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WM6.1 Caller ID issue

Hey folks,
I've searched the forum and Googled this issue, and I haven't seen it in quite this way, so I'm going to just ask it. And maybe this is is just a misunderstanding of how Caller ID works on the Excalibur, so please correct me if I am wrong:
My Caller ID works fine for those numbers that are in my Contact List, or course. By this, I mean I see both name and phone number. But for unknown numbers, I see just the number and no name. Which is annoying, to say the least.
I have noticed this more since I had to restore my Contacts a couple weeks ago, although I don't think that has anything to do with it. I see no Phone setting that affects this.
Okay, so the question is, is this the natural state of affairs for Caller ID in wm6.1? If the number is not in your contacts, you don't get full Caller ID? Or am I missing a setting or a registry entry or something?
DF

darkfire62 said:
Hey folks,
I've searched the forum and Googled this issue, and I haven't seen it in quite this way, so I'm going to just ask it. And maybe this is is just a misunderstanding of how Caller ID works on the Excalibur, so please correct me if I am wrong:
My Caller ID works fine for those numbers that are in my Contact List, or course. By this, I mean I see both name and phone number. But for unknown numbers, I see just the number and no name. Which is annoying, to say the least.
I have noticed this more since I had to restore my Contacts a couple weeks ago, although I don't think that has anything to do with it. I see no Phone setting that affects this.
Okay, so the question is, is this the natural state of affairs for Caller ID in wm6.1? If the number is not in your contacts, you don't get full Caller ID? Or am I missing a setting or a registry entry or something?
DF
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How does the phone know more than the number of the caller if not in contacts???

I was thinking of the way my landline phone (yes, I still have one of those, but I may be canning it soon) gets its Caller ID information. Verizon just sends it down the line to the phone. I thought T-Mobile did the same thing, the service just sends the necessary info down the line to the phone, but I thought that was a given (Caller ID) with wireless phone service. Maybe I'm mistaken, which maybe someone could clarify for me?
Now to me, what I'm getting seems like "partial" Caller ID, the number without the name? Or maybe I'm just totally confused on it all, been a rough week...

I have yet to see Caller ID show a name on a cell phone if it's not in your contacts. Verizon included.

I didn't mean Verizon's wireless service, I meant their landline service.
Never mind, went over to T-Mobile, that's the way it's sent down, number only. Thanks.

darkfire62 said:
Hey folks,
I've searched the forum and Googled this issue, and I haven't seen it in quite this way, so I'm going to just ask it. And maybe this is is just a misunderstanding of how Caller ID works on the Excalibur, so please correct me if I am wrong:
My Caller ID works fine for those numbers that are in my Contact List, or course. By this, I mean I see both name and phone number. But for unknown numbers, I see just the number and no name. Which is annoying, to say the least.
I have noticed this more since I had to restore my Contacts a couple weeks ago, although I don't think that has anything to do with it. I see no Phone setting that affects this.
Okay, so the question is, is this the natural state of affairs for Caller ID in wm6.1? If the number is not in your contacts, you don't get full Caller ID? Or am I missing a setting or a registry entry or something?
DF
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I thought I was having that Problem..
but im now having the problem with the Pictures not coming up.

tdavis75 said:
I have yet to see Caller ID show a name on a cell phone if it's not in your contacts. Verizon included.
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In Canada Rogers offers this service. They call it Name Display

^^^^^^^^^^^yup dont forget fido too lol

[REQ] [BOUNTY] App for saving Caller ID non contacts name display

Hello all,
I was wondering if there is a fix for SGS i9000 for Rogers/Fido name display. I get the name correctly on my phone while the number is ringing, however, when I answer or don't pickup the call, I just get the number.
Thank you

i don't follow...
when i miss i call i get the normal SMS from 8888 telling me that i missed a call from such and such from the phone number that phoned me
and in the phone call log, i see the little red arrow that i missed a call with the name and phone number of the contact
if it was not a contact then it just shows the phone number (which is normal of all previous cell phones i've used)
so... what exactly is not working for you?

I don't have that feature that would send me an SMS with the name and number. I just have a "Name Display and Caller number" feature. On FIDO supported phones any person that calls, even if that person is not in the contact list, his/her name would display. On my phone, SGS i9000M, Name Display works only while the phone is ringing....

iamcanadian said:
even if that person is not in the contact list, his/her name would display. On my phone, SGS i9000M, Name Display works only while the phone is ringing....
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that is correct
this is how it works normally on any cell phone that i've had with Fido
only displays the name when it's ringing
it doesn't save the name, it never did for any of my previous cell phones
that's only for people that are not on your contact list

And I guess the question was if there is a way to have the name not only the number in the call log after the call is completed. Is there a fix for this? Thx
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

well there is nothing to FIX because it's not broken
the "Advanced Caller ID" the one that shows you the callers name even though it is not in your contact list, is a network feature
not a phone feature
the build in phone feature will match the caller ID from the network provided number to your contact list then show you the caller name, if it's not in your contact list you will just get the number
that is standard on all phones with caller ID
the trick that the network uses, is that they tag the name of the person calling you along the caller ID number
older phones wouldn't even display the name
newer phones will show the name, but not be able to do anything with it, it just displays it that's all
the build in software on most phones are only designed to save the caller ID number, no extra stuff tagging along.
translation you will need a Developer to come up with a new software to be able to save both the caller ID + the extra strings attached

Just to confirm my old nokia n97 did save the name in missed calls.
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I see what you mean, on some phones when someone calls you and you do not have the persons contact saved the following happens:
1. Name is displayed along with the number while ringing.
2. When you look up the phone log the name is in there and when you save the contact it already has the name typed in for you.
On the Galaxy S number 2 does not happen. I dont know how to change it to make it work however, I am interested.

A new software will be required to do that, none of my previous phone had that feature
time to hire an android developer to make and app to do that
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

I have the same features with Fido and i found it to be annoying that it wouldnt show the callers name(not on my contacts) in missed calls. If its important they can call again lol.
Off-Topic:
I am about to purchase the Captivate from Rogers(finally its out...) but im with Fido, what im wondering is it possible to unlock the phone with the unlock/unfreeze guide located in the dev section. I just dont want to create a new thread for one question
PS. It didnt allow me to post the link to the guide because i just joined, sorry for the trouble lol.

I would appreciate if someone can post a fix for this issue. I'll throw in some money for a fix

Me too!
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App

if you guys really want this feature implemented you'll have to put up a bounty to hire a developer to make an app for that

AllGamer said:
if you guys really want this feature implemented you'll have to put up a bounty to hire a developer to make an app for that
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I'm not sure how bounties are done here, however, 20 US dollars from me send via paypal!

Did you ever tried super caller ID?
Greez

Auratumus said:
Did you ever tried super caller ID?
Greez
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super caller ID is only good if you have an active data or WIFI connection

My bro has a Acer Liquid from Fido and caller id from non-contact sticks in log.
Come on Samsung or XDA!!!

Any update...any luck on this?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

[Q] Sending "Private number" to voicemail

I would like to find a way to send incoming "Private number" calls to voicemail, without downloading an app (with the security risks involved with this, as all apps I found want to read phone #, all of my contacts, and have access to the internet).
In Googling I found that on other, older, phones you could create a contact with "Private number" in the mobile phone field and select the "All calls to voicemail". I tried this on my Galaxy Nexus running 4.0.4 and it doesn't seem to be working.
Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?
Or does anybody know an app that is not a security risk (i.e. does not request access to the internet and/or my phone and/or my contacts)?
BTW, these are the permissions that one of these Apps (this one called Calls Blacklist) is requesting:
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
RECEIVE SMS
READ SMS OR MMS
EDIT SMS OR MMS
NETWORK COMMUNICATION
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITY
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
MODIFY/DELETE USB STORAGE CONTENTS MODIFY/DELETE SD CARD CONTENTS
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
CHANGE WI-FI STATE
PREVENT TABLET FROM SLEEPING PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING
MODIFY GLOBAL SYSTEM SETTINGS
CHANGE/INTERCEPT NETWORK SETTINGS AND TRAFFIC
DISPLAY SYSTEM-LEVEL ALERTS

You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
That would be like me saying to you; "I'm sorry sir, you're not appropriately dressed for this restaurant." over the phone.
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.

Security risks? The app kinda needs that information. You're better off not installing any apps as any of them could steal your valuable phone number.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco

Liskrig said:
You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
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Duh, of course, it's not listed above as one of the unneeded permissions above.
But none of these are even remotely needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
EDIT SMS OR MMS
Liskrig said:
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.
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How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
Besides the fact that yet another app means yet another thing that can go wrong (battery drain, system instability, etc.)
Back to the original question: "Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?"

hillrider said:
Duh, of course!
But none of these are needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
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Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then. You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you. Ever thought of who could be hacking your Wi-fi? They could steal and intercept ANYTHING sent through your home internet.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco

theking_13 said:
Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then.
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None found, hence this thread.
A response to the OP, without flaming and personal attacks would be greatly appreciated.

theking_13 said:
... You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco
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+1

If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about) and switch to a Google Voice number, you can set it through the website settings that anonymous callers are directly routed to voicemail.

copkay said:
If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about)
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Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!
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and switch to a Google Voice number
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This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.[/QUOTE]
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...

hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Yeah, the replies haven't been particularly helpful so far. It's not "paranoid" to at least question the security of these apps, although the most popular ones are most likely fine.
You have a point with the non-Voice number. There's also the "no-turning-back" solution of porting your existing number to Google Voice for $20, which would then fix the problem, but it's not particularly ideal unless you're 100% sold on GV.

hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
I actually have 2 Google Voice numbers and my normal Verizon one (3 total). One for Personal, one for my side Website business, and my normal job.
I don't restrict any callers but there are options in there for unknowns and the likes. At least you can setup CALL SCREENING, where it asks for the persons name. So I can answer ANY call, it will say, "Call from... Donut Marketing" and it gives me 2 options, 1 to take the call... and 2 to send to VM.
If you press 2, it then says, "Ok I've sent the caller to VM. Press STAR at any time to join the call". So if the VM is someone I WANT to speak with, I just pop in and say Hi. Most Marketers will shy away from leaving their name... no name, no call. They typically hang up immediately. Still prevents me from having to talk to them and try to get off the phone.
Even when they do leave me a Google Voice Mail, it gets translated to text and emailed to me so I can read it seconds after they've left it. Then just delete like a normal email.
Super easy.
You can probably also call up your carrier and say you are getting lots of Marketing calls from Unknown numbers and want them blocked. They'll probably want to charge you a fee... but maybe not.

player911 said:
Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
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how did you get verizon to port your number without killing your contract? i just called and they said its not possible.

Root call blocker does this.

Question OP 9pro on Verizon - caller ID

My caller ID is not working for any calls not on my contact list. This was not the case on the Pixel 3XL I came from. I have added a secondary caller ID app called Hiya which shows me there IS caller information coming across, but the Google dialer is only showing a phone number.
Anyone else with this? Is it normal on OP? Is there a fix?

SGT said:
My caller ID is not working for any calls not on my contact list. This was not the case on the Pixel 3XL I came from. I have added a secondary caller ID app called Hiya which shows me there IS caller information coming across, but the Google dialer is only showing a phone number.
Anyone else with this? Is it normal on OP? Is there a fix?
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I have not experienced this issue. In the Google dialer app you can turn this feature on if I recall correctly.

bulletbling said:
I have not experienced this issue. In the Google dialer app you can turn this feature on if I recall correctly.
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You can.
Guess I should have mentioned I have the settings turned on.
I've reset connections, reset network settings, even wiped the phone a few times installing with zero backups. Hasn't changed anything.

While I'm moderately happy with the phone, this is still an issue.
Anyone have suggestions?

You need to call Verizon and tell them your issue.. they need to fix it on their end

I have a pretty hard time believing this is on the Verizon end when different apps will get the information.
The caller information is making it TO the phone, as evident in different apps, but the Google dialer is not broadcasting the info.
After spending countless hours with Verizon just to get this phone working on their network, I probably shouldn't doubt you. It's just a rabbit hole I don't think I can go down...trying to get to a customer support reps who actually knows how to fix things and not read candid answers off a checklist in front of them is pretty rough.

SGT said:
I have a pretty hard time believing this is on the Verizon end when different apps will get the information.
The caller information is making it TO the phone, as evident in different apps, but the Google dialer is not broadcasting the info.
After spending countless hours with Verizon just to get this phone working on their network, I probably shouldn't doubt you. It's just a rabbit hole I don't think I can go down...trying to get to a customer support reps who actually knows how to fix things and not read candid answers off a checklist in front of them is pretty rough.
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I had to do the same thing with Verizon first I couldn't receive messages and I had to get them to make the phone cdma-less on their end .. then after I got the messages to work my caller id didn't work ...I was lucky and got someone who actually knew what they were talking about and the caller id issue was fixed after the call

Djseelove said:
I had to do the same thing with Verizon first I couldn't receive messages and I had to get them to make the phone cdma-less on their end .. then after I got the messages to work my caller id didn't work ...I was lucky and got someone who actually knew what they were talking about and the caller id issue was fixed after the call
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Thanks for the clarification...pretty much the same steps I've gone through minus the last.
Guess I'll sucker up and try to call them.

SGT said:
Thanks for the clarification...pretty much the same steps I've gone through minus the last.
Guess I'll sucker up and try to call them.
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Definitely an issue on VZW side. I've seen reports about this around. I'm on T-Mobile, so it's pretty much enabled by default across all the phones my family has... Including an iPhone.

How To Guide Hide my caller ID

Hello I have oneplus 9 pro , How can I hide my phone number? there is no options anywhere to hide my number

Hello there, Open phone app, 3 dots on top corner, calling accounts, and select either att, tmo or whatever your case is, gsm call settings, additional setings, caller id and you'll see the options you are looking for.

I looked no options I'm with verizon

To disable that you either have to do it through the Verizon website or the MyVerizon app. If I remember correctly it's under Add-ons, caller ID.

I called verizon no option to hide my caller ID on my phone yet , maybe in future updates thanks for the help

gregs4623 said:
I called verizon no option to hide my caller ID on my phone yet , maybe in future updates thanks for the help
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I'm using this app.

Never mind the fact of why you're trying to do this.
The only way to do it proper is to get a burner phone that has no traceable ties to you, you know ISIS kind of SOP.
Do not use the phone with your primary phone on.
Do not use at places you normally frequent.
Your voice print is unique and identifiable.
This covers some but not all the steps that need to be taken to go dark*.
I block all no ID callers and shred the ones that shouldn't be calling... have a nice day
*Disclaimer: blackhawk bears no responsibility if this fails to work and/or you end up where you don't want to be. Not responsible for Hellfire missiles that may or may not appear.

Try this: *31#numberyouwanttocall
Or just *31# and then Call
#31# to make your number visible again

tried hide my number pro and *31# still my name shows up

gregs4623 said:
tried hide my number pro and *31# still my name shows up
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Some of those codes don't work on newer phones.

I found that dialing *67 area code and number does hide your name and number

gregs4623 said:
I found that dialing *67 area code and number does hide your name and number
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Idk why people hide their number anyway. If I have private number call me I hang up

Phone settings,calls,more features, caller id and call waiting, caller id, and you should see hide number

blackhawk said:
Never mind the fact of why you're trying to do this.
The only way to do it proper is to get a burner phone that has no traceable ties to you, you know ISIS kind of SOP.
Do not use the phone with your primary phone on.
Do not use at places you normally frequent.
Your voice print is unique and identifiable.
This covers some but not all the steps that need to be taken to go dark*.
I block all no ID callers and shred the ones that shouldn't be calling... have a nice day
*Disclaimer: blackhawk bears no responsibility if this fails to work and/or you end up where you don't want to be. Not responsible for Hellfire missiles that may or may not appear.
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Lol at your disclaimer. I love it.

toolhas4degrees said:
Idk why people hide their number anyway. If I have private number call me I hang up
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Categorically !