What about the FairPhone project? Anyone interested? I like to see Firefox OS on this device in future, does anyone have my same idea?
Link: Fairphone - Technical Details And Links
I already ordered a FairPhone. But I'm not so interested in Firefox OS, rather in porting the FairPhone OS (which will be based on Android but with some modifications) to other devices and porting some Custom ROMs (I'm thinking of RootBox and SuperNexus cause they're my favorites) to FairPhone. And I'll make lots of videos about it on YouTube (Unboxing, tests, comparisons with other phones and so on...)
MicroDroidXDA said:
... and porting some Custom ROMs (I'm thinking of RootBox and SuperNexus cause they're my favorites) to FairPhone. ...
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You would be one of my heroes! :good:
Please DO IT :fingers-crossed:
I would like to help, but I'm new to that 'business'.
Looks good, but "fairphone" ?
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obleser said:
You would be one of my heroes! :good:
Please DO IT :fingers-crossed:
I would like to help, but I'm new to that 'business'.
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So am I, but what the hell, I think learning by doing is the best thing anyway We could just make a team "The noob FairPhone developers"
What are the specifications of FairPhone?
Just found an important quote:
I’m also pleased to announce that all source code for the FairPhone OS and widgets will be free and released to the public.
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=> Im not allowed to post extern urls in my first 10 posts.. so no source here -.-
Props to Fairphone
I just read about the Fairphone for the first time, and I'm absolutely gutted. I was hoping that HTC would've heard our pleas and given us The Next HD2 (in my mind called the HDX in homage to XDA's fierce reverence of the HD2).
Props to Fairphone for giving us what we've been salivating about for years, but the name could definitely have used some more thought...
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I already ordered a FairPhone.
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I have ordered one too... But I definitely want to leave Android (after about 4,5 years, since the T-Mobile G1), and I see in FirefoxOS a great potential. So I love to see this really open operating system (sup)ported on the Fairphone
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What are the specifications of FairPhone?
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Firefox Browser not so good on phone
Its a shame because it's always my first choice when doing a clean install on pc.
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Thanks for the interesting link on fair phone though It's a great philosophy.
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Fairphone = adding necessary value(s)
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I find the FairPhone initiative higly symathetic. Glad about this thread too.
People in this community should be considering what goes into our phones and how. The meaning of added value gets forgotten easily, with price substituting value too fast. Global market and supply tend to overwhelm and numb individual consumers. FairPhone is an intelligent way to start balancing that a bit.
It seems the project can use all extra hands and support. For instance, their site could perhaps present important facts and additional selling points better. For me, the adapted UI by Kwame is attractive, as is the basic possibility to install other roms of choice.
Unfortunately, not having contributed 10 useful posts yet, I may not offer 'outside' links here. I can only suggest you check out the Fairphone website yourself, especially the blog page, and follow some of the links provided there.
>> Among other things, you'll find a link to the recent presentation the developers of Kwame gave on their UI proposals on Android 4.2.2. Looking good and smart!
>> To find an interview (in English) with initiator Bas van Abel visit the site of blip.tv/openSUSEtv. Search and you will find
BTW - I'll try and see if I can upload some pdf docs I made of what I found, managing to keep the documents (many slides and pictures) small in size... If it works out, I'll post the docs here.
Let's hope the spark comes across :good:
This project is really cool, since most giant companies as of late dont release sources (Samsung with Exynos, Apple with...everything, etc...)
I have full support for this, although I cant afford it I hope the open source revolution continues
Deedend said:
I have ordered one too... But I definitely want to leave Android (after about 4,5 years, since the T-Mobile G1), and I see in FirefoxOS a great potential. So I love to see this really open operating system (sup)ported on the Fairphone
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Well the first FairPhone will run Android, that's for sure. I also think that FirefoxOS has a great potential, but I think Android's potential is still growing every day as more and more people become hobby Android developers, and it will take a few years until FirefoxOS will get more popular. So for now I'ma stick with Android.... also because I just love it. Every version is getting better than the one before.
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Well the first FairPhone will run Android, that's for sure. I also think that FirefoxOS has a great potential, but I think Android's potential is still growing every day as more and more people become hobby Android developers, and it will take a few years until FirefoxOS will get more popular. So for now I'ma stick with Android.... also because I just love it. Every version is getting better than the one before.
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I think that Android will become every day more invasive and closed... I admire open developer communities that create a lot of alternative roms, but I think that at this point we need a really open alternative to the giant; and I see in Firefox OS the best in terms of potential to open the mobile world. The system is very unripe (I am testing it on a Geeksphone Keon), but I can see a huge potential in it, and every update it improve a bit. I will follow his evolution with interest, and I hope that in future there will be the chance to put this system on the Fairphone hardware.
Perhaps it will be possible to install Android OR Firefox OS...
If you use Firefox brower in your PC, you will find you never have enough ram to run it, so I thing Firefox is will needs more powerful hardware than Htc one to run it
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If you use Firefox brower in your PC, you will find you never have enough ram to run it, so I thing Firefox is will needs more powerful hardware than Htc one to run it
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Keon works better than a lot of mid range Android that I have tried (remember that it's a developer preview unit)... and the specific of this phone are most like low range phone than mid range.
And, I use Firefox on every PC I use and rarely I experience lack of memory, even if I navigate with a lot of tabs opened!
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Keon works better than a lot of mid range Android that I have tried (remember that it's a developer preview unit)... and the specific of this phone are most like low range phone than mid range.
And, I use Firefox on every PC I use and rarely I experience lack of memory, even if I navigate with a lot of tabs opened!
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What can cause RAM shortages while using Firefox are mainly too many extensions added. I suppose any Firefox installation can cause - or rather allow for - memory problems, either on PC or phone, if users do not limit themselves in dressing their browser up with all that may seem fancy.
The extra freedom a browser like Firefox offers us users, comes with the inevitable burden of common sense restraint If that is understood, there's no reason in my opinion why Firefox could not aptly fulfill our needs...
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WOW, it seems something is moving... THIS TWEET make me hope! :victory:
Specs keep improving
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BTW - I'll try and see if I can upload some pdf docs I made of what I found, managing to keep the documents (many slides and pictures) small in size... If it works out, I'll post the docs here.
Let's hope the spark comes across :good:
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Alas, slimming pdf files based on presentations full of sheets down to the maximum allowed upload size has failed. The same goes even for the pdf of today's updated, ever improving spec sheet. But an old-fashioned copy-paste abstract might do just as well.
Here are the specs as per today, 28-05-2013, including the Change Log of improvements (italic and bold accents are mine):
Details
SIM Card - Dual SIM, Dual Active (!!)
Memory Card Type - microSD
Keypad Backlight No
Data Port Micro B
USB Version USB2.0
Charge Port MicroUSB Port, Type B
Earphone Jack ¢3.5
HDMI No
GPS Yes
WIFI Yes (more details to come)
BT Yes (more details to come)
FM Yes (!!)
Light Sensor Yes
G-Sensor Yes
E-Compass Yes (!!)
Proximity Sensor Yes
Gyroscope Yes (!!)
Antenna Type IFA
Mic SMD Switch
Speaker 1420*1
Receiver 1208
Motor 1020
Camera Pixel 8 megapixels +1.3 megapixels
Flashlight Yes!
Embedded System Memory 16GB ROM +1G RAM
Memory Card Type microSD
Memory Card Support Capacity 32Gb
Model GSM/WCDMA
Frequency GSM850/900/1800/1900MHZ, WCDMA 900/2100MHz
GPRS Class GPRS Class 12
EDGE Class Multi-Slot Class 12
UMTS Rate HSPA uplink cat7 up to 11.5Mbps (!!!!!) & downlink cat24 up to 42.2Mbps (!!!!!)
Video Decode Format MPEG4/H.264:[email protected] (!!)
Video Encode Format MPEG4/H.263:[email protected]
H.264:[email protected]
Audio Decode Format WAV,MP3,MP2,AAC,AMR-NB,AMR-WB,MIDI,Vorbis,APE,AAC-plus v1,Aac-plus v2,FLAC,WMA (!!!!!)
Audio Encode Format AMR-NB,AMR-WB,AAC,OGG
Photo Format JPEG
Streaming Media Yes
Primary Screen Size 4.3"
Primary Screen Type TFT
Primary Screen Resolution qHD (960x540 pixels)
Primary Screen Color 16M
Primary Backlight Quantity 8
Touchpanel Type Capacitive
Primary Camera Pixel 8 megapixels
Primary Camera Sensor Type CMOS
Primary Camera Sensor to be determined
Primary Camera Focus AF
Primary Camera Data Zoom Level 8
Secondary Camera Pixel 1.3 megapixels
Secondary Camera Sensor Type CMOS
Secondary Camera Sensor to be determined
Secondary Camera Focus FF
Multi-Shot Yes
Camera Scene Normal/Night
Photo Effect Normal/Monochrome/Negative
Video Recording Yes
Logbook of changes:
15 May: Good news! We added e-compass and gyroscope!
24/May: Sim capability has changed to Dual Stand-by. That basically means that you cannot have two calls active at the same time in both of the SIM cards. Though when in stand-by you can get a call on any of the 2 numbers and manage easily your data on one or the other SIM. It is one click to change from one to the other, while you are available on both. Internet works on one of the two (the one you choose), while you can receive calls on both simcards any time.
27/May:
Good news! Our UMTS rate is now better, so faster internet!! It was: "HSPA DL/UL, 7.2 Mbps/5.76Mbps" and it changed to Uplink: cat.7 up to 11.5Mbps & Downlink cat. 24 up to 42.2Mbps
Good news! Our Video Decode Format is better with 1080p! (MPEG4/H.264:[email protected]). That means you can record full HD. Better when you enjoy your videos on your TV for example.
Good news! Our audio encode/decode supports more formats!
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Furthermore: sales keep rising. With 16 days to the go until the deadline, the set target of 5000 sold FairPhones has been reached by 59% (or 2975 phones). It would seem that the buzz still very much goes on :victory:
To be continued, I think :highfive:
This is a great project. Really hope this takes off - I think I'm going to order one myself.
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Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
nobody can say this because all developers work on this in their free time and its their decission how much time they spend to this.
on the other hand there are many non solved problems and nobody can say if this problems can be fixed in 2 days or never.
so lets wait and see what great things devs can do in future
In theory it should run as smooth on Rhodium too I guess since they use the same kind of core hardwares such as processor and RAM.
The only thing I would guess is the drivers issues with the different hardwares such as keyboard, etc..., but as lhwparis said, the developers do it at their own time.
We just have to wish them good luck and appreciate their effort
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Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
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If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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Im pretty sure that Rhodium Android benchmarks faster than on other native android devices already using Android Market benchmarking apps.
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If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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Not completely true. The SD card is removable flash, the internal storage is just non-removable flash. If you get a fast enough SD card, there's no difference.
Also, Android can be flashed to the internal storage of a device with some cunning through the same idea they are using now (bootloading through Haret). Take a look at the Vogue and Kaiser threads.. The devs just have to work on that process, which I'm sure is not as important to them as getting Open GL working 100%, sound, and complete battery management.
I stand corrected. Thanks. Running Android of SD memory can be just as fast.
Exactly. When you buy your next SD card, shell out the extra $10 or so and get a class 6. You won't regret it.
You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?
I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)
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You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?
I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)
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What are you comparing your phone to? Don't look at a Droid X or an EVO dude. You have to compare apples to apples - about the closest native Android hardware to our phones is/was the HTC Hero. So that's our benchmark basically.
With that said, there probably is some software improvements, but getting a higher class SD will definitely help as well. I heard boot times are probably the most to benefit from higher class SD - don't expect miracles tho, there's definitely still some things that need optimizing - I think at present the devs aren't exactly sure what those things are
Once the major bugs are squashed certainly the focus will then be more on stability, performance and battery life. We've gotten quite a few battery fixes lately, hopefully performance will be next on the docket
I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)
Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.
I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)
ikari87 said:
I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)
Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.
I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)
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Having owned and used an HTC Hero and Samsung Moment I can tell you that the vanilla version (non-overclocked) of this build is about the same speed as the Hero. The overclocked version is faster than both when running on my class 6 card.
No Crystal Ball & No HTC Help
breytex said:
Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
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The issues are drivers, drivers, drivers and null assistance from HTC. With little more than the technical docs of the Qualcomm processor shared by the Rhodium as well as native HTC & other manufacturers Android devices the developers are nothing short of being friggin amazing. It's a lot of hit n miss trial n error and we the users are the beta testers.
My initial goal of being one of many beta testers was to see whether Android is a viable replacement for my WinMo device especially in light of Microsoft's direction with WP7.
HTC is helpful to XDA developers when it helps sell current devices. Unfortunately HTC in their shortsightedness fails to see the benefit of a successful Project Android being the springboard of many to a purchase a new native Android HTC device.
So will we have drivers, drivers, drivers to make the Rhodium as good or better than a similar hardware native Android device is a question no one can answer definitively when or if ever. For the time being, I like other beta testers will avoid phone calls like the plague, but nonetheless will have enough hands on to make an educated decision whether Android is right for them.
I dont know
My setup of Android seems to be working pretty good minus a few small bugs. Main bug I would say is battery issues. All in all mine is damn quick,and definitely faster than the winmo on the device. My winmo is trim and pimped out but still runs like a turd. It's reliable but slow. My ole lady has the Epic Galaxy S, and it is indeed fast and smooth with particularly vivid color (amoled), but I am gaining a new appreciation for my TP2 again wth Android. My screen looks pretty sharp as well. I am bouncing back and forth from winmo to droid often, but I can manage to stay in droid for long periods and not miss a beat. Waking up to my new rooster alarm sound ain't too shabby either.
I am a stickler for response speeds, and winmo out of the box blew just like it does on computers. Linux has never let me down, and now neither will droid. I would like to have a way in droid to check my 10 different email address' and not just gmail, but I'm sure there's a way. Windows' ideas are ok but their performance/quality has always just been farts upwind.
One thing some people don't think about is the apps and stuff they choose to run and the things they do on their phone, but at least android attempts to warn you of the access the app is being granted on your device before you install. Phones today have cameras, mics, speakers, communications, GPS, and a G-sensor. The only thing they can't do is taste and smell (coming soon). All in all though, they are capable of knowing where you are, where you've been, what you say, and what you look like as well as possibly being remotely controlled. Enjoy, but beware
The only thing holding us back is the slow GPU and the resistive screen.
I recently purchased the Newman K1
Does anyone know how to root it?
Does anyone how to install the original android 4.2rom on this, it came with lewa OS4.2 installed
Thanks for your help
ok
Ηas anyone bought this phone so we can have some general presentation?
A slightly late reply. I've been using the Freelander branded version of this phone (Freelander i30) as my main device for the past month and a half, and I'm pretty impressed: it's the first Chinese phone I've used where everything works without much hassle, including GPS. Camera is also decent by normal standards, and perfectly usable for snapshots.
Its main drawback is limited 3G support, as only the 2100 frequency is supported. A couple other very minor annoyances are the digitizer grid which can be seen in direct sunlight by turning the phone at a certain angle, the tendency of the screen to get dirty, and the average in-call audio quality. They don't pose a problem in use, in fact I bet most owners won't even notice them.
As for the rest, it's pretty great: the screen is very bright with good viewing angles colors and contrast; signal reception is ok, about the same as most other phones I had; firmware support is excellent, with two official ROMs (plain Android and Lewa) and frequent updates; GPS is very quick to fix and usually gets to 5m precision; audio quality through the headphone jack is pretty good, even usable by audiophile standards. Battery life is great, with moderate use I can do more than 3 days, heavy use a full day with something to spare.
For its price it's a very good phone, with good community support (there's an excellent thread on 4pda with English recoveries, custom ROMs, etc.). If you have any questions just ask and I'll try to answer them.
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A slightly late reply. I've been using the Freelander branded version of this phone (Freelander i30) as my main device for the past month and a half, and I'm pretty impressed: it's the first Chinese phone I've used where everything works without much hassle, including GPS. Camera is also decent by normal standards, and perfectly usable for snapshots.
Its main drawback is limited 3G support, as only the 2100 frequency is supported. A couple other very minor annoyances are the digitizer grid which can be seen in direct sunlight by turning the phone at a certain angle, the tendency of the screen to get dirty, and the average in-call audio quality. They don't pose a problem in use, in fact I bet most owners won't even notice them.
As for the rest, it's pretty great: the screen is very bright with good viewing angles colors and contrast; signal reception is ok, about the same as most other phones I had; firmware support is excellent, with two official ROMs (plain Android and Lewa) and frequent updates; GPS is very quick to fix and usually gets to 5m precision; audio quality through the headphone jack is pretty good, even usable by audiophile standards. Battery life is great, with moderate use I can do more than 3 days, heavy use a full day with something to spare.
For its price it's a very good phone, with good community support (there's an excellent thread on 4pda with English recoveries, custom ROMs, etc.). If you have any questions just ask and I'll try to answer them.
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Can you tell me that you have found 2 roms you mention?
You mean where have I found them? Sure
Newman K1 ROMs are released on the Newman BBS (forum) in this thread, they can also be found on the 4PDA thread in the formware section.
If instead you meant if I like them, the Lewa ROM is beautiful and very well done, but I prefer stock Android. They both work very well, rooting is easy with motochopper.
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You mean where have I found them? Sure
Newman K1 ROMs are released on the Newman BBS (forum) in this thread, they can also be found on the 4PDA thread in the formware section.
If instead you meant if I like them, the Lewa ROM is beautiful and very well done, but I prefer stock Android. They both work very well, rooting is easy with motochopper.
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and 2 Forum that suggest it is in non-intelligible languages for me, is there some topik here on xda or some anyway in English;
What's wrong with google translate?
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What's wrong with google translate?
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ludoo said:
A slightly late reply. I've been using the Freelander branded version of this phone (Freelander i30) as my main device for the past month and a half, and I'm pretty impressed: it's the first Chinese phone I've used where everything works without much hassle, including GPS. Camera is also decent by normal standards, and perfectly usable for snapshots.
Its main drawback is limited 3G support, as only the 2100 frequency is supported. A couple other very minor annoyances are the digitizer grid which can be seen in direct sunlight by turning the phone at a certain angle, the tendency of the screen to get dirty, and the average in-call audio quality. They don't pose a problem in use, in fact I bet most owners won't even notice them.
As for the rest, it's pretty great: the screen is very bright with good viewing angles colors and contrast; signal reception is ok, about the same as most other phones I had; firmware support is excellent, with two official ROMs (plain Android and Lewa) and frequent updates; GPS is very quick to fix and usually gets to 5m precision; audio quality through the headphone jack is pretty good, even usable by audiophile standards. Battery life is great, with moderate use I can do more than 3 days, heavy use a full day with something to spare.
For its price it's a very good phone, with good community support (there's an excellent thread on 4pda with English recoveries, custom ROMs, etc.). If you have any questions just ask and I'll try to answer them.
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That's great, thanks for your input. It's been a nightmare trying to find any community support for this phone (in English anyway!). I've just ordered this from Merimobiles. When you mention about the screen getting dirty quite easily, do you mean smudge marks easily appear or that dirt gets easily trapped at the sides of the screen ? And how average is the audio quality, is it fairly difficult to understand what someone is saying or is the clarity just missing ? Thanks
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That's great, thanks for your input. It's been a nightmare trying to find any community support for this phone (in English anyway!). I've just ordered this from Merimobiles. When you mention about the screen getting dirty quite easily, do you mean smudge marks easily appear or that dirt gets easily trapped at the sides of the screen ? And how average is the audio quality, is it fairly difficult to understand what someone is saying or is the clarity just missing ? Thanks
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What I mean by saying the screen gets easily dirty is that it's pretty easy to leave smudges on it and they are less easily wiped without some sort of liquid (water is fine), as if it was missing an oleophobic coating or had a very weak one. From reading around it's a common issue with most Chinese phones, I guess they save a few pennies by using a weak/no coating. It's not a big issue, especially if you use a screen protector or even if you don't like me, I just clean it more often than other phones I had. You could also try a "diy" coating, there are threads by people using car wax or windshield water repellent liquids.
The audio is ok, now I don't even notice anything during calls. I only noticed it when switching from the Jiayu G3, which had better call quality. You won't probably notice anything out of place. I'm also using a more recent baseband than the stock one, from a Zopo phone using the same chipset (here, flash with cwm or copy modem.img to /etc/firmware then chmod 644) which seems to have improved things, but maybe it's just placebo.
All in all it's a pretty great phone. I installed the latest LewaOS from early June and it's super smooth, and beautiful. A bit bloated, but nothing that can't be remedied by deleting a few apks from /system/app.
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PS - as for community support, there's an excellent thread on the Russian 4pda forum, split into a discussion thread and a firmware thread. You can use google translator and understand most of it, and there are links to all the drivers and ROMs in the firmware thread.
To download software just register, again using google translator. The only apparently difficult part is entering the captcha, but in practice you don't need to type cyrillic characters, just enter the sum of the two numbers displayed.
Another useful thread might be the one I started on the Italian androidiani forum, just search google for "newman k1 androidiani", in the first post I have collected a few useful links. Again, google translator allows you to grasp what you need.
I recently received my Newman k1. It is a very good phone, all works well. The only problem are the speakers:they're not bad, they're just not loud enough.
I have not missed any call because of it, anyway. Sorry for my bad English.
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You can tweak audio levels from the engineer menu, search on google there are lots of threads on how to do it as it's the same process for all mediatek phones.
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ludoo said:
You can tweak audio levels from the engineer menu, search on google there are lots of threads on how to do it as it's the same process for all mediatek phones.
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Give if you want more info or link
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Ηi Ludoo
you use this application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobileuncle.toolbox below to increase the volume and if so can you give us the prices;
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Ηi Ludoo
you use this application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobileuncle.toolbox below to increase the volume and if so can you give us the prices;
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Prices for what???
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Prices for what???
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sorry for my bad english, units I meant
google "mobileuncle volume levels"...
anyone have the newest lewaos rom from lewaos forum?
Brief Newman K1 and Affiliates
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Ηas anyone bought this phone so we can have some general presentation?
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:good:Newman K1/K1A/K1W in black, white, black/white
MTK6589
Depending on whre you buy it from they ship either the K1, K1A (labled as K1W), and as K1A panda under the name "Newsmy" Panda
K1 has 5 inch screen / K1A/W is 5.3 inches, though they share the exact specs, so any mods for one goes for the other. From what i had translated on their CHINESE forum, http://bbs.newamn.mobi, one is referred to the K1 area for flash, tweaks, ROMS, etc. Google does an OK job translating, you can get the general idea, but those Chinese characters, Whew! Pre-rooted from http://merimobiles.com (all their items are pre-rooted).
Onto the phone as a device for use, its a great device to start out with for tweaks and adjustments. The 5.3 screen is large enough to clearly see, The LEWA ROM is very smooth and though some say bloated, any apk's can be removed. Just do your research before making any adjustments.So yeah, smooth ROM out of the box. Simple font, based on android 4.2.1 though some options are in different places. Sound wise, it needs work, the headphone level is loud enough for inside listening but low enough to get drowned out by NYC traffic. As stated on other threads, this can be fixed..http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248396. The screen can easily be scratched, it is thinly coated, and might do well with a DIY method or a screen protector. The memory leaves to desire however. They market it as having 1 g RAM//4gb Rom but its only a 2 gb ROM of which 1.5 is taken up by the OS. An external SD is a must, just got to Settings>Storage> and chose save to SD and SD for internal memory. You should be fine then.CAMERA is 8 mp main/ 2 mp front. Camera quality is good on this phone. Clear crisp, natural looking pictures in daylight. Flash is too bright.Audio is good quality, suitable for most, though not Sony. It will run on T-mobile/ATT in the USA but only at 2g speeds through EDGE/GSM/GPRS. If your texting and phone calls, your fine and may be settled. If its internet browsing, then its a bit slow to load. I use a VOIP program with Google voice to make free calls over WIFI. WIFI and Bluetooth connectivity is excellent. GPS locks in within 1 minute max, though better positioning may be had by a window. MTK 6589 chips are known for their poor GPS signals, and though even though its not a 6589T chip, it still works fine.
Any further questions, please ask...
Shipment and Availability:
Ordered the device via amazon yesterday and it seems that they have a sufficiently well stocked fulfillment center- after ordering the device at 12AM, it shipped by 6:30AM of 16th September. The delivery estimate shows up as Friday, 19th by 8PM (Free shipping) for me.
Official website to buy the device from:
http://www.amazon.in/Micromax-Canvas-Android-Magnetic-Black/dp/B00NEFFWF6
The offers that Amazon is bundling with the device for the initial (limited?) period are:
1) Coupons worth Rs.2000 (they send these by the 20th of October to the email you register at amazon. Correspond to Watches, Handbags, Backpacks, Shoes, Sunglasses, Fashion Jewelry and Clothing)
2) Strontium 8GB MicroSDHC Memory Card (Does have a 4.5 rating on Amazon page, so hopefully it is reliable. Also, the phone accepts microSD cards upto 32GB in size- the total onboard space is only 2.5GB after all the OS and Google apps installations. Given that apps cannot be moved to SD card right now, additional apps take up this pool of space).
3) 10% Cash Back on State Bank Debit & Credit cards. (Also takes time to process, expect the cash back to come in by the 30th of November- I used SBI CC to buy the device; will keep a lookout on when this goes through).
4) For Airtel users, free software upgrades and app downloads for 6 months. (200MB of data per month for 6 months, Android updates do not count towards this data limit so hopefully the Android L update will download on the Airtel network without messing with this upper limit.
Airtel's website says:
"Prepaid offer:100 MB free data per month for software update & 200 MB free data per month for App download or update, for 6 months."
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Source
Evidently, there are a lot of conditions here and I am a little wary of the wording- it seems pretty certain that the data is useful only for App and OS updates and wouldn't be useful for any other purpose (browsing etc.). Also, seems to be valid only with prepaid phones.
Will have to check this and get back. More details on Airtel's website. Quoted below:
Process:
• Visit http://www.airtellive.com/offers from your mobile
• Check out the offer available for your smartphone
• Click on the ‘Activate now’ button to activate the offer
• ‘Successful’ message indicates that your offer has been activated
T&C apply:
• Offer valid for Micromax Canvas A1, Karbonn Sparkle V & Spice Dream Uno only.
• Offer applicable on the first prepaid active airtel SIM inserted in the handset.
• Post usage of free data or offer period, charges at 4p/10kb (10p/10kb for 2G) will apply.
• Offer can be availed from September 15, 2014 till March 14, 2015
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5) Up to Rs. 10,000 in Amazon.in Gift Cards for lucky customers, ends September 21st. Winners to be announced on October 1st.
Note:
Google also offers 35GB of cloud storage on drive in addition to the 15GB space you get with the google account. Make sure to register your device with the google account you want this to be credited to.
Reviews, Unboxings etc.
In an effort to get reviews from across the internet and from users on XDA, here are a few to start with:
Times of India (First impressions):
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...droid-One-smartphone/articleshow/42559430.cms
Indian Express:
http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/mobile-tabs/micromax-canvas-a1-review-for-the-price-android-one-is-a-good-experience/
Unboxing and Overview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4FID2teHeo
* The device does have a notification LED and also comes with a microfiber cloth and a screen protector that can be applied by the user.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7La-DJAzA0
Brief review of the Spice variant of Android One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ7Uy81tEWw
Comparison of the three Android One devices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmyFCh4MK0
Comparison of the Redmi 1s and Micromax Canvas A1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNoL1-f_NXE
An overview of the Android One devices (Since all the three release day devices sport the same set of hardware specifications):
http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/first-impressions-android-one-23914.html
Benchmarks:
From Digit:
http://www.digit.in/slideshows/android-one-benchamarks-micromax-a1-performace-camera-quality-1.html
The overall responsiveness as well as multitasking CPU score is higher on the Micromax in comparison to the Moto E as well as the Xiomi Redmi 1S. The GPU however is a different story. In spite of the lower pixel count, the Mali 400 GPU has a lower score in comparison to the other two phones. Xiomi beats the device by a good 40% higher score on the synthetic test.
Issues:
1) The device does not support USB OTG out of the box. (Source)
2) The camera app and any other application that requires handling of picture or video files fails to save them without the presence of a microsd card in the card slot (Source via BGR)
3) Obviously, the entire GPL headache with Mediatek- Let us hope the partnership with Google compels them to release the CPU kernel sources so that we may have some android development on the forum. This would help so many devices that have been released in India over the past year.
Edit: Good news is that Google is making some inroads here. They released the 4.4.4 kernel sources on 17th September 2014.
Other Information:
1) An interesting interview that NDTV had with Sundar Pichai on the future and goals of Android One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOsXUq49hFY
2) The android one website:
http://www.android.com/one/
3) The original I/O reveal of Android One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wnljlMvXIc
Kernel Source from Mediatek: https://github.com/eagleeyetom/android_kernel_mediatek
Android One Branch Source from Google: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/mediatek/+/android-4.4.4_r3
Root/Bootloader Unlocking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/android-one-general
So are the kernel source released by google??????
Android One devices specifications
Hello,
This is an interesting link that presents Android One first devices specifications :
Sylvain
How many Indian languages it can display out of the box?
siffar said:
How many Indian languages it can display out of the box?
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Seven from the looks of it. Hindi, English and six others that Google has yet to make public.
thejoker said:
So are the kernel source released by google??????
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It seems like Google has heard you
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-releases-kitkat-kernel-source-android-one-devices
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avinash60 said:
Seven from the looks of it. Hindi, English and six others that Google has yet to make public.
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Its going to be a deal breaker (till L releases) for the group, Google has targetted with this phone.
avinash60 said:
3) Obviously, the entire GPL headache with Mediatek- Let us hope the partnership with Google compels them to release the CPU kernel sources so that we may have some android development on the forum. This would help so many devices that have been released in India over the past year.
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Looks like Mediatek heard you, OP :good:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mediatek-android-one-source/
Oomahey said:
Looks like Mediatek heard you, OP :good:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mediatek-android-one-source/
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That was a happy surprise- things are looking good for the long term viability of the devices if google commits to it this way in the future as well.
I bought this phone but facing lagging issue in games like subway surfers,temple run 2,youtube video playback.
it lags for just a fraction of a second sometimes,otherwise its fine.
do you all who bought this phone face the same issue?
shall i go for refund?
On the contrary, its smoothest phone I've seen in a real long time. I have not done much gaming except SkyForce, which had frames dropped once in a while.
siffar said:
On the contrary, its smoothest phone I've seen in a real long time. I have not done gaming except SkyForce, which had frames dropped once in a while.
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Yes exactly the frames drop but this is happening even in normal games like subway surfer ,so kindly check it and let me know, I think to go for replacement.
teja989 said:
Yes exactly the frames drop but this is happening even in normal games like subway surfer ,so kindly check it and let me know, I think to go for replacement.
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You can compare your experience to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRR0H3JXdZ0
avinash60 said:
You can compare your experience to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRR0H3JXdZ0
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Got this video whose subway surfer is also lagging like mine.
So it may be a software glitch which google should soon fix it.
http://youtu.be/_zIIymGfbP0
hi how is battery backup guys post with battery graph ...
Sk.vignesh said:
hi how is battery backup guys post with battery graph ...
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http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/android-one-vs-android-competitors-battery-test-23951.html
In my experience, battery life is decent. You can expect 18 hours of runtime with moderate use, including 2 hours of screen time. I wouldn't put too much weight on the overall numbers though, Android L is expected to have a good 30 to 50% increment in battery life compared to kitkat because of the move to ART runtime and project Volta.
avinash60 said:
http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/android-one-vs-android-competitors-battery-test-23951.html
In my experience, battery life is decent. You can expect 18 hours of runtime with moderate use, including 2 hours of screen time. I wouldn't put too much weight on the overall numbers though, Android L is expected to have a good 30 to 50% increment in battery life compared to kitkat because of the move to ART runtime and project Volta.
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thanks fr ur reply..i also had one doubt.
After reading many reviews i heard that micromax has some issues in some.a1 handsets like connetivity,speaker problms ,and spice is good in a1 mobiles..
which one u suggest guys??
spice or mmx?
Sk.vignesh said:
thanks fr ur reply..i also had one doubt.
After reading many reviews i heard that micromax has some issues in some.a1 handsets like connetivity,speaker problms ,and spice is good in a1 mobiles..
which one u suggest guys??
spice or mmx?
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I have personally not experienced any problems- could be some people may be having issues though I don't know if the Spice variant is better than the MMX or if it is just a matter of MMX getting more customers causing the issue to be more apparent.
I would just go with any one of the three variants- I don't think any one is better than the others since the hardware is inherently the same.
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thanks fr ur reply..i also had one doubt.
After reading many reviews i heard that micromax has some issues in some.a1 handsets like connetivity,speaker problms ,and spice is good in a1 mobiles..
which one u suggest guys??
spice or mmx?
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i suggest mmx or karbonn. since eveything except the look is same, u want to get a phone which has good customer service. i bought karbonn. but there is some problem rooting as of now. I would recommend redmi if u want good hardware. that was my top choice. but i needed good updates. btw the battery sucks on this phone.
Google seems to have changed the way the bootloader and system partitions in this device work substantially enough that we now need a completely rehauled way of rooting, installing custom bootloader on the thing. Might take a few days for the developers to do that before we see new ROMs.
Edit: Varun over at Android one cross-development subforum has been successful at rooting the device as well as getting CWM recovery on the device.
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTIx-DWcmo
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
Camera samples:
Benchmarks and battery life screen grabs:
Thx with this first review
Thank you And great job !
I was planning to ditch my Axon 7 for this phone, but not really that sure anymore. Seems like a lateral transfer, not really an upgrade in any way (except for battery life I suppose?).
wow..12hr screen on time. That is impressive.
Hendrickson said:
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
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I want to buy the phone because it has great specs (does it feel as good as it sounds?) but I want to know if google services work flawlessly e.g. contact syncing,play store. Since you have this phone what is your general opinion about it, does it work buying it?
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wow..12hr screen on time. That is impressive.
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I think that 12 hours was the time it was active
chtsarts said:
I want to buy the phone because it has great specs (does it feel as good as it sounds?) but I want to know if google services work flawlessly e.g. contact syncing,play store. Since you have this phone what is your general opinion about it, does it work buying it?
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I think that 12 hours was the time it was active
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I also have this phone. No problem with Google services or Play store. Contactar syncing was perfect, with Google account and others account.
Two days with It and i like It a lot.
In my experience 6:30 of screen with 4G and almost without wifi.
Sorry for my english.
Thanks for the review. Maybe the Pro3 is not the best phone ever made. But it seems to be very very good, will most likely not explode and - taking into account the price - there is simply no competition. Hopefully, my phone will be delivered soon ...
I've received it today...very beautiful and work really good. We need an international ROM however.
I have this problem...it doesn't let me change or delete default APN. A problem I read is already present in other EUI smartphone someone has solved this Problem?
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Hendrickson said:
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTIx-DWcmo
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
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Thanks for that great review. Just some questions. Believe there are some like me who do not have access to LeEco products but are still keen on buying from an online reseller but have some concerns.
1. Are there any noticeable hardware issues? - understand that there are some complaints recently even on the le 2 that the display was not installed properly. Wondering if there are other types of defects that could render the device unusable for the obsessive compulsive people out there
2. What sort of rom is your unit using? - Importers/international sellers are known to meddle with the device to cater to the demands of their target demographic especially to those outside of china, hence, they can install fake roms (custom miui roms that don't receive updates for example) or install play store (after a restore to factory option, the gapps disappear)
3. The rom US units use seem to differ to the non-us units and the model numbers also differ. Would this be an issue if say the international rom is released and its not compatible with a unit bought from an importer? - had an issue before with a mi5 where the rom was an unofficial one and had to go through the hassle of unlocking the bootloader and installing the global rom instead
4.Any idea of software support in the long run and how prompt are LeEco's updates; ie Android N?
Thanks in advance and patience!
I know that US version x727 should be only 4/64 4gb ram and 64 GB ROM. It should have different LTE bands...in order to be used on us market.
Probably the us ROM couldn't be used on Chinese units.
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Thanks for a great review. I am ordering this when it becomes available in the US. Can't beat the price for what is in it.
androFRUST said:
Thanks for that great review. Just some questions. Believe there are some like me who do not have access to LeEco products but are still keen on buying from an online reseller but have some concerns.
1. Are there any noticeable hardware issues? - understand that there are some complaints recently even on the le 2 that the display was not installed properly. Wondering if there are other types of defects that could render the device unusable for the obsessive compulsive people out there
2. What sort of rom is your unit using? - Importers/international sellers are known to meddle with the device to cater to the demands of their target demographic especially to those outside of china, hence, they can install fake roms (custom miui roms that don't receive updates for example) or install play store (after a restore to factory option, the gapps disappear)
3. The rom US units use seem to differ to the non-us units and the model numbers also differ. Would this be an issue if say the international rom is released and its not compatible with a unit bought from an importer? - had an issue before with a mi5 where the rom was an unofficial one and had to go through the hassle of unlocking the bootloader and installing the global rom instead
4.Any idea of software support in the long run and how prompt are LeEco's updates; ie Android N?
Thanks in advance and patience!
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I have been using pro3 (x720) for three weeks. The screen display picture occasionally shake for about 0.2 second. This is the most disturbing issue. You can find the same complain in the Chinese leEco forum. Beside, mobile signal is not as strong as the nexus 5 I used for almost 3 years. If you can ignore these two issue, it's a great phone to have.
jwong.hhf said:
I have been using pro3 (x720) for three weeks. The screen display picture occasionally shake for about 0.2 second. This is the most disturbing issue. You can find the same complain in the Chinese leEco forum. Beside, mobile signal is not as strong as the nexus 5 I used for almost 3 years. If you can ignore these two issue, it's a great phone to have.
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Do you think its software related? Whats the rom they're using? Is it like the Mi phones where there is a vendor altered rom installed and does leeco release global stable roms like miui? Sorry, bear with me here ! thanks!
androFRUST said:
Do you think its software related? Whats the rom they're using? Is it like the Mi phones where there is a vendor altered rom installed and does leeco release global stable roms like miui? Sorry, bear with me here ! thanks!
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We all running stock rom with/without root. I hope it's rom related issue. As of now ,no official rom zip is available from LeEco.
Hi,
Just bought the 6/64 nonUS Version to use in Europe. Bought it after watching your review, thanks for that!....
Will directly root the phone in order to remove the chinese App's but wating for some plain Android rom's (stock Android). Had CM9 or so on a galaxy before and i wasnt that suprised as i supposed to be, but will also give it a try if it comes available to the Le Pro 3....
I'm sure with the actual specs and this awesome price the community behind the Pro3 will grow fast. Also i would donate 10€ to support the devs.
Sure to be here more often in future.
Thx&Rgds,
Maxcyber
I just got my Chinese version (6GB/64GB Dual Sim) - The phone is lightning fast. Screen looks great - camera is okay (I just snap pics anyways not really a photo person). The screen is decent if not a bit washed out. Indoors is just fine - outdoors I have to crank it to about 85% to see it. The fingerprint reader seems lightning fast if not 100% accurate. ( I get about 4 out 5 times). It let me add multiple fingerprints to unlock left or right handed. Overall the build is pretty solid. I put in my att sim and did not have to do anything else. Picked up all my settings. My antutu scores are 162397 - just shy of iphone 7 scores. Apparently the install is not google certified. I cannot run Pokemon Go or Android Pay (and snapchat I am told I don't use it). Pokemon Go is the soul breaker for me...
The GPS seems to lock lightning quick. I have not had any issues with Google apps although some updating had to happen (google services, play app, mail app etc...).
The battery seems amazing. I am getting great times out of it I don't have exact numbers but so far so good at least as good as my s7 edge.
I was able to put the google now launcher on it so no issue with the leeco skin.
Hopefully with the US launch tomorrow it will have a google certified image so I can run Pokemon go if not I am not sure I will keep it.
Pokemon go functions on official ROM ...see my screenshots.
I can't Android pay isn't active in Italy.I can't prove it...sorry.
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Yeah I don't understand I got mine from geekbuying.com so why would I not have official rom?
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andy88de said:
Pokemon go functions on official ROM ...see my screenshots.
I can't Android pay isn't active in Italy.I can't prove it...sorry.
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I got the 6g/64gb dual sim model from geekbuying - how can I get the correct rom on it?
See here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/le-pro-3-pokemon-t3491441
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Introductions ::
Hello there, and welcome to my review of the DOOGEE x30 (32-bit – not L) smartphone! As a casual technology enthusiast, this sort of product truly fuels my interest in the mobile device industry. Manufacturers, like DOOGEE, constantly raise the bar of expectancy-vs-price, by either introducing highly sought-after features to cheaper devices or creating entirely new features that are then introduced through the budget market first. This practice of constantly improving the developing the low-end market makes for an interesting show when one goes to observe the ripples that this creates in the mobile device market as a while. These manufacturers, when they get the formula just right, create devices that can competently perform at a low price point, while displaying very little compromise in overall design, features, and quality. As such, I find the budget market to be an important part of the general mobile device market(place).
Now, for a bit of personal background. This is my third smartphone from DOOGEE, which means that I have a slight, inherent bias. However, I will do my best to curb such, for the sake of an honest and fair assessment of the device in question. I will start with the un-boxing experience, and move forward from there in a semi-natural progression, if you will. The included clips will (unfortunately) be presented in 720p30fps - not true HD. But, it should get the un-boxing experience across in a satisfactory manner - I hope.
Specs ::
Can be found here.
Un-Boxing ::
approx. 15 minutes long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_cLORLc24
* Please note that the first part (the un-boxing) is still being processed, and the second part (the actual review) will be uploaded later this week (and hopefully, in a higher resolution). I hope you all are enjoying your winter holiday this year
Review ::
There is none - it's ded
Pros ::
The CPU is an MTK 6580, which is clocked at 1.3GHz - a decent CPU for this SoC, although 32-bit.*
This phone comes with 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, which is better than what many other budget smartphones come with (less than 1GB in many cases). In fact, this SoC could be packed with up to 4GB of RAM if they wanted…
The 4-sensor Camera system truly sets this device apart from the competition in terms of photographic capabilities at this price-point (60-100 USD). They record at 5mp and 8mp respectively, meaning that the maximum resolution you can get for an image (from the rear cameras) is 3264 x 2448. Pretty nice for a sub-100 USD smartphone...
The metal frame also helps in terms of durability, and even adds to the overall visual appeal of the phone’s design.
The curved body makes it easy to hold, and ergonomically pleasing to the average user. No pain in the palms to speak of
The phone comes with Android 7, which is a great move - Android 8 is here, and DOOGEE can push an update whenever they’re ready. In addition to that (assuming that DOOGEE does update this phone), it gives users the option to decide on whether or not to move on to 8 - software options. But, while you’re waiting, you can play around with Quick Settings Customization - which is another plus.
This phone comes with 16GB of internal storage as an entry model, in opposed to 8GB (as seen in past models like the x5 and x6). This move is definitely one in the right direction…
The software that comes installed on this device initially appears quite close to stock (Google Apps and all - beyond AOSP) Android, which is great for those of you who want more control over the experience, or a simpler experience when using Android. It’s pretty difficult to spot most of the differences and deviations...
Cons ::
This model’s CPU is 32-bit, which limits the RAM and apps that can be used on this device. As such, it won’t be able to use any software that requires a 64-bit* architecture or more than 4GB of RAM. Remember the x5 Pro and x6 Pro models?
The RAM speed on this device is only 533MHz, which leaves it feeling like low-price DDR2/LPDDR2 (at around 500-600MHz), in opposed to the LPDDR3 it’s actually packing, which (in theory) can reach speeds of around 800MHz.
The Mali GPU included on this SoC is only 2 cores*, which is a bit underwhelming for obvious reasons. A higher clock speed could have helped this a bit.
It comes with some unnecessary apps, which can’t be completely removed without rooting. This needlessly reduces the amount of free storage space on the device. What’s up with the cat hanging from the top of the screen?! The approach used on the x5 and x6 Pro models should be used on this device instead.
It’s theme, while small in terms of performance impact, is an unnecessary and non-innovative deviation from a simpler Google/AOSP UI experience. Once again, the approach used on the x5 and x6 Pro models should be used on this device instead.
The screen, while being HD-Ready, is of the 720p/1080i variety - not the Full HD (1080p) that many have come to expect from their smartphones nowadays. But, this isn’t too much to bare.
The camera(s) only record at 5mp and 8mp respectively, meaning that the maximum resolution you can ever get for an image (from the rear cameras) is 3264 x 2448. While still images are quite nice, video recordings are locked in at 30fps, and may actually be at a lower resolution still.
This device can only receive so much expansion via the SD card slot - 32GB to be exact.
The SoC on this model doesn’t offer 4G(LTE)* capabilities, Bluetooth 5, NFC, or Wireless Charging.
It’s USB 2.0, instead of 3.0. An upgrade to 3.0 would have been nice...
Not so sure about how honest DOOGEE is about the camera.
Some apps I would remove (if I could) include:
Torch*
Themes **
System Manager**
File Manager**
DOOGEE ?
Chrome *g
* Integrate this feature into the Quick Settings - no need for another app
** Can be handled better with 3rd party apps
*g Have better counterparts that are developed by Google, and should be decided on by the user
? What does this app do?! I don’t remember it being around on the older models...
Conclusion ::
Overall, I think that this device is quite nicely-made for this price (60-70 USD), but could be improved upon a bit. While being a worthy successor to the single-digit x-models, I also think that there should be a higher-end model available, for those of us who are willing to pay to have many of these issues alleviated (around say, 100 USD - like last time). In addition to this, from having had the x5 Pro and x6 Pro models, I can’t help but feel just a bit let down this time around. Yet, there isn’t an x30 Pro. Perhaps the x30L* would answer the call? Although, I haven’t been able to find the darned thing, for sale, anywhere!
Overall Rating: 7.0/10
Bottom Line;
Good show, DOOGEE. You do have some places where you can improve. But, I can’t wait to see what you come up with next...
I actually purchased this phone for the mother-in-law. It literally just arrived today. Off the top, it's a very nice phone, especially for the sub-$70 I paid for it. I'm going to be working with this in-depth over the next few days in order to customize it (and see what tricks I can find). I'll report back when I'm done.
UPDATE: Just got this TWRP'd and rooted. Now I can see what this thing can do. :good:
Here we go!...
Bratzilla said:
I actually purchased this phone for the mother-in-law. It literally just arrived today. Off the top, it's a very nice phone, especially for the sub-$70 I paid for it. I'm going to be working with this in-depth over the next few days in order to customize it (and see what tricks I can find). I'll report back when I'm done.
UPDATE: Just got this TWRP'd and rooted. Now I can see what this thing can do. :good:
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I'll be uploading a review of it this week!
TopHatProductions115 said:
I'll be uploading a review of it this week!
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Good to hear! I enjoy reviews of these smaller brands. Not everyone can afford a Note 8 cash-out.
I got a few more technical notes. Apologies if I ramble a bit, but I wanted to get this listed so that I don't forget. (Please let me know if you want me to post my root method as I don't want to hijack your thread. I didn't see any other threads pertinent to this phone posted yet.) These notes have to do with modding the phone and how it behaved for me afterwards.
As mentioned earlier, I rooted this phone after playing with the stock version a bit. A note about rooting - there are several posts online that mention rooting via SP Flash Tool. I never got this to work for me. Instead, using ADB and the TWRP version for this phone did the job (there is a trick in doing so as the install wasn't quite so straightforward). Once TWRP was installed, flashing SuperSU went as usual. Root Checker confirmed that root did take.
Custom recovery was possible because Doogee X30's flavor of Nougat 7.0 (which btw this phone has one of the few maker-created launchers that I pretty much like) contains a switch in Settings that allows you to make the bootloader unlockable. A quick run through ADB to actually do the unlocking worked perfectly. However, I now have a "Status Orange" message upon boot-up that claims the phone is now unsafe due to the bootloader unlock. But this doesn't seem to adversely impact operation (at least nothing obvious has presented itself) - very similar to the message I got when I did the same thing to the Galaxy Note 4.
I was able to use Kernel Auditor to do thinks like speed up the CPU and enable init.d (one of the requirements to get Viper4Android to work). CPU tweaks substantially enhanced this phone's performance.
Once rooted, customization became relatively easy. I targeted my usual apps to enhance the phone. SELinux Switcher, Adaway, BusyBox, Kernel Auditor (to tweak CPU performance and enable init.d), and Viper4Android (the package that includes Sony + Dolby Atmos). Rooted apps are all performing as expected.
The factory launcher is surprisingly lite and simple, and I did enjoy it. I would have kept it for the MIL, but I didn't see any obvious way to change the icon set so I went with Evie Launcher (if you see a way, though, please let me know). So far, Evie is working quite nicely.
Wifi speeds are pretty good for a phone in this class; I have no complaints. For cell data, based on the radios supported, this phone can only work at 3G/HSPA+ as there is no LTE radio. However I'll better be able to speak on that once I put in her SIM card and really give this a twirl on AT&T towers.
With the right modifications, I'd say this phone performs similar to those with a much higher pay point. Of course it's nothing near flagship level. However, for the amount of RAM and on-board storage, SD card support, headphone jack and REMOVABLE battery - I'd say this phone is a pretty sweet deal especially for people who just cannot or do not want to spend $$$ for a bunch of features they don't need. Plus if you break this sucker, you're not gonna cry over it. Just save up a few In-and-Out combos in a piggy bank and you can buy another one.
Oh yeah - one final note. Regarding cases, unless you want to pay Amazon's ridiculously jacked-up prices, it's best to order one through eBay from overseas. I got the pleather wallet model and it looks pretty decent. Just saw there is now a genuine full-leather one also on eBay.
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Oh darn it! I just saw that you wanted to remove some system apps. Once rooted, there are apps in Playstore that should let you do just that.
In fact, thanks for that list. I'll check these out and see which ones I can dump. Is Themes tied to the launcher? If so, I may not touch it to avoid problems later. Speaking of Theme - that effing hanging cat can be turned off in the stock launcher settings. There is actually a switch for it. Sooooo annoying!
And your rating is very close to what others are giving (low to mid 7s), so it looks like your instincts are quite on the money.
Just added the first video. Once again, I'm kinda wishing that my dedicated camera was still operational (Nikon COOLPIX), but it stopped working a few months back. I had no option but the Nexus 7 camera (again). I've been using it as my camera for most of my videos where it isn't screen cap.
care to expand on TWRP rooting?!
(there is a trick in doing so as the install wasn't quite so straightforward)
For those wondering how to root this phone, its actually pretty simple. THIS WILL ERASE EVERYTHING.
Assuming you know some basic adb commands..
You wanna start off with making sure your bootloader is unlocked, which can be done fairly easily with ADB tools.
Don't be alarmed when your phone resets a couple times, its erasing data and reformating.
Once your bootloader is unlocked and your phone restarts, remember to reenable USB debugging. and then go to fastboot mode again to flash our recovery.
(I used the recovery link listed in the SUflash method that comes up when googling 'x30 doogee root')
Once our recovery is installed, we'll wanna put the latest version of SuperSU (Make sure its the zip, not the apk) onto your phone/SD card. Boot into recovery, and install SuperSU through TWRP.
Congratz, you've succesfully rooted your X30
Tested and verified on mine. Sorry I could not include links, do not have enough posts. Just wanted to be of assistance!
This device (unfortunately) actually sort needs root to even feel at-home with. Which is sad, because the x5 Pro and x6 Pro weren't like that. I rooted them advanced purposes - not to get them to a decent state...
Help me please!
I stuck my phone in TWRP can you send me a copy of your recovery?
VeteranoX said:
I stuck my phone in TWRP can you send me a copy of your recovery?
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I unfortunately don't have the device anymore