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[Q] Do I really need to flash custom rom to make GN better than it is..?

Hi
Before I jump ship and flashing custom rom, I would like to ask you this..
by gaining the benefits of..
- All those flashy new kernel
- RAM optimizations
- Speed optimizations
- SD Card speed tweak
- Zipaligned
- de-odexed
- and millions other things :/
.. would make GN "Faster/Smoother or even Better" ?
Before and after flashed, do you notice any improvement in "practical" everyday use?
Cheers

i think you should check the custom roms that are avaiable and see on wich parts they improve...

K.D.M. said:
i think you should check the custom roms that are avaiable and see on wich parts they improve...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361348

I think slippy should slow down before he blows up the engine.
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pukemon said:
I think slippy should slow down before he blows up the engine.
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What?!?!?!?!

vosszaa said:
Hi
Before I jump ship and flashing custom rom, I would like to ask you this..
by gaining the benefits of..
- All those flashy new kernel
- RAM optimizations
- Speed optimizations
- SD Card speed tweak
- Zipaligned
- de-odexed
- and millions other things :/
.. would make GN "Faster/Smoother or even Better" ?
Before and after flashed, do you notice any improvement in "practical" everyday use?
Cheers
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The particular things you quoted seem like a bunch of fluff, to me. And at least one (deodexed) actually can make things a bit slower.
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matt2053 said:
The particular things you quoted seem like a bunch of fluff, to me. And at least one (deodexed) actually can make things a bit slower.
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Then why de-odexed is always there in every custom rom? What is the purpose of it?

vosszaa said:
Then why de-odexed is always there in every custom rom? What is the purpose of it?
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when a ROM is odexed, its done to save space from its APKs, but by deodexing, its much easier to modify parts of APKs. This is primarily used when it comes to theming.
The performance impact is rather negligible, although as matt2053, it "can" make things slower.
Generally though, while the first boot or so might be slow, once that dalvik-cache gets populated, you won't really notice any differences.

I have flashed the main 2.... and not trying to mess with O/C there is some difference in the speed but not much. But you do get a few features like landscape homescreen that are nice.

Seeking Best Build Prop & Kernel Tweaks E4GT

I thought this might be a good place to ask and help those
( including myself ) to tweak the Build Prop and Kernel tweaks
using the great app Rom toolbox. And since Trial and error can sometimes spell disaster ( Brick ) I thought that by asking for already established safe but optimized settings it would be a big help. I am personally looking for faster performance and/or better battery life despite Running Blazer Rom 4.0 ( which I am very happy with...although it is my first Rom on my E4Gt ( sprint ) I am a newbie- But ambitious in learning without
bricking. Please post any optimized settings that will help anybody looking for same things. Thanks !!

Here is a good guide with explanations and codes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
Take a look.

agat63 said:
Here is a good guide with explanations and codes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
Take a look.
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Thanks for that Agat! Now I can really do some experimenting!
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JohnCorleone said:
Thanks for that Agat! Now I can really do some experimenting!
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YW.
Actually there are more sites and guides. Just google init.d tweaks or init.d scripts.
I like this particular one because of all explanations of what each line of code does.

Blazer has all these tweaks incorporated in the ROM already.
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thanks & More for tweaks
Thanks- Yes- Blazer has a very nice list of tweaks- But It is my belief that there is always room for improvement- I dont know how much- But if not- there wouldnt be a Blazer 4.1 if there wasnt. Anyhow- I added the script magic of V6 Supercharger to enhance an already great Rom and Phone. ( My battery life still had some more improvement in my opinion...) Besides the other miscellaneous tweaks I felt could be added. But- I am no expert-

Best build.prop tweaks in my humble opinion are as follows
debug.hw.sf=1
This Renders GPU with UI by default
debug.performance.tuning=1
General performance enhancement
There are a bunch of others I have written down. I will add more when I get off from work tomorrow. I have numerious tweaks in my ics rom if anyone is curious. I will be releasing it very soon «Officially» B)
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[DER KERNEL] Trinity GST - TMO [JB TW/ICS/CM9/CM10]

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Files and source:
www . der kernel . com
Flash the kernel designated for your rom, either CM9 or STOCK.
CM10....As CMX on the site (ignore it's under ics, cmx == cm10)
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Featuring:
Offering lowered voltages
Build optimizations
Performance through research
Removed wasteful debugging
Scheduler, Governor tweaks
Improved Colors (Fixed as of right now)
480MHz GPU
Up to 1836MHz or 1728 (as noted in filename)
Bull**** Free (Not pushing buzzwords to drop them later like others)

Morfic's in the Haus! Hell yah! Glad to have you here Morfic! Your kernels are the best! Still have my G2X because of you man.

Wow, thanks! Your work spreads everywhere!
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Let me tell you, this is where it's at right here!
For those of you who don't know Morfic and his work, let me tell you, I completely vouch for it! I swore by it with my Galaxy Nexus and now that it's here, I'll do the same.
Nobody tops his kernels!

wait... is this kernel bull**** free?
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LOL at the installation script ... "System successfully corrupted. Panic now"... Flashed ALPHA23 and running good!
Thanks.

Flashed Alpha 19 and all is well. Did a Quadrant just to play around and got a 5666 on first try @ 1.89.
True awesomeness.

This thing blazes on aokp with transitions on .5 with jelly bean transitions flashed its obscene!!!
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stonew5082 said:
wait... is this kernel bull**** free?
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Just sniff it, roses man, roses.

es7241 said:
LOL at the installation script ... "System successfully corrupted. Panic now"... Flashed ALPHA23 and running good!
Thanks.
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People even tried to copy that silly little line

babymatteo said:
Flashed Alpha 19 and all is well. Did a Quadrant just to play around and got a 5666 on first try @ 1.89.
True awesomeness.
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1836 you mean?

hey awesome guy that everyone praise....how much voltage did you lower man?

Loved your kernels for the Sensation. Awesome.

G1_enthusiast said:
hey awesome guy that everyone praise....how much voltage did you lower man?
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At this point pretty much only the low end, once i have this kernel at a more solid place i will push voltages overall further.

morfic said:
At this point pretty much only the low end, once i have this kernel at a more solid place i will push voltages overall further.
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yeap i think i would speak for most when we say...battery life is more of a priority than speed, since this thing is fast and smooth out of the box.

Best kernel out I gave them all a good run but this one out shine them all.
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there is one weird gov which i never seen...MSM-DVCS or something like that, can someone chime in.

G1_enthusiast said:
yeap i think i would speak for most when we say...battery life is more of a priority than speed, since this thing is fast and smooth out of the box.
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My kernels are more about removing waste than adding stuff (Although i do grab features that are worth while, i am more referring to patches fixing issues noone knew they had, just to inflate git logs)
Things i do add is tweaks to cool overly Yellow panels.
And it's usually possible to benefit both ways, keep Max Freq low and grab all voltage drops and other savings, or raise it up and enjoy the extra power.

Morfic, would much rather see you over on the Sprint version, but glad to see you on the SGS III. Used to use your kernels on the Nexus S and they were the best around. Hopefully once you get everything settled in, we might see you branching to other carriers.

G1_enthusiast said:
there is one weird gov which i never seen...MSM-DVCS or something like that, can someone chime in.
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This might a little..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758945
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How are ROMs different?

So I'm just wondering what makes all the ROMs different? Specifically all the TW ROMs. I understand that each dev uses different tweaks and stuff but what are they exactly..? What are the different things tweaked that make a ROM different and maybe even better than other ROMs? And if a certain tweak makes the ROM better then why don't all ROMs have the same tweaks and edits?
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There are barely any major differences in TW ROMs besides preference of kernel
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
There are barely any major differences in TW ROMs besides preference of kernel
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See, that's what I was thinking because I've tried like every TW ROM at least once and to me battery life is almost always the same and so is performance. The only differences I ever feel is depending on the kernel. And I also feel like some ROMs go better with a certain kernel then others do.
But other than the choice of kernel I don't see any difference. So not to discourage anyone or diss anyone or anything like that but why do people even make TW ROMs and claim that their ROM is better if all are actually the same kinda?
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To add mods, hacks, themes, features, kernels, etc for people who may not know how to do it all themselves.
"Hey I want all these things packaged together, but every time I try to put them all together I run into all these issues because I don't know anything about any of this other than just using the phone. Oh hey, someone packaged together everything I was looking for in one nice little package."
Most of us here are above average Android users. We know some ****, but we take for granted how many others don't. We've come very far as a community and have forgotten where it all started at.
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Zeinzu said:
To add mods, hacks, themes, features, kernels, etc for people who may not know how to do it all themselves.
"Hey I want all these things packaged together, but every time I try to put them all together I run into all these issues because I don't know anything about any of this other than just using the phone. Oh hey, someone packaged together everything I was looking for in one nice little package."
Most of us here are above average Android users. We know some ****, but we take for granted how many others don't. We've come very far as a community and have forgotten where it all started at.
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Yeah, you're right. I just remembered myself 1 year ago flashing viperROM lol.
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lilajrestnom said:
Yeah, you're right. I just remembered myself 1 year ago flashing viperROM lol.
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Aww, I miss the viperRoms

There's a lot of times themed APKs, which sometimes requires modified XMLs and modified PNG files.
There are some extra scripts in system/etc/init.d and lines in build.prop that optimize speed by making things mount faster or making it possible for more applications to be open.
Also, there can be modified framework to add features or change look and feel or speed. Ex: on HTC devices, the framework can be modified to get rid of the paginated app drawer on Sense. Can't think of any specific Samsung examples because I've never made tweaked stock ROMs but mostly do ports.

Pimp My Rom and Task650's AOKP

I know that Pimp My Rom is a Universal tweaking app for most phones, but does it really help considering that Task's ROM is so polished? Are the tweaks really helping out the performance of the phone or the speed of the connections. Anyway to compare before and after ?

I wouldn't touch pimp my rom unless I was running stock tw most certainly not with tasks aokp. Just saying.
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Yeah I guess your correct, I always see people commenting about PMR , V6 or lightning tweaks for devices . I guess many of these tweaks would be considered for older devices and less developed ROMs. Just wondering if anyone has anyone done comparisons?
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Id add a diff kernel though, the LeanKernel gives me better battery on tasks aokp

If you were to do anything i would suggest a nandroid first, just in case something goes wrong.

Corvetrims77 said:
Yeah I guess your correct, I always see people commenting about PMR , V6 or lightning tweaks for devices . I guess many of these tweaks would be considered for older devices and less developed ROMs. Just wondering if anyone has anyone done comparisons?
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I have watched most of the apps you mentioned from beta or before. They are pointless to roms like tasks. The tweaks are alot of different settings that do little to nothing unless your stock or on a less developed rom. If you look deep down in those apps they are just settings to different things that already have a custom setting from task and aokp that any developer can change.
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