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Been running Blend from Team Noc for a bit and having a lot of core crashes, as well as some issues with notifications, etc. So I installed Blend 6.0 this morning and still had problems so wanted to try something else while those issues get fixed.
I went into recovery and this is a new recov I have never seen. It simply shows the android, then the following;
Android System Recovery <3e>
I was going to wipe using Caulk's and install another ICS ROM, so went to apply update from external storage (since that was the only option that made sense). Went to the folder they were, selected the format all and it took me back to the android guy on his back with a triangle!
So I am kinda stuck with this ROM unless I can get cqm back on (I guess). There are just so many threads that are out there, some old, some new, the sg2 has 5 flavors it seems based on the carrier (I am on sprint) so from what I can tell, it's the 4G touch.
Thanks to all read/replies.
use odin, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609255
Just use mobile odin and select the tar file w/recovery. You tried to boot into recovery without a recovery installed which is why it looked funny.
Thanks guys. I followed the 1st post (as I didn't see the 2nd) and ran the step's using a windows machine. Odin saw the device, flashed it, all green, success, and restarted.
Followed up with the quick root/CWM app and worked like a charm. I am back to square one now, did install Venum Ice RC3.1.1 which looked pretty clean, but 1st thing I noticed was anything that uses the media card doesn't work (camera for example). You hit it, returns you to the app drawer.
So, with what's out there right now, what seems to be the most stable with the basic's, (phone, data, camera, etc.)
Thanks again, was well worth the wait to do it correctly!
I've been using CM9A3 as my everyday from. Solid as a rock. I have 0 issue.
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I'd say it was official if I did not know any better.
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I am also on Team Noc's The Goodness Version 6 without a custom recovery, and have a similar question. In that thread they were discussing using Odin to flash a kernel with CM, and they posted two kernals one that is the FD02 (ICS) and the other is EL29 (GB). I am currently on an ICS rom that works with the newly flashed FD02 kernal. However, my question is while on ICS can I odin to the GB recovery kernal so that I can flash a different GB rom? I am nervous to try because I have heard of people bricking going from ICS to GB, but if this works it would make my life easier as a flashaholic
Mastershake725 said:
I am also on Team Noc's The Goodness Version 6 without a custom recovery, and have a similar question. In that thread they were discussing using Odin to flash a kernel with CM, and they posted two kernals one that is the FD02 (ICS) and the other is EL29 (GB). I am currently on an ICS rom that works with the newly flashed FD02 kernal. However, my question is while on ICS can I odin to the GB recovery kernal so that I can flash a different GB rom? I am nervous to try because I have heard of people bricking going from ICS to GB, but if this works it would make my life easier as a flashaholic
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Use Mobile Odin to flash EL26+cwm kernel( http://db.tt/0QJkleJR ), hold volume^+power to boot into cwm wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvick, flash rom, flash gapps, and reboot. People brick from using a ICS recovery to go back from certain ROMs. EL26+cwm is always the safest choice to flash with.
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Mastershake725 said:
I am also on Team Noc's The Goodness Version 6 without a custom recovery, and have a similar question. In that thread they were discussing using Odin to flash a kernel with CM, and they posted two kernals one that is the FD02 (ICS) and the other is EL29 (GB). I am currently on an ICS rom that works with the newly flashed FD02 kernal. However, my question is while on ICS can I odin to the GB recovery kernal so that I can flash a different GB rom? I am nervous to try because I have heard of people bricking going from ICS to GB, but if this works it would make my life easier as a flashaholic
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Yes you can mobile odin the el26 repack with cwm (not the rogue one) I believe its still at the top of the Nocturnal Venum rom thread. Flash in cwm and as it boots hold down the volume and power buttons. It should boot into the blue cwm. Flash whatever you want. Or mobile odin the el26 repack cwm and as it reboots hold the same buttons down to boot into recovery and flash away. El29 doesnt have a cwm repack (its rogue and not what you need). Keep in mind that mobile odin WILL NOT flash modem so dont try it.
Edit: The post above says basically the same thing. DO NOT use el29 kernel. Just reminding you...
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Yes you can mobile odin the el26 repack with cwm (not the rogue one) I believe its still at the top of the Nocturnal Venum rom thread. Flash in cwm and as it boots hold down the volume and power buttons. It should boot into the blue cwm. Flash whatever you want. Or mobile odin the el26 repack cwm and as it reboots hold the same buttons down to boot into recovery and flash away. El29 doesnt have a cwm repack (its rogue and not what you need). Keep in mind that mobile odin WILL NOT flash modem so dont try it.
Edit: The post above says basically the same thing. DO NOT use el29 kernel. Just reminding you...
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Thanks for the quick response! Just a clarification, I do have the el26+CWM (el29 was a typo). Lets say I want to leave ICS for another rom, and a use mobile odin to go back to el26 and accidentally boot into my ICS sandwich rom. Is there any potential risk of bricking there? Also, what is the significance of flashing a modem? I already have an EL29 modem and I am happy with the current setup, do most roms/kernals have baked in modems? And if so should I avoid them when using odin?
Mastershake725 said:
Thanks for the quick response! Just a clarification, I do have the el26+CWM (el29 was a typo). Lets say I want to leave ICS for another rom, and a use mobile odin to go back to el26 and accidentally boot into my ICS sandwich rom. Is there any potential risk of bricking there? Also, what is the significance of flashing a modem? I already have an EL29 modem and I am happy with the current setup, do most roms/kernals have baked in modems? And if so should I avoid them when using odin?
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You can't boot into a ICS ROM on el26 it is a GB kernel. Every ROM I have used has baked in kernel but no modem. Any modem for e4gt will work with any ROM. Kernels are GB and ICS specific.
Edit:el26+cwm is juts safer to flash ICS ROMs/kernels. When you flash a ROM it will replace the kernel. Just use mobile odin to flash back to el26+cwm to flash new ROMs/modems(wiping like usuall). If changing modem just flash el26+cwm, wipe cache/dalvik, flash modem of choice, and flash ICS kernel of choice. Reboot.
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You can't boot into a ICS ROM on el26 it is a GB kernel. Every ROM I have used has baked in kernel but no modem. Any modem for e4gt will work with any ROM. Kernels are GB and ICS specific.
Edit:el26+cwm is juts safer to flash ICS ROMs/kernels. When you flash a ROM it will replace the kernel. Just use mobile odin to flash back to el26+cwm to flash new ROMs/modems(wiping like usuall). If changing modem just flash el26+cwm, wipe cache/dalvik, flash modem of choice, and flash ICS kernel of choice. Reboot.
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Thanks for the tips that makes a lot of sense! I am gaining confidence of going between ICS & GB. Now is it the same process for roms like AOKP, MIUI, and CM7/9? I have heard they also need specific recoveries to operate correctly.
Yes, el26cwm only and they only use aosp kernels. I believe T.C.P. has them on one of his threads.
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Hi all, I'm new here (well, not to XDA) as I just purchased this phone 2 days ago. I love it so far. It's such and upgrade from my LG Optimus that I almost considered not rooting or flashing ROM's. Of course, I caved in last night.
Anyway, I have a couple questions regarding Odin and the process around flashing different kernels/modems, etc. Any help would be great. I successfully flashed Blue Kuban without issues as I'm familiar with CWM and all that great stuff.
1. Is there a good tutorial that I can use to do more research on Odin? I see there's a mobile version and a PC version, so I'm not sure which to use.
2. I see in some ROM's, the install instructions state to first flash a specific kernel with Odin. Is this to prevent bricks from flashing from ICS to ICS ROM's?
3. Hypothetically, if I wanted to switch from Blue Kuban to CM9 (or any other ICS ROM), couldn't I just restore my stock GB back up and then flash CM9 (or any other ICS ROM)? If not, what is the most user friendly method you use?
Thanks all, really glad I chose this phone, it looks like there's awesome development for it! Any help is greatly appreciated!
mjs2011 said:
Hi all, I'm new here (well, not to XDA) as I just purchased this phone 2 days ago. I love it so far. It's such and upgrade from my LG Optimus that I almost considered not rooting or flashing ROM's. Of course, I caved in last night.
Anyway, I have a couple questions regarding Odin and the process around flashing different kernels/modems, etc. Any help would be great. I successfully flashed Blue Kuban without issues as I'm familiar with CWM and all that great stuff.
1. Is there a good tutorial that I can use to do more research on Odin? I see there's a mobile version and a PC version, so I'm not sure which to use.
2. I see in some ROM's, the install instructions state to first flash a specific kernel with Odin. Is this to prevent bricks from flashing from ICS to ICS ROM's?
3. Hypothetically, if I wanted to switch from Blue Kuban to CM9 (or any other ICS ROM), couldn't I just restore my stock GB back up and then flash CM9 (or any other ICS ROM)? If not, what is the most user friendly method you use?
Thanks all, really glad I chose this phone, it looks like there's awesome development for it! Any help is greatly appreciated!
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1. OK for Odin, you can try searching for a tutorial on qbkings YouTube channel. Basically all you need to know is that the PDA slot is for kernels and such where as phone slot is for modems. Only have auto reboot checked in top right settings. Mobile Odin works the same way. You can flash kernels from there and can save you time and when you're away from a computer. It currently has problems flashing modems however. There is a paid and lite version which you can find here in xda if you search a bit.
2. Yes this is to prevent bricking which has been happening when wiping data/factory rest in custom recoveries repackaged in ICS kernels. This is why its recommended to go back to el26 because this is the last true source (we don't have ICS source yet) we had.
Whenever changing roms, you must Odin/mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and do any rom flashing, restoring, backing up from there. So if you want to switch to CM9 from the ICS version of Blue Kuban I'm assuming, Odin el26 cwm kernel and flash cm9+gapps there.
Anymore questions let me know
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Awesome, great info and I'll definitely pick up the mobile version. So it looks like I only need to flash the kernel, not actually flast a GB Rom?
The only other thing I'm wondering is if you recommend using the Rogue CWM Recovery. I have it installed right now. Are all ROMS compatible with this recovery?
Thanks again for your quick and helpful answer!
I personally use the rouge 1.4.1 kernel to do all my flashing. Rouge recovery is built from tweaking the cwm recovery. In essence, they are the same thing. Rouge has less "no's" and the menus are better organized, so I use it.
mjs2011 said:
Awesome, great info and I'll definitely pick up the mobile version. So it looks like I only need to flash the kernel, not actually flast a GB Rom?
The only other thing I'm wondering is if you recommend using the Rogue CWM Recovery. I have it installed right now. Are all ROMS compatible with this recovery?
Thanks again for your quick and helpful answer!
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Yea all you need is the kernel. If you're on an ICS rom when you flash the el26 cwm kernel, it won't boot your phone but you can go into recovery still.
I really wouldn't recommend any custom recovery at this time for ICS. I mean it takes maybe an extra minute odining the el26 cwm kernel or so instead of directly booting into rogue recovery. From there you can flash mods, tweaks, etc and then just reflash a compatible ICS kernel. What do you really need rogue for? Not worth the risk IMO.
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Yea all you need is the kernel. If you're on an ICS rom when you flash the el26 cwm kernel, it won't boot your phone but you can go into recovery still.
I really wouldn't recommend any custom recovery at this time for ICS. I mean it takes maybe an extra minute odining the el26 cwm kernel or so instead of directly booting into rogue recovery. From there you can flash mods, tweaks, etc and then just reflash a compatible ICS kernel. What do you really need rogue for? Not worth the risk IMO.
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Interesting. I'll have to read up more regarding Odin. So I could literally open Odin and plug my phone in and then flash the el26 kernel and flash whatever ROM I want from Odin as well? Sorry, a little confused there. Just not sure how I'd flash a ROM without a custom recovery.
Thanks again, I'll also check out some tutorials. I'm guessing it will feel like 2nd nature in a week, just learning the new process.
The recovery is built into the kernel for this device. I use odin, flash the el29 rouge kernel v1.4.1, when the phone resets after the flash, boot into recover using volume up and power, wipe, flash, whatever you want, make sure you reinstall ics rom or kernel if you are on ics and reboot.
Ah, so if I flash the EL26 Kernel, will that overwrite my Rogue Recovery?
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Interesting. I'll have to read up more regarding Odin. So I could literally open Odin and plug my phone in and then flash the el26 kernel and flash whatever ROM I want from Odin as well? Sorry, a little confused there. Just not sure how I'd flash a ROM without a custom recovery.
Thanks again, I'll also check out some tutorials. I'm guessing it will feel like 2nd nature in a week, just learning the new process.
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Well download whatever rom+mods/etc and put the files on your phone. Then just odin/mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and flash whatever you want from there, ICS or GB without no chance of a brick.
On our phone and I think most Samsung's for that matter, the recovery isnt separate from any other partition like with HTC. It must be packed into the kernel. So whenever you flash a rom, whatever recovery is packed in with that kernel included with the rom is what you're getting. Most devs are packing in stock Android recovery to cut down on bricks and instead recommend always flashing from el26 cwm kernel.
So yea that's what makes mobile Odin so great. Have el26 on your storage and you can switch roms very fast, easy, and safe.
Anymore questions just ask.
Edit: are you on GB or ICS Blue Kuban and what rogue also?
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Thanks, really good info. I'm on Blue Kuban ICS right now with Rogue CWM 5.0.2.7. Looks like Odin will be a very easy way once I get comfortable with it.
So basically, I'll put the kernel zip in the PDA slot in Odin and let it do its thing, then my phone will auto reboot into the kernel's recovery where I can flash the ROM? Or do I flash the kernel in Odin, and also flash the ROM in Odin as well?
mjs2011 said:
Thanks, really good info. I'm on Blue Kuban ICS right now with Rogue CWM 5.0.2.7. Looks like Odin will be a very easy way once I get comfortable with it.
So basically, I'll put the kernel zip in the PDA slot in Odin and let it do its thing, then my phone will auto reboot into the kernel's recovery where I can flash the ROM? Or do I flash the kernel in Odin, and also flash the ROM in Odin as well?
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Odin is just used to flash the safe el26 cwm kernel onto your phone. It will auto reboot and just hang at the Galaxy S II screen since the GB kernel can't boot an ICS rom so just power+volume up into it. Hold it for maybe up to 15 seconds but it'll come around. You then flash the rom in recovery from there. So put you rom files, etc on your phone before you Odin the kernel.
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Odin is just used to flash the safe el26 cwm kernel onto your phone. It will auto reboot and just hang at the Galaxy S II screen since the GB kernel can't boot an ICS rom so just power+volume up into it. Hold it for maybe up to 15 seconds but it'll come around. You then flash the rom in recovery from there. So put you rom files, etc on your phone before you Odin the kernel.
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oh ok sweet. That sounds pretty easy, actually! LOL! One last question hopefully, do I need to extract the kernel zip or do I just place the zip in the PDA slot?
Thanks again for your help today. It really cleared a bunch of questions I had.
mjs2011 said:
oh ok sweet. That sounds pretty easy, actually! LOL! One last question hopefully, do I need to extract the kernel zip or do I just place the zip in the PDA slot?
Thanks again for your help today. It really cleared a bunch of questions I had.
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Kernels flashed through PDA slot in Odin will be in either .tar or tar.md5 format, .zips are for cwm recovery only. You can find the el26 cwm kernel in the kernel repository sticky in dev section, its the first kernel listed. No problem, glad to help.
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or u can use the 34gt auto
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Thanks again everyone. I successfully switched roms today with no issues.
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Well new company gave me 20% Sprint discount and have become sick of my Tmobiles poor coverage. However I fear wimax might be sucky too here in Seattle. Anyway, long time member here and have been involved in the HTC Sensation and One forums. Both with very very stable roms and kernals.
I was excited to pick up a couple Sprint Galaxy epics and the guy at Sprint had his all rooted and claimed it was smoking fast.
However I came to this forum and see all kinds of complaints of loss of stability just from simple Root of the Epic? Also have not read any stable ICS roms and I have read all of the threads. Plus read this phone is very easy to brick under clockwork. With sensation we use Aroma and it rocks!
So before I move on, I am not looking to break rules on asking ROM questions. I simply would like some input on what ICS rom is stable and supported still as I see many devs have moved on the the sg3 here.
What kernal and radio or what you call modem is stable and how do you find what is for your phone match?
Lastly, what is safest way to ROOT and flash ROMS for this phone?
I did read the stickies but am still confused.
I may be just happy at first to simply ROOT and install the fix for Hot Spot Wi fi and go from there.
Thanks so much.
Not even sure if phones will arrive with stock ICS tomorrow or GB...
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The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
rovar said:
The SAFEST way to flash stock ROMs in case of emergency is using Odin.I've found both stock ROMs (GB & ICS) very stable, however I reboot my phone everyother day (windows habit).
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495 was my starting point.
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First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
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First off thank you for your reply. Interesting, I have read ODIn maybe responsible for bricking many of these phones is that incorrect? Lots of what I found seeing the people are very unstable with the custom roms so far for ICS for this phone of course stock ICS will be here soon.is there the ability to just root the phone and leave the stock ics ROM and just run the sprint hot spot mod.
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Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
And here is your hotspot hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760712
Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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Odin never causes any bricks as long as the process is not interrupted. Most of the instability is caused by user error. From my experience, all fresh (by fresh I mean wipe data/cache and format system) custom ROM installs have been rock solid stable. Also, most network issues are fixed by updating profile/prl. Official ICS is already out, it is build FF18. Stock ICS will not normally have the hotspot mod. You will have to use a hack to install it yourself. If you want a stock ICS experience, use this odin package (reset user data) to odin your phone to pre-rooted FF18:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
And here is your hotspot hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760712
Nonetheless, I see no reason why you wouldn't just save yourself the time and flash a custom ICS ROM.
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Thanks, I think we are on the same page with this!
So I just loaded the FF18 Full Restore and Samsung drivers as indicated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
I also tested after unzipping to a folder and the ODEN program comes up waiting for me to hook up phone I dont have yet till tomorrow.
I also watched this video and it seems very easy to do if this is correct process,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IL21F8Gfbs
Still some clarifying questions,
1. If my new phone comes with ICS already pushed to it. Do I simply still install FF18 to get root for the ICS rom?
2. If phone does not come with ICS will this install ICS and Root?
3. Do I need to use this or Caulkins to wipe data first before I do this process on phone out of the box new?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
Also I am little nervous reading this post from SFHUB<, Is he saying not to do the above process thru the built in Odin recovery in the phone if it comes with stock ICS in it? What does this mean???
The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!!
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!!
- Currently there are some ICS recoveries that are thought to be safe to flash from thanks to the work done on the emmc bug. If one of these is included in your rom it will be noted by the dev in the rom thread, however the safest way is still just to Odin back to el26 in order to avoid any chance of bricking!
Next, once I do this FF!8 and have root and ICS. If I want to dabble in custom roms. I am guessing they are installed by CWM from file downloaded to root of SD card like normal. I do not find CWM touch for this phone anywhere. I am sure I am missing it. It seems from reading the exploit in ICS kernal is causing the bricks. So I am guessing to use SF hubs or Claukins data wipe before loading custom roms. Are we beating to the same drum here?
Will correct radio or modem be installed automtic with FF18 or custom roms? I see many threads just on modems.
Thanks and thanks for the hot spot mod.
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Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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Thats what it seems from hours reading each ROM thread. Reminds me of the Sensation when GB and or ICS first leaked. Will most likely just root stock and go from there.
CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.
For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.
If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
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CWM is in the kernel. Current kernels such as chris41g's or AGAT's kernels have patched up recoveries that avoid the emmc bug, so they are completely safe. You should use calkulins format all before flashing a rom in CWM.
For odin, it wouldn't hurt to odin sfhubs wipe data/cache, but it's not necessary. As long as you use the reset user data odin package for FF18, it will take you to stock rooted FF18. Regardless of what rom your phone comes with, run that odin package. You don't need to worry about the modem either because it will install the latest one. Be sure to update your profile/prl in settings>about>system updates after.
If you want to try a custom rom, use odin to flash a kernel with cwm (agat's or chris41g's). Once you have a recovery, flash calkulins format all, and then the ROM of your choice. Modems are not installed through CWM rom zips. You'll have to flash a modem zip in recovery or odin a modem tar.
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I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?
Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?
So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.
Thanks your help has been great!
iceshark said:
I was studying Sfhugs FF18 thread and it says I can do the one click root and then install option D and that puts in the FF18, with agats CWM. So is this more simple then flashing FF18 and then doing a flash for either chris or agat kernal with cwm?
Should I use Calkulins format before flashing FF18 from stock?
So when you guys flash new custom roms you have to flash current modem each time? or only if you want to have a more current one? Coming from HTC you only have to flash radio when its required to match a new base leaked. So little confused there too.
Thanks your help has been great!
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I know I personally use Mijjahz's "GOODNESS" ROM and it runs smooth. Many mods and add ons with more added daily. I flashed agat's 2.2 kernel because I don't like the 2.3 that version 16.6.1 comes with.
I also flashed FF18 over my EL26 modem. Modems don't change between flashing I believe. Those you update yourself. A lot of folks stay on EL29 or find something that works perfectly in their area.
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optimummind said:
Imho, there isn't any ics custom rom as of yet that is 100% stable, glitch-free, and reliable. I would wait it out until more polished versions come out. If there is a pretty good one to try, i'd say the blu kuban.
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not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
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cp320703 said:
not sure what you expect from a mobile os but I couldn't disagree more.... my experance on mijjahs goodness has been better and more stable than stock in every way, hell even cm9 and aokp are extremely reliable as well if you can live without dialer codes and prl/profile updates.... no software is ever going to be 100%.... I say flash away, you won't be dissapointed
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QFT.
ICS ROMs are very stable at this point.
iceshark said:
Thanks, I think we are on the same page with this!
So I just loaded the FF18 Full Restore and Samsung drivers as indicated in this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
I also tested after unzipping to a folder and the ODEN program comes up waiting for me to hook up phone I dont have yet till tomorrow.
I also watched this video and it seems very easy to do if this is correct process,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IL21F8Gfbs
Still some clarifying questions,
1. If my new phone comes with ICS already pushed to it. Do I simply still install FF18 to get root for the ICS rom?
2. If phone does not come with ICS will this install ICS and Root?
3. Do I need to use this or Caulkins to wipe data first before I do this process on phone out of the box new?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670110
Also I am little nervous reading this post from SFHUB<, Is he saying not to do the above process thru the built in Odin recovery in the phone if it comes with stock ICS in it? What does this mean???
The Epic 4g Touch has a bug in it's emmc controller that can cause the /data partition to become inaccessible/unrecoverable sometimes thanks to the wipe process when flashing from ICS recoveries... DO NOT FLASH FROM ICS RECOVERIES!!!!
7/11/12 edit: In the FF18 source Garwynn has confirmed the presence of the offending code that triggers the emmc bug (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=32) meaning that it will eventually be safe to flash from ICS as long as the offending code is removed by the dev of the kernel/rom...
- Please see this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1525495) thread by xST4T1K which details how NOT to brick your device... It is slightly out of date but still very relevant... if you want a more technical understanding of what this emmc bug is and why this is happening you can see Sfhub's thread in general related to it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1644364 ). The OP contains all of the information that our users have been able to figure out about this bug... Be sure to thank these people, as their hard work has made it exponentially safer for all of us to flash ICS roms on our phones...
-Every ICS rom will have a flashing guide in it's dev thread, its HIGHLY suggested you read and reread the guide for the rom you want to flash and follow it EXACTLY, taking the extra time upfront to fully understand what you're about to do will save you alot of trouble going forward.
-Put simply though you will always want to ODIN or Mobile ODIN (mobile Odin is an app made by the dev chainfire, available in the play store, that allows you to preform Odin flashes from your phone without using a PC) the el26 Gingerbread kernel/recovery and flash any ICS roms from that. NEVER FLASH FROM AN ICS RECOVERY, THAT IS HOW BRICKS ARE MADE!!!! Also do NOT use Rom Manager or Touch recovery!!!!
- Currently there are some ICS recoveries that are thought to be safe to flash from thanks to the work done on the emmc bug. If one of these is included in your rom it will be noted by the dev in the rom thread, however the safest way is still just to Odin back to el26 in order to avoid any chance of bricking!
Next, once I do this FF!8 and have root and ICS. If I want to dabble in custom roms. I am guessing they are installed by CWM from file downloaded to root of SD card like normal. I do not find CWM touch for this phone anywhere. I am sure I am missing it. It seems from reading the exploit in ICS kernal is causing the bricks. So I am guessing to use SF hubs or Claukins data wipe before loading custom roms. Are we beating to the same drum here?
Will correct radio or modem be installed automtic with FF18 or custom roms? I see many threads just on modems.
Thanks and thanks for the hot spot mod.
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you're quoting some of my new user guide here, and i haven't updated it since the OTA came out so it somewhat overstates the danger of bricking (not a bad thing really, made you read, didn't it!?) which was much easir to do before we got kernel source, since then agat63 and chris41g have been killin it in kernel development since they got ICS source... their ICS kernels are safe to flash from and can be found in the dev section, if you're on the stock FF18 rooted with stock kernel i would personally ODIN (mobile or desktop) back to EL26, and from there flash whatever custom ICS rom you like, as far as I'm aware all of the roms come with a safe kernel these days but do be sure to double check and flash one if it does not... at that point going forward should you wish to flash something else you can just do it via cwm as per usual without having to odin back to gingerbread....do note however that you can't use touchwiz kernels with AOSP roms, there asr safe AOSP kernels as well however...
edit: oops, just noticed revamper addressed most of this on the last page, to answer another one of your questions though you can try as many modems as you like and decide which one works best for you, its varies phone to phone and area to area... the modem is not at all required to match the build number of the rom, (example: may people still use the el29 modem with ICS) you can use ANY modem with ANY rom
Ive flashed this phone hundreds of times. Put your rom and any other zips you have on external card. Then to do a full clean wipe go to privacy. then factory data reset then check usb storage. You can skip this step, but this is how to get it factory fresh. Download the el26 cwm kenal. Its posted everywhere. Next open Odin go to pda and select EL26 cwm kernal. Uncheck auto reboot. Have battery cover off! Flash kernal pop battery out when it starts to boot. or says pass. then use the vol up and power combo hold them down until boot screen pops up then let off. Next flash calkulins wipe all or wipe no data. . Never brick never fail. Then flash your rom and tweaks and be happy. Ive done this driving down the road its that easy. Laptop sitting in passenger seat with odin up lol. Plus i drive a 5sp full size truck. Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob. I,ll be making multi scenario flashing youtube movies soon. Like mobile tech videos does.
Flashing is easy. Follow directions. There is nothing wrong with this phone just read directions if your a noob.
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That's all there is to say.
Back around may i flashed my gf's gs2 to ics akop and it was an ordeal with odin and recovery and whatnot. At the time my friend had one too and helped walk me through it, but hes moved onto the gs3. Im used to htcs where i just need to flash a recovery and rom and im good to go, and i see some talk of safe recovery so it looks like things have gotten better. Shes having all kinds of problems with this akop build and id like to get her on something new, hopefully something cm10 based, but have no idea what all that entails. It looks like her kernel is fe07, if someone could let me know what i need to do to get her on a better rom id greatly appreciate it
Us in mobile Odin or desktop Odin to flash a kernel. I would highly recommend el26+cwm5 its a kernel with recovery built in because that's how our phone does the recovery. After you have el26 kernel installed it won't boot. Its OK. This just means you have an ics rom trying to use a gb kernel. Just push and hold both the power button and volume up until you get in recovery. This is the safest kernel to flash from. Then once in recovery go ahead and flash your cm10.
Things you will need.
1. el26kernel with cwm5.
2. Rom you want to flash.
3. Either mobile Odin by chain fire or desktop Odin with drivers already installed.
4. Calkulins format all.zip is highly recommended to use so you don't have traces of hour last rom messing things up.
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Thanks for the detail. So with having a gb kernel whats going to allow it to boot once i install cm10? Once cm is installed, do i have to go through that whole process again to flash another rom if i want?
kellybrf said:
Thanks for the detail. So with having a gb kernel whats going to allow it to boot once i install cm10? Once cm is installed, do i have to go through that whole process again to flash another rom if i want?
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Cm10 should have a safe recovery, but you can if you want to be doubly sure. When you install cm it will have the jb kernel with it so all you have to do is rom gapps and boot. Highly recommend mobile Odin for going to el26 recovery because it makes it soo much faster and easier.
When you flash a rom from that el26 kernel, it will be overwritten. The kernel is packed into the rom. So by flashing cm10 you will now have a new kernel.
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I have flashed a calkulin TW Rom on my girls phone a long while ago, it is android 2.3. She has been asking me to flash an ICS Rom on her phone or even JB if everything works. I just started reading around on here and it seems to have gotten very confusing with all of this kernel talk and everything. Can someone tell me if I can flash a updated kernel while still on this old Rom, and then backup this android 2.3 Rom, then flash an ICS or JB Rom? I need to knkw if she doesn't like the new Rom, will I be able to restore the old 2.3 Rom with this new kernel and recovery. Can someone explain this to me, or point me to the best thread to learn about this phone again. I'm used to HTC devices and they seem way less confusing than this phone. Thanks in advance.
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almony8 said:
I have flashed a calkulin TW Rom on my girls phone a long while ago, it is android 2.3. She has been asking me to flash an ICS Rom on her phone or even JB if everything works. I just started reading around on here and it seems to have gotten very confusing with all of this kernel talk and everything. Can someone tell me if I can flash a updated kernel while still on this old Rom, and then backup this android 2.3 Rom, then flash an ICS or JB Rom? I need to knkw if she doesn't like the new Rom, will I be able to restore the old 2.3 Rom with this new kernel and recovery. Can someone explain this to me, or point me to the best thread to learn about this phone again. I'm used to HTC devices and they seem way less confusing than this phone. Thanks in advance.
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An updated kernel? If you mean ICS or JB kernel you cant do that.. You can only use gingerbread kernels with gingerbread.. Now if you want to try some JB / ICS
Just make a back up of what you have... Grab your rom of choice
Wipe everything(its safe since your on GB), and flash your ICS/JB rom (kernels are included with these roms so no worries)
Now when you want to restore just go back into the recovery of your rom(whatever you flashed) and restore the calk rom.. It will be just like you left it
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
Ok, thanks for the extremely quick reply. I have also seen things about unsafe recoverys or something of the sort. I'm on a very old recovery on her phone. What would you suggest I update the recovery to before I do this? I believe it has the cwm rogue recovery on it now if I remember right. Thanks again.
almony8 said:
Ok, thanks for the extremely quick reply. I have also seen things about unsafe recoverys or something of the sort. I'm on a very old recovery on her phone. What would you suggest I update the recovery to before I do this? I believe it has the cwm rogue recovery on it now if I remember right. Thanks again.
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If you are familiar with odin or mobile Odin.. I'd odin /mobile Odin the El26 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295.. Unless you are on el26 now? It been a minute since I been on GB
But ICS kernels are now safe (agats, kuban kernel) to flash from and restore your back up to GB
JB kernels are safe as well to restore your back ups /flash from
I never *flashed from a jb kernel tho.. I always play safe and mobile Odin el26 before flashing from a JB kernel
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Just go to the Android development forum (not original development) there's a sticky there called kernel repository find any gingerbread kernel and as long as it's not rouge recovery you'll be able to backup her current ROM and flash any new one you want. I say avoid rouge because seems a lot of people myself included couldn't flash roms from rouge. And if you want to do jellybean sbrissen's kernel/recovery is safe to flash back any ROM as well. I did it last week
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