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Anyone saw this yet? It is pretty expensive though, lol:
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-3500-mAh-Battery-Backup-Solar-Charger-P83981.htm
I saw this on Fommy.com and was thinking about getting it.
How exactly does it work?
Does it charge it's own battery if not plugged in to the phone, then later when there is no sun you can charge your phone of the charged battery?
If so, that is kinda bad ass.
Yeah I think that is how it does work. If not, than that price is not worth it, lmao. Hopefully it works as how you described it though.
BigWorldJust said:
Yeah I think that is how it does work. If not, than that price is not worth it, lmao. Hopefully it works as how you described it though.
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That is exactly how it works. It has a 3500 mAh battery battery built in. For comparison the Vibrant comes stock with a 1500 mAh battery.
That's actually not a bad price, considering that a 2500 mAh Innocell from Seidio will cost you about the same. The Innocell is an internal battery with a replacement back cover. I was going to get one but I'll probably get the Amzer now.
For comparison shopping you can go to ThinkGeek dot com and search for "solar charger" to find the 4 or so they sell. They even have a $200 for laptops.
Follow instructions for usage. Do not overheat or overexpose the Amzer Solar Charger to direct or indirect sunlight and AC/ USB charge.
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WTH? Do not expose to direct sunlight? How is it a solar charger then? Idiotic legal disclaimers. This one's right up there with "Do not insert screwdriver into eye."
Nice. So basically it is worth it?
I say it depends. If I need more batteries I'd rather get them separately and have a charger specifically for it like the ones you can find on ebay.
Taking out the old battery and popping in the new one only takes a minute while charging from a solar battery could take who knows how long.
Col.Kernel said:
That is exactly how it works. It has a 3500 mAh battery battery built in. For comparison the Vibrant comes stock with a 1500 mAh battery.
That's actually not a bad price, considering that a 2500 mAh Innocell from Seidio will cost you about the same. The Innocell is an internal battery with a replacement back cover. I was going to get one but I'll probably get the Amzer now.
For comparison shopping you can go to ThinkGeek dot com and search for "solar charger" to find the 4 or so they sell. They even have a $200 for laptops.
WTH? Do not expose to direct sunlight? How is it a solar charger then? Idiotic legal disclaimers. This one's right up there with "Do not insert screwdriver into eye."
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direct sunlight means lots of heat (over 100F on a good summer day), lots of heat is not good for batteries. solar charger does not mean it charges from sun.......it needs any light source.
Follow instructions for usage. Do not overheat or overexpose the Amzer Solar Charger to direct or indirect sunlight and AC/ USB charge.
LOL
kolyan said:
direct sunlight means lots of heat (over 100F on a good summer day), lots of heat is not good for batteries. solar charger does not mean it charges from sun.......it needs any light source.
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lol.
mini semi scientific answer: they use heat to turn into electricity, and it's not that efficient, but it's enough to work (and gets better every year).
So sure, any light source might work, but something other than the sun will basically not work that well. Having it in a lighted room will do zero for it, for example.
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lol.
mini semi scientific answer: they use heat to turn into electricity, and it's not that efficient, but it's enough to work (and gets better every year).
So sure, any light source might work, but something other than the sun will basically not work that well. Having it in a lighted room will do zero for it, for example.
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yeah, but there is a battery in side as well. if it was just a solar charger then yes, more sun = better
I saw a similar product on Dealextreme for much cheaper. From the feedback the important thing is to find out if the charging current is at least 700mA. If not the Vibrant might not be charged properly.
Here are the ones from DE: http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.1101~search.solar usb charger
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lol.
mini semi scientific answer: they use heat to turn into electricity, and it's not that efficient, but it's enough to work (and gets better every year).
So sure, any light source might work, but something other than the sun will basically not work that well. Having it in a lighted room will do zero for it, for example.
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A solar cell does NOT use heat to produce electricity, it uses light waves. Full spectrum light is the most efficient but any light source will work.
The waves impact the cell and cause a potential difference on the diode, this then creates a current in the cell. Heat is actually BAD for solar cells, the cooler they are the more current they produce. This is one of the reasons that solar panels in snowy environments can produce more electricity than cells in the south. Reflected light off the snow is another reason.
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I saw a similar product on Dealextreme for much cheaper. From the feedback the important thing is to find out if the charging current is at least 700mA. If not the Vibrant might not be charged properly.
Here are the ones from DE: http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.1101~search.solar usb charger
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It's cheaper because you get less. 1800 MAh as compared to 3500 MAh storage.
I looked up the reviews of the Amzer solar one on amazon and it didn't look too promising.
I decided to get this one (no solar):
And for those in windy areas...
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Follow instructions for usage. Do not overheat or overexpose the Amzer Solar Charger to direct or indirect sunlight and AC/ USB charge.
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People, the warning is not to put it in sunlight. It is to not put it in sunlight AND have it plugged into the AC/USB charger — thus providing 'double' charging.
Solar or not
<$20
You might want to look for one that includes a std usb adapter so you can use it w the oem cable for whatever phone/gadget, or get an Amzer mini-to-micro usb adaper for $5 (and get an adapter for your future phone, too).
But yeah. $70 is a little steep. I'd rather get two of these. You could get 4 for that price.
Edit: Im liking this. It says the battery can be replaced, and it doesn't say with what,exactly, but it looks AA sized to me. It has all the adapters, the port you plug your phone into is usb (yeah, you could probably scrap the cable and the adapters), and it looks like it chrges via the same port. None of these parts is entirely enticing, but the stuff in the bag, not to mention the bag, is a MacGyver use-for-everything in whatever way you need package. I think part of the appeal to me is the mystery as to whether it really is as all-purpose as I think it is. I love this kind of Asian innovation. I'm very tempted to support it. If I do, I'll report back.
OK, while I'm at it: $7, free shipping, with std usb so you can use your OEM cable.
Amzer sells a lot of overpriced stuff, this is one of many
solar chargers
Well i was looking for one and i got from dealextreme , but after 3 months, its not charging properly. Not sure why?! My brother got for me one and its good, he said he got from Chinabuye, its online store from China. Good battery life. so far so good.
Amzer is JUNK
Amzer makes JUNK. Purchased their junk before and it's not worth it even if it was free.
The owner of Amzer, basically gets Chinese manufacturers to make his junk and label it Amzer. His products are the same junk you can find on ebay for 50 cents.
This is BS.
Gonna try them out...not sure what i'm gonna get but for 13 bucks worth a try
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-2000mAh-Batt...330459330057?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_4942wt_911
Highly doubtful 2000ma batteries, probably 1500ma batteries that are really 1300ma. Tutoit on ebay I have 2x1500ma batteries for a 9.98$ shipped with a charger, I would get that instead.
yeah, either get the 2 1500s and the charger for 11 50
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290444598681#ht_1730wt_1137
or the 1800 and the charger for 11 50
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Battery...250661003311?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_3119wt_911
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Gonna try them out...not sure what i'm gonna get but for 13 bucks worth a try
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-2000mAh-Batt...330459330057?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_4942wt_911
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I was just looking at this... seems like a great idea... the extra charger allows you to keep a second battery charged without using the EVO to do it. Even if it's really a lower rated battery... still a good deal.
Did you try it?
Trident said:
I was just looking at this... seems like a great idea... the extra charger allows you to keep a second battery charged without using the EVO to do it. Even if it's really a lower rated battery... still a good deal.
Did you try it?
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I ordered it, but still waiting...those hong kong shipments take a while, i'll let you know as soon as I test it out
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I have a set of the 1500 mah batteries with the charger as was posted above, and I have no problem with them. I use my OEM battery most of the time, but sometimes it is handy to have some fully-charged back-ups. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between what my OEM battery lasts and the knock-offs. For the price, you can't beat it.
so how are the batteries?
normally i would stay way from cheap Chinese crap on eBay, but with what i read here on the xda boards in regaurds t othe ok qualitybeing good enough that they might work out, so i ordered 2x1850 plus charger from ebay. i dont have time to do any real testing but i can say that:
1 not having to charge the battery from the phone is nice
2 i always have one on the charger, one in my pocket and one in the phone.
3 charging in the base seems to get me a better charge
4 i cant tell a difference between oem and knock offs, although you would think that the 1800's would last longer than the 1500oem but we know how that knock off crap goes. in my book if they are the same as oem, regardless as to what they claim and dont require a bigger back plate, then i guess that's good enough.
The 2 from tutoit or what ever the sellers name is work great last as long or longer then my stock battery. The charger also gives a better charge to the batteries then I get through my phone I'm talking extra hours when I charge with it.
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yeah, either get the 2 1500s and the charger for 11 50
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I got this and it's a good deal for the price.
The batteries aren't as good as oem. Probably last 75-80% as long.
The charger works well though and it's nice to have a couple extra batts laying around. I've only cycled them 4 or 5 times so I suppose the life could improve...time will tell.
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I have a set of the 1500 mah batteries with the charger as was posted above, and I have no problem with them. I use my OEM battery most of the time, but sometimes it is handy to have some fully-charged back-ups. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between what my OEM battery lasts and the knock-offs. For the price, you can't beat it.
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I Have a number of Minor issues with mine. Must of gotten a bad set.
1) USB port on the charger does not output enough juice to charge the phone (Accually Locks it up until I unplug it)
2) Charger seems hit or miss on recharging the Stock Battery. I've left it plugged in all night and come back to ~20% charge when I pop it in a number of times
3) Random Screen cut off when charging the Replacements IN the phone.
So I only charge the Ghetto batteries in the charger provided.
That being said, I STILL think it's a great deal and more than happy with my purchase. I have 2 spare batteries for my phone (Or the wifes CDMA Hero) and a way to charge one w/o having to leave my phone behind (I don't have to babysit my phone for a charge, If someone walks out of the poker room or party with my charger and battery it's no big deal) The 2 China batts. are just emergency tanks, The Red one gets put back in as soon as I get home.
Best Purchase at twice the price.
Don't wait press the BUY NOW!!!!
Loved the first set so much that I purchased a second set 2 weeks later. I keep 1 set at work and 1 set at home. I always carrying a fully charged battery in plastic bag in my pocket. I love the EVO but hate the battery life. The first month I owned the EVO was hell for me having to carry a power charger and cable everywhere. I hated having to plug my phone in every time I found a power outlet worried if I didn't I may find myself without a phone when I needed it or having to fight everyone at the airports for power outlets. Now when I'm low on juice, I just switch batteries.... BUY NOW you'll never regret it....
I purchased 2 3500 batteries with new backs on e-bay for $22 and change. They work great I can go for over a day with fairly heavy usage.
Only minor problem was that with the phone thicker my silicone case doesn't fit as good. Extra weight no problem.
Yeah one thing I have learned from buying these types of batteries and charger is that they don't like to charge the OEM batteries but charge the cheapo ones just fine. I've noticed it on alot of things not just phone batteries.
buy it for the charger
i bought a 2000mAh that turned out to be a 900mAh so i would only buy it for the charger.
I wouldn't recommend the 2 x 1500 batteries plus charters the 1500's seem like a 1300 or a little less I would say try get the 1800 one from eBay they have a lot of auctions for them so all you gotta do is be patient and try to get for cheap that's what I'm tryin to do
Just ordered one of the 1800mah.. will see how this works out!
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Hi,
I wasn't sure where to put this so feel free to move it where it need be.
I recently got a new HD7 (love it!!! ) but unfortunately the battery leaves a little to be desired, it only has a 1230mAh battery. This spring i need to survive a 15hr bus ride to Florida with no plugs in site for the whole time. So my question is who has a portable charger they like and or one that will help me last 15hr? I am looking at the Power Mat portable 2x which should give me almost 7 full charges on it 7800mAh but I am game for anything that will give me lots of power.
Thanks!
nat1 said:
Hi,
I wasn't sure where to put this so feel free to move it where it need be.
I recently got a new HD7 (love it!!! ) but unfortunately the battery leaves a little to be desired, it only has a 1230mAh battery. This spring i need to survive a 15hr bus ride to Florida with no plugs in site for the whole time. So my question is who has a portable charger they like and or one that will help me last 15hr? I am looking at the Power Mat portable 2x which should give me almost 7 full charges on it 7800mAh but I am game for anything that will give me lots of power.
Thanks!
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look at this : http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc/htc-hd7-t-mobile-9292.html
you can buy 1800MAh or 3900mAh
hd2leo_fusion said:
look at this : http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc/htc-hd7-t-mobile-9292.html
you can buy 1800MAh or 3900mAh
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hummm....... Any idea how long the life time of these is?
nat1 said:
hummm....... Any idea how long the life time of these is?
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nop but mugen make very stronger battery life so u can't buy it eyes closed(i ordered one for my 7 mozart,i wait it )
here is the link for other user using mugen battery for their HTC
-http://bit.ly/dpWGYS
well.... I picked up the powermat, I have to admit its incredible..... its a great accessory for anyone on the go.
That non-standard batteries are ugly!
I have APC UPB10 - portable USB-battery. It is very compact and has capacity nearly 10x more than standard HTC HD7 battery. This thing charges all my gadgets when I am not at home. And I've never been in situation when my portable charger was totally run out of power.
i buy time ago this product
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/solar-powered-2000mah-rechargeable-portable-emergency-power-with-phone-adapters-led-light-42139
and was working awesome to me, when i have my N1 give me some juice when i was camping and no energy around, and the light its a plus i like so much, perhaps isnt working for atrix seems motorola needs more power to feed up anyone knows a cheap emergency battery like this?? i dont want expend a lot in power mat since i use this when im out of city
I use a Zagg Sparq from zagg.com. I got one of them for 50.00 US.
I used a coupon from one of their promotions. If you enter their contents and are not in a hurry you can probably get a coupon as well. I use it all the time while camping and it works great.
"seems motorola needs more power to feed up"
Well, yes, a standard single-AA cell "booster" can't suplly the entire ~1900mA that the Atrix battery can take. So it may only give you 1/2 or 3/4 charge and then you'll need a new battery and still more time to recharge.
But if you look around for any standard "booster" that has a miniUSB (and micro converter) or microUSB adapter on it, it WILL charge the Atrix until it runs out of power. Some of them use a 5v lithium cell instead of a AA cell, that's more likely to do a good job but again, that needs to be recharged too.
I was just wondering whether external batteries are generally quite reliable, and if so what the best brands are to go for? I am looking for a relatively powerful one - I am not afraid of a little bit of cost, but obviously I don't want to spend masses.
Thanks
Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
I have a "Just Mobile Pro" or something like that.
4400mAh with 1000mA output.
But the EasyAcc 5600mAh (which I don't have) does sound better and cheaper (on Amazon).
Second new trents 11000mah one that thing is a beast
Chartist said:
Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
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24inchsub said:
Second new trents 11000mah one that thing is a beast
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yeah i got that bad boy too and its a beast. well worth the price
Chartist said:
Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
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Thanks not heard of New Trent before. Looks good. Can you confirm it's output charging current though? I can't find the spec on it anywhere. I'm assuming it's the full 1A, as it says it can charge an iPad, but could you please confirm? Looks like I'll be needing one!
Cheers.
wnp_79 said:
Thanks not heard of New Trent before. Looks good. Can you confirm it's output charging current though? I can't find the spec on it anywhere. I'm assuming it's the full 1A, as it says it can charge an iPad, but could you please confirm? Looks like I'll be needing one!
Cheers.
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i can try to charge my ipad when i get home haven't tried actually.
I bought the Anker 5600mAh battery for my HTC Desire. Great quality, compact and it fits in my pocket very nicely. I bought it for $30 on ebay
http://www.ianker.com/products_astronew.html
gordongartrell said:
I bought the Anker 5600mAh battery for my HTC Desire. Great quality, compact and it fits in my pocket very nicely. I bought it for $30 on ebay
http://www.ianker.com/products_astronew.html
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Flashlight feature's a nice touch.
isound portable external battery. Has built in flashlight too. Comes in two flavors, 16000mah and 8000mah.
If you look around you can find it cheaper elsewhere
http://www.isound.net/shop-by-type/accessories/i-sound-portable-power-16000-mah.html
Zagg Sparq 2.0 6000mah. Not worth the $100. Went on sale for $50 before..
Love the design and its built it power plugs. Loses charge over time. Google user reviews.
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php
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Flashlight feature's a nice touch.
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It's good and bad . I was on the train heading home from work and I was charging my phone with the Anker charger. I accidentally pressed the power button twice and the flashlight turned on. Sitting across from me was this fairly attractive woman with a skirt on. She automatically crossed her legs and looked at me weird. I hope she doesn't think that i'm a pervert.
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It's good and bad . I was on the train heading home from work and I was charging my phone with the Anker charger. I accidentally pressed the power button twice and the flashlight turned on. Sitting across from me was this fairly attractive woman with a skirt on. She automatically crossed her legs and looked at me weird. I hope she doesn't think that i'm a pervert.
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Hah! Good thing I didn't have a mouthful of soda there...
Good thing to remember with external battery packs is that during usage some of the charge goes to charging the battery while some is lost in heat. I think I read some where its normaly 30-40%. So for example a 11000mah battery will give you some where near 6600mah of charge so about 3 and half charges of the HTC One X.
I'm considering either the:
TeckNet® iEP387 7000mAh Dual-Port 2.1Amp Output Universal USB Battery Bank
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
New Trent iCruiser IMP1000 11000mAh External Battery Pack
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
Although not 100% sure I need either at the moment
HTC-Gunge said:
Good thing to remember with external battery packs is that during usage some of the charge goes to charging the battery while some is lost in heat. I think I read some where its normaly 30-40%. So for example a 11000mah battery will give you some where near 6600mah of charge so about 3 and half charges of the HTC One X.
I'm considering either the:
TeckNet® iEP387 7000mAh Dual-Port 2.1Amp Output Universal USB Battery Bank
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
New Trent iCruiser IMP1000 11000mAh External Battery Pack
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
Although not 100% sure I need either at the moment
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The heat loss is inevitable but the capacity should be unchanged.
What the heat loss means is that you need more than 11000mAh to charge up the full 11000mAh battery due to the losses.
The tecknet is very good value. I am considering it at the moment
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The heat loss is inevitable but the capacity should be unchanged.
What the heat loss means is that you need more than 11000mAh to charge up the full 11000mAh battery due to the losses.
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Yes but I'm talking about in the other direction. So once you have 11000mAh in the device and you charge a device that take 1800mAh you will actually use aprox 2520mAh in doing so. My numbers and calculations maybe a little flawed but my point is that you cant do a simple 11000 / 1800 = 6.1 charges as you need to take into account heat loss which is around 30 - 40% (so I read on one of the amazon reviews)
Either way both devices are nice and cost quite reasonable.
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i can try to charge my ipad when i get home haven't tried actually.
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tried it with my ipad last night and it worked great, it worked as if it was on AC
Have got the Tecknet IEP987 7000mah battery myself. Has run through two charges of a sensation XL and my Fiio Headphone amp, and still around half full.
Am more than happy with it.
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Yes but I'm talking about in the other direction. So once you have 11000mAh in the device and you charge a device that take 1800mAh you will actually use aprox 2520mAh in doing so. My numbers and calculations maybe a little flawed but my point is that you cant do a simple 11000 / 1800 = 6.1 charges as you need to take into account heat loss which is around 30 - 40% (so I read on one of the amazon reviews)
Either way both devices are nice and cost quite reasonable.
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Ah yes of course. Did not realise you were talking about the other way round charger>>phone
Not sure how efficient but if say 10% loss, we still get around 5 times charge with a 11000mAh batt. to a One X.
I am leaning towards the 7000mAh. Not sure if I need it or not...
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Ah yes of course. Did not realise you were talking about the other way round charger>>phone
Not sure how efficient but if say 10% loss, we still get around 5 times charge with a 11000mAh batt. to a One X.
I am leaning towards the 7000mAh. Not sure if I need it or not...
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Also don't forgot not to simply divide the battery pack's capacity by your phone's battery capacity to see how many times it will charge, unless you are charging it with the phone turned off.
With the phone on it is obviously using the usual amount for running the phone, whilst it is being charged. Add the current being drawn for keeping the phone running (say 250mA when awake) for the time it takes to charge (for me 2 hours) and you are looking at 500mAH. Add that to the capacity of your phone battery before dividing it by the capacity of your battery pack to figure out how many charges you'll get from it. Figures used are just for example purposes. Use a current widget if you want to know how much your phone is using.
Plus like a phone's battery, a new battery pack will take several charge cycles to reach full performance. Where as with a phone's battery which only takes about 2 weeks (charging it every day), a battery pack will take that much longer to get the full performance out of, as you wont likely be charging it more than once a week/month.
And then there's the battery indicators. These New Trent ones look sensible, but I once purchased a Proporta Turbocharger 5000mAHr unit. It had three blue LED battery status lights that were always on if charging. If you looked directly at them they'd burn your retinas out your skull. They could be seen from space. Stupidly and comically bright. They HAD to eat into some of the capacity.
Copper losses over the cable at the distances involved in your average charging cable will be negligible. If you really want to reduce it, don't use those silly skinny retracting yo-yo charging cable things that some of them come with. Use a decent quality USB to microUSB cable. The higher the guage of the cable and quality of copper, the less volt-drop there is. I keep a good few of these kicking about at home as they are well made but not too costly, and come with a nice cable tidy clasp...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-NOKIA-CA-101-CA101-USB-DATA-CABLE-LEAD-5230-/140579882085?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccesories_MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item20bb36c465
fi3ry_icy said:
since the battery isnt gonna be removable, i am currently considering buying a portable charger..
here are some i found.. would like an opinion on which capacity would be good..
http://www.netimes.com/shop/power-master-9600mah-portable-mobile-power-p-3052.html?cPath=445_711
http://www.netimes.com/shop/2000mah...pack-with-led-light-p-3264.html?cPath=445_711
http://www.netimes.com/shop/dualport-5000mah-external-battery-pack-p-3109.html?cPath=80_731
http://mobilemate.yetaa.com/accessories/pineng-5000mah-power-bank.html
the last link has the same capacity as the 2nd last but it is way cheaper.. is it safe?
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here u go..
posted this in another thread..
cheers..