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Caller Id Contacts Only

In the phone setting - Services - Caller Id is an option to send id "Only to Contacts" instead of everyone or no one. It isn't working with the official AT&T WM6. Actually I'm not sure it ever worked. Anyone have an luck getting it to work? It would be great.
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i cannot get it working too..

wshealy said:
In the phone setting - Services - Caller Id is an option to send id "Only to Contacts" instead of everyone or no one. It isn't working with the official AT&T WM6. Actually I'm not sure it ever worked. Anyone have an luck getting it to work? It would be great.
W
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That is for outgoing caller id (ie, only reveal your caller id to people in your contact list). Is that what you tested to determine it wasn't working?

wshealy said:
In the phone setting - Services - Caller Id is an option to send id "Only to Contacts" instead of everyone or no one. It isn't working with the official AT&T WM6. Actually I'm not sure it ever worked. Anyone have an luck getting it to work? It would be great.
W
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This is not similar to picture caller ID or any 3rd party apps. This service is provided by your Network Operator. If you're subscribed to it then you will have the capability to reveal or not to reveal your ID to your receivers by sending the command to your Network Operator.

yes.. its not caller id picture. its to enable the reveal of our phone number to the caller or not. i am using it but everytime i call the function is not working.

gerald20000 said:
yes.. its not caller id picture. its to enable the reveal of our phone number to the caller or not. i am using it but everytime i call the function is not working.
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Are you subscribed to the CLIR service?
AFAIK, Celcom only gives you 2 options when subcribed to it. 'To show' or 'Not to show'. There's no selective show.

Yes, I actually understand how it is supposed to work and have tested it by calling both contacts and numbers not in my contacts.
Send my Caller Id to everyone or no one works. The option to send to contacts only shows as an option when downloaded from the network and worked on an older phone. I am not sure it ever worked on the 8525 but it isn't working now even though tech support at HTC and At&t says it should. They blame it on unofficial upgrades to software.
I'll test it again on the next build from At&t which I hear is in the kitchen now.

WM6.1 Caller ID issue

Hey folks,
I've searched the forum and Googled this issue, and I haven't seen it in quite this way, so I'm going to just ask it. And maybe this is is just a misunderstanding of how Caller ID works on the Excalibur, so please correct me if I am wrong:
My Caller ID works fine for those numbers that are in my Contact List, or course. By this, I mean I see both name and phone number. But for unknown numbers, I see just the number and no name. Which is annoying, to say the least.
I have noticed this more since I had to restore my Contacts a couple weeks ago, although I don't think that has anything to do with it. I see no Phone setting that affects this.
Okay, so the question is, is this the natural state of affairs for Caller ID in wm6.1? If the number is not in your contacts, you don't get full Caller ID? Or am I missing a setting or a registry entry or something?
DF

darkfire62 said:
Hey folks,
I've searched the forum and Googled this issue, and I haven't seen it in quite this way, so I'm going to just ask it. And maybe this is is just a misunderstanding of how Caller ID works on the Excalibur, so please correct me if I am wrong:
My Caller ID works fine for those numbers that are in my Contact List, or course. By this, I mean I see both name and phone number. But for unknown numbers, I see just the number and no name. Which is annoying, to say the least.
I have noticed this more since I had to restore my Contacts a couple weeks ago, although I don't think that has anything to do with it. I see no Phone setting that affects this.
Okay, so the question is, is this the natural state of affairs for Caller ID in wm6.1? If the number is not in your contacts, you don't get full Caller ID? Or am I missing a setting or a registry entry or something?
DF
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How does the phone know more than the number of the caller if not in contacts???

I was thinking of the way my landline phone (yes, I still have one of those, but I may be canning it soon) gets its Caller ID information. Verizon just sends it down the line to the phone. I thought T-Mobile did the same thing, the service just sends the necessary info down the line to the phone, but I thought that was a given (Caller ID) with wireless phone service. Maybe I'm mistaken, which maybe someone could clarify for me?
Now to me, what I'm getting seems like "partial" Caller ID, the number without the name? Or maybe I'm just totally confused on it all, been a rough week...

I have yet to see Caller ID show a name on a cell phone if it's not in your contacts. Verizon included.

I didn't mean Verizon's wireless service, I meant their landline service.
Never mind, went over to T-Mobile, that's the way it's sent down, number only. Thanks.

darkfire62 said:
Hey folks,
I've searched the forum and Googled this issue, and I haven't seen it in quite this way, so I'm going to just ask it. And maybe this is is just a misunderstanding of how Caller ID works on the Excalibur, so please correct me if I am wrong:
My Caller ID works fine for those numbers that are in my Contact List, or course. By this, I mean I see both name and phone number. But for unknown numbers, I see just the number and no name. Which is annoying, to say the least.
I have noticed this more since I had to restore my Contacts a couple weeks ago, although I don't think that has anything to do with it. I see no Phone setting that affects this.
Okay, so the question is, is this the natural state of affairs for Caller ID in wm6.1? If the number is not in your contacts, you don't get full Caller ID? Or am I missing a setting or a registry entry or something?
DF
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I thought I was having that Problem..
but im now having the problem with the Pictures not coming up.

tdavis75 said:
I have yet to see Caller ID show a name on a cell phone if it's not in your contacts. Verizon included.
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In Canada Rogers offers this service. They call it Name Display

^^^^^^^^^^^yup dont forget fido too lol

[Q] Rogers CNAP (Name Display) on Galaxy Nexus

Does anyone on Rogers have name display (not caller ID, but name display) working on a Galaxy Nexus?
If so, what build are you on?
Thanks.
EDIT: Call forwarding works fine -- it was a user error on my part. Original post modified.

Did you end up figuring it out on how to make it work? I really need this feature?

svmagnum said:
Did you end up figuring it out on how to make it work? I really need this feature?
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Neither CNAP nor call-forwarding seem to work on my device, and no one has answered my post. I will try asking in this thread.
EDIT: Figured out the call-forwarding issue. It was related to Rogers One Number. If you use One Number, you cannot use the phone's forwarding menu.

Here is what i was able to figure out But im a noob.
Cyanogenmod has an ICS update review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,11168 (im new user it doesnt let me post link) that enables the name display.
I beleive name display was incorporated into the Nexus S rom *Ultimate ICS v 3.0" so i was trying to figure out how to make that just an update to add a name display on the stock rom. Maybe you can help?

svmagnum said:
Here is what i was able to figure out But im a noob.
Cyanogenmod has an ICS update review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,11168 (im new user it doesnt let me post link) that enables the name display.
I beleive name display was incorporated into the Nexus S rom *Ultimate ICS v 3.0" so i was trying to figure out how to make that just an update to add a name display on the stock rom. Maybe you can help?
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Here is your link: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,11168
I'm not much of a coder, but hopefully someone can helps us out!

I installed and CNAP is working on [ROM][AOSP][4.0.3] Codename Android 1.1.4.
To make sure it saves in call log you have to use dialer one or simillar app from the market.

svmagnum said:
I installed and CNAP is working on [ROM][AOSP][4.0.3] Codename Android 1.1.4.
To make sure it saves in call log you have to use dialer one or simillar app from the market.
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That's great to hear! However, I would still like someone to either explain to me what changes I need to make to a stock ROM to get this to work, or create a flashable zip that I could look at.
Anyone?

Question for the op. Where did you get your Galaxy Nexus? I know Rogers just received some maybe their model will work with Name display. I also have the service on my account , but still didn't get a call from someone not on my contact list... I will post here with my results!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

big samm said:
Question for the op. Where did you get your Galaxy Nexus? I know Rogers just received some maybe their model will work with Name display. I also have the service on my account , but still didn't get a call from someone not on my contact list... I will post here with my results!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I bought it from Virgin, but all they are all the same (Rogers, Bell, Telus, Virgin), both from a hardware perspective, as well as a software perspective.
I doubt it will work on your device if it is stock.

I disabled Name Display on my account when I had the ATRIX 4G because it would show every incoming call as PAY PHONE but I re-added it a couple of weeks ago and I haven't had any problems. It doesn't display the name of the caller however, just the number.

AllBlaxx said:
I disabled Name Display on my account when I had the ATRIX 4G because it would show every incoming call as PAY PHONE but I re-added it a couple of weeks ago and I haven't had any problems. It doesn't display the name of the caller however, just the number.
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Then it is not working. That is Caller ID / Call Display. Name display is something completely different.
Caller ID (or Call Display): The network will display the phone number of phone calling you (unless it is a private number). Your phone will display the name of the individual if the number calling is stored in your contacts.
Name display (or CNAP): The network will display the phone number of the phone calling (unless it is a private number), as well as the name associated to that number, regardless of whether or not the information is stored in your contacts. It is network-driven, but your device needs support for it.

big samm said:
Question for the op. Where did you get your Galaxy Nexus? I know Rogers just received some maybe their model will work with Name display. I also have the service on my account , but still didn't get a call from someone not on my contact list... I will post here with my results!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I initially bought Virgin Gnex but name display didnt work so i sold it. Then i got it from Fido and name display didnt work, but i kept it and figured it out.
I beleive to make it work the file Gsmconnection.java as per my previous post has to be modified. However since im not that great of a coder i wouldnt be able to figure out how to do it.
If any coders could do a quick mod to enable cnap on Galaxy nexus - then it would be beneficial for everyone.
Another issue i see is the call log. Stock call log is not storing the name display in it. You can download dialer one and it will store the numbers. But it is glitching. Sometimes it just looses the name in call log and sometimes it keeps it. I have no idea why it acts like that. But i think its related to the stock call log because everytime i start it - it erases the "name id" stored on Dialer One.

Mine is also from bell but I'm using it on Rogers... I don't know nothing about rooting or anything so this is bad news for me! Name display works great on my bold 9900 and on my iPhone 4s, I would also like it to work on my Gnex !
Regardless it's still a killer device!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

anyone had any luck getting name display to work properly with galaxy nexus? Looking to switch from BB, but need name display for work voip

fr0z3n said:
anyone had any luck getting name display to work properly with galaxy nexus? Looking to switch from BB, but need name display for work voip
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I believe it will work if we get a kernel compiled with this commit: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,11168
We just need someone to build it for us.

efrant said:
We just need someone to build it for us.
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Hey, developers!! Can anyone do that? Create an application for AndroidMarket - I am ready to buy it!

congrey said:
Hey, developers!! Can anyone do that? Create an application for AndroidMarket - I am ready to buy it!
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Although i hope you are correct, I don't think that will work. I believe we will need a custom kernel.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

efrant said:
I believe we will need a custom kernel.
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May be...And nobody wants to help.......

Lets contribute towards development
im in for $100 to make it happen.
custom kernel and phone.apk or contacts.apk fix to make the name display show up not only when the person is calling but also to store it in the stock call log.

efrant said:
Then it is not working. That is Caller ID / Call Display. Name display is something completely different.
Caller ID (or Call Display): The network will display the phone number of phone calling you (unless it is a private number). Your phone will display the name of the individual if the number calling is stored in your contacts.
Name display (or CNAP): The network will display the phone number of the phone calling (unless it is a private number), as well as the name associated to that number, regardless of whether or not the information is stored in your contacts. It is network-driven, but your device needs support for it.
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So would you need to subscribe to CNAP to receive? Or would you still need to subscribe to Caller ID? I would love to drop the $8/month charge I pay for caller ID.

[Q] Sending "Private number" to voicemail

I would like to find a way to send incoming "Private number" calls to voicemail, without downloading an app (with the security risks involved with this, as all apps I found want to read phone #, all of my contacts, and have access to the internet).
In Googling I found that on other, older, phones you could create a contact with "Private number" in the mobile phone field and select the "All calls to voicemail". I tried this on my Galaxy Nexus running 4.0.4 and it doesn't seem to be working.
Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?
Or does anybody know an app that is not a security risk (i.e. does not request access to the internet and/or my phone and/or my contacts)?
BTW, these are the permissions that one of these Apps (this one called Calls Blacklist) is requesting:
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
RECEIVE SMS
READ SMS OR MMS
EDIT SMS OR MMS
NETWORK COMMUNICATION
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITY
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
MODIFY/DELETE USB STORAGE CONTENTS MODIFY/DELETE SD CARD CONTENTS
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
CHANGE WI-FI STATE
PREVENT TABLET FROM SLEEPING PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING
MODIFY GLOBAL SYSTEM SETTINGS
CHANGE/INTERCEPT NETWORK SETTINGS AND TRAFFIC
DISPLAY SYSTEM-LEVEL ALERTS

You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
That would be like me saying to you; "I'm sorry sir, you're not appropriately dressed for this restaurant." over the phone.
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.

Security risks? The app kinda needs that information. You're better off not installing any apps as any of them could steal your valuable phone number.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco

Liskrig said:
You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
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Duh, of course, it's not listed above as one of the unneeded permissions above.
But none of these are even remotely needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
EDIT SMS OR MMS
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Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.
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How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
Besides the fact that yet another app means yet another thing that can go wrong (battery drain, system instability, etc.)
Back to the original question: "Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?"

hillrider said:
Duh, of course!
But none of these are needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
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Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then. You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you. Ever thought of who could be hacking your Wi-fi? They could steal and intercept ANYTHING sent through your home internet.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco

theking_13 said:
Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then.
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None found, hence this thread.
A response to the OP, without flaming and personal attacks would be greatly appreciated.

theking_13 said:
... You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco
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+1

If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about) and switch to a Google Voice number, you can set it through the website settings that anonymous callers are directly routed to voicemail.

copkay said:
If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about)
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Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!
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and switch to a Google Voice number
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This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.[/QUOTE]
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...

hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Yeah, the replies haven't been particularly helpful so far. It's not "paranoid" to at least question the security of these apps, although the most popular ones are most likely fine.
You have a point with the non-Voice number. There's also the "no-turning-back" solution of porting your existing number to Google Voice for $20, which would then fix the problem, but it's not particularly ideal unless you're 100% sold on GV.

hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
I actually have 2 Google Voice numbers and my normal Verizon one (3 total). One for Personal, one for my side Website business, and my normal job.
I don't restrict any callers but there are options in there for unknowns and the likes. At least you can setup CALL SCREENING, where it asks for the persons name. So I can answer ANY call, it will say, "Call from... Donut Marketing" and it gives me 2 options, 1 to take the call... and 2 to send to VM.
If you press 2, it then says, "Ok I've sent the caller to VM. Press STAR at any time to join the call". So if the VM is someone I WANT to speak with, I just pop in and say Hi. Most Marketers will shy away from leaving their name... no name, no call. They typically hang up immediately. Still prevents me from having to talk to them and try to get off the phone.
Even when they do leave me a Google Voice Mail, it gets translated to text and emailed to me so I can read it seconds after they've left it. Then just delete like a normal email.
Super easy.
You can probably also call up your carrier and say you are getting lots of Marketing calls from Unknown numbers and want them blocked. They'll probably want to charge you a fee... but maybe not.

player911 said:
Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
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how did you get verizon to port your number without killing your contract? i just called and they said its not possible.

Root call blocker does this.

What is the best Caller ID app?

I've been using Current Caller ID and it is OK, the caller id is generally delayed so I don't know who it is until I hang up. I'm looking at Mr. Number and True Caller ID, but open to check out others if you have ones you like. Looking to know who is calling even if not currently on my phone.
Who do you like?

How many times in a day/week do people that are not in your contact list call you?

isajoo said:
How many times in a day/week do people that are not in your contact list call you?
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I'm using my phone for both personal and business use so I'd like to know if it is a business person I want to talk to or a telemarketer who I don't. I don't have a home phone so I'm getting a decent amount of solicitation via my cell phone.
Thank you,
Z

I use Mr. Number and don't mind it. I think it is really dependant on what you want it and need it for. Mr. Number always tells me when I have a spam or telemarketer calling me. I usually answer it, then wonder why I didn't listen to the software.

there are smart phone plans without caller id nowadays?!?!
consider my mind blown -_-....

hhwong said:
there are smart phone plans without caller id nowadays?!?!
consider my mind blown -_-....
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Caller Id will tell you the number that is calling but unless it is one of your contacts, that is the only information you can get from it.
There are advanced caller Id's that can tell you if it is a telemarketer or other. From work I'll get a lot of calls from unknown numbers, I'd like to know if it is important and needs to be picked up (business call) or if it is a telemarketer.

z-man79 said:
I've been using Current Caller ID and it is OK, the caller id is generally delayed so I don't know who it is until I hang up. I'm looking at Mr. Number and True Caller ID, but open to check out others if you have ones you like. Looking to know who is calling even if not currently on my phone.
Who do you like?
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Right now I'm looking for a replacement for Current Caller ID. It reduces battery life by waking up your phone when you are not using it and transmitting lots of data.
I just traced my battery drain to Current Caller ID. No response from their tech support.