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Some basic info might save me a brick right now...

Ok im confused heck about this flashing stuff. I have a S2 I rooted, and flashed... using zerg oneclick.. didnt flash my counter.... and I flashed tons of times
How come on this phone It will ding my flash counter? Isn't there some way to not ? Also I read a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35165945&postcount=1610
I just need to understand..
So what trips the flash counter? Every fash trips the counter?
I need my warrenty so I need make sure whatever I do I don't flash the counter... beside that thread about are there any other roms that won't tip my counter? BTW im on ICS still im about get JB but im holding off to see if being on ICS means I can flash with out tripping my counter someone explain this in noobie for me

Hate to tell you, but you are in the Att Galaxy S3 forum.

xxsicknessxx said:
Ok im confused heck about this flashing stuff. I have a S2 I rooted, and flashed... using zerg oneclick.. didnt flash my counter.... and I flashed tons of times
How come on this phone It will ding my flash counter? Isn't there some way to not ? Also I read a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35165945&postcount=1610
I just need to understand
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I have NEVER used 1-touch. Follow the instructions you found in the link you provided, and you'll be just fine.
Edit: as long as you're on the ATT GSIII
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I have a s2 rooted but I own a S3
Look im on ICS right now from the store (just got my phone) I want to root it and install a custom rom.... now my question is
Because I don't have JB yet I won't flash my counter right? Question is I can easly choose to flash stock firm ware again later on and reinstall the offical JB rom right? The one from the KIES and samsung,..
So once again... Im on ICS offical.... I want a custom ICS rom.... im ok ? no flash counter? I choose to go back to stock and go forward with JB im still ok no flash counter?
Alright.... but if I flash a JB ROM It will flash right? and it keeps flashing the counter every time I flash
Im a bad type try answer my question if you can please.
I am a person who may need his warrenty some day

xxsicknessxx said:
Because I don't have JB yet I won't flash my counter right?
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You will trip the flash counter if you use Odin to flash something other than a stock (untouched or properly rooted) image.
xxsicknessxx said:
Question is I can easly choose to flash stock firm ware again later on and reinstall the offical JB rom right? The one from the KIES and samsung,..
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Yes - see here for completely stock images you can use for that, or here for pre-rooted stock images.
xxsicknessxx said:
So once again... Im on ICS offical.... I want a custom ICS rom.... im ok ? no flash counter? I choose to go back to stock and go forward with JB im still ok no flash counter?
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Well, to reach the point of having a custom ROM image without having tripped the flash counter, you'll need to go through the root process listed in the second of those links I indicated above so that you can install a custom recovery through which you can install those ROM images.
xxsicknessxx said:
Alright.... but if I flash a JB ROM It will flash right? and it keeps flashing the counter every time I flash
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Just remember - if you're using Odin and you don't want to trip the flash counter, don't flash anything other than stock images. You should be okay then.

Also, keep in mind there is an app called Triangle Away which works for the GS3. Triangle Away can completely reset the flash counter.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/triangleaway-reset-flash-counter-tool/

I have a question about the flash counter.

I rooted my phone without stripping the flash counter and recovery by goomanager and i checked and it was still 0.
We after i have only flash roms and newest twrp updates from goomanager. today I was trying to boot to recovery and messed up and booted to download mode. So since I was already there I went to check my flash encounter and it was set to 1. Witch it made me wonder how it got there if I havent used odin, only to root without stripping the flash encounter.
So by flashing roms etc via recovery can stripped the counter?
Not that it bothers me but just a thought

On the later stock firmwares, the bootloader was changed so that your counter will always show 1 if you are using a custom recovery.
TriangleAway will clear it, but as soon as you reboot, it will be back.
No worries.

Aerowinder said:
On the later stock firmwares, the bootloader was changed so that your counter will always show 1 if you are using a custom recovery.
TriangleAway will clear it, but as soon as you reboot, it will be back.
No worries.
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So as long i have a custom recovery it will be 1 even after TriangleAway reset and reboot. With stock recovery it will stay at 0 right?

I know that to be the case with UVDLJC. Unsure of when that started though.
Flash counter is irrelevant.

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gypsy214 said:
So as long i have a custom recovery it will be 1 even after TriangleAway reset and reboot. With stock recovery it will stay at 0 right?
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If you ever want the counter to remain a "0" just odin flash a Tmobile Jellybean v4.1.1 stock or a stock-rooted rom.
After doing that use the triangleAway and the flash counter will remain at 0 unless
you flash a custom rom which is not based on a Tmobile T999 Jellybean v4.1.1 rom.
If you want the stock-rooted Tmobile Jellybean v4.1.1 rom here is the link: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390169635556426451
Flashing CWM or TWRP recovery has no effect on the flash counter, it will not change it one way or another.
Rooting has no effect on the flash counter either.

Misterjunky said:
If you ever want the counter to remain a "0" just odin flash a Tmobile Jellybean v4.1.1 stock or a stock-rooted rom.
After doing that use the triangleAway and the flash counter will remain at 0 unless
you flash a custom rom which is not based on a Tmobile T999 Jellybean v4.1.1 rom.
If you want the stock-rooted Tmobile Jellybean v4.1.1 rom here is the link: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390169635556426451
Flashing CWM or TWRP recovery has no effect on the flash counter, it will not change it one way or another.
Rooting has no effect on the flash counter either.
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This is incorrect.. Check your resources bro..
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

LuigiBull23 said:
This is incorrect.. Check your resources bro..
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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Indeed it is. I think I understand what he meant (not what he said). But it's still incorrect. What I said is tested and researched by me personally.

Triangle Away

Do you need to use triangle away when you first root your phone? Or can you just use it when you need to return the phone back to stock? I want to root and if I need to return my phone for warranty I want to be able to put the phone back to stock with 0 flash counter.

later not needed right away

hold on but.....
dpshptl said:
Do you need to use triangle away when you first root your phone? Or can you just use it when you need to return the phone back to stock? I want to root and if I need to return my phone for warranty I want to be able to put the phone back to stock with 0 flash counter.
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U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:

Mr_Jay_jay said:
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
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This is not even close to the truth.

Aerowinder said:
This is not even close to the truth.
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and u say this because? I mean I'm just talking on my experience with triangle away and JB It didn't work, I would use it and it would reset but once I restarted the counter would go back to "1" and honestly I'm not the only one, so please if u know the rite answer please explain, just calling me a liar is not helping anyone at all.

Mr_Jay_jay said:
and u say this because? I mean I'm just talking on my experience with triangle away and JB It didn't work, I would use it and it would reset but once I restarted the counter would go back to "1" and honestly I'm not the only one, so please if u know the rite answer please explain, just calling me a liar is not helping anyone at all.
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I'm not calling you a liar. I simply stated that your post was not factually accurate. TriangleAway does indeed work as intended on even the new MD5.
Using a custom recovery will cause your flash counter to trip on newer JB builds. This may be what you meant, but the issue is not related to TA. It's a bootloader "feature". You can witness this yourself by resetting the flash counter, then rebooting into download mode. Count will be 0.

Aerowinder said:
I'm not calling you a liar. I simply stated that your post was not factually accurate. TriangleAway does indeed work as intended on even the new MD5.
Using a custom recovery will cause your flash counter to trip on newer JB builds. This may be what you meant, but the issue is not related to TA. It's a bootloader "feature". You can witness this yourself by resetting the flash counter, then rebooting into download mode. Count will be 0.
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So what u're saying is that my custom recovery is to blamed? I can say that statement is partially true. Wait.. u think I havent tried to reset my counter while on JB before?? I'm telling it didn't work why don't you go head and try to reset your counter and show that it did work.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpL46-Zd0A&feature=youtu.be

Mr_Jay_jay said:
So what u're saying is that my custom recovery is to blamed? I can say that statement is partially true. Wait.. u think I havent tried to reset my counter while on JB before?? I'm telling it didn't work why don't you go head and try to reset your counter and show that it did work.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpL46-Zd0A&feature=youtu.be
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He's correct. Having a custom recovery will always trip the flash counter to 1 after every subsequent reboot. If you use Ta and reboot, you'll see 0. But the next time you reboot and don't use Ta you will see 1. It doesn't matter what ROM you run or how you've rooted in the end, the custom binary (TWRP / CWM) will Always trip the counter.
That being said if you don't want to continously trip the counter you're going to need to go back to stock recovery.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

TheLastSidekick said:
He's correct. Having a custom recovery will always trip the flash counter to 1 after every subsequent reboot. If you use Ta and reboot, you'll see 0. But the next time you reboot and don't use Ta you will see 1. It doesn't matter what ROM you run or how you've rooted in the end, the custom binary (TWRP / CWM) will Always trip the counter.
That being said if you don't want to continously trip the counter you're going to need to go back to stock recovery.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
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I do Agree with his statment, however while I was on any ICS rom even with custom recovery, TA would work even after a reboot, so my counter would stay at "0" it wasnt after I upgraded to JB when the TA would reset after reboot. I will upload a video of doing TA on ICS and everything just to prove I'm not just arguing just because. but it will have to wait til l8er tonite.

Mr_Jay_jay said:
I do Agree with his statment, however while I was on any ICS rom even with custom recovery, TA would work even after a reboot, so my counter would stay at "0" it wasnt after I upgraded to JB when the TA would reset after reboot. I will upload a video of doing TA on ICS and everything just to prove I'm not just arguing just because. but it will have to wait til l8er tonite.
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There is no need for a video. I understand what you are saying, and I'm telling you, it's because of the bootloader. Not TriangleAway.

I am on 4.1.1 and TA 2.90 works FINE, the Counter shows "0" after a bunch of reboots, and "Allow tracker to run" is checked...
The ONLY time the counter trips is when/if I boot into the recovery or downloader modes.
I guess some structure of the setup makes a difference. I am using Root66 SGHT999 Build JR003L.T999UVDLJA with a T999UVDMD5 Baseband

bobolinko said:
I am on 4.1.1 and TA 2.90 works FINE, the Counter shows "0" after a bunch of reboots, and "Allow tracker to run" is checked...
The ONLY time the counter trips is when/if I boot into the recovery or downloader modes.
I guess some structure of the setup makes a difference. I am using Root66 SGHT999 Build JR003L.T999UVDLJA with a T999UVDMD5 Baseband
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kool. maybe that's a good workaround. thanks. but in my case still won't work.. but then again i'm 4.1.2. thanks!

Mr_Jay_jay said:
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
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You can avoid using Odin and flash old firmware (excluding system / kernel) directly via heimdall or dd (which can be nicely bundled into an update.zip), avoiding the whole mess of needing Odin/Windows and having to backup+restore your system.
I think I'll make an update.zip just to flash the oldest firmware onto our phones -- I just made one that flashes the latest UVDMD5 firmware. The ROM shouldn't make a difference as far as trying to clear the flash counter really, it's the firmware that would be blocking that.
Also, flashing ROMs through CWM Recovery (and probably other custom ones) avoids tripping the flash counter. If you can root your ROM and dd the recovery directly to your eMMC, it avoids tripping the flash counter. Then you can use CWM Recovery to flash things without tripping the counter as well.
Remember, these are just computers with Linux + kernel modifications + custom Java VM running on them, essentially. It's good to become comfortable with UNIX commands like dd.

mnasledov said:
Also, flashing ROMs through CWM Recovery (and probably other custom ones) avoids tripping the flash counter. If you can root your ROM and dd the recovery directly to your eMMC, it avoids tripping the flash counter. Then you can use CWM Recovery to flash things without tripping the counter as well.
Remember, these are just computers with Linux + kernel modifications + custom Java VM running on them, essentially. It's good to become comfortable with UNIX commands like dd.
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I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1

bobolinko said:
I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
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Really? I mean I'm no authority on this, so I could be wrong but I based this off my findings last night. I was in Download mode quite a few times and got to see my Flash Counter which was at 3. I've gone into recovery dozens if not hundreds of times by now on this device as well as flashed dozens and dozens of things ...
Even if it was just an 8-bit counter that overflowed, I'd need to have flashed over 256 things which I don't think I've reached yet and it would be totally silly if Samsung made the counter so easy to defeat that an 8-bit numeric overflow would bring it back to 0.
Can anyone else chime/weigh in? I'm curious now. I heard that using dd is supposed to avoid the flash counter. As a software engineer, I'd think there has to be some hook to trip that counter and that hook would belong to whatever firmware is on the phone for flashing (i.e. the stock recovery) and that if any other software gains control of the phone, all bets are off.

bobolinko said:
I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
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I don't know who told you all of that or where you read it but you are wrong.
The only things that trip the flash counter is when you flash a custom rom or a custom kernel.
Simply booting into stock or custom recovery will not trip the flash counter at all.
Think about it, that's why it's called a FLASH counter, it counts the number of rom and kernel flashes. LOL

Misterjunky said:
I don't know who told you all of that or where you read it but you are wrong.
The only things that trip the flash counter is when you flash a custom rom or a custom kernel.
Simply booting into stock or custom recovery will not trip the flash counter at all.
Think about it, that's why it's called a FLASH counter, it counts the number of rom and kernel flashes. LOL
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It trips whenever I boot into TWRP though. Maybe some phones are different?
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re: unlocked?
TheLastSidekick said:
It trips whenever I boot into TWRP though. Maybe some phones are different?
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Perhaps since I have an unlocked phone it might make a difference?
I have a Galaxy S3 AT&T I747 Unlocked phone and am using it with Tmobile service.

That makes sense actually lol as it says I have an SGH-T999 and mine isn't unlocked. Probably the model of the phone acts slightly differently with Ta and recoveries.
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In my case My counter won't move from "1" no matter what I do, Restart to download or Recovery ( TWRP), or flash a new rom which I do alot, only way it goes from 1 to "2" is when I do something to my phone and I need to odin back to stock and re root(which I did for research) ... it's then it gets trigger again.

[Q] Q| before updating to 4.3

hi guys , this is my first post so bare with me ...
first of all i would love to say thanks to this community , i have learned a lot trough out the years iv'e been reeding this forum....
i have a question before i update my note 2 from 4.1.2 to 4.3 ...
i rooted it with cf root a long time ago , should i unroot my phone before updating to the official 4.3 ?
also my counter is 1 , should i use triangle away and reset it to 0, or it doesn't matter?
and which odin should i use (link would be useful) 1.85 or 3.07?
one last question , is it normal to see in the recovery mode an android lying on the floor with a red triangle ?
sorry if my English is quite bad ... its not my main language

hi , i dont like spamming but my thread went way down bump

DinaSap said:
hi , i dont like spamming but my thread went way down bump
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If you can avoid upgrading to official 4.3 it would best to do that,cause if you upgrade to 4.3 you'll be on knox bootloader which means you can never downgrade back to 4.1.2.So in my suggestion flash any 4.3 Custom ROM,you might not have wifi working once you flash the ROM,you need to download the MJ5 bootloader ,it's the last known bootloader which is KNOX free and you can use it to flash 4.3 TW,4.4 AOSP and 4.4.2 TW leaked rom.I can link you to the MJ5 bootloader and how to flash it once you choose the custom 4.3 ROMS.As far as 4.3 custom roms there are many out there and it wouldn't be fair to compare which is best cause all the developers have worked hard to make their ROM stand out so try 2-3 different 4.3 ROMS for a week and see which suits your needs and usage.Also each ROM thread has an FAQ thread so read that carefully with flashing instructions or if you'd need any additional files to be sideloaded along with the ROM ZIP.If you have any doubts don't forget to use the search option thread in each ROM thread you'll most likely have your questions answered.Since you are already rooted you don't need to re root but odin V3.07 is needed to flash the MJ5 bootloader.Below are the links to both files along with instructions how to flash MJ5 bootloader.Also on 4.1.2 before you proceed to 4.3 make a backup of your STOCK ROM along with EFS folder.
MJ5 Bootloader
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singhpratik87 said:
If you can avoid upgrading to official 4.3 it would best to do that,cause if you upgrade to 4.3 you'll be on knox bootloader which means you can never downgrade back to 4.1.2.So in my suggestion flash any 4.3 Custom ROM,you might not have wifi working once you flash the ROM,you need to download the MJ5 bootloader ,it's the last known bootloader which is KNOX free and you can use it to flash 4.3 TW,4.4 AOSP and 4.4.2 TW leaked rom.I can link you to the MJ5 bootloader and how to flash it once you choose the custom 4.3 ROMS.As far as 4.3 custom roms there are many out there and it wouldn't be fair to compare which is best cause all the developers have worked hard to make their ROM stand out so try 2-3 different 4.3 ROMS for a week and see which suits your needs and usage.Also each ROM thread has an FAQ thread so read that carefully with flashing instructions or if you'd need any additional files to be sideloaded along with the ROM ZIP.If you have any doubts don't forget to use the search option thread in each ROM thread you'll most likely have your questions answered.Since you are already rooted you don't need to re root but odin V3.07 is needed to flash the MJ5 bootloader.Below are the links to both files along with instructions how to flash MJ5 bootloader.Also on 4.1.2 before you proceed to 4.3 make a backup of your STOCK ROM along with EFS folder.
MJ5 Bootloader
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hi ,first of all thanks for the replay ....
two questions :
1 . im aware that i won't be able to downgrade to 4.1.2 .... but why would i want to downgrade , after all you need 4.3 to be able to update to 4.4 soon,am i missing something ?
2. and if i would still prefer an official 4.3 rom , do i need to reset counter and unroot aswell ?
by the way, if my recovery has an android lying on his back with the belly open and a red triangle is it normal ?

DinaSap said:
hi ,first of all thanks for the replay ....
two questions :
1 . im aware that i won't be able to downgrade to 4.1.2 .... but why would i want to downgrade , after all you need 4.3 to be able to update to 4.4 soon,am i missing something ?
2. and if i would still prefer an official 4.3 rom , do i need to reset counter and unroot aswell ?
by the way, if my recovery has an android lying on his back with the belly open and a red triangle is it normal ?
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To answer you first unanswered question,if you don't want to downgrade ever then you can go ahead and download the official firware OTA or via sam mobile for your respective region.
Second question,apparently to unroot you need to download stock 4.1.2 of your country and flash it via odin that will unroot your phone and you'll be back on 4.1.2 stock then you can check for updates via phone or head over to sam mobile for stock 4.3 and flash it.
That red triangle in recovery means you are in stock recovery as far as i can tell
read this post as well. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1720z8/noob_friendlyguide_unroot_your_galaxy_note_2s3/
The thing is i never upgraded to official 4.3 and wont upgrade to official 4.4 i directly came from 4.1.2 STOCK,rooted it and been on custom ROM ever since.so you might want to google a bit more about how to unroot your 4.1.2 and reset the custom status and then download 4.3

singhpratik87 said:
To answer you first unanswered question,if you don't want to downgrade ever then you can go ahead and download the official firware OTA or via sam mobile for your respective region.
Second question,apparently to unroot you need to download stock 4.1.2 of your country and flash it via odin that will unroot your phone and you'll be back on 4.1.2 stock then you can check for updates via phone or head over to sam mobile for stock 4.3 and flash it.
That red triangle in recovery means you are in stock recovery as far as i can tell
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thanks again
uhm , does it matter if my flash counter is at 1 ? and insted of flashing again the rom could i use the full unroot from super su ?
sorry if im bothering you , its just that i don't want to screw up my phone .....

DinaSap said:
thanks again
uhm , does it matter if my flash counter is at 1 ? and insted of flashing again the rom could i use the full unroot from super su ?
sorry if im bothering you , its just that i don't want to screw up my phone .....
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READ THIS
Read this as well
the above two links will take care of your flash counter ,will reset it

singhpratik87 said:
READ THIS
Read this as well
the above two links will take care of your flash counter ,will reset it
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ill repeat my question incase i wasn't clear .... is it necessary to have the binary counter at 0 to update to 4.3 .
if i have my counter at one when i update, will it trigger knox?

DinaSap said:
ill repeat my question incase i wasn't clear .... is it necessary to have the binary counter at 0 to update to 4.3 .
if i have my counter at one when i update, will it trigger knox?
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after you are on stock 4.1.2, you need to reset flash counter via triangle away if you wish to update via OTA or ready to claim warranty..
Knox will be triggered after you upgrade to 4.3 and use odin to flash any files.

TWRP and the warranty counter

Hey guys I was wonderng if using this app will trip the counter to 1? Or are there other ways to install custom recovery that won't trip the counter?

far as i know any custom recovery. ie twrp, cwm, philz, will all trip counter. stock won't but any others will.

OvrDriVE said:
far as i know any custom recovery. ie twrp, cwm, philz, will all trip counter. stock won't but any others will.
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what's stock recovery? oh crap, is stuck recovery available all the time? Like if you messsed up bad on a ROM flash, you can go into stock recovery and restore your system?
Or is that only possible through custom recovery?

the one that comes installed on the phone. i'm not sure if using the twrp app will trip it if you use it to install a custom rom but i do know if you install any recovery other then the stock recovery it will trip it
custom is required to fix a bad flash. it can't be done from stock recovery

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the one that comes installed on the phone. i'm not sure if using the twrp app will trip it if you use it to install a custom rom but i do know if you install any recovery other then the stock recovery it will trip it
custom is required to fix a bad flash. it can't be done from stock recovery
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even if that flash doesn't replace/affect original BL?

edo101 said:
even if that flash doesn't replace/affect original BL?
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what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.

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what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.
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yeah I bought the phone used heavily on eBay, I guess I want to make it look like i never rooted it, in the future when I want to sell it or however much I can get it (phone is kinda beat up)
What I want to do is install Sky Note Air on my 4.1.2 BL without going to 4.3 BL (I hate that thing with all the stories I've heard). I wonder if I can flash Sky Air with TWRP or if I need Mobile Odin in order to do it without touching my BL?

edo101 said:
yeah I bought the phone used heavily on eBay, I guess I want to make it look like i never rooted it, in the future when I want to sell it or however much I can get it (phone is kinda beat up)
What I want to do is install Sky Note Air on my 4.1.2 BL without going to 4.3 BL (I hate that thing with all the stories I've heard). I wonder if I can flash Sky Air with TWRP or if I need Mobile Odin in order to do it without touching my BL?
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as long as the rom your trying to flash isn't a 4.3 rom you should be good on the counter. flash counter can be reset with triangle away and the warrenty counter only gets poped on 4.3 roms. 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 are fine. flash a custom recovery and flash any older rom and you should be fine

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as long as the rom your trying to flash isn't a 4.3 rom you should be good on the counter. flash counter can be reset with triangle away and the warrenty counter only gets poped on 4.3 roms. 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 are fine. flash a custom recovery and flash any older rom and you should be fine
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OH yeah the Sky Note Air is a 4.3 ROM I just want to put it on a 4.1.2 BL

not sure that'll work then

OvrDriVE said:
what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.
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what is the efs partition?

efs holds all your t-mobile settings. or at&t or whichever company you go through. backing it up is just a precautionary thing. you do it just in case it gets messed up so you can restore it
i found the program i mentioned works and can restore it from your backed up file so

Flashing almost any custom ROM will increment the flash counter on any GN2. If you have the Knox bootloader it will also pop the Knox warranty bit.
The flash counter can be reset by using triangle away. No biggie. Knox can't be reset at this time. I avoid doing anything that would install the 4.3 Knox enabled bootloader it at all possible. If I need to return to stock for whatever reason I simple flash MrRobinson's root66 ROM (stock plus root) and triangle away my flash counter clean then unroot my phone to stock. No way to tell I was not on official firmware with it.
TWRP is not an application. It is a custom recovery like CWM etc. It can functionally do anything the stock recovery can and more. You have to use a custom recovery to flash a custom ROM on the gn2 with very few exceptions.
Stock recovery can be restored via an Odin flash of root66 or the Sammy stock ROM. I usually do root66 so triangle away can clean up the counter and still have stock recovery so as to avoid incrementing the counter after clearing it.
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Coug76 said:
Flashing almost any custom ROM will increment the flash counter on any GN2. If you have the Knox bootloader it will also pop the Knox warranty bit.
The flash counter can be reset by using triangle away. No biggie. Knox can't be reset at this time. I avoid doing anything that would install the 4.3 Knox enabled bootloader it at all possible. If I need to return to stock for whatever reason I simple flash MrRobinson's root66 ROM (stock plus root) and triangle away my flash counter clean then unroot my phone to stock. No way to tell I was not on official firmware with it.
TWRP is not an application. It is a custom recovery like CWM etc. It can functionally do anything the stock recovery can and more. You have to use a custom recovery to flash a custom ROM on the gn2 with very few exceptions.
Stock recovery can be restored via an Odin flash of root66 or the Sammy stock ROM. I usually do root66 so triangle away can clean up the counter and still have stock recovery so as to avoid incrementing the counter after clearing it.
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Any tips as to why my 4G Modem is not working with the Sky Note 4.3 based ROM. Everything else is working except for the modem. I'm still on 4.1.2 BL it looks like (not sure how to check) but my mobile stuff is in tact. It just says mobile network state (disconnected) but all my phone info is correct. It even still has my MetroPCS/Tmo as my Network

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Any tips as to why my 4G Modem is not working with the Sky Note 4.3 based ROM. Everything else is working except for the modem. I'm still on 4.1.2 BL it looks like (not sure how to check) but my mobile stuff is in tact. It just says mobile network state (disconnected) but all my phone info is correct. It even still has my MetroPCS/Tmo as my Network
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Probably that your APN is wrong.
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Probably that your APN is wrong.
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You were right. I googled Metro APN and now its working. THANK YOU!!
Btw any chance you know how to change my phone to read as a Tmobile phone instead of AT&T?

edo101 said:
You were right. I googled Metro APN and now its working. THANK YOU!!
Btw any chance you know how to change my phone to read as a Tmobile phone instead of AT&T?
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Build.prop edit. Do a nandroid backup first, if you make a mistake you can have problems. Reboot into android. Save a copy of the file as build.bak then edit the build.prop so that any reference to SGH-i317 is changed to SGH-T889. Also anything that shows t0lte or anything similar can be changed to t0ltetmo. There are editor apps in the play store.
If things go bad, simply restore back to your nandroid via recovery. No fuss, no muss.
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i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case.
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Can you please give us a link to this tool, coz' it looks like a good tool to have.
Thanks.
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premiatul said:
Can you please give us a link to this tool, coz' it looks like a good tool to have.
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/tool-samsung-tool-1-0-t2602325
current version is 5.0