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I've never seen anything like this. My battery literally dropped 6 percent in a split second while I was looking at the %. Is this a manufacturer defect, would a factory reset do anything to help? Please Help.
WackyClash said:
I've never seen anything like this. My battery literally dropped 6 percent in a split second while I was looking at the %. Is this a manufacturer defect, would a factory reset do anything to help? Please Help.
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No, not necessarily. It takes time for a system to properly calibrate the battery. You should always give it a few full charge cycles before assuming you have a problem.
phonic said:
No, not necessarily. It takes time for a system to properly calibrate the battery. You should always give it a few full charge cycles before assuming you have a problem.
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This.
I wouldn't worry about it it likely hasn't calibrated yet, I've seen many of my devices do this, especially new or freshly wiped
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You are overreacting. Large amount of power consumption in short time isn't unheard of. For example, it has been reported that phone searching for connections and syncing everything at once can cause large drops in battery meter. And battery meter isn't always accurate anyway.
If the battery drops more drastically and happens more than a couple of times, then I would worry.
My tablet does the same too it either goes from 78 to 76 or just skips from 30 to 26 randomly
The first day I got it, the battery went from ~50 to ~60. You read that right...it went up without charging. Just let the battery settle and it will become perfectly normal again.
Mine does the same, drop from 33% to 23% instantly. and while charging, it jumps from 94% to 100% too. But i do get 9:30 hrs use time with Chrome.
Still in the return period window, not sure to return it or not.
I think that the battery percentage sometimes freezes and doesnt update right. So once the software finally gets a good reading or update it will suddenly change alot. I had it stay at 85% for like 3 hours and was thinging, AWESOME this is amazing, then 15 minutes later it was at 50% and i was like, oh, damn it was just playing mind games with me.
The battery gauge doesn't really 'know' the charge state of the battery, it's just guessing more or less accurately based on a model of the battery.
It takes things like battery voltage, load, temperature, voltage change with varying load (to estimate internal resistance of the battery) to basically make an 'educated' guess of the charge state. There can be pretty big corrections of that guess - a 10% jump is very normal. It doesn't mean the battery charge state has changed, it just means the battery gauge has corrected it's estimate.
during charging, i seen that it increased 1% per every 4~6 mins from 1% to 94%, then it jumped to 100% from 94% in the next 6 mins.
It also skipped percentage 4~6 times while charging from 1% to 94%, 1% per skip.
I used Batterybot pro to monitor the battery, it will logs when the percentage has changed, that's how i know it was doing this.
I've been experiencing huge battery drops (from 10% up to 20%) after I reboot my phone. Is this a KitKat issue or is it my battery?
In the morning from 99% (after checking a few messages in the morning), I rebooted and I dropped 11% to 88%.
I think It may have been my battery giving me the huge drops. I don't seem to have this issue any more after buying a new one. :good:
I didnt found it on reboots, but i have this problem when i enter recovery. 20 minutes in recovery - i dont hace 20% of battery.
artur1131 said:
I didnt found it on reboots, but i have this problem when i enter recovery. 20 minutes in recovery - i dont hace 20% of battery.
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Hmmm that's strange.
I've noticed it usually drops more when I leave my headphones in.
full loaded ACE 2.
reboot cost u 5%
first 10 % gone in a few minutes for heavy users and in a few hours when deepsleep !!
what i wanna say.
the first 10 % gone in a few.
after that normal drain.
I often get this, although not as bad. I usually lose 2-5% on a reboot, sometimes up to 10%. The other week I charged it to 100% when it was off, turned it on and had 92%.
so is this actually a problem or is it normal for everyone?. Mine looses 5-8% in the first couple of minutes after I unplug the charger..
It's normal.
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edithswanneck said:
I often get this, although not as bad. I usually lose 2-5% on a reboot, sometimes up to 10%. The other week I charged it to 100% when it was off, turned it on and had 92%.
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Same experience. Around 5% to 10% is lost during my reboots.
ulalume said:
so is this actually a problem or is it normal for everyone?. Mine looses 5-8% in the first couple of minutes after I unplug the charger..
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Its normal. I usually lose the first 5% of a full charge in a couple of minutes. After it gets to 95%, battery charge will drain normally depending on usage.
Vino Kulafu said:
Same experience. Around 5% to 10% is lost during my reboots.
Its normal. I usually lose the first 5% of a full charge in a couple of minutes. After it gets to 95%, battery charge will drain normally depending on usage.
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ok then, thanks...I just thought that this didn;t happen when I was on GB, but it doesn;t matter anyway..
If I reboot once, I will lose between 5 - 10% battery. However, if I reboot straight after the first reboot, I will lose between 0 - 2% battery. I've never really understood this.
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Phone need more energy for reboot, that causing the drain. Mine usually drop 2-5%. After recharge battery alsi drop to 95-92% fast. Thats normal
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Battery Charging Issue
Is this normal?
When I charge my battery whether it be from mains or USB computer it charges ok, but as soon as it gets to 100% it still says charging for a little time and doesn't report the unplug charger message right away.
With the Jellybean 4.1.2 system I don't get the alert tone when the battery reaches FULL, therefore I have a feeling that when it still says charging even though it's showing 100% that it's actually decreasing power at that point, any help please?
I have tried other batteries, and one in particular goes from 90% right up to 100% and seems to miss that last 10 percent, so I don't use that one now.
I have the most current firmware installed.
Buy a new one
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pbgrout said:
Is this normal?
When I charge my battery whether it be from mains or USB computer it charges ok, but as soon as it gets to 100% it still says charging for a little time and doesn't report the unplug charger message right away.
With the Jellybean 4.1.2 system I don't get the alert tone when the battery reaches FULL, therefore I have a feeling that when it still says charging even though it's showing 100% that it's actually decreasing power at that point, any help please?
I have tried other batteries, and one in particular goes from 90% right up to 100% and seems to miss that last 10 percent, so I don't use that one now.
I have the most current firmware installed.
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when it says 100%, you still have to wait for a few minutes before it displays the green "full" icon in the upper left corner and asks you to disconnect the charger.
However, the first 5-8% always drains REALLY fast and not proportionally to the rest of the battery drain...
I think It may have been my battery giving me the huge drops. I don't seem to have this issue any more after buying a new one.
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I think It may have been my battery giving me the huge drops. I don't seem to have this issue any more after buying a new one.
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what about the initial drain? does the first 10% still drop fast or has this changed too with the new battery?
I just wish that JellyBean 4.1.2 would give an alert sound when the battery has reached it's full limit like Gingerbread used to do.
Who would be the best place to ask them to do this on their next update?
But I think that it does..a very short one indeed, but it does, along with the screen lighting up briefly..
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But I think that it does..a very short one indeed, but it does, along with the screen lighting up briefly..
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Doesn't make a sound on my phone and im not always looking at my phone to see it light up.
I have sounds all turned on and on full volume so no reason why I dont hear a sound when its reached full capacity.
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I've been experiencing huge battery drops (from 10% up to 20%) after I reboot my phone. Is this a KitKat issue or is it my battery?
In the morning from 99% (after checking a few messages in the morning), I rebooted and I dropped 11% to 88%.
I think It may have been my battery giving me the huge drops. I don't seem to have this issue any more after buying a new one. :good:
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are you using custom battery ? like double-powered-battery
Something odd happened to me today.
I went to sleep listening to an audiobook, the G3 was at 100% battery.
When I woke up ~8 hours later the battery was at 99%, it was plaing audio the whole time.
Obviously a display bug, when I went to see battery status it said 648 hours left.
So I restarted the G3 and nothing changed, the battery is now at a lower % but it behaves as though nothing happened.
Please tell me the battery micro-controller isn't screwed and doesn't now report 70% as the new 100%.
Dinger558 said:
Something odd happened to me today.
I went to sleep listening to an audiobook, the G3 was at 100% battery.
When I woke up ~8 hours later the battery was at 99%, it was plaing audio the whole time.
Obviously a display bug, when I went to see battery status it said 648 hours left.
So I restarted the G3 and nothing changed, the battery is now at a lower % but it behaves as though nothing happened.
Please tell me the battery micro-controller isn't screwed and doesn't now report 70% as the new 100%.
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I had something like this as well, but it went down a tick eventually. i was browsing reddit for 30 minutes at 100%, then it went to 99%. Not sure if it's just amazing battery life, or somethin'gs up.
Dinger558 said:
Something odd happened to me today.
I went to sleep listening to an audiobook, the G3 was at 100% battery.
When I woke up ~8 hours later the battery was at 99%, it was plaing audio the whole time.
Obviously a display bug, when I went to see battery status it said 648 hours left.
So I restarted the G3 and nothing changed, the battery is now at a lower % but it behaves as though nothing happened.
Please tell me the battery micro-controller isn't screwed and doesn't now report 70% as the new 100%.
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I would drain it to 0% and then charge it to 100% without unplugging it. That should recalibrate the battery
From 100% > 99% seems to take an age. But soon as it hits 99% it does drain considerably faster.
If you check you batter after you have charged it, it always says Estimated time remaining and collecting battery info... please wait.. until it drops to 100%
I have same issue but its not bother me much. Whats bother me is that some times when I go to sleep and live phone at 60% I wake up tomorow and its 60% and sometimes drops like 3 or 5%...any one have that issue?
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Well, it's hard to say but maybe it wasn't a problem after all.
Seems like the battery % is highly inaccurate at top levels. 100->99 takes much longer than 99->98.
I took the advice of someone in this thread and fully discharged the battery and then fully charged it.
It did take a while though, 6-7 hours from <1% to 100%. Using a computer USB port for charging.
Is charging faster with the provided power USB adapter? Or with wireless charging?
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Well, it's hard to say but maybe it wasn't a problem after all.
Seems like the battery % is highly inaccurate at top levels. 100->99 takes much longer than 99->98.
I took the advice of someone in this thread and fully discharged the battery and then fully charged it.
It did take a while though, 6-7 hours from <1% to 100%. Using a computer USB port for charging.
Is charging faster with the provided power USB adapter? Or with wireless charging?
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Yes and yes, if you use an apropiate AC Adaptor. Pc is usually charging at 500 mA and an Ac Adaptor up to 2 Amps. So you charge 4 times quicker in theory.
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Hi there,
I just got my phone and I thought the quick charging should charge my phone fron 0-80 in about 35 minutes...
I turned off the phone and from 0-35% took around 32 minutes which does not sound right...
Is it because the phone was turned off?
Or something needed to be set? Its the factory default charger.
Thanks in advance
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Did you literally just get it and plug it in, or did you run it all the way down to 0% and then plug it in?
holz75 said:
Did you literally just get it and plug it in, or did you run it all the way down to 0% and then plug it in?
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I did literally wait to go down to 0% and then I plugged in
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Well, the first thing you'll probably hear around here is never let it discharge all the way to 0% because it's bad for the battery. I'm guessing that, if you did let it go all the way to 0%, it might take a little bit to get going again, so the charging time would indeed be longer.
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Well, the first thing you'll probably hear around here is never let it discharge all the way to 0% because it's bad for the battery. I'm guessing that, if you did let it go all the way to 0%, it might take a little bit to get going again, so the charging time would indeed be longer.
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I am not sure why would it be bad for the battery?
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If you Google something like, "lithium ion battery discharge 0%", you'll find all types of reasons why it's possibly harmful to your battery.
Nope.
Mine charges to about 40% in 30 Minutes. That's normal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66920323
Don't worry about that 0% nonesense.
Smartphones are Idiotproof. You can't do anything wrong to damage them with normal usage.
Yes of course it's Bad for battery life (long term) if you drain it to 0% every day but until 4% is completely fine.
Why is it Bad to drain a battery to low? Take a look at the battery Voltage Graph in my Charging Chart. Charging is even more Voltage than discharging. If you use and App to check battery Voltage you will see about 3.7V at 4% and it Drops to 3.6.... 3.5..... 3.4V the closer it gets to 0%
Batteries don't like that.
Feels like my nexus 6 charger charges faster than stock HTC 10 charger
Don't just tell us about your feels.
Install the batteryLog app and let it run for a charge, then Export to file and show the csv here.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.hwangti.batterylog
zimilaci said:
I am not sure why would it be bad for the battery?
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OK, quick look.
A Li_ion battery has a life cycles 400 - 500, that means battery can go from 100% to 0% normally 400 - 500 times, after that, battery will start to get problems, e g, you see it's 100% battery but in 30 minutes normal usage it goes to 0%.
If you charge the battery to 100%, then recharge it only if it gets down to 0% every single day, then after one year it's very likely you'll face the battery issues.
Yeah.... so if you recharge your phone not when it's at 0% but at 50% you will have around 800-1000 cycles...
AND you charge your phone about twice as much as the other guy who only charges at 0% so in the end you both end up with the same battery capacity after a year xD
P.S 400-500 life cycles means until the battery has 75% of its original capacity left, and not untill it's totally unuseable
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Yeah.... so if you recharge your phone not when it's at 0% but at 50% you will have around 800-1000 cycles...
AND you charge your phone about twice as much as the other guy who only charges at 0% so in the end you both end up with the same battery capacity after a year xD
P.S 400-500 life cycles means until the battery has 75% of its original capacity left, and not untill it's totally unuseable
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Exactly!
Hi guys,
For those having the A70, does the "Super Fast Charging" feature work for you ?
With the original provided charger (with the "Super Fast Charging" logo on it), I need 3 hours to go from 9% to 100%.
So that is 1% every 2 minutes...
I do not consider this a "Super fast". I think it is "Decent" but would not go above that...
For me, this a severe disappointment... Unless of course I am doing something wrong
Anyone else can share his results for Super fast charging here ?
Regards.
Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
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Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
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Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
Pe3ball said:
Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
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Hi,
Thanks for the info => Super Fast Charging only with display off ?
So if I leave "Always On" it will not work ?
Maybe that is why...
Anyways, I did as you suggested : I have done a full factory reset, and I have installed the bare minimum of Apps.
We will see about battery drain an battery charging.
I'll keep you posted.
Best regards.
https://imge.to/i/8E6
Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
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Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
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Hi Sufyan3D,
Thanks a lot for that info...
I've made sure that the fast charge is enabled.
So far, the device is still at 100% so I can't say if the problem is "solved", but I'll make sure to report if now it charges as it should
And also about battery drain...
Regards.
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
Pe3ball said:
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
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Hi,
So far, I cannot tell about the Fast charge.
But the phone is almost idle (really gently used) with "Always on" enabled.
It's been idle since about 3hours and battery is at 98%.
I consider this a rather good result.
Hope it'll stay as it is once I install all my apps...
If not, I'll try to track the culprit for the high battery drain.
Regards.
I have same problem, after reading your post, I drained my battery to 9% and charge, it so slow while charging.
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It's pretty fast just over a hour and near full charge from 20% , pretty solid so far took it of charge at 7am and at 7:30pm still on 54% and been on it all day taking photos /slow mo vids web browsing the norm and still going strong!! [emoji2]
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Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
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Download a free app called "Ampere" from the Play Store, to measure your charging current. Plug the phone into the charger then open the App to get the measurements. Post your result here and compare with other A70 owners.
App shows that my charging current is around 1100mah (with the 25w charger)
I landed here as I was surprised how slow my A70 was to charge. It takes around 3 hours to get from 15% to full, using the included Samsung 3A charger & original cable. Ampere shows the current trickling in at around 850mA. Super Fast Charging is enabled. My previous phone was a Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite which charged at around 2A according to Ampere.
PS I found this link which suggests most of the fast charging happens early in the cycle https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/02/how-fast-is-samsung-25w-super-fast-charging
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
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Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
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I've never tested it. I have fast charge turned off. I charge my phone over night. The battery lasts me all day every day.
Samsung A70 Failed!!
I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
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I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
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I am not facing such issues in my device. Regarding development, for a device like a70, development is always slow. We have the source codes available. The only thing missing is developers onboarding to support the device. If at least 1 dev puts the kernel and device source codes and tree in github, I bet development will start soon after.
GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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I took some readings with Ampere during a charge:
0 mins 8% battery 4050mA
30 mins 38% battery 1060mA
60 mins 52% battery 1050mA
90 mins 66% battery 1020mA
120 mins 81% battery 1080mA
150 mins 91% battery 1000mA
180 mins 100% battery
So 3h from nearly empty to full which is not exactly fast. Is this in line with what others get?