[Q] OUYA USB Port Issues - Ouya Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got my kickstarter edition and was trying to sideload apps through usb port in ouya. At first when I plugged in the usb lights went on but nothing showed up on ouya. After fiddling the USB drive and pushing in a bit more, the drive showed up. I realised that any USB I try I have to insert it and fiddle it till it gets a connection and carefully leave it at that angle otherwise it wont detect.
Anyone else facing same issue?

igoforthebest said:
I just got my kickstarter edition and was trying to sideload apps through usb port in ouya. At first when I plugged in the usb lights went on but nothing showed up on ouya. After fiddling the USB drive and pushing in a bit more, the drive showed up. I realised that any USB I try I have to insert it and fiddle it till it gets a connection and carefully leave it at that angle otherwise it wont detect.
Anyone else facing same issue?
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Thats an interesting find, Ive been having a hard time getting the ouya to pick up my seagate backup plus 3tb. Its formatted to ntfs though Im not sure if android supports +2tb drives.

tennisbgc said:
Thats an interesting find, Ive been having a hard time getting the ouya to pick up my seagate backup plus 3tb. Its formatted to ntfs though Im not sure if android supports +2tb drives.
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All I tried so far is a FAT32 formatted 16gb USB drive and a USB keyboard. Will try out my 2tb hdd today and let you know if it picks up.

my usb kind of slip and slides out.
its not a tight fit at all, rather loose.

r_idn said:
my usb kind of slip and slides out.
its not a tight fit at all, rather loose.
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There have been quite a few HW issues (controllers, fan noise, USB, WiFi). People like us (xda folk) can tolerate some of these things, but this stuff is completely unacceptable to the general public. They need to fix this stuff.
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tennisbgc said:
Thats an interesting find, Ive been having a hard time getting the ouya to pick up my seagate backup plus 3tb. Its formatted to ntfs though Im not sure if android supports +2tb drives.
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android doesn't natively support ntfs in the first place. Samsung and a few other phone/tablet manufacturers add their own ntfs drivers but android on its own doesn't have them and the license for a company to add them is quite expensive (ntfs is patented and needs licensing from Microsoft) so I doubt the ouya has the drivers.
The usb issue sounds like a dodgy connection between the socket and motherboard, most likely a broken solder join (applying pressure as you are will cause further damage btw). An email to ouya support might be in order. Or if you are brave a quick session with a soldering iron should have it sorted easily.
Loose connector can also be fixed by applying pressure to the topside of the socket to bend it inwards but you can do more harm than good, an email might be an idea again.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
android doesn't natively support ntfs in the first place. Samsung and a few other phone/tablet manufacturers add their own ntfs drivers but android on its own doesn't have them and the license for a company to add them is quite expensive (ntfs is patented and needs licensing from Microsoft) so I doubt the ouya has the drivers.
The usb issue sounds like a dodgy connection between the socket and motherboard, most likely a broken solder join (applying pressure as you are will cause further damage btw). An email to ouya support might be in order. Or if you are brave a quick session with a soldering iron should have it sorted easily.
Loose connector can also be fixed by applying pressure to the topside of the socket to bend it inwards but you can do more harm than good, an email might be an idea again.
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So what file system other than fat32 does android support cause I was kinda annoyed when my ext3 drives didnt get recognized, I thought they would have drivers for them since its a linux format. So far I've been able to get fat32 and ntfs to work.

tennisbgc said:
So what file system other than fat32 does android support cause I was kinda annoyed when my ext3 drives didnt get recognized, I thought they would have drivers for them since its a linux format. So far I've been able to get fat32 and ntfs to work.
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That's where some of the advantages of custom kernels come in. They can add support for more filesystems
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mybook4 said:
That's where some of the advantages of custom kernels come in. They can add support for more filesystems
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wish I had the smarts to install one on the ouya

tennisbgc said:
wish I had the smarts to install one on the ouya
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We don't have a custom kernel yet. When we do, it's pretty straightforward to do in recovery.
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tennisbgc said:
So what file system other than fat32 does android support cause I was kinda annoyed when my ext3 drives didnt get recognized, I thought they would have drivers for them since its a linux format. So far I've been able to get fat32 and ntfs to work.
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FAT16? Thats pretty much it. Ext3 drives do work on android but I think some root + terminal usage is needed first. ExFat and NTFS are both patented so arent guaranteed to work on all devices unless the manufacturer has licensed the patent, technically custom roms adding support for these filesystems would be in violation of the law but I doubt M$ would bother chasing it up.

My usb port its working well. I bough an usb hub with 5 ports and also works too. Now i have connected 2 memory sticks, cable keyboard, cable mouse and 360 xbox controller
This usb hub doesnt need to be outpowered, the own usb port into ouya handles with it without problem

Does anyone know what exact steps I need to follow to get one of theese apps to work? I plan on rooting the ouya I just want to know what I would need to install. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwyLDYsImNvbS5rd3VsbC5udGZzbW91bnRlciJd https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwibmV0LnNoYWp1bC51c2JvdGciXQ.. and would these apps work in mounting ext3?

tennisbgc said:
Does anyone know what exact steps I need to follow to get one of theese apps to work? I plan on rooting the ouya I just want to know what I would need to install. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwyLDYsImNvbS5rd3VsbC5udGZzbW91bnRlciJd https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwibmV0LnNoYWp1bC51c2JvdGciXQ.. and would these apps work in mounting ext3?
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You don't need that app. From skimming the page I think ouya already does all of that out of the box. Read through the threads about file format compatibility.
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TadeoNYC said:
You don't need that app. From skimming the page I think ouya already does all of that out of the box. Read through the threads about file format compatibility.
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not ext3

tennisbgc said:
Thats an interesting find, Ive been having a hard time getting the ouya to pick up my seagate backup plus 3tb. Its formatted to ntfs though Im not sure if android supports +2tb drives.
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I have my 2TB NTFS drive running properly on my ouya but you need 2 things to make it work.
First you have to root your ouya second you need an app called "stickmount".
There are other apps that should work but stickmount works great for me.

ineedaname said:
I have my 2TB NTFS drive running properly on my ouya but you need 2 things to make it work.
First you have to root your ouya second you need an app called "stickmount".
There are other apps that should work but stickmount works great for me.
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yeah I can get up to 2tb working fine with ouya just not above that. Not sure if android is cappable of mounting 3tb+ drives

USB Fix
Hi, I'm not sure how common this problem is. but, here's what fixed me.
First off I emailed OUYA support:
They replied to update firmware and test with wired mouse at "play" screen. at that point if the mouse does not work, you have verified there is a problem with the port itself.
Their next suggestion was to return it to the store where I bought it.
So, Naturally, I took it apart:
BEFORE YOU CONTINUE:: look at the usb port on your assembled console. inside you will see 2 prongs along the inside. they provide the required tension to keep good contact on the 4 usb connections and serve as a ground. Try using a small exacto knife, screw driver, or even a toothpick to bend them in a tiny bit. you want it feel snug when you inset a usb device. Not Tight, you shouldn't have to force it, but it shouldn't feel loose.
IF THAT FIXED YOUR PROBLEM:: then... go have fun! otherwise, read on.
SIDENOTE:: you might want to mark/note the orientation of the the console lid before removing, it's not overly obvious which way it goes on at reassembly.
The USB is part of a USB HDMI unijack, soldered onto the board.
SIDENOTE:: The board is grounded to the frame via a stamped metal prong that acts like a latch preventing you from removing the board. Do yourself a favor, use flashlight, don't break the prong.
Once, you have it out the solder joints you are concerned with are the 4 larger ones in a row (not the 4 that ground the housing of the unijack)
After re-soldering those 4 I can use a 16GB ntfs no problem.

None of my USB Storage Drives would work! My PSx Controller did though.
It required a Factory Reset. Now all my drives are working as they should.
There is a FAT32 format tool posted over in the Ouya Forums:
http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?3589-Formatting-Hard-Drive-to-FAT32&p=35834&viewfull=1#post35834
Format your drive using that tool. If that doesn't work, Factory Reset and try again.

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EVO as a USB Host?

Hey guys, i don't know if this has been addressed before or not. Is it possible to use the Evo as a USB Host, that is to say, (in my case) connect my DSLR to my Evo and download pictures so i can upload them to tumblr etc or flash drives to get files etc.
or am i just shooting in the dark here?
Possible (check)
Would help if you were well-versed in the art of Linux and mounting
indeed. but sadly, i am not. but! i am willing to donate to a helpful soul that is!
SilverStone641 said:
indeed. but sadly, i am not. but! i am willing to donate to a helpful soul that is!
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Heres your best bet.
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
It's for the nexus on froyo but it could still work
If I had the right cable i'd test it for you.
This oughta work too
http://jkontherun.com/2010/02/17/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/
that looks like it'll work for keyboard or other INPUT devices, but would it work with external storage?
SilverStone641 said:
that looks like it'll work for keyboard or other INPUT devices, but would it work with external storage?
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are you kidding me? youre a senior member, read a bit, perhaps scroll down the page.
USB storage
insmod drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko
# Wait for device enumeration
mount -t vfat /dev/block/sda1 /mnt/sdcard/usb-storage
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do you have a cable to even connect the two? micro to mini (if its a canon/nikon, if im not mistaken) micro to micro (pentax), beause else you'll need a powered hub according to the first link posted.
I just thought to start researching the status of otg usb and usb host mode on the evo. And to my surprise this is the only crappy thread I've come across. I cannot find an anwser as to if the evo has the hardware to support it. I know that the n1 droid and maybe the incredible support usb host mode even if u need a single its still something I want to know. I would drool over connecting usb flash drives, keyboards, game controllers etc to my evo. Someone else please show interest in this.
i concur. i'd love to be able to plug my ipod/DSLR/flash drive into my phone to upload/download files. i'd be willing to donate to make this happen
The list is endless... MIDI Controllers, extra screens, ethernet, fingerprint reader, wtvr.
Just got the cable today. Checking out these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696446
...links and trying things now...
thanks for the pointers. I'm running cyanogen nightly 8-1... so far, i get:
D/Tethering( 102): interfaceAdded :usb0
from logcat when i plug my hacked (routed dc+ voltage from a nearby
+5v pin to the upstream cable red wire) powered usb hub into this OTG cable.
The EVO charges when i have it all plugged in as well...
Looks like they have this working on the Desire HD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993152
It's a similar device to the Evo, so maybe there is hope for the Evo to get it?
would like to bring this one back I just got a program called DSL controller it says my phone wont do usb host. Not sure if there is a kernel I need or if there is a ROM I can run etc.
I just ordered the cable I need for my phone and camera. So if anyone knows of a ROM that may do this please advise.
Any one try this yet? Do not want to spend the money till I see some one had it working
I too desperately wanted this to work... After buying the host-mode cable, trying various methods to allow "host-mode" on the evo, and trying a bazillion different combinations of settings - the DSLR controller software *always* gives me a "your device does not support USB host mode" error. I'm afraid this is dead in the water. DSLR Controller does, however, work nicely on my Asus Transformer tablet

Anyway to connect a hard drive?

I've searched all over, because a while back I thought I seen a post somewhere about hooking up external usb devices to the phone, but I can't find it anymore. Is there an adapter or special cord that will allow you to hook up your DINC 2 to an external hard drive?
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It would be nice if there was also a way to plug a flashdrive into the charger connection on the side of the phone and be able to read from that. People could have special collections of apps and roms that could be shared with friends by simply letting them plug in your flash drive. I honestly don't understand why this hasn't been an option. why couldnt a flash drive be pluged into one of these adapters (http://www.google.com/products/cata...=X&ei=PRh6Ts68OqrQiAKClK3JDw&ved=0CL0BEPMCMAM). from here it would just be a matter of the phone being able to read the information off the flashdrive, which im sure some developers could find a way..
As far as I know, the main issue is whether or not the USB port supports a USB host function. It's similar to the concept of a computer being able to support high-def video but not having an HDMI-out port through which to broadcast the signal. Then the second hurdle to jump over is whether or not a USB Host Stack has been written/and or provided in the software. That's where a dev would be able to write a stack (not very easy) for the phone.
Here's a little reading on the subject.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/host.html
lightninjay said:
As far as I know, the main issue is whether or not the USB port supports a USB host function. It's similar to the concept of a computer being able to support high-def video but not having an HDMI-out port through which to broadcast the signal. Then the second hurdle to jump over is whether or not a USB Host Stack has been written/and or provided in the software. That's where a dev would be able to write a stack (not very easy) for the phone.
Here's a little reading on the subject.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/host.html
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That is some good reading.. Heres some more I found about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751535
Maybe I should have read this when I haven't been drinking. I might understand a little better. But it sounds like a lot of work. I would be willing to donate like 50 bucks if someone could get this working for the DINC2 and my external hard drive.
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'twould be cool
This would be very cool. I hope that someone can do something with this. I'd be willing to donate to the cause
I found something that might work, I haven't got it to work myself though.
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I was intrigued and googled your image. Found and installed USB Host Controller but it said the phone does not have the OTG or HOST driver installed. On the app page it links to Nexus One USB Host project page saying Snapdragon/HTC supported kernels can be found there or something along that nature. From what I can gather it would need to be added into a kernel something which I have no idea how to do. Also, it sounds like ICS will support this feature by default so I doubt the devs will go out of their way to implement it. One can always dream though . Hope that helps!
Then what happened?
why not just toggle USB mode and use your computer as a "External" HDD.........
danielholm said:
Then what happened?
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Absolutely nothing. It was a failed attempt.
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dets34 said:
why not just toggle USB mode and use your computer as a "External" HDD.........
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Because at the time, my computer took a dump and no longer worked. But I recently got a new one.
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Yea who doesn't want to lug around an external hardrive? The chicks dig the extra space
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USB Host Not Working

Hi guys. So the only thing I've done to my i747 is root it. I've tried both of the USB host apps in the market (USB Host Controller and StickMount) as well as the "SGS3-Easy-UMS" apk that's around, v1.2beta2 and v1.3beta. Can't attach any USB devices. All my flash drives are FAT32 and work well normally. I even ran the USB Host Diagnostics app and it confirmed that Android API, Rooted API, and Kernel "claim support" but no device is detected.
When I connect to sync, I can only do MTP transfers. This is why I looked into that EasyUMS apk because it apparently also allows to mount the phone on the PC as a USB Mass Storage device. During my search I see numerous people connecting flash drives, controllers, keyboards, and even a USB HDD to their sgs3's.
Because that apk requires busybox, and I have busybox, everything looked OK. However, I did once get an error from that APK about possible non-existant Kernel support. USB Host Diags disagree, as do many video tutorials.
Basically I'd like to know whether or not this is supposed to be working, and if not, then how do I go about making it work? I'd like to mount flash drives for easier use with Linux, and would like to mount the phone as UMS for the same reason. I would also like to use a USB Keyboard as well as a USB gamepad. Am I missing something? Are they all using the international?
Are you using a USB OTG cable?
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drothenberger said:
Are you using a USB OTG cable?
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got this one, a couple good reviews confirmed that it works with input devices: Amazon product# B005GI2VMG
i mean it's very possible that the seller just buys from random manufacturers without changing the listing. this one that i have is like the cheapest thing on the market so that may be the problem. i wouldn't mind trying a different one for <$5 w/ US shipping if that exists (recommendations?).
Same cable didn't work for me
I bought the same cable, but from a different seller. Amazon ID number B005N55WHI
And I have the same problem. Tried using it with several input devices and with several different roms and I couldn't make it work. Could it be a power issue? Does the USB device that it is being hooked up to have to be powered? I tried it with mice, keyboards, and flash drives, but all of those devices take their power from the bus, not an external source.
glad you posted. hmm. since we both have the same thing and they're both not working, i'm suspecting it's indeed the cable.
i read on a review of a different cable on Amazon where the guy cut open the connector and found no wire connected to one of the pins. i've had thinner-cable wires before that charged/transferred slower than others or didn't work at all on some higher-end devices, could really just be a cheap-out on the manufacturer's end.
i think i'd like to get a different cable. if anyone can recommend an inexpensive one that's confirmed working i'd appreciate it. so i don't have to shoot in the dark.
I got the one with Amazon ID B00871Q5PI and it worked for me. I tried a Dell USB keyboard, a USB mouse, and a USB DAC and they all worked. All take power from the bus.
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got this one.... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
would it make a difference if it says its for the galaxy s2 and not the s3? im guessing thats why i cant get it to work.
vvelvetelvis said:
got this one.... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
would it make a difference if it says its for the galaxy s2 and not the s3? im guessing thats why i cant get it to work.
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No, would not make a difference. USB OTG is a standard and for now all devices that have USB OTG work with all USB OTG cables. I've used a cheapass one from Ebay with my S2/Note/S3 for more than a year now.
solved for me
so i got the one drothenberger got (actually that particular link was out of stock for the seller so i got the other suggested one that looks exactly the same, title OTG for SGS3 - item# B00871Q5PI) and i'm in business!!!
someone replied to my negative review of the other one i got in the comments and they said theirs worked. i think they just have different products under the same label or lots of defective ones. i'd recommend to just get the ones that specifically say OTG for SGS3 - the extra dollar or whatever is worth it to save the trouble.
thanks again to everyone for the troubleshooting, hope this topic helps others resolve their issues.

Extenal Storage

While the Kindle Fire does not have a USB port, there are dongle's like this one that convert Micro USB to regular USB which in theory should allow for support of USB devices. My question is USB storage supported on the Fire?
Im using APKP Milestone 6
Hm, at would depend on whether or not that cable is an otg host cable. If it is, the wring is slightly different, which tells the fire to go into mastemode rather than the usual slave mode.
Another thing is that the software needs to support it. I'm pretty sure the stock ROM does not have this feature, however a great little ROM called GedeROM does have limited support. There have been reported cases of external storage working, however some drives refuse to work. Do some googling and find a drive that does work and buy that one, if you haven't bought one already.
jji7skyline said:
Hm, at would depend on whether or not that cable is an otg host cable. If it is, the wring is slightly different, which tells the fire to go into mastemode rather than the usual slave mode.
Another thing is that the software needs to support it. I'm pretty sure the stock ROM does not have this feature, however a great little ROM called GedeROM does have limited support. There have been reported cases of external storage working, however some drives refuse to work. Do some googling and find a drive that does work and buy that one, if you haven't bought one already.
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I actually already bought one. Only a dollar do nothing much to loose. Will see if it works.

[Q] AFTV USB Storage issue *SOLVED*

Anyone had issues using a usb stick?
Trying to free up space by moving apps but box does not seem to acknowledge it being connected. Cheapo 16GB stick. works fine in my PC and on phone and tab using OTG cable. Has been formated. Deleted all partitions, created new primary, then formated again. Still nothing?
Just called Amazon Cust Services who took details to pass to tech support who will contact me within 48 hours.
Any ideas folks?
wileykat said:
Anyone had issues using a usb stick?
Trying to free up space by moving apps but box does not seem to acknowledge it being connected. Cheapo 16GB stick. works fine in my PC and on phone and tab using OTG cable. Has been formated. Deleted all partitions, created new primary, then formated again. Still nothing?
Just called Amazon Cust Services who took details to pass to tech support who will contact me within 48 hours.
Any ideas folks?
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Not sure. But USB 3.0 flash drives are getting pretty cheap. You can pick up a 32gb sandisk ultra for about 15 bucks at Walmart or 16 for $10. If you don't mind waiting, I'm sure you could find them even cheaper online.
Its not really a solution but the faster the better. Have you done any basic trouble shooting? Maybe remove it then reinsert and wait a couple of minutes? Reboot with USB in, reboot without then insert...if using a hub try it without.
I haven't had any issues but I'd be surprised if aftv mounted every flash drive on the market. That's rarely the case on other devices. Good luck.
*I don't think the format matters. Aftv should automatically format and prepare the drive.
KLit75 said:
Not sure. But USB 3.0 flash drives are getting pretty cheap. You can pick up a 32gb sandisk ultra for about 15 bucks at Walmart or 16 for $10. If you don't mind waiting, I'm sure you could find them even cheaper online.
Its not really a solution but the faster the better. Have you done any basic trouble shooting? Maybe remove it then reinsert and wait a couple of minutes? Reboot with USB in, reboot without then insert...if using a hub try it without.
I haven't had any issues but I'd be surprised if aftv mounted every flash drive on the market. That's rarely the case on other devices. Good luck.
*I don't think the format matters. Aftv should automatically format and prepare the drive.
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Thank you for your time pal. Had done reboots but not with USB in or checking if makes a diff plugging in when off then turning on. Thank you for that will give it a go.
wileykat said:
Anyone had issues using a usb stick?
Trying to free up space by moving apps but box does not seem to acknowledge it being connected. Cheapo 16GB stick. works fine in my PC and on phone and tab using OTG cable. Has been formated. Deleted all partitions, created new primary, then formated again. Still nothing?
Just called Amazon Cust Services who took details to pass to tech support who will contact me within 48 hours.
Any ideas folks?
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You may want to check in Developer options. I think if you have ADB Debugging or Unknown Sources (can't remember which one) enabled it won't recognize the usb port. At least that was the case with the latest firmware.
BOOM!!!!! Solved. Turned all dev options off and it recognised it straight away. Will check them one by one later on. Thank you good sir!!!!
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