So I'm just wondering what makes all the ROMs different? Specifically all the TW ROMs. I understand that each dev uses different tweaks and stuff but what are they exactly..? What are the different things tweaked that make a ROM different and maybe even better than other ROMs? And if a certain tweak makes the ROM better then why don't all ROMs have the same tweaks and edits?
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There are barely any major differences in TW ROMs besides preference of kernel
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
There are barely any major differences in TW ROMs besides preference of kernel
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See, that's what I was thinking because I've tried like every TW ROM at least once and to me battery life is almost always the same and so is performance. The only differences I ever feel is depending on the kernel. And I also feel like some ROMs go better with a certain kernel then others do.
But other than the choice of kernel I don't see any difference. So not to discourage anyone or diss anyone or anything like that but why do people even make TW ROMs and claim that their ROM is better if all are actually the same kinda?
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To add mods, hacks, themes, features, kernels, etc for people who may not know how to do it all themselves.
"Hey I want all these things packaged together, but every time I try to put them all together I run into all these issues because I don't know anything about any of this other than just using the phone. Oh hey, someone packaged together everything I was looking for in one nice little package."
Most of us here are above average Android users. We know some ****, but we take for granted how many others don't. We've come very far as a community and have forgotten where it all started at.
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To add mods, hacks, themes, features, kernels, etc for people who may not know how to do it all themselves.
"Hey I want all these things packaged together, but every time I try to put them all together I run into all these issues because I don't know anything about any of this other than just using the phone. Oh hey, someone packaged together everything I was looking for in one nice little package."
Most of us here are above average Android users. We know some ****, but we take for granted how many others don't. We've come very far as a community and have forgotten where it all started at.
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Yeah, you're right. I just remembered myself 1 year ago flashing viperROM lol.
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lilajrestnom said:
Yeah, you're right. I just remembered myself 1 year ago flashing viperROM lol.
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Aww, I miss the viperRoms
There's a lot of times themed APKs, which sometimes requires modified XMLs and modified PNG files.
There are some extra scripts in system/etc/init.d and lines in build.prop that optimize speed by making things mount faster or making it possible for more applications to be open.
Also, there can be modified framework to add features or change look and feel or speed. Ex: on HTC devices, the framework can be modified to get rid of the paginated app drawer on Sense. Can't think of any specific Samsung examples because I've never made tweaked stock ROMs but mostly do ports.
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Just wondering what everyone else likes for a rom. Feel free to tell us your likes or dislikes with your current rom. With the choices we have available to us on this device, I'm sure some are wondering which rom is right for them.... this poll should give people some kind of direction.
EDIT: I must apologize. I must of been tired to miss putting viperROM on the poll list. Don't suppose there is a way to edit that poll is there?
I'm loving Starburst and glad I finally budged out of my curmudgeonly ways off of stock as I wait for CM. It's very full featured and allows tweaking without turning into a theme-fest. I was very surprised with it.
Though I am also preparing my phone to try out some other ROMs today....I'm a big fan of Calkulins work so I'm pretty eager to try that out.
Calkulin FTW
Although to be fair I haven't tried starburst yet. Didnt boot when I tried it but it was my first attempt at a custom ROM on this phone so I am sure I did something wrong
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Calkulin +1
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Viper rom FTW!
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ViperRom
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Stock
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Calkulin atm. Viper closely behind
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Liking Starburst quite a bit. My phone is fast and reliable, waiting for further advancements before trying something else.
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I haven't tried anything besides stock and star burst.I was seriously going to open a thread like this because I'm convinced that caulkin's is probably better. But my phones set up o-soo perfect right now idk what to do. After j see screenies and some themes for caulkin anhd hear good things about battery and smoothness I'm going to hold tight
If you want stable I'd go for this AOSP mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18444793
I cringe when I see other people having problems on other roms, ranging from battery life to stability issues. I'll only leave this for ICS.
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No doubt caulkulins roms is the best
Much smoother and faster than starburst or viper
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If you want stable I'd go for this AOSP mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18444793
I cringe when I see other people having problems on other roms, ranging from battery life to stability issues. I'll only leave this for ICS.
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To be honest, and maybe this means I'm a ****, but when I read about people having all kinds of problems with a rom or a kernel or a mod or anything my first thought is automatically "they probably fncked something up."
A vast majority of the times this is, in fact, the problem. I'm on my 8th? 9th? Android device. I hack 'em up to pieces. I try to be a good boy and read everything thoroughly...but I don't. I skim for the important bits. If I screw something up it's usually pretty obvious, then I fix it, then it works. I have never actually had a ROM that has destroyed my battery life (I have with experimental kernels, but, to be expected), I have never lost 3G function, I have never gotten unfixable bootloops, I have never killed my wifi or 4G to where a full wipe and reflash didn't bring it back...never. For years now I have been hearing some wild problems from people and never actually experienced any of them for myself in a way that wasn't fixable, by myself.
I have gotten better battery life, faster internet, working youtube, faster wifi (the 'wifi n' mod on Evo4G), etc etc etc.
I don't know, I'm always skeptical of people claiming a rom or kernel are screwing things up when there are other people with no problems at all.
Alpha and Beta roms notwithstanding, lol
viper for some reason not on here..
but anyway, my vote is for viper. Need to try Calkulin more though
yeah.. where's viper? I think the rom is quiet good.. and nobody 's seems to complain much on his thread..
Why the f*ck isnt viperROM included in this poll?
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Why the f*ck isnt viperROM included in this poll?
*facepalm*
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agreed. great dev that should be acknowledged on this poll
let's show some love for Strong steve's odexed versions of themes. That requires some work to get all the stuff working and having it all odex, i vote to add them to the poll
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Just wondering what everyone else likes for a rom. Feel free to tell us your likes or dislikes with your current rom. With the choices we have available to us on this device, I'm sure some are wondering which rom is right for them.... this poll should give people some kind of direction.
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ViperROM for me
Call... hands down the best Rom I've used if cm never came I could be content using this...
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Sooo its been a while since i have seen any new MTD kernels besides one for CM9...anyone working on anything??
Because CM9 is where it is at.
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And they probably feel they have taken the kernels on TW EL30 MTD as far as they can go. Earthbound may have a newer MTD kernel on his IAP sight.
I don't get this. If custom kernelss have integrated many performance enhancing features then why do we keep needing new ones? Isn't it a good thing if we've gotten everything we need out of them and can just use the phones? I mean if someone finds something else that can be done I'm all for it, but this sounds more like a flasher addict's cry for a fix than anything else.
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I don't get this. If custom kernelss have integrated many performance enhancing features then why do we keep needing new ones? Isn't it a good thing if we've gotten everything we need out of them and can just use the phones? I mean if someone finds something else that can be done I'm all for it, but this sounds more like a flasher addict's cry for a fix than anything else.
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If you think about the stock kernel is a custom one too just someones kernel pre packaged is all and to think of it when something doesn't work out and needs tweaking what happens the dev's of the rom tweak the pre packaged kernel.
Seems like just because someone else's kernel doesn't mean they aren't going to do the same thing. Adding stuff to a kernel more features, makes it more friendly and helps in the long end dont you think?
Ok I have been a major lurker on xda for a while. I just created an xda profile a few days ago and made my first contribution with a hacked hulu plus app. Now I want to make a bigger contribution. In the form of a ROM. Ive got my build environment up and running smooth.
Now I dont want any donations. You wont find any donations links any where. I hack and build for fun. This community has many taliented developers. I just hope to merge what I know into real world stuff.
Now my question to the community is what do you want to see in a Rom? Features? Tweaks?
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Ok I have been a major lurker on xda for a while. I just created an xda profile a few days ago and made my first contribution with a hacked hulu plus app. Now I want to make a bigger contribution. In the form of a ROM. Ive got my build environment up and running smooth.
Now I dont want any donations. You wont find any donations links any where. I hack and build for fun. This community has many taliented developers. I just hope to merge what I know into real world stuff.
Now my question to the community is what do you want to see in a Rom? Features? Tweaks?
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Just my opinion, but stock TouchWiz ICS with good battery life.
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Just my opinion, but stock TouchWiz ICS with good battery life.
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Opinions is what im looking for good sir. I actually like TW alot.
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I was going to help you out with info till I seen that you like TW...
The reason is because I know of only none TW roms since TW is the crappiest thing since sliced bread.
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Opinions is what im looking for good sir. I actually like TW alot.
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Same. It's very smooth and I like it a lot. Lmk when you get an ICS TW ROM with good battery life like EL29.
Just a fully functional ICS Stock rom that plays nice with the battery is all I can really ask for
You developers spend enormous amount of time and effort to provide to this community and it'll be absurd for people to "expect" ANYTHING. Thank you in advance for any future work you provide for the community.
Settings like AOKP with status bar changes and lockscreen changes and a theme engine would be sweet also.
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Same. It's very smooth and I like it a lot. Lmk when you get an ICS TW ROM with good battery life like EL29.
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Im on EL29 and battery is outstanding. I must admit.
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A tweak that allows force roaming like on some evo 3d roms. I need something like that.
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Alex1123 said:
A tweak that allows force roaming like on some evo 3d roms. I need something like that.
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Im going to have to contact romanbb. that guy is a master of tweaks apps and framework edits. It sholdnt be to hard.
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As long as it's a TW Rom that would be awesome. I like TW and there's a **** ton of people that add launchers to their roms, might as well get CM or AOKP.
Again TW and fast would be nice to see. I have had bad luck with ICS, my phone always hangs for some reason on all leaks.
Thanks in advance.
an aosp ics rom with every single customization option imported from aokp, codename, gummy, slim, and cm9. if you can get that with flawless mms, camera/camcorder, great battery life, with no service or data loss, and properly working sdcard, then you'll have yourself the best aosp rom available hands down.
This may be asking a lot, but i would love to see some of the tweaks for this ROM added. It may be kernel tweaks so i dont know if it is possible. My Mother's phone is running it and after 2 days she still has 50% battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466362
Edit: It seems kernel development has slowed down a lot here for our ET4G. I see this topic is for an ICS ROM so oops.
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It would be nice to see some of the UI from the Note.
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Honestly, would just like to see what you come up with. It can be TW based, aokp, cm9.... either way, there is going to be someone not pleased with your work. I think you should just pick and choose what you like, put it together, and the community will love you for it. I myself do prefer a nice lock screen mod (like maddoggin and the new aosp mod). The launcher I could give two s#*T's about, as long as it runs smooth. The best of luck to you. Hope to see some good things in the future.
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Im a huge fan of the cm9 launcher but i like the TW UI and Camera. Im thinking of a Touchwizless rom. it has the look and feel of aosp but with the great aspects of TW.
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Wow.. i see people askin for tuings that have already been done.. all i ask for is somthing unique! Not a stock ice or stock tw ics, i mean incorporate all you can but don just add all features that we have already.. come on guys think of somethin crazy awesome that is doable
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A touch wiz ROM with mods like AOKP (status bar notification and lockscreen mods ) and behaves like AOKP, the reason behind it being a touchwiz ROM is because the little touchwiz touches are nice( video player, working led, HW accelerated UI and browser and etc) ,putting other UI's might just cause problems (battery and lag). Yet I can only dream!! Just an idea. If this is even possible.
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Stock touch wiz ICS ROM themed the look like ICS and fix that darn notification bug.
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My opinion is to offer options.
Help swamp goblin port sense 4.0.
Help maintain and update MIUI if needed.
Port over motoblur (just so peeps can try it)
Help tcp if needed with aokp or cma or gummy.
Etc. Etc. The more options we have, the happier everyone will be.
While not a rom, how about porting the cm9 reloaded mod to our phone. The systemUI of the mod needs to be merged with ours to get the 4g toggle and other stuff working. I would do it, but time isn't something I have at the moment.
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I've tried all the other ones and for some reason they're either too modded or have 1 or 2 bugs that bother me. I made one based off the stock LI2 rom, gutted everything out of it (except flipboard, dropbox, kies, and smemo), and added different mods from scratch.
If others want me to post it I will, just unsure if I'm ready to put it in the Dev section since I probably won't be updating it too frequently & I didn't want to clutter the forum with the same variation of the same base.
It has:
Google Now, different brightness settings, some build prop tweaks, all samsung & t-mobile crap removed, no extra added apps, stock theme, bravia mod, alt 5x5/5x6 launcher, only uses 360mb ram on first boot, + more.
might add 4 way reboot, beats audio, all other good stuff
+ I plan on applying these same mods when a stable ics rom drops.
New ROMs are always welcomed
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New ROMs are always welcomed
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haha alright sounds good, should be up sometime tomorrow
gotta find a stable place to upload these things (600mb is a little large lol)
Bring it on man, bring it on lol
Sounds like just what I'm looking for.
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Hey I would love a simple debloated rom that has good speed and battery life. I do find that a few roms are too heavily modded.
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Hey I would love a simple debloated rom that has good speed and battery life. I do find that a few roms are too heavily modded.
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uploading now guys, testing a build might update a few things before i release it's in the other forum!
I know that Pimp My Rom is a Universal tweaking app for most phones, but does it really help considering that Task's ROM is so polished? Are the tweaks really helping out the performance of the phone or the speed of the connections. Anyway to compare before and after ?
I wouldn't touch pimp my rom unless I was running stock tw most certainly not with tasks aokp. Just saying.
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Yeah I guess your correct, I always see people commenting about PMR , V6 or lightning tweaks for devices . I guess many of these tweaks would be considered for older devices and less developed ROMs. Just wondering if anyone has anyone done comparisons?
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Id add a diff kernel though, the LeanKernel gives me better battery on tasks aokp
If you were to do anything i would suggest a nandroid first, just in case something goes wrong.
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Yeah I guess your correct, I always see people commenting about PMR , V6 or lightning tweaks for devices . I guess many of these tweaks would be considered for older devices and less developed ROMs. Just wondering if anyone has anyone done comparisons?
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I have watched most of the apps you mentioned from beta or before. They are pointless to roms like tasks. The tweaks are alot of different settings that do little to nothing unless your stock or on a less developed rom. If you look deep down in those apps they are just settings to different things that already have a custom setting from task and aokp that any developer can change.
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