I made the ultimate mistake the other day. I flashed a kernel for another device onto my S3 and of course paid the price of bricking my phone.
To set the scenario, I had back surgery last Thursday and was released from the hospital on Friday with a supply of pain killers and orders to not do anything. Well, while sitting around doing nothing I got bored and decided to work on a couple of my friends tablets that needed rooting and roms installed. I got them done without any issue and then decided to mess with my phone. There were a couple of new kernels I wanted to test and so I decided to do this. I booted into recovery and selected the kernel and flashed. At that moment I realized that the kernel I just flashed was not for my phone and when I tried to turn on the phone and nothing happened, I knew immediately what I had done and after saying a few nasty words to myself I started searching for a way to fix it. While searching through the forums I kept reading about MobileTechVideos.com and their ability to jtag repair phones. Since I have never had to do this and my phone was not going to work anyway I decided to give them a call and see what they had to offer. I called them and asked about their services and they said that it should be no problem fixing my phone. I live in Dallas and the company is in Bryan, about 3 1/2 hr drive, I decided the easiest and fastest way to get my phone repaired was to take it to them and wait. On Tuesday morning I drove to Bryan and dropped off my phone. When I had called them they told me it might be a couple of hours to fix it, but once I told them it was a tmobile device they told me to wait because it might only take a few minutes. During this time they showed me around the office and I was really impressed. What impressed me the most is that no one working for this comany could have been over 25, even the owner. So after a brief tour of the office, about 10 minutes, my phone was fixed and was ready to go. I paid my $60, which I believe was well worth it, said thank you and was on my way with my fully functional phone.
They never asked me to post anything and I don't have any affiliation with this company. I just want to post about a company that provided the service they said they would at a price that is reasonable since without it I would have a $600 paperweight. So if anyone ever happens to make the foolish mistake that I made and you need your S3 repaired, I would 100% recommend this company. Here is the link to their website, http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com, mods let me know if this is not allowed and I will remove it.
I know I am always questioning online companies likes these, but this particular company has earned a customer for as long as they are open and support whatever device I happen to be using. I just hope that since I made this mistake I will hopefully never make it again.
Moral of story: If on heavy doses of pain killers don't crack flash kernels. If might cost you in the end. :}
Never bricked a phone before but I've heard great things about that company. If I ever run to trouble I'll surely go to them immediately.
Thanks for the review.
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Thanks for the review - it's good to hear good comments about the company "just in case".
Hope you're feeling better.
Cool.... Drugs say No to them... Get well
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Cool.... Drugs say No to them... Get well
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Pain meds after back surgery are a definite yesssssss, just don't brick your phone. lol
Happy to read a ringing endorsement, though - also "just in case".
Hey dude. Im in Dallas too. Good to know. I read all about them. They are really good in jtag fix devices. They were the first ti have s-off on the htc one. They did it after an hour of getting the phone. I havent brick any phones yet but I have their number save just in case. I have seen where they sale the jtag device to do it yourself. It cost about $100 it is well worth it
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Good service but more expensive than some.. but local is good.
Sent while sleeping in chair.
I'm glad your device is back and operational. Thanks for letting us know about a trusted reputable service.
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Thanks. I am not one who likes reviewing companies, but this one time I felt it was justly deserved. I read to many threads about shipping your device to someone and for a cheaper cost they will fix it. That makes me uncomfortable. I would rather pay a little more for the peace of mind. Even then I was more comfortable driving as far as I did, after just having surgery, because of my skeptism. That is why I felt the review was warranted to help someone when they are not local.
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Josh @mobiletechvideos is certainly a trusted guy. He's been here since vibrant days.
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I didn't realize your phone would get bricked with a bad kernel. You can't just go into odin and restore the original system image?
Not criticizing here, I'm just trying to learn something. Glad you had a good experience, as I'm sure at some point in my life I'm going to brick a phone.
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I can confirm that flashing a wrong kernel will brick your phone. I did that and still not sure if it was wrong one but in did screwed my phone, luckily I exchanged it for another device since I had it for a week.
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I have done the same thing. I flashed an international ROM on my T-999. I had also read great reviews people had using Mobiletechvideos. He had mine back to me in less than 1 week. Awesome work. If someone from MTV is on here, thank you!!
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I didn't realize your phone would get bricked with a bad kernel. You can't just go into odin and restore the original system image?
Not criticizing here, I'm just trying to learn something. Glad you had a good experience, as I'm sure at some point in my life I'm going to brick a phone.
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It wasn't a bad kernel, it was a kernel for a different device. I was working on several devices that day and put a kernel for a nook tablet into my S3 folder by mistake. Teaches me to only work on one device at a time.
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Yes don't take painkillers give em to me lol
thanks for the write up good to know
Can't you just re flash the entire rom stock or not with Odin or cwm?
I dunno, first time I "bricked" my phone was from an incorrect kernel also. Just downloaded stock touch wiz rom go to download mode and flash with Odin.
I'm not aware that you can brick your phone unless you mess with the bootloader itself.
Bricking means exactly what it sounds like. It's just a piece of useless hardware that you can't recover, in this case, with an incorrect kernel flash, you can, either through another kernel that is compatible with your device or re flash the entire rom; with either Odin or cwm.
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Can't you just re flash the entire rom stock or not with Odin or cwm?
I dunno, first time I "bricked" my phone was from an incorrect kernel also. Just downloaded stock touch wiz rom go to download mode and flash with Odin.
I'm not aware that you can brick your phone unless you mess with the bootloader itself.
Bricking means exactly what it sounds like. It's just a piece of useless hardware that you can't recover, in this case, with an incorrect kernel flash, you can, either through another kernel that is compatible with your device or re flash the entire rom; with either Odin or cwm.
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When trying to connect to computer it would not recognize the device correctly. So no odin if you can't connect to computer. No flashing anything else if the phone doesn't turn on. That would be as hard bricked as you can get.
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When trying to connect to computer it would not recognize the device correctly. So no odin if you can't connect to computer. No flashing anything else if the phone doesn't turn on. That would be as hard bricked as you can get.
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Yeah but you can't hard brick it if you flash a wrong kernel unless the kernel replaces your bootloader.
Oh wait, ok I get it. You flashed a kernel that replaces the bootloader also, like with the international dual boot kernel
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Yeah but you can't hard brick it if you flash a wrong kernel unless the kernel replaces your bootloader.
Oh wait, ok I get it. You flashed a kernel that replaces the bootloader also, like with the international dual boot kernel
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Correct!
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A really nice woman came into my store yesterday, 1 day outside of her 14 day return policy. Her epic would not get a GPS lock and only ever has 1-2 bars. I didntt know what to do, as idd done all the basics...prl/profile, 72786, manually programmed...nothing worked. So I said **** it and flashed the fc18 modem to her phone. Suddenly, she had all bars and an immediate GPS lock. I know I shouldntt feel bad as thatss a good survey for me and a happy customer for sprint but I cantt help but feel like I broke some sacred rules and should be fired or stoned to death.
yes....yes you are a terrible person....
j/k idk bro it seems like you helped out a person that needed it. Are there any ramifications for do that down the road? Say she has another issue and comes back when you're not there?
man I think you are good, I would have done the same!!
If you have one more chance, try to flash the stock modem again once the GPS starts to work. I think it will work even you put the original stock modem back once it's started working. That will save your axx.
My gf works for sprint, she had to root and flash a custom rom to a customer's phone once(don't remember which) to get it to work correctly.
14 day return policy is @!#$()#$%@# bull****, if it wasn't for that crap I would have returned this because of the LOS issue.
I thank you for going above and beyond and actually HELPING a customer.
BUT, that doesn't make you a good person, you are most likely a scum bag like all of us.
Technically they cannot refuse service to someone who has rooted their phone. The MFG may not cover it but if you have TEP then they will work on it. We HAVE to, its policy. Anyone telling you they cant is wrong. So dont sweat it, if the customer is happy your gold!
She asked you to fix her phone and you did, what a jerk.
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She asked you to fix her phone and you did, what a jerk.
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Yeah.....how dare he help a customer!
*hurls stone at OP*
You prevented her from getting any future ota updates
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You prevented her from getting any future ota updates
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I didn't think the modem mattered in OTA
Wizard Knight said:
I didn't think the modem mattered in OTA
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It doesn't if you ODIN'ed the modem. But it'll be an issue if you installed a custom recovery and flashed the modem from CWM. CWM would block the update.
I did the exact same thing yesterday
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Potential blowback...
First off - no, you're not a bad person. In fact I'm pretty sure some companies give awards for service like that.
That said, if yours isn't one of those companies(...) you may catch some **** with the boss when she shows her phone to her friends and they come back asking for the "latest" software on their phones.
Just something to be prepared for....you totally did the right thing for the customer.
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First off - no, you're not a bad person. In fact I'm pretty sure some companies give awards for service like that.
That said, if yours isn't one of those companies(...) you may catch some **** with the boss when she shows her phone to her friends and they come back asking for the "latest" software on their phones.
Just something to be prepared for....you totally did the right thing for the customer.
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I agree. But, he should be safe either way because the average person don't even know what a "modem.bin" is, let alone know how to check which version they are on. She most likely thinks he did some magical thing that only Sprint employee's has the power to do. Assuming he's a Sprint employee.
EK02 update failed to install cuz many of us were stuck on the EG31 modem back then and only way to update was cwm.
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Dude I was a supervisor in the sprint call center and I walked a customer how to root there phone. From htcevohacks.com
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EK02 update failed to install cuz many of us were stuck on the EG31 modem back then and only way to update was cwm.
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Well, I stand corrected. Thanks for refreshing my memories.
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EK02 update failed to install cuz many of us were stuck on the EG31 modem back then and only way to update was cwm.
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Shell come back and he can run the latest .tar on her phone. Full stock, no triangle, no problem. I assume that's what anyone would do at the Sprint store, although I don't know how they do things there.
Yea she will be back when her phone wont accept the update and it starts to get annoying always asking to install lol.
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Hey guys..
Straight forward question..
Is it possible to password protect our Download and Recovery modes?
And i mean when you press and hold vol dwn+home+power method. Not through the android software reboot menu.
I want/like this idea because if someone were to steal my phone. They would NEVER be able to flash a custom ROM or even flash a stock ROM img. They would be completely locked out making the device useless to them.
The only way i think they could get past it is by using JTAG to overwrite the download partition with a stock one. But hardly anyone has a JTAG device.
Well this would be awesome. lol
Have at it
Im guessing it would require a modified bootloader. Not really sure though. Ive wondered about this myself. Never seen it done though.
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Im guessing it would require a modified bootloader. Not really sure though. Ive wondered about this myself. Never seen it done though.
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I think it would be the ultimate level of security. And i agree a modified bootloader would be necessary. How one would go abouts creating one i am clueless.
elesbb said:
I think it would be the ultimate level of security. And i agree a modified bootloader would be necessary. How one would go abouts creating one i am clueless.
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As am I lol! This ones a bit above my skill level!
Problem is, itd have to be redone for each model. Unless there was a way to have sonething that could sit on top of or intercept power on and run before the bootloader....I really have no idea though, just tossing ideas!
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As am I lol! This ones a bit above my skill level!
Problem is, itd have to be redone for each model. Unless there was a way to have sonething that could sit on top of or intercept power on and run before the bootloader....I really have no idea though, just tossing ideas!
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Too bad it's not the HD2
But yes I think one would need to be made for each device... and if I or anyone can create the bootloader, how would you flash the bootloader? JTAG device?
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Believe it or not, Im pretty sure you can flash any partition through Odin, so there you go! I could be wrong of course....
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Believe it or not, Im pretty sure you can flash any partition through Odin, so there you go! I could be wrong of course....
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Hey you could be right too! I never knew that! Hmmm I think in my spare time I shall delve into this!
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Best of luck on it man! If I can be of help let me know, though on this dont expect a lot from me!!
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that is a great idea indeed.:good:
Very interesting topic, but I think it is impossible to do (Recovery & download) are design to prevent forgotten password issues.
What a pity
Guys i thnk if it can be done
It will be easy to install it on our devices if rooted (stock android)
As companies like sammy ,htc have diff kernals
I thnk we can successfully do this fr nexus ,micromax ,karbonn etc.....
Lets have a try
Ny one tried this before
If so plz gimme a guide of it so that it will b easy fr me
Lemmi try my best fr us to have ultimate theft protection on our android devices
I hope if it wrks google may add it on its future devices
The "ultimative" protection would be:
When a phone is stolen, you can remotely trigger "the suicide button" xD
When it is triggered and the phone receives the command (Even if the phone is running other ROM) it reboots the phone and erases the Bootloader and some other things that are important for the phone to work.
Best. Protection. Ever.
Second thing I could imagine is that phone companies could protect the download mode with a password (12 digits or so).
That password will come printed on one of the manuals when you buy the phone.
If you attempt to flash an image in download mode, you will be prompted for the password.
And, optionally, if you put the password 10 times wrong, it will erase bootloader and etc.
Third idea: The download mode only will prompt for a password (printed on the manual), if you atempt to flash another ROM on it... Because this will change the confidential signature that the old ROM has passed to the download mode.
(I am not sure if this could be done. I'm just saying ideas...)
Well my fellow flashers, it's been 2 weeks since I picked up this bad boy from Best Buy in Black Friday. I've been holding off rooting and flashing a ROM. Abstinence is not for everyone and it's definitely not for me in this situation. Once you've been to the Dark Side, there's no going back.
Now to starting testing the new flavors of Android. Thanks to all of the device of Android. My Captivate has served me well because of you all. My daughter sincerely appreciates it.
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now be careful and don't lose your IMEI by flashing roms - make a backup of your NV items
meanhacker said:
now be careful and don't lose your IMEI by flashing roms - make a backup of your NV items
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Yeah he's right. Don't flash ANYTHING until you backup your IMEI. You never know when you're going to lose it, or if you will lose it.
Quick access link to the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801997
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Well my fellow flashers, it's been 2 weeks since I picked up this bad boy from Best Buy in Black Friday. I've been holding off rooting and flashing a ROM. Abstinence is not for everyone and it's definitely not for me in this situation. Once you've been to the Dark Side, there's no going back.
Now to starting testing the new flavors of Android. Thanks to all of the device of Android. My Captivate has served me well because of you all. My daughter sincerely appreciates it.
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Wow and you call your self a flashaholic we have to pull your flashaholic card I also came from a captivate and I had my sgs3 without flashing for maybe ten minutes (the time it took to download stuff included time to find right kernel,etc.)
I didn't even know what the stock Rom looked like I turned in my phone had some juice on the battery and I flashed away
Had to try the new update just to see what it looks like, although I ran frosty for a while but was flashing something everyday even with official I have been flashing stuff just to get my flash on(mostly apps and addons) to get my fix until 4.2 roms start coming out, for now I have also flashed the 4.2 camera back on and little mods here and there mostly cosmetic and audio upgrades but at first sign of 4.2 or some rom that gives me new stuff to pay with I'm flashing official rom away
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Yeah he's right. Don't flash ANYTHING until you backup your IMEI. You never know when you're going to lose it, or if you will lose it.
Quick access link to the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801997
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Or you can just get andromizer. Free app on the foruns. Paid app in store.
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Android has gotten so good that stock rooted is all I need lately.
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Yeah he's right. Don't flash ANYTHING until you backup your IMEI. You never know when you're going to lose it, or if you will lose it.
Quick access link to the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801997
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I was a noob and this very thing happened to me. It scared the hell out of me but thanks to the guides and tools and people here at least have peace of mind that this was the first android phone I flashed roms with, IMEI got wiped after a random reboot playing around with LED settings then.. I was able to restore it myself without having a backup!
!! Its never over flash away but make the backup first it will save a lot of sweat!
I have been on Sony phones until last week so I am trying a rooted stock for a while before I start flashing other roms.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy SIII from AT&T (d2att ), and I have it rooted, running task650's AOKP, and TWRP 2.4.1.0 for recovery. It works fantastic, and I love it I have, however, been trying everything I can think of to try and get ktoonsez's kernel to work on it, for the features that his kernel offers. I am having a funky issue, which according to task, kt, and a few others on the boards, is device-related. It seems that my phone, individually, is the problem. This leads me to my question.
How feasible is it to get AT&T (or Samsung?) to replace my phone, based on the fact that there is something different hardware-wise between mine and the vast majority of other peoples?
It seems that nearly everyone who runs this combination of task and ktoonsez has nothing but good things to say, and I have yet to see anyone gripe about the same issues that I have had, and not be able to fix them, usually by a simple full wipe. I have tried to do full wipes with and without letting Google initialize/restore my account. I have tried going back to stock everything, and trying again. I have made sure to turn off Performance Control, so there should be no conflict there. I have tried setting up my phone in its entirety, restoring information, restoring apps with TiBu, and then installing the kernel. I have tried with and without deleting mpdecision. I am following all of the directions posted per OP for both threads, and with the gapps posted by task himself. Nothing works, and I end up in a glitchy boot loop almost immediately after flashing the kernel, even if my phone was running buttery stable before the flash.
I have come up with a couple things to try tonight, but if they don't work, I would like to pursue getting a new phone to replace this one. Is that an option?
You will need to do a warranty replacement through Samsung unless you have device insurance through att. But then you will be paying the deductable on it.
There are quite a few reports of people in ktoonsez's thread that stated they had to return their device and get a new one for his kernel to work. Not sure you searched good enough. But either way, you are not the first to have a device that cant run his kernel. I can assure you of that.
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You will need to do a warranty replacement through Samsung unless you have device insurance through att. But then you will be paying the deductable on it.
There are quite a few reports of people in ktoonsez's thread that stated they had to return their device and get a new one for his kernel to work. Not sure you searched good enough. But either way, you are not the first to have a device that cant run his kernel. I can assure you of that.
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Thank you. I may not have read it well enough Do you mean the deductible through Samsung or AT&T? And ho do I approach the warranty? I know, at least where I work, we wouldn't honor a warranty on something that was used for purposes outside of it's intended use (i.e. rooting). Granted, I don't work for a phone company
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Thank you. I may not have read it well enough Do you mean the deductible through Samsung or AT&T? And ho do I approach the warranty? I know, at least where I work, we wouldn't honor a warranty on something that was used for purposes outside of it's intended use (i.e. rooting). Granted, I don't work for a phone company
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It would be the deductible through AT&T if you have device insurance. If going through Samsung, something would have to be a manufacturers defect in order for them to warrant a replacement device. I don't think either company will replace the device because you can't use a custom kernel. So you would need to get creative on your story before you go either route.
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It would be the deductible through AT&T if you have device insurance. If going through Samsung, something would have to be a manufacturers defect in order for them to warrant a replacement device. I don't think either company will replace the device because you can't use a custom kernel. So you would need to get creative on your story before you go either route.
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Time to get creative lol
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Settling In
I don't know if this could be a factor but, you will experience something commonly called a settling in period after installing a new kernel.
I have been through trying a couple other custom kernels for I747 plus all the progression of KT747 releases for TW ICS and TW JB since 9-23 release and have been through two phones due to warranty replacement. On both phones I have experienced significant settling in glitches for a while after flashing KT's or other kernels. These include crashing on boot, frequent screen freezes after boot, KTweaker settings not sticking, etc. These issues are far more extreme on first install of kernel than when flashing a new release to phone that already has kernel installed. First boot after first install can take about twenty problematic boot attempts to start behaving and it can take two or three days before kernel "settles in" and problems pretty much disappear.
In my feeble little mind, I envision the new kernel having to grow neurons into the guts of the phone hardware.
If you want to run this kernel and your phone will basically boot but, is all glitchy, I would say don't freak out. Have some patience, just keep rebooting, and give it time to settle in. For most the phone will straighten out in a few days.
Hope this helps.
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I don't know if this could be a factor but, you will experience something commonly called a settling in period after installing a new kernel.
I have been through trying a couple other custom kernels for I747 plus all the progression of KT747 releases for TW ICS and TW JB since 9-23 release and have been through two phones due to warranty replacement. On both phones I have experienced significant settling in glitches for a while after flashing KT's or other kernels. These include crashing on boot, frequent screen freezes after boot, KTweaker settings not sticking, etc. These issues are far more extreme on first install of kernel than when flashing a new release to phone that already has kernel installed. First boot after first install can take about twenty problematic boot attempts to start behaving and it can take two or three days before kernel "settles in" and problems pretty much disappear.
In my feeble little mind, I envision the new kernel having to grow neurons into the guts of the phone hardware.
If you want to run this kernel and your phone will basically boot but, is all glitchy, I would say don't freak out. Have some patience, just keep rebooting, and give it time to settle in. For most the phone will straighten out in a few days.
Hope this helps.
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I suppose that is possibly what's going on with mine, I'll give it a couple more tries
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Just an advice, make sure you restore everything to stock before you do
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Just an advice, make sure you restore everything to stock before you do
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I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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Just depends on how thorough the at&t rep is. You have to Odin back to stock, triangle away, unroot and factory reset for them not to know at all.
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I will be doing that In the meantime, any suggestions for how to explain my way into a warranty exchange? I thought about wiping everything, so it won't even boot, and saying that lol
Also, even if I flash back to stock, won't they be able to see that it had been flashed different before?
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Do not intentionally brick your device. That could be just as bad as leaving your phone rooted when you take it in (depending if Samsung can see any part of the storage). As far as warranty exchange "excuse" that is on you to decide. Follow the post quoted below to help your chance at warranty exchange. This has been discussed quite a bit all over the place.
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Just depends on how thorough the at&t rep is. You have to Odin back to stock, triangle away, unroot and factory reset for them not to know at all.
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You know, I've run tasks rom since it was still 4.1 and have always used the kernel provided in his rom. It runs great, and I wouldn't change it. My battery life and everything else is great. I can get 17 hrs with 3 hrs 34 mins screen time and have 20% battery left. I think trying to get a replacement device just to run a different kernel is absurd... just my .02 cents worth
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G-Man. said:
You know, I've run tasks rom since it was still 4.1 and have always used the kernel provided in his rom. It runs great, and I wouldn't change it. My battery life and everything else is great. I can get 17 hrs with 3 hrs 34 mins screen time and have 20% battery left. I think trying to get a replacement device just to run a different kernel is absurd... just my .02 cents worth
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I completely agree. I'm on tasks currently using his underwear kernel provided. I've also tried KT's kernel as well. Yes you can get more customization with KT's and his custom governor, but is it worth it to go through all the hassle to get a new device? I would say no. Like I said I've tried both kernels, I'm currently using tasks underwear kernel, I may try KT's again, may not. When I did before, I didn't notice a drastic difference between the two, esp not enough to warrant going through a device replacement.
Consider this. You are running tasks rom with absolutely no issues with the kernel he provides. Is that not good enough? I know it is for me. His rom is absolutely the most stable rom I've ever tried on any device. Remember it's just a phone. Just some food for thought.
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Probably right, but i don't always run task's ROM, either. My favorite ROM so far has actually been ParanoidKANGDroid, but I wanted 4.2.1, so I went to task. I'm actually running PACman right now, and for the time being, even his PC is broken
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No matter which rom you are running, it's crazy to exchange a device (and having to lie to do it) just to run a different kernel... think about it...
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No matter which rom you are running, it's crazy to exchange a device (and having to lie to do it) just to run a different kernel... think about it...
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Of course, but if it allows me more flexibilities and control over my phone and what it does, I'm all over that
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Bricking your phone would be the easiest way to get a new one and I've seen plenty of people accidentally bricking their i747 and getting a new one from Samsung. They won't even check if its rooted or not.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34556189
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Bricking your phone would be the easiest way to get a new one and I've seen plenty of people accidentally bricking their i747 and getting a new one from Samsung. They won't even check if its rooted or not.
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34556189
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That's a douche bag move.... pain and simple.
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That's a douche bag move.... pain and simple.
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When the s3$ first come out, a lot of people were bricking them. Trying to root or installing an international ROM. I'm pretty sure Samsung staff was aware of that but they still gave free replacement. Some people even got a replacement from att or others carriers for free.
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If I do end up getting a replacement, can I take a nandroid, and restore it to the new phone?
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Yesterday I made the mistake of taking the OTA update to 4.3 while in the process of doing a clean install of the new MOAR rom. Unfortunately, I had failed to do the proper homework otherwise I would have known to avoid the update like the plague. Luckily, I didn't manage to brick my phone, by trying to revert back to an earlier bootloader, but I am stuck now with a tripped warranty bit, and a phone that drains battery at almost 1% per 5mins while being almost completely unable to maintain a cell or data signal.
Now, I know it's going to be a little time before devs have a chance to tear apart 4.3 to fix it's issues, but I'm hoping that I can get some guidance on how I might improve my phone's performance, or at least minimize the negative aspects of the new update in the meantime. Right now I am running MOAR 7 and I have already tried resetting and reinstalling the rom fresh.
Thanks for any help.
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Yesterday I made the mistake of taking the OTA update to 4.3 while in the process of doing a clean install of the new MOAR rom. Unfortunately, I had failed to do the proper homework otherwise I would have known to avoid the update like the plague. Luckily, I didn't manage to brick my phone, by trying to revert back to an earlier bootloader, but I am stuck now with a tripped warranty bit, and a phone that drains battery at almost 1% per 5mins while being almost completely unable to maintain a cell or data signal.
Now, I know it's going to be a little time before devs have a chance to tear apart 4.3 to fix it's issues, but I'm hoping that I can get some guidance on how I might improve my phone's performance, or at least minimize the negative aspects of the new update in the meantime. Right now I am running MOAR 7 and I have already tried resetting and reinstalling the rom fresh.
Thanks for any help.
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If you're on MOAR, then your battery issues are not being caused because you tripped the warranty and flashed the OTA. You may flash any rom, mod, kernel, tweak, etc, you want through CWM, just don't try to downgrade to a different bootloader(ie 4.1.2), through Odin, or you'll brick. Try different roms, modems, combinations, just like before, until you get back to what you want. Good luck
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So I can reflash the MD4 modem? I was under the impression that I was stuck with MK3. Can I basically change anything I want as long as I don't try to Odin in an older update?
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So I can reflash the MD4 modem? I was under the impression that I was stuck with MK3. Can I basically change anything I want as long as I don't try to Odin in an older update?
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Yes, you can flash the MD4 modem, but I tried flashing down to a 4.1.2 modem and lost data, so that may happen to you(probably will). And as long as you flash from cwm you are fine. But read any ROM OPs very carefully, because there are a few out there that flash a bootloader if I'm not mistaken. But overall, yes, you are ok flashing as long as you don't use Odin to try to downgrade to a different bootloader.
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Well, I guess its good to know that I have some options, but also disappointing that I can't just Odin in a complete package to start from, since in the past that has always been the best way to ensure stability in the end result. As for the warranty bit, I'm not too worried about it, since it can only really hurt me if I need to take it to sprint for some work. That being said, if there really is no way to reset it, or completely remove Knox for that matter, I probably won't be buying another samsung phone... I really don't like the idea that the manufacturer would booby trap their product like that.
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Well, I guess its good to know that I have some options, but also disappointing that I can't just Odin in a complete package to start from, since in the past that has always been the best way to ensure stability in the end result. As for the warranty bit, I'm not too worried about it, since it can only really hurt me if I need to take it to sprint for some work. That being said, if there really is no way to reset it, or completely remove Knox for that matter, I probably won't be buying another samsung phone... I really don't like the idea that the manufacturer would booby trap their product like that.
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I'm sure it's only a matter of time before someone cracks it. Genius devs like @Chainfire live for challenges like this
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I hope they crack it soon.. I've already had the urge to throw it against a wall more than once today. Its magically unrooted itself three times already and the problems seem to multiply every time I try a different OS in the hopes that one will work well.
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