Ok im confused heck about this flashing stuff. I have a S2 I rooted, and flashed... using zerg oneclick.. didnt flash my counter.... and I flashed tons of times
How come on this phone It will ding my flash counter? Isn't there some way to not ? Also I read a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35165945&postcount=1610
I just need to understand..
So what trips the flash counter? Every fash trips the counter?
I need my warrenty so I need make sure whatever I do I don't flash the counter... beside that thread about are there any other roms that won't tip my counter? BTW im on ICS still im about get JB but im holding off to see if being on ICS means I can flash with out tripping my counter someone explain this in noobie for me
Hate to tell you, but you are in the Att Galaxy S3 forum.
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Ok im confused heck about this flashing stuff. I have a S2 I rooted, and flashed... using zerg oneclick.. didnt flash my counter.... and I flashed tons of times
How come on this phone It will ding my flash counter? Isn't there some way to not ? Also I read a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35165945&postcount=1610
I just need to understand
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I have NEVER used 1-touch. Follow the instructions you found in the link you provided, and you'll be just fine.
Edit: as long as you're on the ATT GSIII
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I have a s2 rooted but I own a S3
Look im on ICS right now from the store (just got my phone) I want to root it and install a custom rom.... now my question is
Because I don't have JB yet I won't flash my counter right? Question is I can easly choose to flash stock firm ware again later on and reinstall the offical JB rom right? The one from the KIES and samsung,..
So once again... Im on ICS offical.... I want a custom ICS rom.... im ok ? no flash counter? I choose to go back to stock and go forward with JB im still ok no flash counter?
Alright.... but if I flash a JB ROM It will flash right? and it keeps flashing the counter every time I flash
Im a bad type try answer my question if you can please.
I am a person who may need his warrenty some day
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Because I don't have JB yet I won't flash my counter right?
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You will trip the flash counter if you use Odin to flash something other than a stock (untouched or properly rooted) image.
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Question is I can easly choose to flash stock firm ware again later on and reinstall the offical JB rom right? The one from the KIES and samsung,..
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Yes - see here for completely stock images you can use for that, or here for pre-rooted stock images.
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So once again... Im on ICS offical.... I want a custom ICS rom.... im ok ? no flash counter? I choose to go back to stock and go forward with JB im still ok no flash counter?
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Well, to reach the point of having a custom ROM image without having tripped the flash counter, you'll need to go through the root process listed in the second of those links I indicated above so that you can install a custom recovery through which you can install those ROM images.
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Alright.... but if I flash a JB ROM It will flash right? and it keeps flashing the counter every time I flash
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Just remember - if you're using Odin and you don't want to trip the flash counter, don't flash anything other than stock images. You should be okay then.
Also, keep in mind there is an app called Triangle Away which works for the GS3. Triangle Away can completely reset the flash counter.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/triangleaway-reset-flash-counter-tool/
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I recently rooted my S3 and am running frostys basic jelly bean Rom. I've installed CWM and checked my flash counter and its at 0 and I want to keep it that way. So do I need to go back to stock jelly bean through Odin then flash the new Rom that I want to try?
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I recently rooted my S3 and am running frostys basic jelly bean Rom. I've installed CWM and checked my flash counter and its at 0 and I want to keep it that way. So do I need to go back to stock jelly bean through Odin then flash the new Rom that I want to try?
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After the 4.1 update samsung updated their bootloader. I completely wiped my phone and it still is tripping the flash counter ever time you boot to recovery. Even after wiping everything. Even if you flashed stock ICS, after you flash your Recovery of choice through Odin you are going to trip the counter.
I am in the process of writing a guide to get back to Complete stock with a zero flash counter.
The point is, you are going to trip your counter. Dont panic, it is 100 percent resetable.
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After the 4.1 update samsung updated their bootloader. I completely wiped my phone and it still is tripping the flash counter ever time you boot to recovery. Even after wiping everything. Even if you flashed stock ICS, after you flash your Recovery of choice through Odin you are going to trip the counter.
I am in the process of writing a guide to get back to Complete stock with a zero flash counter.
The point is, you are going to trip your counter. Dont panic, it is 100 percent resetable.
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I downloaded Rom Manager off the play store and flashed the recovery through Rom Manager and I've gone into recovery countless times and my flash counter still says zero. I just got the phone Friday and it came pre-loaded with JB. You said you trip the counter every time you enter recovery? Weird!
Edit - I followed the guide from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33115777 but I installed the ICS version first then flashed to frostys all while not tripping the counter.
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I downloaded Rom Manager off the play store and flashed the recovery through Rom Manager and I've gone into recovery countless times and my flash counter still says zero. I just got the phone Friday and it came pre-loaded with JB. You said you trip the counter every time you enter recovery? Weird!
Edit - I followed the guide from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33115777 but I installed the ICS version first then flashed to frostys all while not tripping the counter.
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I think that is the only wildcard. I flashed my recovery from Odin on my computer. Reset it via Triangle Away, booted back to recovery, and it tripped it. I remember reading that if you use Rom Manager then it doesnt. Im not sure why or why not but yes if you Odin recovery then you trip flash counter with each boot to recovery.
I have done much testing/goofing around. And no matter what scenario you are in, it is always able to flash back to stock 4.1.1 with a zero flash counter.
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I think that is the only wildcard. I flashed my recovery from Odin on my computer. Reset it via Triangle Away, booted back to recovery, and it tripped it. I remember reading that if you use Rom Manager then it doesnt. Im not sure why or why not but yes if you Odin recovery then you trip flash counter with each boot to recovery.
I have done much testing/goofing around. And no matter what scenario you are in, it is always able to flash back to stock 4.1.1 with a zero flash counter.
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So then since I've gotten the wildcard does that mean I'm free to flash whatever rom I'd like without ever tripping the counter?
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I rooted my phone without stripping the flash counter and recovery by goomanager and i checked and it was still 0.
We after i have only flash roms and newest twrp updates from goomanager. today I was trying to boot to recovery and messed up and booted to download mode. So since I was already there I went to check my flash encounter and it was set to 1. Witch it made me wonder how it got there if I havent used odin, only to root without stripping the flash encounter.
So by flashing roms etc via recovery can stripped the counter?
Not that it bothers me but just a thought
On the later stock firmwares, the bootloader was changed so that your counter will always show 1 if you are using a custom recovery.
TriangleAway will clear it, but as soon as you reboot, it will be back.
No worries.
Aerowinder said:
On the later stock firmwares, the bootloader was changed so that your counter will always show 1 if you are using a custom recovery.
TriangleAway will clear it, but as soon as you reboot, it will be back.
No worries.
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So as long i have a custom recovery it will be 1 even after TriangleAway reset and reboot. With stock recovery it will stay at 0 right?
I know that to be the case with UVDLJC. Unsure of when that started though.
Flash counter is irrelevant.
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gypsy214 said:
So as long i have a custom recovery it will be 1 even after TriangleAway reset and reboot. With stock recovery it will stay at 0 right?
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If you ever want the counter to remain a "0" just odin flash a Tmobile Jellybean v4.1.1 stock or a stock-rooted rom.
After doing that use the triangleAway and the flash counter will remain at 0 unless
you flash a custom rom which is not based on a Tmobile T999 Jellybean v4.1.1 rom.
If you want the stock-rooted Tmobile Jellybean v4.1.1 rom here is the link: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390169635556426451
Flashing CWM or TWRP recovery has no effect on the flash counter, it will not change it one way or another.
Rooting has no effect on the flash counter either.
Misterjunky said:
If you ever want the counter to remain a "0" just odin flash a Tmobile Jellybean v4.1.1 stock or a stock-rooted rom.
After doing that use the triangleAway and the flash counter will remain at 0 unless
you flash a custom rom which is not based on a Tmobile T999 Jellybean v4.1.1 rom.
If you want the stock-rooted Tmobile Jellybean v4.1.1 rom here is the link: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390169635556426451
Flashing CWM or TWRP recovery has no effect on the flash counter, it will not change it one way or another.
Rooting has no effect on the flash counter either.
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This is incorrect.. Check your resources bro..
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LuigiBull23 said:
This is incorrect.. Check your resources bro..
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Indeed it is. I think I understand what he meant (not what he said). But it's still incorrect. What I said is tested and researched by me personally.
can someone provide a link to a ROM that doesnt trip the flash counter? i think mr. robinson may have a rom like that. can someone put up the link?
Stock Rom doesn't trip the flash counter Just don't flash a recovery
ronin178 said:
Stock Rom doesn't trip the flash counter Just don't flash a recovery
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what are u talking about?? i found mr. robinson's flashable rom that doesnt trip the flash counter. here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560
would u mind explaining why ur the only one saying that the stock rom doenst trip the flash counter? yet mr. robinson released a rom that doesnt? u mind explaining this?
I believe that that's a stock Rom . And flashing a custom recovery is what will trip the flash counter
ronin178 said:
Stock Rom doesn't trip the flash counter Just don't flash a recovery
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I believe that that's a stock Rom . And flashing a custom recovery is what will trip the flash counter
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hi gman.. just to make sure i understand u correctly, a custom recovery is a customized rom.. is this right?
xenine said:
hi gman.. just to make sure i understand u correctly, a custom recovery is a customized rom.. is this right?
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No a recovery is like TWRP Or CWM...something that helps flash a ROM...
Or check here for better understanding. .. http://m.androidcentral.com/what-recovery-android-z
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xenine said:
what are u talking about?? i found mr. robinson's flashable rom that doesnt trip the flash counter. here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560
would u mind explaining why ur the only one saying that the stock rom doenst trip the flash counter? yet mr. robinson released a rom that doesnt? u mind explaining this?
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My attempt at humor-if you don't mod your phone, you never trip flash counter Google triangle away
Recovery will trip counter. Any non samsung signed flash will Do so (from my understanding)..
By the way a recovery is a ROM by all definition. Its flashed in read only memory of your device . Special partition the boot-loader boots . its by all definitions a OS In itself... just with very limited function..
If im wrong contact my lawyer
Use triangle away and flash what you want .... No biggie if you fallow instructions . .
Good Luck op. read 3 times flash once keeps your phone happy and wallet not stressed..
erica_renee said:
Recovery will trip counter. Any non samsung signed flash will Do so (from my understanding)..
Use triangle away and flash what you want .... No biggie if you fallow instructions . .
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so after installing mr. robinson's No Tripping Flash Counter Rom, i just use Triangle Away and flash any custom rom?
i dont plan to install a custom rom if i install mr. robinson's No Tripping Flash Counter Rom. but will installing custom skins trip the flash counter with mr. robinson's rom?
xenine said:
so after installing mr. robinson's No Tripping Flash Counter Rom, i just use Triangle Away and flash any custom rom?
i dont plan to install a custom rom if i install mr. robinson's No Tripping Flash Counter Rom. but will installing custom skins trip the flash counter with mr. robinson's rom?
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awww im a bit confused at what are you flashing with .. CUSTOM recovery or odin... It makes since to read the op thread of what you are flashing.. There are different outcomes depending on the situation..
There is not a one size fit all solution or situation.. My guess is keep reading keep asking questions before you flash anything at all..
Its a expensive phone and not heavy enough for a paper weight...
I'm rooted with a custom recovery running M919UVUAMDB. Is there an easy way for me to update to M919UVUAMDL. When I tried the ota it said my phone has been modified and wouldn't proceed. I've been reading about people having issues rooting their phone after the they updated, so I'm thinking it may not be worth it to update at this time. I'm hoping I can just flash somthing to bring my phone up to date without the root blocking that was implemented in UAMDL. I have been having some issues and hope the update would resolve them. Can someone steer me in the right direction please? Thanks
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I'm rooted with a custom recovery running M919UVUAMDB. Is there an easy way for me to update to M919UVUAMDL. When I tried the ota it said my phone has been modified and wouldn't proceed. I've been reading about people having issues rooting their phone after the they updated, so I'm thinking it may not be worth it to update at this time. I'm hoping I can just flash somthing to bring my phone up to date without the root blocking that was implemented in UAMDL. I have been having some issues and hope the update would resolve them. Can someone steer me in the right direction please? Thanks
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I have the same question.
As do I. I'm thinking it'll be a flash via Kies, then re-flash TWRP, install the custom kernel and re-root.
darkjedi said:
As do I. I'm thinking it'll be a flash via Kies, then re-flash TWRP, install the custom kernel and re-root.
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Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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aLdaRiS said:
Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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I thought some of the stock rooted firmwares were zipped and could be flashed via recovery.... (why I didn't think of doing this on the old GS4 I have no idea, prolly because I wanted to keep my recovery stock -shrug-)
Either way wouldn't you need to get Triangle Away?
adventure_of_link said:
I thought some of the stock rooted firmwares were zipped and could be flashed via recovery.... (why I didn't think of doing this on the old GS4 I have no idea, prolly because I wanted to keep my recovery stock -shrug-)
Either way wouldn't you need to get Triangle Away?
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I'm not sure what you're taking about lol
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aLdaRiS said:
I'm not sure what you're taking about lol
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...in other words, isn't it possible to find a custom firmware that you can flash through recovery? (or since this is Samsung land, is this all through Odin? I remember on my Evo 3D I could find new custom firmwares in zip files and flash from recovery.)
and Triangle Away resets some kind of counter specific to some Samsung phones relating to custom firmwares.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
adventure_of_link said:
...in other words, isn't it possible to find a custom firmware that you can flash through recovery? (or since this is Samsung land, is this all through Odin? I remember on my Evo 3D I could find new custom firmwares in zip files and flash from recovery.)
and Triangle Away resets some kind of counter specific to some Samsung phones relating to re-installs.
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he said he's already rooted and already has a custom recovery... so basically he needs to find a rom that is stock MDL but rooted(there are 2 in the and development forum) and flash it. that's it. I'm not sure why they wanted to update through Odin it kinda makes no sense.. cos they it'd be stock uprooted and then they'd have to root it again. AFAIK triangle away it's only used to reset the counter on the bootloader to see that you haven't installed any custom recoveries which you would only need if you were to send the phone back to tmo to have it exchanged. Otherwise you don't really need Odin unless you **** up a flash and then need to bring it back to stock fw and then root it again and do the whole process basically ODIN brings your phone back from a soft brick.
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aLdaRiS said:
Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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Has nothing to do with lazy. I ended up upgrading via Kies, flashing the custom kernel and then rooting.
Do you need to use triangle away when you first root your phone? Or can you just use it when you need to return the phone back to stock? I want to root and if I need to return my phone for warranty I want to be able to put the phone back to stock with 0 flash counter.
later not needed right away
hold on but.....
dpshptl said:
Do you need to use triangle away when you first root your phone? Or can you just use it when you need to return the phone back to stock? I want to root and if I need to return my phone for warranty I want to be able to put the phone back to stock with 0 flash counter.
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U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
Mr_Jay_jay said:
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
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This is not even close to the truth.
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This is not even close to the truth.
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and u say this because? I mean I'm just talking on my experience with triangle away and JB It didn't work, I would use it and it would reset but once I restarted the counter would go back to "1" and honestly I'm not the only one, so please if u know the rite answer please explain, just calling me a liar is not helping anyone at all.
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and u say this because? I mean I'm just talking on my experience with triangle away and JB It didn't work, I would use it and it would reset but once I restarted the counter would go back to "1" and honestly I'm not the only one, so please if u know the rite answer please explain, just calling me a liar is not helping anyone at all.
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I'm not calling you a liar. I simply stated that your post was not factually accurate. TriangleAway does indeed work as intended on even the new MD5.
Using a custom recovery will cause your flash counter to trip on newer JB builds. This may be what you meant, but the issue is not related to TA. It's a bootloader "feature". You can witness this yourself by resetting the flash counter, then rebooting into download mode. Count will be 0.
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I'm not calling you a liar. I simply stated that your post was not factually accurate. TriangleAway does indeed work as intended on even the new MD5.
Using a custom recovery will cause your flash counter to trip on newer JB builds. This may be what you meant, but the issue is not related to TA. It's a bootloader "feature". You can witness this yourself by resetting the flash counter, then rebooting into download mode. Count will be 0.
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So what u're saying is that my custom recovery is to blamed? I can say that statement is partially true. Wait.. u think I havent tried to reset my counter while on JB before?? I'm telling it didn't work why don't you go head and try to reset your counter and show that it did work.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpL46-Zd0A&feature=youtu.be
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So what u're saying is that my custom recovery is to blamed? I can say that statement is partially true. Wait.. u think I havent tried to reset my counter while on JB before?? I'm telling it didn't work why don't you go head and try to reset your counter and show that it did work.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpL46-Zd0A&feature=youtu.be
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He's correct. Having a custom recovery will always trip the flash counter to 1 after every subsequent reboot. If you use Ta and reboot, you'll see 0. But the next time you reboot and don't use Ta you will see 1. It doesn't matter what ROM you run or how you've rooted in the end, the custom binary (TWRP / CWM) will Always trip the counter.
That being said if you don't want to continously trip the counter you're going to need to go back to stock recovery.
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TheLastSidekick said:
He's correct. Having a custom recovery will always trip the flash counter to 1 after every subsequent reboot. If you use Ta and reboot, you'll see 0. But the next time you reboot and don't use Ta you will see 1. It doesn't matter what ROM you run or how you've rooted in the end, the custom binary (TWRP / CWM) will Always trip the counter.
That being said if you don't want to continously trip the counter you're going to need to go back to stock recovery.
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I do Agree with his statment, however while I was on any ICS rom even with custom recovery, TA would work even after a reboot, so my counter would stay at "0" it wasnt after I upgraded to JB when the TA would reset after reboot. I will upload a video of doing TA on ICS and everything just to prove I'm not just arguing just because. but it will have to wait til l8er tonite.
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I do Agree with his statment, however while I was on any ICS rom even with custom recovery, TA would work even after a reboot, so my counter would stay at "0" it wasnt after I upgraded to JB when the TA would reset after reboot. I will upload a video of doing TA on ICS and everything just to prove I'm not just arguing just because. but it will have to wait til l8er tonite.
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There is no need for a video. I understand what you are saying, and I'm telling you, it's because of the bootloader. Not TriangleAway.
I am on 4.1.1 and TA 2.90 works FINE, the Counter shows "0" after a bunch of reboots, and "Allow tracker to run" is checked...
The ONLY time the counter trips is when/if I boot into the recovery or downloader modes.
I guess some structure of the setup makes a difference. I am using Root66 SGHT999 Build JR003L.T999UVDLJA with a T999UVDMD5 Baseband
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I am on 4.1.1 and TA 2.90 works FINE, the Counter shows "0" after a bunch of reboots, and "Allow tracker to run" is checked...
The ONLY time the counter trips is when/if I boot into the recovery or downloader modes.
I guess some structure of the setup makes a difference. I am using Root66 SGHT999 Build JR003L.T999UVDLJA with a T999UVDMD5 Baseband
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kool. maybe that's a good workaround. thanks. but in my case still won't work.. but then again i'm 4.1.2. thanks!
Mr_Jay_jay said:
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
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You can avoid using Odin and flash old firmware (excluding system / kernel) directly via heimdall or dd (which can be nicely bundled into an update.zip), avoiding the whole mess of needing Odin/Windows and having to backup+restore your system.
I think I'll make an update.zip just to flash the oldest firmware onto our phones -- I just made one that flashes the latest UVDMD5 firmware. The ROM shouldn't make a difference as far as trying to clear the flash counter really, it's the firmware that would be blocking that.
Also, flashing ROMs through CWM Recovery (and probably other custom ones) avoids tripping the flash counter. If you can root your ROM and dd the recovery directly to your eMMC, it avoids tripping the flash counter. Then you can use CWM Recovery to flash things without tripping the counter as well.
Remember, these are just computers with Linux + kernel modifications + custom Java VM running on them, essentially. It's good to become comfortable with UNIX commands like dd.
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Also, flashing ROMs through CWM Recovery (and probably other custom ones) avoids tripping the flash counter. If you can root your ROM and dd the recovery directly to your eMMC, it avoids tripping the flash counter. Then you can use CWM Recovery to flash things without tripping the counter as well.
Remember, these are just computers with Linux + kernel modifications + custom Java VM running on them, essentially. It's good to become comfortable with UNIX commands like dd.
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I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
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I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
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Really? I mean I'm no authority on this, so I could be wrong but I based this off my findings last night. I was in Download mode quite a few times and got to see my Flash Counter which was at 3. I've gone into recovery dozens if not hundreds of times by now on this device as well as flashed dozens and dozens of things ...
Even if it was just an 8-bit counter that overflowed, I'd need to have flashed over 256 things which I don't think I've reached yet and it would be totally silly if Samsung made the counter so easy to defeat that an 8-bit numeric overflow would bring it back to 0.
Can anyone else chime/weigh in? I'm curious now. I heard that using dd is supposed to avoid the flash counter. As a software engineer, I'd think there has to be some hook to trip that counter and that hook would belong to whatever firmware is on the phone for flashing (i.e. the stock recovery) and that if any other software gains control of the phone, all bets are off.
bobolinko said:
I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
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I don't know who told you all of that or where you read it but you are wrong.
The only things that trip the flash counter is when you flash a custom rom or a custom kernel.
Simply booting into stock or custom recovery will not trip the flash counter at all.
Think about it, that's why it's called a FLASH counter, it counts the number of rom and kernel flashes. LOL
Misterjunky said:
I don't know who told you all of that or where you read it but you are wrong.
The only things that trip the flash counter is when you flash a custom rom or a custom kernel.
Simply booting into stock or custom recovery will not trip the flash counter at all.
Think about it, that's why it's called a FLASH counter, it counts the number of rom and kernel flashes. LOL
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It trips whenever I boot into TWRP though. Maybe some phones are different?
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TheLastSidekick said:
It trips whenever I boot into TWRP though. Maybe some phones are different?
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Perhaps since I have an unlocked phone it might make a difference?
I have a Galaxy S3 AT&T I747 Unlocked phone and am using it with Tmobile service.
That makes sense actually lol as it says I have an SGH-T999 and mine isn't unlocked. Probably the model of the phone acts slightly differently with Ta and recoveries.
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In my case My counter won't move from "1" no matter what I do, Restart to download or Recovery ( TWRP), or flash a new rom which I do alot, only way it goes from 1 to "2" is when I do something to my phone and I need to odin back to stock and re root(which I did for research) ... it's then it gets trigger again.