I was just wondering whether external batteries are generally quite reliable, and if so what the best brands are to go for? I am looking for a relatively powerful one - I am not afraid of a little bit of cost, but obviously I don't want to spend masses.
Thanks
Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
I have a "Just Mobile Pro" or something like that.
4400mAh with 1000mA output.
But the EasyAcc 5600mAh (which I don't have) does sound better and cheaper (on Amazon).
Second new trents 11000mah one that thing is a beast
Chartist said:
Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
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Second new trents 11000mah one that thing is a beast
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yeah i got that bad boy too and its a beast. well worth the price
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Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
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Thanks not heard of New Trent before. Looks good. Can you confirm it's output charging current though? I can't find the spec on it anywhere. I'm assuming it's the full 1A, as it says it can charge an iPad, but could you please confirm? Looks like I'll be needing one!
Cheers.
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Thanks not heard of New Trent before. Looks good. Can you confirm it's output charging current though? I can't find the spec on it anywhere. I'm assuming it's the full 1A, as it says it can charge an iPad, but could you please confirm? Looks like I'll be needing one!
Cheers.
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i can try to charge my ipad when i get home haven't tried actually.
I bought the Anker 5600mAh battery for my HTC Desire. Great quality, compact and it fits in my pocket very nicely. I bought it for $30 on ebay
http://www.ianker.com/products_astronew.html
gordongartrell said:
I bought the Anker 5600mAh battery for my HTC Desire. Great quality, compact and it fits in my pocket very nicely. I bought it for $30 on ebay
http://www.ianker.com/products_astronew.html
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Flashlight feature's a nice touch.
isound portable external battery. Has built in flashlight too. Comes in two flavors, 16000mah and 8000mah.
If you look around you can find it cheaper elsewhere
http://www.isound.net/shop-by-type/accessories/i-sound-portable-power-16000-mah.html
Zagg Sparq 2.0 6000mah. Not worth the $100. Went on sale for $50 before..
Love the design and its built it power plugs. Loses charge over time. Google user reviews.
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php
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Flashlight feature's a nice touch.
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It's good and bad . I was on the train heading home from work and I was charging my phone with the Anker charger. I accidentally pressed the power button twice and the flashlight turned on. Sitting across from me was this fairly attractive woman with a skirt on. She automatically crossed her legs and looked at me weird. I hope she doesn't think that i'm a pervert.
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It's good and bad . I was on the train heading home from work and I was charging my phone with the Anker charger. I accidentally pressed the power button twice and the flashlight turned on. Sitting across from me was this fairly attractive woman with a skirt on. She automatically crossed her legs and looked at me weird. I hope she doesn't think that i'm a pervert.
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Hah! Good thing I didn't have a mouthful of soda there...
Good thing to remember with external battery packs is that during usage some of the charge goes to charging the battery while some is lost in heat. I think I read some where its normaly 30-40%. So for example a 11000mah battery will give you some where near 6600mah of charge so about 3 and half charges of the HTC One X.
I'm considering either the:
TeckNet® iEP387 7000mAh Dual-Port 2.1Amp Output Universal USB Battery Bank
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
New Trent iCruiser IMP1000 11000mAh External Battery Pack
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
Although not 100% sure I need either at the moment
HTC-Gunge said:
Good thing to remember with external battery packs is that during usage some of the charge goes to charging the battery while some is lost in heat. I think I read some where its normaly 30-40%. So for example a 11000mah battery will give you some where near 6600mah of charge so about 3 and half charges of the HTC One X.
I'm considering either the:
TeckNet® iEP387 7000mAh Dual-Port 2.1Amp Output Universal USB Battery Bank
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
New Trent iCruiser IMP1000 11000mAh External Battery Pack
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
Although not 100% sure I need either at the moment
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The heat loss is inevitable but the capacity should be unchanged.
What the heat loss means is that you need more than 11000mAh to charge up the full 11000mAh battery due to the losses.
The tecknet is very good value. I am considering it at the moment
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The heat loss is inevitable but the capacity should be unchanged.
What the heat loss means is that you need more than 11000mAh to charge up the full 11000mAh battery due to the losses.
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Yes but I'm talking about in the other direction. So once you have 11000mAh in the device and you charge a device that take 1800mAh you will actually use aprox 2520mAh in doing so. My numbers and calculations maybe a little flawed but my point is that you cant do a simple 11000 / 1800 = 6.1 charges as you need to take into account heat loss which is around 30 - 40% (so I read on one of the amazon reviews)
Either way both devices are nice and cost quite reasonable.
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i can try to charge my ipad when i get home haven't tried actually.
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tried it with my ipad last night and it worked great, it worked as if it was on AC
Have got the Tecknet IEP987 7000mah battery myself. Has run through two charges of a sensation XL and my Fiio Headphone amp, and still around half full.
Am more than happy with it.
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Yes but I'm talking about in the other direction. So once you have 11000mAh in the device and you charge a device that take 1800mAh you will actually use aprox 2520mAh in doing so. My numbers and calculations maybe a little flawed but my point is that you cant do a simple 11000 / 1800 = 6.1 charges as you need to take into account heat loss which is around 30 - 40% (so I read on one of the amazon reviews)
Either way both devices are nice and cost quite reasonable.
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Ah yes of course. Did not realise you were talking about the other way round charger>>phone
Not sure how efficient but if say 10% loss, we still get around 5 times charge with a 11000mAh batt. to a One X.
I am leaning towards the 7000mAh. Not sure if I need it or not...
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Ah yes of course. Did not realise you were talking about the other way round charger>>phone
Not sure how efficient but if say 10% loss, we still get around 5 times charge with a 11000mAh batt. to a One X.
I am leaning towards the 7000mAh. Not sure if I need it or not...
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Also don't forgot not to simply divide the battery pack's capacity by your phone's battery capacity to see how many times it will charge, unless you are charging it with the phone turned off.
With the phone on it is obviously using the usual amount for running the phone, whilst it is being charged. Add the current being drawn for keeping the phone running (say 250mA when awake) for the time it takes to charge (for me 2 hours) and you are looking at 500mAH. Add that to the capacity of your phone battery before dividing it by the capacity of your battery pack to figure out how many charges you'll get from it. Figures used are just for example purposes. Use a current widget if you want to know how much your phone is using.
Plus like a phone's battery, a new battery pack will take several charge cycles to reach full performance. Where as with a phone's battery which only takes about 2 weeks (charging it every day), a battery pack will take that much longer to get the full performance out of, as you wont likely be charging it more than once a week/month.
And then there's the battery indicators. These New Trent ones look sensible, but I once purchased a Proporta Turbocharger 5000mAHr unit. It had three blue LED battery status lights that were always on if charging. If you looked directly at them they'd burn your retinas out your skull. They could be seen from space. Stupidly and comically bright. They HAD to eat into some of the capacity.
Copper losses over the cable at the distances involved in your average charging cable will be negligible. If you really want to reduce it, don't use those silly skinny retracting yo-yo charging cable things that some of them come with. Use a decent quality USB to microUSB cable. The higher the guage of the cable and quality of copper, the less volt-drop there is. I keep a good few of these kicking about at home as they are well made but not too costly, and come with a nice cable tidy clasp...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-NOKIA-CA-101-CA101-USB-DATA-CABLE-LEAD-5230-/140579882085?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccesories_MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item20bb36c465
fi3ry_icy said:
since the battery isnt gonna be removable, i am currently considering buying a portable charger..
here are some i found.. would like an opinion on which capacity would be good..
http://www.netimes.com/shop/power-master-9600mah-portable-mobile-power-p-3052.html?cPath=445_711
http://www.netimes.com/shop/2000mah...pack-with-led-light-p-3264.html?cPath=445_711
http://www.netimes.com/shop/dualport-5000mah-external-battery-pack-p-3109.html?cPath=80_731
http://mobilemate.yetaa.com/accessories/pineng-5000mah-power-bank.html
the last link has the same capacity as the 2nd last but it is way cheaper.. is it safe?
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here u go..
posted this in another thread..
cheers..
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Anyone saw this yet? It is pretty expensive though, lol:
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-3500-mAh-Battery-Backup-Solar-Charger-P83981.htm
I saw this on Fommy.com and was thinking about getting it.
How exactly does it work?
Does it charge it's own battery if not plugged in to the phone, then later when there is no sun you can charge your phone of the charged battery?
If so, that is kinda bad ass.
Yeah I think that is how it does work. If not, than that price is not worth it, lmao. Hopefully it works as how you described it though.
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Yeah I think that is how it does work. If not, than that price is not worth it, lmao. Hopefully it works as how you described it though.
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That is exactly how it works. It has a 3500 mAh battery battery built in. For comparison the Vibrant comes stock with a 1500 mAh battery.
That's actually not a bad price, considering that a 2500 mAh Innocell from Seidio will cost you about the same. The Innocell is an internal battery with a replacement back cover. I was going to get one but I'll probably get the Amzer now.
For comparison shopping you can go to ThinkGeek dot com and search for "solar charger" to find the 4 or so they sell. They even have a $200 for laptops.
Follow instructions for usage. Do not overheat or overexpose the Amzer Solar Charger to direct or indirect sunlight and AC/ USB charge.
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WTH? Do not expose to direct sunlight? How is it a solar charger then? Idiotic legal disclaimers. This one's right up there with "Do not insert screwdriver into eye."
Nice. So basically it is worth it?
I say it depends. If I need more batteries I'd rather get them separately and have a charger specifically for it like the ones you can find on ebay.
Taking out the old battery and popping in the new one only takes a minute while charging from a solar battery could take who knows how long.
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That is exactly how it works. It has a 3500 mAh battery battery built in. For comparison the Vibrant comes stock with a 1500 mAh battery.
That's actually not a bad price, considering that a 2500 mAh Innocell from Seidio will cost you about the same. The Innocell is an internal battery with a replacement back cover. I was going to get one but I'll probably get the Amzer now.
For comparison shopping you can go to ThinkGeek dot com and search for "solar charger" to find the 4 or so they sell. They even have a $200 for laptops.
WTH? Do not expose to direct sunlight? How is it a solar charger then? Idiotic legal disclaimers. This one's right up there with "Do not insert screwdriver into eye."
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direct sunlight means lots of heat (over 100F on a good summer day), lots of heat is not good for batteries. solar charger does not mean it charges from sun.......it needs any light source.
Follow instructions for usage. Do not overheat or overexpose the Amzer Solar Charger to direct or indirect sunlight and AC/ USB charge.
LOL
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direct sunlight means lots of heat (over 100F on a good summer day), lots of heat is not good for batteries. solar charger does not mean it charges from sun.......it needs any light source.
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lol.
mini semi scientific answer: they use heat to turn into electricity, and it's not that efficient, but it's enough to work (and gets better every year).
So sure, any light source might work, but something other than the sun will basically not work that well. Having it in a lighted room will do zero for it, for example.
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lol.
mini semi scientific answer: they use heat to turn into electricity, and it's not that efficient, but it's enough to work (and gets better every year).
So sure, any light source might work, but something other than the sun will basically not work that well. Having it in a lighted room will do zero for it, for example.
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yeah, but there is a battery in side as well. if it was just a solar charger then yes, more sun = better
I saw a similar product on Dealextreme for much cheaper. From the feedback the important thing is to find out if the charging current is at least 700mA. If not the Vibrant might not be charged properly.
Here are the ones from DE: http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.1101~search.solar usb charger
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lol.
mini semi scientific answer: they use heat to turn into electricity, and it's not that efficient, but it's enough to work (and gets better every year).
So sure, any light source might work, but something other than the sun will basically not work that well. Having it in a lighted room will do zero for it, for example.
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A solar cell does NOT use heat to produce electricity, it uses light waves. Full spectrum light is the most efficient but any light source will work.
The waves impact the cell and cause a potential difference on the diode, this then creates a current in the cell. Heat is actually BAD for solar cells, the cooler they are the more current they produce. This is one of the reasons that solar panels in snowy environments can produce more electricity than cells in the south. Reflected light off the snow is another reason.
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I saw a similar product on Dealextreme for much cheaper. From the feedback the important thing is to find out if the charging current is at least 700mA. If not the Vibrant might not be charged properly.
Here are the ones from DE: http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.1101~search.solar usb charger
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It's cheaper because you get less. 1800 MAh as compared to 3500 MAh storage.
I looked up the reviews of the Amzer solar one on amazon and it didn't look too promising.
I decided to get this one (no solar):
And for those in windy areas...
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Follow instructions for usage. Do not overheat or overexpose the Amzer Solar Charger to direct or indirect sunlight and AC/ USB charge.
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People, the warning is not to put it in sunlight. It is to not put it in sunlight AND have it plugged into the AC/USB charger — thus providing 'double' charging.
Solar or not
<$20
You might want to look for one that includes a std usb adapter so you can use it w the oem cable for whatever phone/gadget, or get an Amzer mini-to-micro usb adaper for $5 (and get an adapter for your future phone, too).
But yeah. $70 is a little steep. I'd rather get two of these. You could get 4 for that price.
Edit: Im liking this. It says the battery can be replaced, and it doesn't say with what,exactly, but it looks AA sized to me. It has all the adapters, the port you plug your phone into is usb (yeah, you could probably scrap the cable and the adapters), and it looks like it chrges via the same port. None of these parts is entirely enticing, but the stuff in the bag, not to mention the bag, is a MacGyver use-for-everything in whatever way you need package. I think part of the appeal to me is the mystery as to whether it really is as all-purpose as I think it is. I love this kind of Asian innovation. I'm very tempted to support it. If I do, I'll report back.
OK, while I'm at it: $7, free shipping, with std usb so you can use your OEM cable.
Amzer sells a lot of overpriced stuff, this is one of many
solar chargers
Well i was looking for one and i got from dealextreme , but after 3 months, its not charging properly. Not sure why?! My brother got for me one and its good, he said he got from Chinabuye, its online store from China. Good battery life. so far so good.
Amzer is JUNK
Amzer makes JUNK. Purchased their junk before and it's not worth it even if it was free.
The owner of Amzer, basically gets Chinese manufacturers to make his junk and label it Amzer. His products are the same junk you can find on ebay for 50 cents.
This is BS.
Gonna try them out...not sure what i'm gonna get but for 13 bucks worth a try
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-2000mAh-Batt...330459330057?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_4942wt_911
Highly doubtful 2000ma batteries, probably 1500ma batteries that are really 1300ma. Tutoit on ebay I have 2x1500ma batteries for a 9.98$ shipped with a charger, I would get that instead.
yeah, either get the 2 1500s and the charger for 11 50
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290444598681#ht_1730wt_1137
or the 1800 and the charger for 11 50
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Battery...250661003311?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_3119wt_911
jayv1717 said:
Gonna try them out...not sure what i'm gonna get but for 13 bucks worth a try
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-2000mAh-Batt...330459330057?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_4942wt_911
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I was just looking at this... seems like a great idea... the extra charger allows you to keep a second battery charged without using the EVO to do it. Even if it's really a lower rated battery... still a good deal.
Did you try it?
Trident said:
I was just looking at this... seems like a great idea... the extra charger allows you to keep a second battery charged without using the EVO to do it. Even if it's really a lower rated battery... still a good deal.
Did you try it?
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I ordered it, but still waiting...those hong kong shipments take a while, i'll let you know as soon as I test it out
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I have a set of the 1500 mah batteries with the charger as was posted above, and I have no problem with them. I use my OEM battery most of the time, but sometimes it is handy to have some fully-charged back-ups. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between what my OEM battery lasts and the knock-offs. For the price, you can't beat it.
so how are the batteries?
normally i would stay way from cheap Chinese crap on eBay, but with what i read here on the xda boards in regaurds t othe ok qualitybeing good enough that they might work out, so i ordered 2x1850 plus charger from ebay. i dont have time to do any real testing but i can say that:
1 not having to charge the battery from the phone is nice
2 i always have one on the charger, one in my pocket and one in the phone.
3 charging in the base seems to get me a better charge
4 i cant tell a difference between oem and knock offs, although you would think that the 1800's would last longer than the 1500oem but we know how that knock off crap goes. in my book if they are the same as oem, regardless as to what they claim and dont require a bigger back plate, then i guess that's good enough.
The 2 from tutoit or what ever the sellers name is work great last as long or longer then my stock battery. The charger also gives a better charge to the batteries then I get through my phone I'm talking extra hours when I charge with it.
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yeah, either get the 2 1500s and the charger for 11 50
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I got this and it's a good deal for the price.
The batteries aren't as good as oem. Probably last 75-80% as long.
The charger works well though and it's nice to have a couple extra batts laying around. I've only cycled them 4 or 5 times so I suppose the life could improve...time will tell.
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I have a set of the 1500 mah batteries with the charger as was posted above, and I have no problem with them. I use my OEM battery most of the time, but sometimes it is handy to have some fully-charged back-ups. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between what my OEM battery lasts and the knock-offs. For the price, you can't beat it.
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I Have a number of Minor issues with mine. Must of gotten a bad set.
1) USB port on the charger does not output enough juice to charge the phone (Accually Locks it up until I unplug it)
2) Charger seems hit or miss on recharging the Stock Battery. I've left it plugged in all night and come back to ~20% charge when I pop it in a number of times
3) Random Screen cut off when charging the Replacements IN the phone.
So I only charge the Ghetto batteries in the charger provided.
That being said, I STILL think it's a great deal and more than happy with my purchase. I have 2 spare batteries for my phone (Or the wifes CDMA Hero) and a way to charge one w/o having to leave my phone behind (I don't have to babysit my phone for a charge, If someone walks out of the poker room or party with my charger and battery it's no big deal) The 2 China batts. are just emergency tanks, The Red one gets put back in as soon as I get home.
Best Purchase at twice the price.
Don't wait press the BUY NOW!!!!
Loved the first set so much that I purchased a second set 2 weeks later. I keep 1 set at work and 1 set at home. I always carrying a fully charged battery in plastic bag in my pocket. I love the EVO but hate the battery life. The first month I owned the EVO was hell for me having to carry a power charger and cable everywhere. I hated having to plug my phone in every time I found a power outlet worried if I didn't I may find myself without a phone when I needed it or having to fight everyone at the airports for power outlets. Now when I'm low on juice, I just switch batteries.... BUY NOW you'll never regret it....
I purchased 2 3500 batteries with new backs on e-bay for $22 and change. They work great I can go for over a day with fairly heavy usage.
Only minor problem was that with the phone thicker my silicone case doesn't fit as good. Extra weight no problem.
Yeah one thing I have learned from buying these types of batteries and charger is that they don't like to charge the OEM batteries but charge the cheapo ones just fine. I've noticed it on alot of things not just phone batteries.
buy it for the charger
i bought a 2000mAh that turned out to be a 900mAh so i would only buy it for the charger.
I wouldn't recommend the 2 x 1500 batteries plus charters the 1500's seem like a 1300 or a little less I would say try get the 1800 one from eBay they have a lot of auctions for them so all you gotta do is be patient and try to get for cheap that's what I'm tryin to do
Just ordered one of the 1800mah.. will see how this works out!
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Hi,
I wasn't sure where to put this so feel free to move it where it need be.
I recently got a new HD7 (love it!!! ) but unfortunately the battery leaves a little to be desired, it only has a 1230mAh battery. This spring i need to survive a 15hr bus ride to Florida with no plugs in site for the whole time. So my question is who has a portable charger they like and or one that will help me last 15hr? I am looking at the Power Mat portable 2x which should give me almost 7 full charges on it 7800mAh but I am game for anything that will give me lots of power.
Thanks!
nat1 said:
Hi,
I wasn't sure where to put this so feel free to move it where it need be.
I recently got a new HD7 (love it!!! ) but unfortunately the battery leaves a little to be desired, it only has a 1230mAh battery. This spring i need to survive a 15hr bus ride to Florida with no plugs in site for the whole time. So my question is who has a portable charger they like and or one that will help me last 15hr? I am looking at the Power Mat portable 2x which should give me almost 7 full charges on it 7800mAh but I am game for anything that will give me lots of power.
Thanks!
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look at this : http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc/htc-hd7-t-mobile-9292.html
you can buy 1800MAh or 3900mAh
hd2leo_fusion said:
look at this : http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc/htc-hd7-t-mobile-9292.html
you can buy 1800MAh or 3900mAh
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hummm....... Any idea how long the life time of these is?
nat1 said:
hummm....... Any idea how long the life time of these is?
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nop but mugen make very stronger battery life so u can't buy it eyes closed(i ordered one for my 7 mozart,i wait it )
here is the link for other user using mugen battery for their HTC
-http://bit.ly/dpWGYS
well.... I picked up the powermat, I have to admit its incredible..... its a great accessory for anyone on the go.
That non-standard batteries are ugly!
I have APC UPB10 - portable USB-battery. It is very compact and has capacity nearly 10x more than standard HTC HD7 battery. This thing charges all my gadgets when I am not at home. And I've never been in situation when my portable charger was totally run out of power.
I wanted to get QI charger w/ my Nexus and ended up getting one that included a 10,000 mAh powerbank for basically the same price.
I thought it was going to feel pretty cheap, but to my surprise it seems like its pretty good quality. For 40 bucks for both a QI and a power bank in one it's pretty kick arse! So be forewarned the "IN STOCK" status is BS it ships from China so don't expect within a week; I think I got mine in 3 weeks.
Also the instructions are horrendous, not sure who translated it but its actually comedy. I think says something like... "Use it if it bulges, smells or smokes." (instead of dont) and has FAQ's that have no questions. Literally every line in the instructions does not make sense.
So you can use this as a normal QI charger. As a powerbank you can use QI or plug it in through the USB ports (2) which makes more sense so you dont have 30% power loss as with QI. Powerbank is same shape as phone just about twice as thick and slightly larger width and length. Finished material is smooth so if you have a hard plastic case it may easily slide off or not become centered well enough to charge. I have a case no issues charging through the case. It does also get a full charge and it does not get my phone more than warm (same as wall charger).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FS1NTMW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
*not much but you can save a little here:
forgot to mention you can Save 5% on Qi Wireless Charger Transmitter 10000mAh Mobile Power Bank(ASIN:B00FS1NTMW) when you purchase 1 or more Qi Standard Wireless Charging Receiver offered by Docooler. Enter code 3VYHPR39 at checkout.
Enter code 3VYHPR39
I'd be very interested in a test to see what the actual capacity of this is. Im always wary with a no name brand battery from China because they tend to always overstate their battery capacities. Wish there were some reviews, but I might give it a go anyway to test it out myself.
Looks interesting, but the lack of reviews make it sound dubious
loooller said:
Looks interesting, but the lack of reviews make it sound dubious
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Its weird how almost all of the qi power banks on amazon have no reviews. Seems like something everyone should have. Ridiculously useful. I am wondering why the one posted above is a good 25% cheaper than all the others of the same 10,000 mah capacity though.
Would absolutely love for the OP to test how many full charges of the Nexus 5 he could get from the device using USB and then Wireless charging, but that would probably take a while. Also OP, when you say that the case is smooth, is it smooth like the soft touch plastic on the back of the Nexus 5 or smooth like the shiny plastic on galaxy phones?
I'm waiting for RavPower Qi Wireless Charging Pad with a built-in 4800mAh battery coming back in stock. It seems like a great fit with my Nexus 5 as I checked a review from WPCentral.
Ordered one
Just ordered one. Will let you guys know when I get it, what it's like!
muyoso said:
Would absolutely love for the OP to test how many full charges of the Nexus 5 he could get from the device using USB and then Wireless charging, but that would probably take a while. Also OP, when you say that the case is smooth, is it smooth like the soft touch plastic on the back of the Nexus 5 or smooth like the shiny plastic on galaxy phones?
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no problem but may be a few days I'm getting over a day cycle on my nexus so far. I bought it mostly for the QI charger the bank was a bonus/ I will keep a log but try and get full cycles out of it to make it easier.
As far as the smoothness it is more like the shiny plastic on the galaxy phones. My phone has a plastic case it doesn't slide to much but I could see if it got bumped it would move. I had bought a screen protector someone posted that i don't like it's kind of rubbery or tacky feel i was thinking about taking it off and putting it on the charger so it was a little more "grippy".
Give me a few days I'll put up some stats for you
muyoso said:
I'd be very interested in a test to see what the actual capacity of this is. Im always wary with a no name brand battery from China because they tend to always overstate their battery capacities. Wish there were some reviews, but I might give it a go anyway to test it out myself.
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PS They ALL come from China lol
jeremykersh said:
PS They ALL come from China lol
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Oh I know, but the ones sold under the badge of Samsung or LG are usually dead on their mah capacity ratings. Not so much for random Chinese brands I havent heard of before.
Hindo2 said:
I'm waiting for RavPower Qi Wireless Charging Pad with a built-in 4800mAh battery coming back in stock. It seems like a great fit with my Nexus 5 as I checked a review from WPCentral.
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Amazons having a 50% off deal on battery packs if you buy the RAVpower qi charger. I just picked up the charger and a RAV 8400mAh pack for just over 60 bucks. I've been wanting both for a while now and this deal was just to good to pass up. I do a lot of backpacking and have been debating between a battery pack vs. a solar charger for some time now as well. The pack is actually lighter than any of the solar charges I was looking at. And for 18 bucks was a no brainer.
so here are some stats on this as a power bank not sure how much power loss over a few days is normal but after a full charge of the bank using the cable here is what I came up with:
night one charger started at 51% .49 of the full 2300 mAh nexus 5 battery = 1127 mAh
night two started at 18% .82 = 1886
night three started at 22% .78 = 1794
night four started at 28% .72 = 1656
night five started at 9% died at 32% = 529
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TOTAL mAh= 6992
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so here are some stats on this as a power bank not sure how much power loss over a few days is normal but after a full charge of the bank using the cable here is what I came up with:
night one charger started at 51% .49 of the full 2300 mAh nexus 5 battery = 1127 mAh
night two started at 18% .82 = 1886
night three started at 22% .78 = 1794
night four started at 28% .72 = 1656
night five started at 9% died at 32% = 529
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TOTAL mAh= 6992
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Interesting. And that is using the cable and not the Qi wireless charging? Its always said that Qi will have around a 30% loss in efficiency, which would make your numbers perfectly in line with what a 10,000 mah battery should do. Of course if you were using a cable it might just be that the low cost of the device translates to a less efficient transfer of energy. Still able to get roughly 3 full charges out of the power bank is pretty awesome.
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Interesting. And that is using the cable and not the Qi wireless charging? Its always said that Qi will have around a 30% loss in efficiency, which would make your numbers perfectly in line with what a 10,000 mah battery should do. Of course if you were using a cable it might just be that the low cost of the device translates to a less efficient transfer of energy. Still able to get roughly 3 full charges out of the power bank is pretty awesome.
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Yea thats through the cable, I know even turned off there is power loss on rechargeable batteries but I don't know what is normal power degradation equates to in a percentage. I agree though roughly 3 full charges may not be a full 10,000 mAh bank, but at the price even if it equates to a 7000 bank its not bad. Throw in the QI (which is mainly what I bought this for anyway) and this is pretty sweet deal :laugh:
I'll do it again and see what I come up with for round 2
Does it have an auto shut off function?
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mierkat09 said:
Does it have an auto shut off function?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using xda app-developers app
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it does shut off once it gets a full charge, using the cable as a powerbank. Never tried QI as a bank doesn't make sense so don't know this way.
Got 2 new batteries and I want to keep them for a while, so I have a few questions:
1. Is the OEM fast-charge charger and cable okay to use every day, or will it degrade the battery faster than a slower/regular speed charger/cable?
2. Since I have 2 batteries now, which is the best way to charge them both up? charge 1 in the phone, then swap and charge the other in the phone? Or buy a battery charger (and if so, which one)?
3. Any other helps regarding the chargers and/or cables?Thank you for your help.
Faster charging will always generate more heat and put more stress on the battery, so slower charging would be better for a battery's lifespan, but I don't think you'll see a huge difference within two years.
By far the fastest way to keep going is having the second battery charged in an external battery charger and then swap when the other battery gets low, followed by charging the low battery in the external charger. Doing it this way also puts the least wear-and-tear on the phone's charging port since you'll rarely use it. I use LG's OEM external battery charging cradle (BCK-5200), but it may be hard to find nowadays. There's currently a used one up for sale in an auction by an American seller on eBay, and there are new ones from a South Korean seller for a higher fixed price. I wouldn't pay more than $25 for one. As for charging time, for me, it takes about 4 hours to charge my MaxxxJuice 4100 mAh batteries from ~5–10% to full. External chargers do not fast-charge, so you'll never put too much stress on the battery that way. Of course, swapping may not be for everyone as it may be inconvenient to take a case off and put it back on.
Unlike the older microUSB cables, bad USB Type-C cables that are not built to certain specifications can draw higher currents and destroy the devices they are charging. A few years ago, a Google engineer reviewed lots of USB-C cables on Amazon to give his view on those. If you need a third-party cable, make sure you get one from a reputable source with good reviews. My preferred USB cable is Anker's Powerline+ due to their extra strength/thickness, and I don't need much flexibility/twistability in my cables. Also, I like how the USB-C end connector is made of one single piece where you don't see any connecting lines around the middle (you can see an example here).
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As long as there is a supply of extra batteries around and you can afford to buy them when the time comes, then you shouldn't worry much about how you charge your phone. In my opinion, that is one of the main selling points of having a hand-removable battery. I imagine a paranoid person on a phone with a sealed battery would be trying to keep the battery level between 40 and 80% at all times. So really, the only thing to worry about is having a decent USB-C cable and making sure the phone's charging port is clean and not worn out.
In case you are really interested on my detailed charging habits and related things on my V20, I discussed them while reviewing my batteries a while back on the V20 Subreddit.
Thanks!
C D said:
Faster charging will always generate more heat and put more stress on the battery, so slower charging would be better for a battery's lifespan, but I don't think you'll see a huge difference within two years.
By far the fastest way to keep going is having the second battery charged in an external battery charger and then swap when the other battery gets low, followed by charging the low battery in the external charger. Doing it this way also puts the least wear-and-tear on the phone's charging port since you'll rarely use it. I use LG's OEM external battery charging cradle (BCK-5200), but it may be hard to find nowadays. There's currently a used one up for sale in an auction by an American seller on eBay, and there are new ones from a South Korean seller for a higher fixed price. I wouldn't pay more than $25 for one. As for charging time, for me, it takes about 4 hours to charge my MaxxxJuice 4100 mAh batteries from ~5–10% to full. External chargers do not fast-charge, so you'll never put too much stress on the battery that way. Of course, swapping may not be for everyone as it may be inconvenient to take a case off and put it back on.
Unlike the older microUSB cables, bad USB Type-C cables that are not built to certain specifications can draw higher currents and destroy the devices they are charging. A few years ago, a Google engineer reviewed lots of USB-C cables on Amazon to give his view on those. If you need a third-party cable, make sure you get one from a reputable source with good reviews. My preferred USB cable is Anker's Powerline+ due to their extra strength/thickness, and I don't need much flexibility/twistability in my cables. Also, I like how the USB-C end connector is made of one single piece where you don't see any connecting lines around the middle (you can see an example here).
Other thoughts:
As long as there is a supply of extra batteries around and you can afford to buy them when the time comes, then you shouldn't worry much about how you charge your phone. In my opinion, that is one of the main selling points of having a hand-removable battery. I imagine a paranoid person on a phone with a sealed battery would be trying to keep the battery level between 40 and 80% at all times. So really, the only thing to worry about is having a decent USB-C cable and making sure the phone's charging port is clean and not worn out.
In case you are really interested on my detailed charging habits and related things on my V20, I discussed them while reviewing my batteries a while back on the V20 Subreddit.
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On that Subreddit, you mentioned you cycled a couple batteries. Did you have to do the whole fully charge and fully drain thing each time you switched to the new battery, or just when you first bought the batteries?
Would like to know the answer to ^this^ as well.
baldybill said:
On that Subreddit, you mentioned you cycled a couple batteries. Did you have to do the whole fully charge and fully drain thing each time you switched to the new battery, or just when you first bought the batteries?
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Would like to know the answer to ^this^ as well.
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No, I only did the full cycle with the first battery three times, and that was it. The only reason to do that is for the Android software of the phone to get a better sense of your battery level. Of course, it won't be as accurate the longer you go swapping between batteries as undoubtedly they will differ a bit in capacity over time. But fully running down and then fully charging a battery isn't good for its lifespan if you do it too often. The only other times you'd have to really repeat the calibration is when switching to a battery with a different capacity or switching ROMs / doing a factory reset.
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No, I only did the full cycle with the first battery three times, and that was it. The only reason to do that is for the Android software of the phone to get a better sense of your battery level. Of course, it won't be as accurate the longer you go swapping between batteries as undoubtedly they will differ a bit in capacity over time. But fully running down and then fully charging a battery isn't good for its lifespan if you do it too often. The only other times you'd have to really repeat the calibration is when switching to a battery with a different capacity or switching ROMs / doing a factory reset.
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So, I got a 4000 Powerbear that I'm calibrating now.
I'm also getting a 4100 Perfine.
Are they close enough that I shouldn't have to recalibrate for the 4100?
baldybill said:
So, I got a 4000 Powerbear that I'm calibrating now.
I'm also getting a 4100 Perfine.
Are they close enough that I shouldn't have to recalibrate for the 4100?
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Most likely yes. I imagine most of these 4000–4300 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that started popping up this year are very similar, and some may just be rebranded from the same common factory source. Barring a defective battery, if the two batteries had a significant difference in capacity, you could see things like early shutdowns on the smaller capacity one or being stuck at a low percentage for an unusually long amount of time on the larger capacity one.
Great info.
So it looks like all other batteries on hand should not be put into rotation with the higher capacity batteries to avoid inaccurate readings in Android.
pistacios said:
Great info.
So it looks like all other batteries on hand should not be put into rotation with the higher capacity batteries to avoid inaccurate readings in Android.
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Pretty much this. I suppose one could try keeping separate copies of the batterystats.bin file from /data/system when rooted and swap them alongside the different batteries. But that sounds like too much of a pain to deal with, even if it works.
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Most likely yes. I imagine most of these 4000–4300 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that started popping up this year are very similar, and some may just be rebranded from the same common factory source. Barring a defective battery, if the two batteries had a significant difference in capacity, you could see things like early shutdowns on the smaller capacity one or being stuck at a low percentage for an unusually long amount of time on the larger capacity one.
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pistacios said:
Great info.
So it looks like all other batteries on hand should not be put into rotation with the higher capacity batteries to avoid inaccurate readings in Android.
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C D said:
Pretty much this. I suppose one could try keeping separate copies of the batterystats.bin file from /data/system when rooted and swap them alongside the different batteries. But that sounds like too much of a pain to deal with, even if it works.
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Just to add to this, I found your pics @C D for the charging instructions and there's a note about using 3200mah batteries along with the 4100mah batteries.
pistacios said:
Just to add to this, I found your pics @C D for the charging instructions and there's a note about using 3200mah batteries along with the 4100mah batteries.
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Does that mean that if you switch between the batteries, they'll both last as long as they should (the 4100 longer time than the orig. 3200), but the system's percent will be wrong?
My understanding is that if you calibrate the phone to recognize the full 4100mah and then use a 3200mah battery, it will shut down early (but still use the full 3200mah).
Correct. They are warning you that swapping between batteries of significantly different capacities will throw off the accuracy of the phone's battery percentage indicator at all times, especially at the high and low percent values (so an early shutdown can happen when the smaller capacity battery is used). Of course, this won't affect either battery's true capacity.
I'd pay good money for a system that can correctly handle different battery capacities of any amount, but we all know where the future of hand-removable batteries has been heading for the last 3–4 years.
Does anyone charge their phone ONLY to 80 % or so?
If so, what apps do you use to limit this? Any other tips/advice?
baldybill said:
Does anyone charge their phone ONLY to 80 % or so?
If so, what apps do you use to limit this? Any other tips/advice?
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I use AccuBattery and it has a notification sound that plays when you hit the target charge percentage, but it's still up to you to remove the phone from the charger or else it continues charging to 100%.
Since our phones have replaceable batteries, I haven't made any special effort to take care of them. I have a pair of May '17 OEM 3200 mAh batteries that are going to get switched out for a pair of new 4100+ mAh Li-Po batteries once I get my second V20 set up. Every charger I use is QuickCharge 3.0 certified except for USB on my PCs and my Pioneer Android Auto headunit USB connection in one car. The vast majority of the time, I charge via QC 3.0. Pretty much the only time I let the battery charge via PC USB is when I actually need to transfer files between the phone and computer.
Before my phone started having issues in the past month with a phantom power drain, I would let the phone charge from 30-40% to 80-90% and then remove it from the charger at night before going to sleep. In the last half year as the batteries have aged, I've let it get up to between 90-95% before unplugging. For the past month, I've been charging the phone four times a day from 40-100% to combat the power drain issue, but that comes with knowing that I don't care about these old batteries or the state of the firmware on this first V20 anymore.
As for when I swapped the two batteries I have, that entirely depended on when I actually ran one down so far that I needed a 0-100% battery swap, which could be months at a time and usually happened while on vacation or away from a charging source for a longer period of time than what my usual home/car/work routine allows.