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G Nexus VS SGS3

Which of these 2 devices are you guys most interested in? If they both come out with LTE on Sprint and ICS of course? I personally am Wowed by the camera in our ET4G and hope that the next one only gets better ... what do you guys think?

Obviously it'll be the SGS3
GNexus is already old and barely a step up from the ET4G

I dunno it's gonna be a hard decision. Im sure the Sprint GalNex will be out much sooner.

Jess813 said:
Which of these 2 devices are you guys most interested in? If they both come out with LTE on Sprint and ICS of course? I personally am Wowed by the camera in our ET4G and hope that the next one only gets better ... what do you guys think?
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Your talking about a phone that could drop in a month vs a phone that is not even going to be announced until Mwc ....then will sell in maybe June or July internationally and sprint maybe Oct or November ....might as well just say next evo in there too ...
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I dunno it's gonna be a hard decision. Im sure the Sprint GalNex will be out much sooner.
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True but it might be the obvious choice for updates other than that I heard the camera is not up to par with the ET4G and the Evo comment I have to say that it would have to blow me away and they are becoming less open than Sammy

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True but it might be the obvious choice for updates other than that I heard the camera is not up to par with the ET4G and the Evo comment I have to say that it would have to blow me away and they are becoming less open than Sammy
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I am just saying sprint has said 12 different lte devices by end of year ... the first will be sg nexus but when will others be out are they able to be hacked ie s-off if HTC etc ... who knows my user experience with 3d says they will have to put a great phone out to get me to ever go back to HTC ... if Samsung is upgrading CPU and gpu for sprint version of galaxy nexus they may upgrade cam and screen or none .... we won't know until they say ... just a guessing game huh..
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Your talking about a phone that could drop in a month vs a phone that is not even going to be announced until Mwc ....then will sell in maybe June or July internationally and sprint maybe Oct or November ....might as well just say next evo in there too ...
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Samsung released a statement saying the sgs3 won't be revealed at mwc. It will have an event in the first half of the year as it nears public release.
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Galaxy Note..

Would you guys pick one up? If it comes to Sprint.
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Would you guys pick one up? If it comes to Sprint.
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I don't think I will but only because of the size. I have small hands and the E4GT is at the top of my comfort level already but the Note is a sweet looking device so I will give it a look if it does come to Sprint. I think the rumored Sprint name is the Galaxy Journal?

Esoteric68 said:
I don't think I will but only because of the size. I have small hands and the E4GT is at the top of my comfort level already but the Note is a sweet looking device so I will give it a look if it does come to Sprint. I think the rumored Sprint name is the Galaxy Journal?
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Yeah its supposedly called the journal but nothing official. I would.just love the size of the screen. It would be a no-brainer for me. Even this epic touch is a little small for my hands.
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Would you guys pick one up? If it comes to Sprint.
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Yup...
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Again nothing official but this add for a Sprint feature shows an unbranded Galaxy Note. Maybe there is something to the rumors that Sprint will get it. I believe kc_exactly said as much in another thread.
http://9to5google.com/2012/04/10/samsung-galaxy-note-launching-on-sprint-soon/

That would be just bigger than pocket size after you add a case for more bulk
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Esoteric68 said:
Again nothing official but this add for a Sprint feature shows an unbranded Galaxy Note. Maybe there is something to the rumors that Sprint will get it. I believe kc_exactly said as much in another thread.
http://9to5google.com/2012/04/10/samsung-galaxy-note-launching-on-sprint-soon/
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I believe kc said he had a note a gnex a evo lte and something else. I would drop this phone in a heartbeat for the note/journal. I already struggle trying to type in portrait on this phone.
I always keep my phone on my hip so a case would not be needed by me, but I do understand the concern.
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Hell yea i would that would be my last phone ever
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Hell yea i would that would be my last phone ever
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It would definitely get the two years out of me.
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I really would like to get one but I'm having second thoughts about paying full price for a bigger screen. I should, but doubt I will knowing my impulsiveness, wait to see if there's any problems initially like there was with this phone when it first comes out. I will also wonder what kind of specs the g3 well have and when it will be here for us. Those are the two I'm watching. Also, if the note still has a dual core snapdragon when it comes out for us, I might pass. Two steps forward with the hardware then one back with the CPU.

Id buy one first day.
The wider screen will make browsing waay better

oscarthegrouch said:
I really would like to get one but I'm having second thoughts about paying full price for a bigger screen. I should, but doubt I will knowing my impulsiveness, wait to see if there's any problems initially like there was with this phone when it first comes out. I will also wonder what kind of specs the g3 well have and when it will be here for us. Those are the two I'm watching. Also, if the note still has a dual core snapdragon when it comes out for us, I might pass. Two steps forward with the hardware then one back with the CPU.
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Very true statement. If it domes with an S4pro with the new adreno gpu that thing will be a monster. I know that Samsung will eventually integrate lte in their processors but when is the question.
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Yes. Give me one with LTE and any exynos processor and I would be totally satisfied and have no need for anything else for the rest of that contract at least!

With how big the battery is, couldn't they just put an lte radio in there and have a toggle to turn it off and on like wimax? Then it would still be our responsibility to watch the battery. I could totally go for something like that as long as they kept the exynos. But do not count out the S4pro it has the upgraded gpu also with lte built on the die.
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If it came with ICS out of the box, and LTE support. Would definitely pick it up.

Because I too will be paying full price (unless I come up with a way to sweet talk an early upgrade out of someone) and since I'm not even 100% sold on getting the phone, I'm definitely going to wait awhile and see how it performs. Also the extra wait time will allow a chance for the SG3 to possibly make an appearance, that's the phone I really want.
But I'm a major gadget whore so there's no guarantee what I will or won't buy regardless the cost. lol

I don't know...I like the Note, but I would need a few things in order to lock myself in for 2 more years for it. First, LTE capability. ICS would be good, but not necessary at launch for me.
It would need an upgraded processor though. With the Evo LTE coming out and the SGS III likely to be announced sometime soon, I don't want to get stuck with a last gen processor for 2 years.
Honestly, I probably won't make a decision on my next phone until I see what Sammy has up their sleeve.

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Would you guys pick one up? If it comes to Sprint.
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Hell yea , phatman likes phat phones. Im sure the dual core 1.5 will be plenty fast to handle anything. I already get zero lag on this phone.
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Id buy one first day.
The wider screen will make browsing waay better
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Im camping outside.

Amazon has 5000ma extended life batteries by hyperion AND there's a tpu case for the extended battery too.

As far as a phone the SG2 is the biggest i'll go, and I already have a Galaxy Tab 10.1, but if I had neither of these then maybe. After a fondling session at the dealers first....

Future upgrade choices...

Here's what I've got:
1) Get Evo LTE (fugly battery door/case - whoever designed it should be fired for being an idiot) in about a week and a half,
2) Wait for SGS3 LTE (same qualcomm s4 cpu, if you believe the rumors), probably better software than htc, fewer source releases and updates. Waiting is for "Summer 2012".
3) Switch to Verizon/ATT (att sucks here) and wait for an SGS3-powered phone (not even announced yet).
4) Switch to ATT One X (available now, awesome phone, att service sucks here).

If art sucks option 3 and 4 shouldn't matter. You can't really compare the evo with the sgs3 because the us variants are always different than the international version.
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Overstew said:
If art sucks option 3 and 4 shouldn't matter. You can't really compare the evo with the sgs3 because the us variants are always different than the international version.
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According to Anandtech benchmarks, S4 is about from twice faster to similar in performance, compared to Exynos quad core in cpu benches.
Exynos seems to be about 30% faster in some gpu benches. It terms on IO ops/internal storage speed, it's a wash.
I'm definitely going with One X screen being much better than SGS3 one. I base this on having seen an ATT One X screen and GN screen. I doubt that SGS3 screen is much better than GN screen. Pentile is pentile.

Just wait till Oct Nov and buy the nexus that comes out. If anything at least you get first inline updates
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jamesey said:
Just wait till Oct Nov and buy the nexus that comes out. If anything at least you get first inline updates
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Wait?
Why would I wait for next gen phones?
It makes no sense!

nabbed said:
Wait?
Why would I wait for next gen phones?
It makes no sense!
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Because the ones already announced are no diff then s2. Why waste 2 year upgrade for same gen phone. Nexus leads. Expect nothing until nexus comes
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nabbed said:
Here's what I've got:
1) Get Evo LTE (fugly battery door/case - whoever designed it should be fired for being an idiot) in about a week and a half,
2) Wait for SGS3 LTE (same qualcomm s4 cpu, if you believe the rumors), probably better software than htc, fewer source releases and updates. Waiting is for "Summer 2012".
3) Switch to Verizon/ATT (att sucks here) and wait for an SGS3-powered phone (not even announced yet).
4) Switch to ATT One X (available now, awesome phone, att service sucks here).
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All the stock/marketing pics of the Evo LTE really lead me to believe the back wasn't that bad. When I saw a live pic today from Android & Me I was REALLY dissappointed how ugly it looked. Oh well, my girl's got her's on preorder so I don't have to carry it around, plus she'll probably get a case for it anyhow.
HOWEVER... if you can complain about the back of the EVO LTE then take a look at that dumpster fire that is the SGSIII. That thing is HORRIBLE. I WILL not buy that if it looks anything like what they are showing as the international version. It looks like $hit.
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jamesey said:
Because the ones already announced are no diff then s2. Why waste 2 year upgrade for same gen phone. Nexus leads. Expect nothing until nexus comes
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The problem is by the time Sprint usually get's the Nexus it's already 6 months old and newer better phones are already out.

jamesey said:
Just wait till Oct Nov and buy the nexus that comes out. If anything at least you get first inline updates
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Problem with this is that when October rolls around, another phone will be announced for summer, leaving you in a perpetual state of waiting. Live in the now. Buy all of them.
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jamesey said:
Because the ones already announced are no diff then s2. Why waste 2 year upgrade for same gen phone. Nexus leads. Expect nothing until nexus comes
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1) I buy **** outright. Who checks upgrade options?
2) ET is inferior to ATT One X.
I actually picked up my balls, put them in my car and drove to the mall. I then found the ATT store. I then compared my current white ET to that white One X.
It was not even close. I felt like I was about to switch from Evo3d to ET.
In fact, it was probably a bigger difference. One X (S4 Krait) is a new gen phone.

nabbed said:
1) i buy **** outright. Who checks upgrade options?
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ballllliinnnnnnnn!

jirafabo said:
ballllliinnnnnnnn!
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Come on, nagging Nancy! Not everyone has the time to be nonsorcastic. Your vagina sure doesn't.

jamesey said:
Just wait till Oct Nov and buy the nexus that comes out. If anything at least you get first inline updates
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To me hardware wise the nexus line wasn't worth the "upgrade"

nabbed said:
Come on, nagging Nancy! Not everyone has the time to be nonsorcastic. Your vagina sure doesn't.
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Hey nabbed, there's nothing wrong with being a balla! If you can afford it, buy them all! The more power to you

Dumb question here, but how's the T-Mobile coverage in your area? You could get the international One X if their coverage is good enough and you don't mind the loss of LTE.
And I'm with you, I'd probably burn some cash to get the One X but instead Sprint comes out with the fugly Evo LTE.
I would wait until the SGSIII comes out for Sprint just to see how it compares with the Evo LTE and One X then decide from there. There's nothing like actually holding a phone in your hand.

AJC9000 said:
To me hardware wise the nexus line wasn't worth the "upgrade"
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Of course cause it's 6 months old. Wait till Christmas 2012
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the new sony phone looks really good to me...

nabbed said:
Come on, nagging Nancy! Not everyone has the time to be nonsorcastic. Your vagina sure doesn't.
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Yeah, "baaaallllliiiinnnnn" is a compliment.
dumbass.

jamesey said:
Of course cause it's 6 months old. Wait till Christmas 2012
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I'm not sure if we get what each other are saying here. I'm saying no matter how you slice it international version or not the Nexus was never ahead of the spectrum it had old hardware the only plus to the GN is the zero shutter lag but now thats been taken care of
Plus by christmas 2012 we'll all be dead
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Come on, nagging Nancy! Not everyone has the time to be nonsorcastic. Your vagina sure doesn't.
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Double post but its worth it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r49ydtBbghI&feature=related

Don't forget the LG? I wonder if sprint will get a Sony ever either.
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http://phandroid.com/2012/05/09/new...ke-online-s4-processor-nfc-and-android-4-0-4/
I'm thoroughly confused by this article. It seems to insinuate that this is our coming SGSIII (ignore this, read it wrong) but starting at a price of $100? Seems very low ball to me. Is it possible there are two levels of the SGSIII coming to Sprint?
Okay yeah, this isn't THE SGSIII but seems to be a mid-level option. Frankly I'm not the least bit interested in mid-level phones and, like nabbed, I generally end up buying my phones at full price rather than wait for an upgrade. I've only ever successfully nabbed an early upgrade once and wasted it on the EVO 3D.

Jelly Bean for LGOG

Expect it very soon. Got a good word this morning. Don't know much, just that we should get it very soon. Within a few weeks but could possibly be this week.
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Who told you? A cousin of a friend's grandmother who works at the Sprint store? Or was it a cousin of a friends sisters brother who works for LG?
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I work for Sprint and talked to my LG rep this morning.
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Great news! Thanks for the update.
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I work for Sprint and talked to my LG rep this morning.
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I'm glad your LG rep is actually worth a darn. Ours always came around and talked up the LG products but never knew much about them. We got some laughs when he told us Apple stole the iPhone design from LG. And honestly, they might have. But this guy was 1000% LG is better than everything, regardless of what it was.
Never gave us any insight on oncoming updates or new releases or anything, but he'll argue with you til you're blue in the face if you tell him a Samsung TV is better than an LG for any reason given.

Good news? You mean great news. But I am betting 3-4 weeks. I really want to be proved wrong. Jb update means new stuff to not be bored for a few weeks. Then it mean jb source and new stuff to not be bored for a long time. This phone could beat my 6 month record for a phone!
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This phone could beat my 6 month record for a phone!
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I had the EVO LTE, GS3, Note 2 and now the LG OG.
How about that for a line up of phones?

@Epic Great News! BTW, who pulled the Sprint Network TURBO switch on January 18th and can you ask them to put it back on?
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@Epic Great News! BTW, who pulled the Sprint Network TURBO switch on January 18th and can you ask them to put it back on?
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Hehe. You have the same problem as me. When 4G kicks in the signal drops.
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Hehe. You have the same problem as me. When 4G kicks in the signal drops.
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That will go away once lte is finally done. The LG rep that comes to our store hasn't been there in a while. Or at least when I have been working. I'll ask him next time he's there.
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shook187 said:
I had the EVO LTE, GS3, Note 2 and now the LG OG.
How about that for a line up of phones?
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Haha same here
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Same here minus the note 2 I got the iPhone 5 instead
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Let's hope he was right I can't wait to get jb on this

I'm crossing my fingers. I need some good news this week!
Thanks for the update!

great newwwwws!!

has anyone actually seen jelly bean running on an Optimus G yet? I know it's been released in South Korea, but I've been trying to find a changelog or something that actually shows the new features. I've been checking youtube everyday to see if there are videos of the new software, but nothing yet... which seems weird to me
does anyone have a changelog or even a video of the official jelly bean update running on an Optimus G?

spatel9114 said:
has anyone actually seen jelly bean running on an Optimus G yet? I know it's been released in South Korea, but I've been trying to find a changelog or something that actually shows the new features. I've been checking youtube everyday to see if there are videos of the new software, but nothing yet... which seems weird to me
does anyone have a changelog or even a video of the official jelly bean update running on an Optimus G?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jInp9DeNko0
Found that. Doesn't show too much..

megamaster2 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jInp9DeNko0
Found that. Doesn't show too much..
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I guess it's something. I wish LG would release a changelog so we can see the official features that are added. I think there is one at the Korean LG website, but I tried Google Translate on it and it didn't translate it very well..

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jInp9DeNko0
Found that. Doesn't show too much..
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It doesn't show a lot, but some of the features there look pretty slick. I liked the translate feature from the Camera, that looks pretty awesome.
EDIT: Do you think that this is due to the Optimus G Pro announcement? The two phones seem very similar and it makes sense that rolling out the one device with JB at the same time that they are updating the other is logical and fairly easy, right? Or am I stuipd? (see what I did there?)

Yeah that makes sense actually. I think the specs are relatively the same for both devices (obviously Pro is a bit faster and powerful, but I think besides the bump in clock speed, everything else is the same), and even then, I've heard the phones are the same but the Pro is just overclocked with the same processor. Here's an excerpt from the Engadget article when the Pro was announced:
There's now a quicker, 1.7GHz Snapdragon S4 Pro chip, a heftier 3,000mAh battery and Jelly Bean (albeit Android 4.1, not 4.2) out of the box. Other elements are familiar carryovers, such as the 2GB of RAM, 13-megapixel camera, 32GB of built-in storage, a microSDXC slot and LTE
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So looks like the same chip, so my guess would be that it's just overclocked, so hopefully the Jelly Bean update will come soon. I think the Pro is set to release in April...hope they don't keep us waiting that long

http://androidos.in/2013/01/lg-optimus-g-worldwide-roll-out-begins-with-jelly-bean-on-board/
Looks like this might have something to do with it as well. The standard OG is rolling out to 50 countries with JB pre-loaded.

LG announces Optimus F5 and LG Optimus F7.

http://phandroid.com/?p=116872
Both mid-range devices. And both with Jelly Bean. I'm hoping this is more signs we should see the update soon.
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http://phandroid.com/?p=116872
Both mid-range devices. And both with Jelly Bean. I'm hoping this is more signs we should see the update soon.
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Man they HAVE to be done with it by now what's dumb is the f7 is practically an optimus g. Similar specs so lg is just being bad real bad
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Man they HAVE to be done with it by now what's dumb is the f7 is practically an optimus g. Similar specs so lg is just being bad real bad
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the f7 has a 1.5Ghz dual core ,an 8 megapixel camera, a micro-SD card slot and only 8GB storage capacity so i don't really see the similarity.

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the f7 has a 1.5Ghz dual core ,an 8 megapixel camera, a micro-SD card slot and only 8GB storage capacity so i don't really see the similarity.
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Ours is 1.5 att has 8 mp camera don't get smart although yea theyre still different but it still bothers me nonetheless haha
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Remember this is the sprint version so 13 mp lol
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Ours is 1.5 att has 8 mp camera don't get smart although yea theyre still different but it still bothers me nonetheless haha
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Our Optimus is quad core
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Remember this is the sprint version so 13 mp lol
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I know but the att version is still an optimus g period. That's all I said I didn't say sprint specific. I will admit tho I didn't notice it was 1.5 dual core on the f-whatever I just want jb thats all.....
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Both of those phones are running the exact same LG UI but we don't have JB.
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If they are releasing JB for everything but our phone is this then a carrier delay rather than manufacturer?
LG is releasing GSM & CDMA OG's worldwide with jelly Bean. Its done from what I have read. Seems like the only variable in the equation is the control happy united states providers.
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Xiutehcuhtli said:
If they are releasing JB for everything but our phone is this then a carrier delay rather than manufacturer?
LG is releasing GSM & CDMA OG's worldwide with jelly Bean. Its done from what I have read. Seems like the only variable in the equation is the control happy united states providers.
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You would be correct but lg is testing as much as possible due to the horrible job they did bringing gingerbread to the optimus s. They are making sure it releases with a 99.99% bug less product.
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neemot said:
You would be correct but lg is testing as much as possible due to the horrible job they did bringing gingerbread to the optimus s. They are making sure it releases with a 99.99% bug less product.
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I wish I could beleive that but at this moment I feel is just pure lazyness... If this is how is going to be with LG I migth be switching over the new HTC ONE when available.

sandroiduser said:
I wish I could beleive that but at this moment I feel is just pure lazyness... If this is how is going to be with LG I migth be switching over the new HTC ONE when available.
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Why would they just not release an update that makes no sense but I do understand what you mean in regards to LG being late with updates.
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I see these same things about bad updates on every phone I've ever owned. When I had the thunderbolt everyone complained about htc. Then I had the droid charge and everyone complained about Samsung. The way I see it at this point is I don't buy a phone unless its good enough to begin with because you can't count on updates unless you buy nexus. Now every update I get is just a cool bonus. I love my optimus g though and I'm sure the devs here are going to do great things.
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gwarslave1673 said:
I see these same things about bad updates on every phone I've ever owned. When I had the thunderbolt everyone complained about htc. Then I had the droid charge and everyone complained about Samsung. The way I see it at this point is I don't buy a phone unless its good enough to begin with because you can't count on updates unless you buy nexus. Now every update I get is just a cool bonus. I love my optimus g though and I'm sure the devs here are going to do great things.
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Amen
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Sick phone.will have snapdragon 600
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LG Optimus F7 = LG LTE III
I have ordered one from Chinese dealer. It will arrive in a few days.
The design seems very nice and even better than Optimus G. For one it just costs about 350 USD.
And also it includes a 2540mah battery, True HD IPS mon, MSM8960, 2G ram.
All reviews I saw show positive feedbacks. I suggest those who like the above feature should try.

I've been trying to find a store that sells optimus f5 ever since it was "released" in France, but I haven't been able to find a single store (in EU) that has this phone in stock. Has anyone actually seen this phone in the wild, available to general public?
I'd really love to get this phone because I absolutely detest huge screens of current "flagship phones", but sadly I can't fine one to buy.

h0m3b0y said:
I've been trying to find a store that sells optimus f5 ever since it was "released" in France, but I haven't been able to find a single store (in EU) that has this phone in stock. Has anyone actually seen this phone in the wild, available to general public?
I'd really love to get this phone because I absolutely detest huge screens of current "flagship phones", but sadly I can't fine one to buy.
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official optimus f5 is in store in Hong Kong. it is nice but the screen is really not as good as the f7's true HD IPS. i don't get it there should be normally many dealers from china who would ship these phone to europe and us. maybe it's all the high tax making it not available in some areas.

Can someone please tell the type GPU of F7. I don't know weather it can play games like MC4, FIFA12 & other big games smoothly.

yagazee said:
Can someone please tell the type GPU of F7. I don't know weather it can play games like MC4, FIFA12 & other big games smoothly.
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uhh way to necrobump an old thread. anyways my money is on the qualcomm s4 chipset that was in the sgs3 last year.