black version is better looking for me.
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So apparently, the newest 4.3 firmware works flawlessly without such power death issue as far as you know right? Because actually that problem I've found seems like when ZL is still several months after released and looks like still not getting this newest firmware update... That's why I need to confirm whether there is still such problem for newest ZL out there...
Thanks for the suggestion about black color btw, I'm actually planning to buy the black one...
And for other members that haven't shared their experiences in using ZL, I really hope you'd share.. because I'm like a lost girl at a forest, I need to know if I really should buy this overwhelming device.. I would really appreciate all of your feedback, guys...
And thanks in advance once again..
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I bought my zl on 19th nov... had no sudden death issue or anything like that ..bt i had black dots in my cam ... i noticed it aftr 2mnths of usage ... went to service center ..they replaced it n gave me a brand new phone ... working fine till now ... its been almost a month now ...
i agree to everything the Sw33t_Lov3r said about the battery.
I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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Width of ZL is 69,3 and S4 is 69,8. How's yours ZL wider
viskon said:
I have a Galaxy s4 and my wife has the ZL. The ZL is a bit wider than my S4, so I find that I have to use it two handed more often than the S4. The screen viewing angles are terrible on the ZL. This is a problem when my wife is trying to show me a photo sitting across from me and all I can see are washed out images. Camera and battery life are average at best. On the positive side, the ZL screen is very good in bright sunlight. The software is excellent and Sony's Small Apps are a nice touch.
Edit: The ZL has the black dots in the camera, which is really poor quality control from Sony.
Edit: To the OP, I would not recommend the ZL.
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Now that you mention it, I just know about the ZL camera issue..
Thanks for the feedback..
I know that ZL actually has several disadvantages, but I dont really mind if they're about hardware that not really affect the performance, as long as it is works like it should be..
That's why I aimed for ZL, because I don't have anything across my mind beside ZL that has those performance.. Now that I found some more issues, I don't really know what should I buy with similar performance and price if not ZL..
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sarobi said:
Width of ZL is 69,3 and S4 is 69,8. How's yours ZL wider
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Dang! You're right! I held them up one on top of the other, and the S4 is wider.
Not sure if it is because of the sharp corners, but with the ZL I seem to have to stretch my thumb more.
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Rei Zazie said:
Now that you mention it, I just know about the ZL camera issue..
Thanks for the feedback..
I know that ZL actually has several disadvantages, but I dont really mind if they're about hardware that not really affect the performance, as long as it is works like it should be..
That's why I aimed for ZL, because I don't have anything across my mind beside ZL that has those performance.. Now that I found some more issues, I don't really know what should I buy with similar performance and price if not ZL..
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The LG Optimus G? Or a Nexus 4? Or Nexus 5?
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The LG Optimus G? Or a Nexus 4? Or Nexus 5?
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Nexus 5 has better CPU performance.. But there is no SD card slot..
Optimus G pro e985 actually good but, it is still quite more expensive.. and I dont know whether it got 4.4 kitkat update...
Rei Zazie said:
Nexus 5 has better CPU performance.. But there is no SD card slot..
Optimus G pro e985 actually good but, it is still quite more expensive.. and I dont know whether it got 4.4 kitkat update...
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Where are you making your purchase? Somewhere online?
There are some great deals here ---> http://www.clove.co.uk/smartphones/bargain-deals
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Where are you making your purchase? Somewhere online?
There are some great deals here ---> http://www.clove.co.uk/smartphones/bargain-deals
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well I actually planned to buy at the supplier within my country, Indonesia.. I dont have credit card... :laugh:
Rei Zazie said:
well I actually planned to buy at the supplier within my country, Indonesia.. I dont have credit card... :laugh:
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I found this site. Its based in Indonesia.
Do you have, or are you able to get a Visa Debit card?
Its a card that acts like a debit, drawing money from your own accounts, but you can use it for online purchases instead of a credit card!
Hello! I have mega trouble, because I want to buy new phone. My current phone is Sony Xperia SP. Since the new phone I demand smooth operation, good quality camera and good speaker. I hesitate because I do not know which phone plays louder and who has a better camera. I read that HTC has a problem with noise during recording and it made me very worried. Nor do I know that your phone better talking. I always wanted to have a HTC, but now in the current situation, I was a little offended. My situation is that I have no choice other phones.
Thanks and I greet they all
Richard15 said:
Hello! I have mega trouble, because I want to buy new phone. My current phone is Sony Xperia SP. Since the new phone I demand smooth operation, good quality camera and good speaker. I hesitate because I do not know which phone plays louder and who has a better camera. I read that HTC has a problem with noise during recording and it made me very worried. Nor do I know that your phone better talking. I always wanted to have a HTC, but now in the current situation, I was a little offended. My situation is that I have no choice other phones.
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i had s4 and bought htc now. Let me put it in short story:
s4:
- **** laggy software
- great camera
- bad sound system
- nice colorful screen, but small
- good that buttons are not on screen
- removable battery
this htc:
- great super fast software
- colorful screen, little difference to s4, s4 has more aturated colors
- big screen
- bad that buttons are on screen
- super great speakers
- no removable battery
- nice power saving options
- super fast procesor-64 bit, which is the ffuture of processors and will be even faste in android 5.0
This is it for now. If you dont mind big phone and you want great performance, then definitly but htc. If you want crappy housing smaller phone, with better screen and camera, than buy s4. But s4 is realy outdated. Ask more if you want
Thanks! You say that the HTC plays better than samsung, you can estimate how much?
The battery keeps better in HTC?
How does the quality of calls on both phones?
Do u you there is noise on recordings from a microphone?
Thanks! You say that the HTC plays better than samsung, you can estimate how much? Yes, htc has 2 front speakers, s4 has one small on the back
The battery keeps better in HTC? Yes, you even have power saving mode, and i dont see any difference in performance with power saving on or off, just more battery
How does the quality of calls on both phones? hmm, dont know realy, i dont talk much. Didnt notice any diff
Do u you there is noise on recordings from a microphone? not realy, tried to record myself and not problems
It reminded me of another question. If you are using throttling phenomenon occurs?
Hi guys,
Just sold my iPhone 6s Plus to come back to Droid.
During IFA in Berlin I felt in love with this Sony but many reviews are saying around the net: battery sucks, camera focus slow, in-call audio and music audio too low.
Can someone that got this phone give me some hint about this topic?
p.s. I can take it for about 270 like new.
ZetaKappa said:
Hi guys,
Just sold my iPhone 6s Plus to come back to Droid.
During IFA in Berlin I felt in love with this Sony but many reviews are saying around the net: battery sucks, camera focus slow, in-call audio and music audio too low.
Can someone that got this phone give me some hint about this topic?
p.s. I can take it for about 270 like new.
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Hi there, I recently got my XA1 Ultra after owning the Xperia X for just over a year and before that I owned a Xperia Z2 for 2 years. The X was a premium mid ranger and really did like it, but could of been a lot better. Jumping ship to XA1 Ultra felt slightly weird (bigger screen and mediatek chipset) as the colours don't look as intense as they were on my X, as for the battery I have had some great sessions from the XA1U and I personally think that this is down to the Helio P20 being very efficient on the battery.
Make sure you don't have Facebook installed as this can be battery heavy (kills my battery on my X) and I also use Greenify to force close apps that are running in the background to save battery. I have also installed Battery Care from Sony which records your charging pattern and will charge upto 90% and hit 100% at the time you 'wake up' etc.
As for the camera I can't say I have used it a lot but have used it now and then, I believe it uses the same rear module from the Z5 (I may be wrong but sure a fellow user told me this). As always many camera can struggle in low light but this camera seems to try and overcome that which is quite good, also let's not forget the awesome front flash!
As for in call audio I've had absolutely no problems with this whatsoever, as for the music audio being too low I've listened to a few of my tracks on the single speaker built into the phone and it's not the best but it's fairly decent considering there is only one speaker...
My only concerns at the moment I think are software based:
1) Sound can go 'tinny' like for 5 seconds or so and revert back to normal (you can really notice it and happens a lot)
2) Sometimes when waking the device the screen won't wake therefore you will have to wait 10 seconds or so or continuously press the power button.
3) SystemUI has crashed on me a few times, but it's not regular but I have seen elsewhere other people suffering from the same problem.
4) When installing a downloaded APK from third party site i.e. APK Mirror, when you go to install and it offers to press next or cancel, it won't let you press next therefore you can't install the APK. You have to restart the device and then the next button will work.
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Just took it today and it seems awesome!
Sometimes its a Little bit slow opening apps or switching apps...maybe is gonna be better with oreo...
Camera battery and audio really Good
Thanks for your Great opinions