While the Kindle Fire does not have a USB port, there are dongle's like this one that convert Micro USB to regular USB which in theory should allow for support of USB devices. My question is USB storage supported on the Fire?
Im using APKP Milestone 6
Hm, at would depend on whether or not that cable is an otg host cable. If it is, the wring is slightly different, which tells the fire to go into mastemode rather than the usual slave mode.
Another thing is that the software needs to support it. I'm pretty sure the stock ROM does not have this feature, however a great little ROM called GedeROM does have limited support. There have been reported cases of external storage working, however some drives refuse to work. Do some googling and find a drive that does work and buy that one, if you haven't bought one already.
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Hm, at would depend on whether or not that cable is an otg host cable. If it is, the wring is slightly different, which tells the fire to go into mastemode rather than the usual slave mode.
Another thing is that the software needs to support it. I'm pretty sure the stock ROM does not have this feature, however a great little ROM called GedeROM does have limited support. There have been reported cases of external storage working, however some drives refuse to work. Do some googling and find a drive that does work and buy that one, if you haven't bought one already.
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I actually already bought one. Only a dollar do nothing much to loose. Will see if it works.
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Hey guys, i don't know if this has been addressed before or not. Is it possible to use the Evo as a USB Host, that is to say, (in my case) connect my DSLR to my Evo and download pictures so i can upload them to tumblr etc or flash drives to get files etc.
or am i just shooting in the dark here?
Possible (check)
Would help if you were well-versed in the art of Linux and mounting
indeed. but sadly, i am not. but! i am willing to donate to a helpful soul that is!
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indeed. but sadly, i am not. but! i am willing to donate to a helpful soul that is!
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Heres your best bet.
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
It's for the nexus on froyo but it could still work
If I had the right cable i'd test it for you.
This oughta work too
http://jkontherun.com/2010/02/17/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/
that looks like it'll work for keyboard or other INPUT devices, but would it work with external storage?
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that looks like it'll work for keyboard or other INPUT devices, but would it work with external storage?
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are you kidding me? youre a senior member, read a bit, perhaps scroll down the page.
USB storage
insmod drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko
# Wait for device enumeration
mount -t vfat /dev/block/sda1 /mnt/sdcard/usb-storage
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do you have a cable to even connect the two? micro to mini (if its a canon/nikon, if im not mistaken) micro to micro (pentax), beause else you'll need a powered hub according to the first link posted.
I just thought to start researching the status of otg usb and usb host mode on the evo. And to my surprise this is the only crappy thread I've come across. I cannot find an anwser as to if the evo has the hardware to support it. I know that the n1 droid and maybe the incredible support usb host mode even if u need a single its still something I want to know. I would drool over connecting usb flash drives, keyboards, game controllers etc to my evo. Someone else please show interest in this.
i concur. i'd love to be able to plug my ipod/DSLR/flash drive into my phone to upload/download files. i'd be willing to donate to make this happen
The list is endless... MIDI Controllers, extra screens, ethernet, fingerprint reader, wtvr.
Just got the cable today. Checking out these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696446
...links and trying things now...
thanks for the pointers. I'm running cyanogen nightly 8-1... so far, i get:
D/Tethering( 102): interfaceAdded :usb0
from logcat when i plug my hacked (routed dc+ voltage from a nearby
+5v pin to the upstream cable red wire) powered usb hub into this OTG cable.
The EVO charges when i have it all plugged in as well...
Looks like they have this working on the Desire HD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993152
It's a similar device to the Evo, so maybe there is hope for the Evo to get it?
would like to bring this one back I just got a program called DSL controller it says my phone wont do usb host. Not sure if there is a kernel I need or if there is a ROM I can run etc.
I just ordered the cable I need for my phone and camera. So if anyone knows of a ROM that may do this please advise.
Any one try this yet? Do not want to spend the money till I see some one had it working
I too desperately wanted this to work... After buying the host-mode cable, trying various methods to allow "host-mode" on the evo, and trying a bazillion different combinations of settings - the DSLR controller software *always* gives me a "your device does not support USB host mode" error. I'm afraid this is dead in the water. DSLR Controller does, however, work nicely on my Asus Transformer tablet
I've searched all over, because a while back I thought I seen a post somewhere about hooking up external usb devices to the phone, but I can't find it anymore. Is there an adapter or special cord that will allow you to hook up your DINC 2 to an external hard drive?
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It would be nice if there was also a way to plug a flashdrive into the charger connection on the side of the phone and be able to read from that. People could have special collections of apps and roms that could be shared with friends by simply letting them plug in your flash drive. I honestly don't understand why this hasn't been an option. why couldnt a flash drive be pluged into one of these adapters (http://www.google.com/products/cata...=X&ei=PRh6Ts68OqrQiAKClK3JDw&ved=0CL0BEPMCMAM). from here it would just be a matter of the phone being able to read the information off the flashdrive, which im sure some developers could find a way..
As far as I know, the main issue is whether or not the USB port supports a USB host function. It's similar to the concept of a computer being able to support high-def video but not having an HDMI-out port through which to broadcast the signal. Then the second hurdle to jump over is whether or not a USB Host Stack has been written/and or provided in the software. That's where a dev would be able to write a stack (not very easy) for the phone.
Here's a little reading on the subject.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/host.html
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As far as I know, the main issue is whether or not the USB port supports a USB host function. It's similar to the concept of a computer being able to support high-def video but not having an HDMI-out port through which to broadcast the signal. Then the second hurdle to jump over is whether or not a USB Host Stack has been written/and or provided in the software. That's where a dev would be able to write a stack (not very easy) for the phone.
Here's a little reading on the subject.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/host.html
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That is some good reading.. Heres some more I found about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751535
Maybe I should have read this when I haven't been drinking. I might understand a little better. But it sounds like a lot of work. I would be willing to donate like 50 bucks if someone could get this working for the DINC2 and my external hard drive.
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'twould be cool
This would be very cool. I hope that someone can do something with this. I'd be willing to donate to the cause
I found something that might work, I haven't got it to work myself though.
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I was intrigued and googled your image. Found and installed USB Host Controller but it said the phone does not have the OTG or HOST driver installed. On the app page it links to Nexus One USB Host project page saying Snapdragon/HTC supported kernels can be found there or something along that nature. From what I can gather it would need to be added into a kernel something which I have no idea how to do. Also, it sounds like ICS will support this feature by default so I doubt the devs will go out of their way to implement it. One can always dream though . Hope that helps!
Then what happened?
why not just toggle USB mode and use your computer as a "External" HDD.........
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Then what happened?
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Absolutely nothing. It was a failed attempt.
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why not just toggle USB mode and use your computer as a "External" HDD.........
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Because at the time, my computer took a dump and no longer worked. But I recently got a new one.
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Yea who doesn't want to lug around an external hardrive? The chicks dig the extra space
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Hi guys. So the only thing I've done to my i747 is root it. I've tried both of the USB host apps in the market (USB Host Controller and StickMount) as well as the "SGS3-Easy-UMS" apk that's around, v1.2beta2 and v1.3beta. Can't attach any USB devices. All my flash drives are FAT32 and work well normally. I even ran the USB Host Diagnostics app and it confirmed that Android API, Rooted API, and Kernel "claim support" but no device is detected.
When I connect to sync, I can only do MTP transfers. This is why I looked into that EasyUMS apk because it apparently also allows to mount the phone on the PC as a USB Mass Storage device. During my search I see numerous people connecting flash drives, controllers, keyboards, and even a USB HDD to their sgs3's.
Because that apk requires busybox, and I have busybox, everything looked OK. However, I did once get an error from that APK about possible non-existant Kernel support. USB Host Diags disagree, as do many video tutorials.
Basically I'd like to know whether or not this is supposed to be working, and if not, then how do I go about making it work? I'd like to mount flash drives for easier use with Linux, and would like to mount the phone as UMS for the same reason. I would also like to use a USB Keyboard as well as a USB gamepad. Am I missing something? Are they all using the international?
Are you using a USB OTG cable?
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Are you using a USB OTG cable?
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got this one, a couple good reviews confirmed that it works with input devices: Amazon product# B005GI2VMG
i mean it's very possible that the seller just buys from random manufacturers without changing the listing. this one that i have is like the cheapest thing on the market so that may be the problem. i wouldn't mind trying a different one for <$5 w/ US shipping if that exists (recommendations?).
Same cable didn't work for me
I bought the same cable, but from a different seller. Amazon ID number B005N55WHI
And I have the same problem. Tried using it with several input devices and with several different roms and I couldn't make it work. Could it be a power issue? Does the USB device that it is being hooked up to have to be powered? I tried it with mice, keyboards, and flash drives, but all of those devices take their power from the bus, not an external source.
glad you posted. hmm. since we both have the same thing and they're both not working, i'm suspecting it's indeed the cable.
i read on a review of a different cable on Amazon where the guy cut open the connector and found no wire connected to one of the pins. i've had thinner-cable wires before that charged/transferred slower than others or didn't work at all on some higher-end devices, could really just be a cheap-out on the manufacturer's end.
i think i'd like to get a different cable. if anyone can recommend an inexpensive one that's confirmed working i'd appreciate it. so i don't have to shoot in the dark.
I got the one with Amazon ID B00871Q5PI and it worked for me. I tried a Dell USB keyboard, a USB mouse, and a USB DAC and they all worked. All take power from the bus.
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got this one.... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
would it make a difference if it says its for the galaxy s2 and not the s3? im guessing thats why i cant get it to work.
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got this one.... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
would it make a difference if it says its for the galaxy s2 and not the s3? im guessing thats why i cant get it to work.
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No, would not make a difference. USB OTG is a standard and for now all devices that have USB OTG work with all USB OTG cables. I've used a cheapass one from Ebay with my S2/Note/S3 for more than a year now.
solved for me
so i got the one drothenberger got (actually that particular link was out of stock for the seller so i got the other suggested one that looks exactly the same, title OTG for SGS3 - item# B00871Q5PI) and i'm in business!!!
someone replied to my negative review of the other one i got in the comments and they said theirs worked. i think they just have different products under the same label or lots of defective ones. i'd recommend to just get the ones that specifically say OTG for SGS3 - the extra dollar or whatever is worth it to save the trouble.
thanks again to everyone for the troubleshooting, hope this topic helps others resolve their issues.
My buddy is leaving for military overseas and just got kindle fire...not new one..he also got exteral hard drive. He wanted me to load up the hard drive with a bunch of movies i have for him to watch. Do i have to root the fire for it to read the hard drive? I have no problem rooting since i do it with all my phones and tablets. Ive seen stuff that involves having a OTG cable...im going to assume thats mandatory. What roms support the feature? Can you buy one of those cables at best buy or only online? Thanks for any help
I am not sure if this can be done, from what i have read a few topics on this in numerous places and nobody has had success with an actual external hard drive. Of course for it to even be possible you would need an adapter and there is still no way that i have found to make the Kindle to be able to read the content on the external drive to make it usable on the kindle. If it is i would also like to know how because the 6ish GB that are made available besides the cloud drive are quite small and can run low real fast.
Only one way to find out
I KNOW there is support for usb OTG for the kindle. What ROM to run? I have no idea. I know that you need at least Hashcode's 3.x kernel for it to work. twa_priv has a ROM that has that, is regularly updated, and has a lot of bonus features too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778010. I a currently running it. I have an OTG cable, but I have lost all my usb drives. I have heard that it works with mice and keyboards, but haven't gotten any success with those.
I have this installed: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.sztupy.android.usbhostcontroller
i don't know if you need it or not, but i think you do.
Hi all, ive gave up on the slim chance that there might be a BT chip inside the kindle fire 2. With the release of custom ROMs on our device, is it now possible to get bluetooth working via otg cable? I have a micro BT usb an was wanting to use it for ps3 compatibility so i can play ps1 roms etc wirelessly. I know you can connect a 360 controller cablde to the kindle but imn looking for wireless connectivity.
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Hi all, ive gave up on the slim chance that there might be a BT chip inside the kindle fire 2. With the release of custom ROMs on our device, is it now possible to get bluetooth working via otg cable? I have a micro BT usb an was wanting to use it for ps3 compatibility so i can play ps1 roms etc wirelessly. I know you can connect a 360 controller cablde to the kindle but imn looking for wireless connectivity.
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I wasn't going to answer because I'm not a dev....but was curious so looked up some stuff.
From what I can see....I can't find anyone doing that, ever. Yet I see a LOT of people saying "No, not possible unless you get a custom ROM" yet....I haven't found anyone that has actually done this!
Not sure why, although since we have devs I will be curious to see their response. No idea why I can't find a SINGLE post of anyone doing it, yet I also haven't seen anyone that has flat out said no, only that you will need a custom ROM.
If we do get it working, it would probably be one of the first times someone has done bluetooth via OTG. If you can find anyone that has done it before though, that may help out.
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I wasn't going to answer because I'm not a dev....but was curious so looked up some stuff.
From what I can see....I can't find anyone doing that, ever. Yet I see a LOT of people saying "No, not possible unless you get a custom ROM" yet....I haven't found anyone that has actually done this!
Not sure why, although since we have devs I will be curious to see their response. No idea why I can't find a SINGLE post of anyone doing it, yet I also haven't seen anyone that has flat out said no, only that you will need a custom ROM.
If we do get it working, it would probably be one of the first times someone has done bluetooth via OTG. If you can find anyone that has done it before though, that may help out.
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You can't really call it bluetoothe can you? if you use a wired soulotion it is a wireless protocol.
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You can't really call it bluetoothe can you? if you use a wired soulotion it is a wireless protocol.
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Just a usb bluetooth dongle. And, this is most likely never going to work on our device. We don't support usb host...
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Just a usb bluetooth dongle. And, this is most likely never going to work on our device. We don't support usb host...
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I seen on the kf1 forum that they have USB host to control a flash drive, Is it different to adding a BT adapter? Obviously you would need drivers for the specific BT adapter you were using
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Not if u use a micro BT adapter an rip it apart and solder it to USB internally.
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I seen on the kf1 forum that they have USB host to control a flash drive, Is it different to adding a BT adapter? Obviously you would need drivers for the specific BT adapter you were using
Not if u use a micro BT adapter an rip it apart and solder it to USB internally.
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They use powered hubs... our device wouldn't power the dongle, and you might fry it if you tried to hard wire it into the battery
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They use powered hubs... our device wouldn't power the dongle, and you might fry it if you tried to hard wire it into the battery
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well my plan was to buy a usb dongle, cheap ofcourse, put an external power supply, i.e 5v supply if i cant get one. for talking sakes lets say i use a battery ( i know voltage etc are not same as 5v supplied by normal usb ports) hook red + on battery, black to negative on the battery and add a switch so i can switch it on and off, so the only thing i would then need to take would be the data coming from the kindle itself. From what i can gather cm10 has bluetooth dongle support, if so then it would just be a case of an app looking at usb instead of internal bluetooth. Please correct me if i am wrong ( which i am pretty sure i am ). This is one feature which has let the kf2 down for me. All the others i can live with, even if i only had stock rom and it had bluettoth connectivity, it would be better for me. I hate having ideas but not being able to do anything about it so any advice, tips or reasons as to why it will not work is all good
While im on, does anyone have a kf2 with custom rom, a powered usb hub, an otg cable, a bluetooth dongle and a spare ten mins to check if the dongle is recognised by the kf?
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While im on, does anyone have a kf2 with custom rom, a powered usb hub, an otg cable, a bluetooth dongle and a spare ten mins to check if the dongle is recognised by the kf?
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Sorry to revive this, but I have a kindle fire 2, rooted with the official cyanogenmod jellybean. I'm later going to order a bluetooth dongle and I already have a powered hub. Being a college student I have a lot of spare time to this sorta thing. I'll check back later if there are replies or if i have done it and have results.
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Although some people on this thread have already said that bluetooth doesn't work without a powered hub, you can find videos demonstrating it without a powered hub. I'll also test this later.
Cm10 + otg + bt dongle = works!
I recently about an Onda V973 specifically so that I can load CM onto it but was disappointed that BT wasn't built-in. So I got an OTG cable and a cheap dongle. At first the connection didn't work but after a reboot CM was able to load the drivers for the dongle. Works great! :good:
I am 99% sure Kindle Fire does not have a bluetooth chip. I tried it myself on CM10.2, 10.1, and it doesn't activate. The modem does not have this feature.
It would be interesting to try and mod the tablet that way, though.