Hi all, ive gave up on the slim chance that there might be a BT chip inside the kindle fire 2. With the release of custom ROMs on our device, is it now possible to get bluetooth working via otg cable? I have a micro BT usb an was wanting to use it for ps3 compatibility so i can play ps1 roms etc wirelessly. I know you can connect a 360 controller cablde to the kindle but imn looking for wireless connectivity.
willieboya said:
Hi all, ive gave up on the slim chance that there might be a BT chip inside the kindle fire 2. With the release of custom ROMs on our device, is it now possible to get bluetooth working via otg cable? I have a micro BT usb an was wanting to use it for ps3 compatibility so i can play ps1 roms etc wirelessly. I know you can connect a 360 controller cablde to the kindle but imn looking for wireless connectivity.
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I wasn't going to answer because I'm not a dev....but was curious so looked up some stuff.
From what I can see....I can't find anyone doing that, ever. Yet I see a LOT of people saying "No, not possible unless you get a custom ROM" yet....I haven't found anyone that has actually done this!
Not sure why, although since we have devs I will be curious to see their response. No idea why I can't find a SINGLE post of anyone doing it, yet I also haven't seen anyone that has flat out said no, only that you will need a custom ROM.
If we do get it working, it would probably be one of the first times someone has done bluetooth via OTG. If you can find anyone that has done it before though, that may help out.
iytrix said:
I wasn't going to answer because I'm not a dev....but was curious so looked up some stuff.
From what I can see....I can't find anyone doing that, ever. Yet I see a LOT of people saying "No, not possible unless you get a custom ROM" yet....I haven't found anyone that has actually done this!
Not sure why, although since we have devs I will be curious to see their response. No idea why I can't find a SINGLE post of anyone doing it, yet I also haven't seen anyone that has flat out said no, only that you will need a custom ROM.
If we do get it working, it would probably be one of the first times someone has done bluetooth via OTG. If you can find anyone that has done it before though, that may help out.
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You can't really call it bluetoothe can you? if you use a wired soulotion it is a wireless protocol.
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You can't really call it bluetoothe can you? if you use a wired soulotion it is a wireless protocol.
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Just a usb bluetooth dongle. And, this is most likely never going to work on our device. We don't support usb host...
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Just a usb bluetooth dongle. And, this is most likely never going to work on our device. We don't support usb host...
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I seen on the kf1 forum that they have USB host to control a flash drive, Is it different to adding a BT adapter? Obviously you would need drivers for the specific BT adapter you were using
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You can't really call it bluetoothe can you? if you use a wired soulotion it is a wireless protocol.
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Not if u use a micro BT adapter an rip it apart and solder it to USB internally.
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I seen on the kf1 forum that they have USB host to control a flash drive, Is it different to adding a BT adapter? Obviously you would need drivers for the specific BT adapter you were using
Not if u use a micro BT adapter an rip it apart and solder it to USB internally.
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They use powered hubs... our device wouldn't power the dongle, and you might fry it if you tried to hard wire it into the battery
FMKilo @ forum.xda-developers
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They use powered hubs... our device wouldn't power the dongle, and you might fry it if you tried to hard wire it into the battery
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well my plan was to buy a usb dongle, cheap ofcourse, put an external power supply, i.e 5v supply if i cant get one. for talking sakes lets say i use a battery ( i know voltage etc are not same as 5v supplied by normal usb ports) hook red + on battery, black to negative on the battery and add a switch so i can switch it on and off, so the only thing i would then need to take would be the data coming from the kindle itself. From what i can gather cm10 has bluetooth dongle support, if so then it would just be a case of an app looking at usb instead of internal bluetooth. Please correct me if i am wrong ( which i am pretty sure i am ). This is one feature which has let the kf2 down for me. All the others i can live with, even if i only had stock rom and it had bluettoth connectivity, it would be better for me. I hate having ideas but not being able to do anything about it so any advice, tips or reasons as to why it will not work is all good
While im on, does anyone have a kf2 with custom rom, a powered usb hub, an otg cable, a bluetooth dongle and a spare ten mins to check if the dongle is recognised by the kf?
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While im on, does anyone have a kf2 with custom rom, a powered usb hub, an otg cable, a bluetooth dongle and a spare ten mins to check if the dongle is recognised by the kf?
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Sorry to revive this, but I have a kindle fire 2, rooted with the official cyanogenmod jellybean. I'm later going to order a bluetooth dongle and I already have a powered hub. Being a college student I have a lot of spare time to this sorta thing. I'll check back later if there are replies or if i have done it and have results.
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Although some people on this thread have already said that bluetooth doesn't work without a powered hub, you can find videos demonstrating it without a powered hub. I'll also test this later.
Cm10 + otg + bt dongle = works!
I recently about an Onda V973 specifically so that I can load CM onto it but was disappointed that BT wasn't built-in. So I got an OTG cable and a cheap dongle. At first the connection didn't work but after a reboot CM was able to load the drivers for the dongle. Works great! :good:
I am 99% sure Kindle Fire does not have a bluetooth chip. I tried it myself on CM10.2, 10.1, and it doesn't activate. The modem does not have this feature.
It would be interesting to try and mod the tablet that way, though.
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Hey guys, i don't know if this has been addressed before or not. Is it possible to use the Evo as a USB Host, that is to say, (in my case) connect my DSLR to my Evo and download pictures so i can upload them to tumblr etc or flash drives to get files etc.
or am i just shooting in the dark here?
Possible (check)
Would help if you were well-versed in the art of Linux and mounting
indeed. but sadly, i am not. but! i am willing to donate to a helpful soul that is!
SilverStone641 said:
indeed. but sadly, i am not. but! i am willing to donate to a helpful soul that is!
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Heres your best bet.
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
It's for the nexus on froyo but it could still work
If I had the right cable i'd test it for you.
This oughta work too
http://jkontherun.com/2010/02/17/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/
that looks like it'll work for keyboard or other INPUT devices, but would it work with external storage?
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that looks like it'll work for keyboard or other INPUT devices, but would it work with external storage?
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are you kidding me? youre a senior member, read a bit, perhaps scroll down the page.
USB storage
insmod drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko
# Wait for device enumeration
mount -t vfat /dev/block/sda1 /mnt/sdcard/usb-storage
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do you have a cable to even connect the two? micro to mini (if its a canon/nikon, if im not mistaken) micro to micro (pentax), beause else you'll need a powered hub according to the first link posted.
I just thought to start researching the status of otg usb and usb host mode on the evo. And to my surprise this is the only crappy thread I've come across. I cannot find an anwser as to if the evo has the hardware to support it. I know that the n1 droid and maybe the incredible support usb host mode even if u need a single its still something I want to know. I would drool over connecting usb flash drives, keyboards, game controllers etc to my evo. Someone else please show interest in this.
i concur. i'd love to be able to plug my ipod/DSLR/flash drive into my phone to upload/download files. i'd be willing to donate to make this happen
The list is endless... MIDI Controllers, extra screens, ethernet, fingerprint reader, wtvr.
Just got the cable today. Checking out these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696446
...links and trying things now...
thanks for the pointers. I'm running cyanogen nightly 8-1... so far, i get:
D/Tethering( 102): interfaceAdded :usb0
from logcat when i plug my hacked (routed dc+ voltage from a nearby
+5v pin to the upstream cable red wire) powered usb hub into this OTG cable.
The EVO charges when i have it all plugged in as well...
Looks like they have this working on the Desire HD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993152
It's a similar device to the Evo, so maybe there is hope for the Evo to get it?
would like to bring this one back I just got a program called DSL controller it says my phone wont do usb host. Not sure if there is a kernel I need or if there is a ROM I can run etc.
I just ordered the cable I need for my phone and camera. So if anyone knows of a ROM that may do this please advise.
Any one try this yet? Do not want to spend the money till I see some one had it working
I too desperately wanted this to work... After buying the host-mode cable, trying various methods to allow "host-mode" on the evo, and trying a bazillion different combinations of settings - the DSLR controller software *always* gives me a "your device does not support USB host mode" error. I'm afraid this is dead in the water. DSLR Controller does, however, work nicely on my Asus Transformer tablet
I love kindle fire! best tablet $200 ! love LCD screen 1024x600 IPS!!!
But .. need to put an external keyboard to use in college in order to enter text! future can be no such enhancement like the ipad have?
Not yet. The best option is likely based on activating the bluetooth capability that appears to be on the motherboard. Developers are looking at that but are focusing on the ICS alpha.
Search this site or others for updates
When i am at home i use the app wifikeyboard.
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Would this work?
I have a Galaxy S2, which does support my bluetooth keyboard.
Could I use wifi keyboard with the phone and the kindle fire, type on the phone via bluetooth, then wifikeyboard copies it to the kindle fire?
Ive a BT keyboard on the way, so I will test it!
It has been stated multiple times in the dev forum that there is no Bluetooth in the fire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430473&page=3 from post 23 down.
Hashcode did mention the possibility of adding 3rd party USB Bluetooth support to 3.0 once it is stable.
three-p-o said:
It has been stated multiple times in the dev forum that there is no Bluetooth in the fire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430473&page=3 from post 23 down.
Hashcode did mention the possibility of adding 3rd party USB Bluetooth support to 3.0 once it is stable.
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Yes, I never said I was going to use bluetooth.
The bluetooth keyboard connects to my samsung galaxy s2.
I run wifikeyboard on the kindle fire and galaxy s2.
I type with the bluetooth keyboard, it copies onto the galaxy, then appears on the fire.
Its a long way round, but at least I can use an external device when I need to do a lot of typing.
Phil
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Yes, I never said I was going to use bluetooth.
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I think he was responding to the earlier poster who mentioned "activating" bluetooth
Yeah, didn't notice that you resurrected a dead thread and replied to ra0ul.
Just use OTG cable
Just do what I did: buy an OTG usb cable from amazon and then use Hashcode's latest 3.0 kernel. It will work like a charm!
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Just do what I did: buy an OTG usb cable from amazon and then use Hashcode's latest 3.0 kernel. It will work like a charm!
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With a keyboard such as this?
http://www.amazon.com/Leather-Keybo...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335741814&sr=1-13
Actually I believe USB 2.0 not supported at this time as it requires too much power. But any regular USB keyboard should work provided you use an OTG adapter. Also flash drives and such should work as well on hash's kernel!
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With a keyboard such as this?
http://www.amazon.com/Leather-Keybo...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335741814&sr=1-13
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I havent been able to find a keyboard like those that will ship to the UK :-(
Phil
revival
def a thread to revive at this point, be nice to start posting some stats on who's getting what working with product info 'n such.
from Hashcode's 3.0 (ish) thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25505053&postcount=699
(if that link doesn't come out, just looky at post 699 of his kernal thread)
I just ordered an OTG cable from Amazon
... being shipped from China ... might be a while.
Might not even work, then I'm gonna get a keyboard, possibly
HDE 7" Tablet Stand with USB Keyboard - Black Faux Leather Carrying Case by PingTab ... from Amazon.
might work, or not. the powered hub seems like a novel idea, seeing as the KF will drain battery quick without a powered hub. I could mod a single in/out hub, but I don't fabricate much, so it'll be messy and kill time. murder. anyone know about one of these powered hubs for a single device already made up? hmmm
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With a keyboard such as this?
amazon. com/Leather-Keyboard-Tabletpc-Laptop-Notebook/dp/B004TJJPG8/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335741814&sr=1-13
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I am using that keyboard to type this, it works great. A powered hub is not necessary, just a cheap ~$4 OTG cable. I plugged it in on boot and had no issues. I have only had the case/keyboard for an hour now. I'll report back with any issues if any pop up.
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I am using that keyboard to type this, it works great. A powered hub is not necessary, just a cheap ~$4 OTG cable. I plugged it in on boot and had no issues. I have only had the case/keyboard for an hour now. I'll report back with any issues if any pop up.
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I just bought that keyboard and an OTG cable
Yea I like that case. I got a good question. Is there an OTG cable that would let me also keep charging the kindle. Basicly Male Micro USB to Female USB and Female Micro USB.
Does anyone one know to install the kernal? I cant find a tutorial
Just install Hashcode's latest ROM. It has the latest kernel.
Kindle fire keyboard?
sej11 said:
I am using that keyboard to type this, it works great. A powered hub is not necessary, just a cheap ~$4 OTG cable. I plugged it in on boot and had no issues. I have only had the case/keyboard for an hour now. I'll report back with any issues if any pop up.
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SEJ: I would love to do the same, I assume this is still working for you?
A couple of other questions. Have you rooted the operating system or are you using the original Kindle Fire OS? Did you need to install a kernal to get it to work? In reading consumer comments from kindle owners on the Amazon.com webpage, it sounds like this keyboard did not work for many people; but I'm wondering if you had to do something different on the software side (or were they all not bright enough to buy the OTG cable )?
Thanks!
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SEJ: I would love to do the same, I assume this is still working for you?
A couple of other questions. Have you rooted the operating system or are you using the original Kindle Fire OS? Did you need to install a kernal to get it to work? In reading consumer comments from kindle owners on the Amazon.com webpage, it sounds like this keyboard did not work for many people; but I'm wondering if you had to do something different on the software side (or were they all not bright enough to buy the OTG cable )?
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I have this keyboard too.
You do have to be rooted with a custom ROM and Kernel. Just root with the latest Kindle Fire Utility and it will install the latest TWRP Recovery. Then just flash(what I recommend) Hashcode's latest ROM because it has his latest Kernel with OTG support. In other words the keyboard will work.
Make sure you buy an OTG cable by the way...
Hi guys. So the only thing I've done to my i747 is root it. I've tried both of the USB host apps in the market (USB Host Controller and StickMount) as well as the "SGS3-Easy-UMS" apk that's around, v1.2beta2 and v1.3beta. Can't attach any USB devices. All my flash drives are FAT32 and work well normally. I even ran the USB Host Diagnostics app and it confirmed that Android API, Rooted API, and Kernel "claim support" but no device is detected.
When I connect to sync, I can only do MTP transfers. This is why I looked into that EasyUMS apk because it apparently also allows to mount the phone on the PC as a USB Mass Storage device. During my search I see numerous people connecting flash drives, controllers, keyboards, and even a USB HDD to their sgs3's.
Because that apk requires busybox, and I have busybox, everything looked OK. However, I did once get an error from that APK about possible non-existant Kernel support. USB Host Diags disagree, as do many video tutorials.
Basically I'd like to know whether or not this is supposed to be working, and if not, then how do I go about making it work? I'd like to mount flash drives for easier use with Linux, and would like to mount the phone as UMS for the same reason. I would also like to use a USB Keyboard as well as a USB gamepad. Am I missing something? Are they all using the international?
Are you using a USB OTG cable?
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drothenberger said:
Are you using a USB OTG cable?
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got this one, a couple good reviews confirmed that it works with input devices: Amazon product# B005GI2VMG
i mean it's very possible that the seller just buys from random manufacturers without changing the listing. this one that i have is like the cheapest thing on the market so that may be the problem. i wouldn't mind trying a different one for <$5 w/ US shipping if that exists (recommendations?).
Same cable didn't work for me
I bought the same cable, but from a different seller. Amazon ID number B005N55WHI
And I have the same problem. Tried using it with several input devices and with several different roms and I couldn't make it work. Could it be a power issue? Does the USB device that it is being hooked up to have to be powered? I tried it with mice, keyboards, and flash drives, but all of those devices take their power from the bus, not an external source.
glad you posted. hmm. since we both have the same thing and they're both not working, i'm suspecting it's indeed the cable.
i read on a review of a different cable on Amazon where the guy cut open the connector and found no wire connected to one of the pins. i've had thinner-cable wires before that charged/transferred slower than others or didn't work at all on some higher-end devices, could really just be a cheap-out on the manufacturer's end.
i think i'd like to get a different cable. if anyone can recommend an inexpensive one that's confirmed working i'd appreciate it. so i don't have to shoot in the dark.
I got the one with Amazon ID B00871Q5PI and it worked for me. I tried a Dell USB keyboard, a USB mouse, and a USB DAC and they all worked. All take power from the bus.
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got this one.... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
would it make a difference if it says its for the galaxy s2 and not the s3? im guessing thats why i cant get it to work.
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got this one.... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GI2VMG/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_ST1_3p_dp_1
would it make a difference if it says its for the galaxy s2 and not the s3? im guessing thats why i cant get it to work.
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No, would not make a difference. USB OTG is a standard and for now all devices that have USB OTG work with all USB OTG cables. I've used a cheapass one from Ebay with my S2/Note/S3 for more than a year now.
solved for me
so i got the one drothenberger got (actually that particular link was out of stock for the seller so i got the other suggested one that looks exactly the same, title OTG for SGS3 - item# B00871Q5PI) and i'm in business!!!
someone replied to my negative review of the other one i got in the comments and they said theirs worked. i think they just have different products under the same label or lots of defective ones. i'd recommend to just get the ones that specifically say OTG for SGS3 - the extra dollar or whatever is worth it to save the trouble.
thanks again to everyone for the troubleshooting, hope this topic helps others resolve their issues.
I have rooted my kindle fire and put both aokp ics rom and jandycane rom at different times on my kindle fire. I'm using an OTG cable. I've been able to get my usb keyboard working on my kindle, only it's very very spotty; I've seen people using mouses with their rooted kindles, but mine does not work at all; and as for putting in usb drives, that has yet to work, though I've read other posts and people have said it works.
My question: is there a way to get the connection working better? I'm using the Logitech MK320 mouse keyboard combo with eforCity OTG cable. Thanks in advance for all who respond.
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I have rooted my kindle fire and put both aokp ics rom and jandycane rom at different times on my kindle fire. I'm using an OTG cable. I've been able to get my usb keyboard working on my kindle, only it's very very spotty; I've seen people using mouses with their rooted kindles, but mine does not work at all; and as for putting in usb drives, that has yet to work, though I've read other posts and people have said it works.
My question: is there a way to get the connection working better? I'm using the Logitech MK320 mouse keyboard combo with eforCity OTG cable. Thanks in advance for all who respond.
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Are you using a powered USB hub or trying to go keyboard into OTG cable?
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Are you using a powered USB hub or trying to go keyboard into OTG cable?
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I am using an OTG cable I bought on Amazon. It's the eforCity OTG cable, male micro usb to female usb.
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Most USB devices require more amperage to run properly than the kindle fire will provide, this is why for standard USB keyboards, mice, and flash drives it is best to use an externally powered USB hub which will provide the extra juice, look around a little bit there is plenty of information regarding this in the forums if you take the time to search. Fyi even with the powered hub some devices just will not work with the kf.
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I am using an OTG cable I bought on Amazon. It's the eforCity OTG cable, male micro usb to female usb.
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Same as what jlshady00 said:
Silly Amazon doesn't have the required 5 volts (or whatever unit of measurement, I forget), unlike most phones and other tablets, so you should use a powered hub. You will need Stick Mount https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ickmount&hl=en to be able to see flash drives. I don't know about mice and keyboards. I assume the same thing.
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Most USB devices require more amperage to run properly than the kindle fire will provide, this is why for standard USB keyboards, mice, and flash drives it is best to use an externally powered USB hub which will provide the extra juice, look around a little bit there is plenty of information regarding this in the forums if you take the time to search. Fyi even with the powered hub some devices just will not work with the kf.
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Thanks for your input. I've searched through the pages and had seen that it could potentially require a powered hub. Then there were pages that said it would require hash's kernel 3.0, and many other different things. I mostly was wondering if I was doing anything wrong because other people have said they've got keyboards working. Especially since my keyboard would work for a while; in fact, I was able to write about three sentences on my kf before it wouldn't recognize the keyboard, so I thought maybe there was a better way to do it or I was missing a step. To be honest, I find it more efficient to write down specifically what you have and what you've done, and all the specific information relating to your problem, then ask. It's more direct and less confusing. If nothing else, getting a response is reassuring.
Yeah, the new roms such as jandycane come with hash's latest kernel included so if the rom has been updated within the past month or so you should be good, but check the info on the thread as it should be listed.
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So if I have the latest Jandycane on my KF, what keyboard/hub/whatever I need would you recommend me getting? I would love to be able to use a case with a built in keyboard but barring that anything would be awesome.
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So if I have the latest Jandycane on my KF, what keyboard/hub/whatever I need would you recommend me getting? I would love to be able to use a case with a built in keyboard but barring that anything would be awesome.
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People seem to be having good luck with this one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004TJJPG8/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1350688656&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
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graywolfe42 said:
So if I have the latest Jandycane on my KF, what keyboard/hub/whatever I need would you recommend me getting? I would love to be able to use a case with a built in keyboard but barring that anything would be awesome.
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But if you have a case and keyboard already I would recommend getting a powered Usb hub. I was reluctant to get one at first, but like everyone who's posted on the subject, tit is currently the only other way to get a usb keyboard working properly. Thanks to everyone who helped point me in the right direction on this.
After I did some looking around for the past few days, I'm aware that the kindle fire has the appropriate chip for supporting Bluetooth. I also know that the Kernel does not support this. On all the other Bluetooth post they were made last year and I was wondering if anyone has been able to activate Bluetooth on there KF. Thanks
From what i understand the kindle has a bluetooth chip but cant be used as it does not have the other necessary hardware to make it work. hashcode would have said something about it and he has not even brought it up. this makes me think that its not possible.
on the otherhand i have a question to add to this. i may be completely wrong about what i said, but if i am right could it be possible to add a Bluetooth dongle to a USB hub?
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As far as I know, It seams if you are able to get an adapter to plug it directly into your kindle, It seams possible to do it, but I have no idea. You'd think that people would post something about using a dongle if it worked, but maybe not.
Yea. as far as i know people have posted about using a bluetooth dongle attached to a powered hub. So it is possible. Ive never tried it myself but other people have i guess.