This thread may end up locked as irrelevant and to that, I will not object but I have a few things that I must say to those in this community who have played a hand in the game that is may life.
I would ask of a moderator intent on locking this thread to allow it at least a few hours to be seen by any who may wish to publicly respond, although it seem unlikely that one would, and obviously this request is nothing more than a request and I will not feel discontent if my request is denied.
I have a great number of things that I thought I wanted to say to you all. All such things were negative until recently.
First of all I would like to say what I feel is important regardless of how comical this will be to the less honorable of you involved because I must say it:
I forgive you. Of my own free will I fully forgive any wrong doing done against me by any and all who participated.
Secondly: (and this part was even more difficult for me)
I thank you. While I feel as though I have (almost literally) been through hell and back again in the last eight to ten months I have come to the point where I can forgive the actions against me, which leaves me in such a state that I have no option but to thank everyone for all the things that can be seen as a silver lining.
Through the course of these events I feel I have learned things that I would never have even considered otherwise and as a result I feel I have grown in a way that will benefit me and anyone with whom I am associated. Although I know not what your intentions were, you have changed me in ways that I can call positive and for that...
Thank you.
I will overcome.
Oh my... I must thank you again already.
As soon I clicked submit a weight that cannot be measured was lifted from me and I honestly cannot say that anything I have ever experienced was as intense or liberating as this burden dissolving.
Although this may be Stockholm Syndrome, I have nothing but love for you, my captors, and hope to continue to grow in such ways.
I should also point out that while I have obviously been unable to stop you and probably remain powerless in this regard; you have no cause to continue... it will not affect me any longer and you will only harm yourselves.
PS
I have decided to burn all of the evidence that I have collected including some IP addresses and phone numbers that were not easy to obtain.
I will seek no vengeance.
Everything ok, bro?
If you need a person to talk to, hit me up.
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Everything ok, bro?
If you need a person to talk to, hit me up.
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For the first time in long time I can answer with an honest... yes. Everything is OK.
Thank you for asking.
I thought that storm had already passed a while back brother.
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Well, the offer still stands... :beer:
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I thought that storm had already passed a while back brother.
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I don't know that will ever end. I am tested everyday in ways that near break me every time and it almost cost me my humanity.
I think that someone has distorted and warped a sacred philosophy to the point where they no longer understand it....
"Do what though wilt"
Is only the one and true law if your will is not compromised by the sickness that is jealousy.
One's will is only divinely backed if one has no ill intent.
One's will cannot be stopped be if the outcome benefits all involved.
Let me find a quote from a more informed source. It can be summarized well by one smarter than myself.
and honestly, regardless of whether the storm had passed or if I temporarily rested safely in it's eye;
I had not yet forgiven so it all still existed in full effect insomuch as the way it affected me.
Forgive me but, what exactly did you do wrong?
"Give wings to your fancy, for fairer than any picture that you can paint with thought is the future that you can claim with will. Once you have imagined, once you have chosen, say, "I will." And there is nothing on earth that can hinder you for long: for you are immortal and the future is obedient to you.
You say death may stand in your way? It will not.
You say that poverty and sickness or friends and enemies obstruct your path? They certainly will not. Nothing can, unless you permit it.
But you must choose, and never again must you wish for anything for you need only say, " I will. " You must say it always in thought and in deed, not only in these words now.
And henceforth never for a moment must your purpose change, but your constant intention must turn everything you touch in line with it.
Then, if that which you have chosen is not harmful, it will be yours before long."
- Ernest Wood
IamFlynn said:
Forgive me but, what exactly did you do wrong?
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If that was knowledge I possessed; I would have had no issues.
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but whether or not it was your intention to, your question just made me realize what was missing from my post and I thank you for it.
I am sorry
I have always maintained the belief that I must have committed offense to warrant punishment but I have not yet ascertained my "crimes."
Regardless, I am sorry.
I think a better question would be, "What is provoking this thread?" or, "Can you enlighten us to the reasons behind what you are posting?"
To be completely honest, I am completely lost, and a bit worried.
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I think a better question would be, "What is provoking this thread?" or, "Can you enlighten us to the reasons behind what you are posting?"
To be completely honest, I am completely lost, and a bit worried.
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I'm with you on this.
What ever happened, or is happening, PhAkEer, some of us are lost on this. Not that it's any of my business, just an observation.
And as Gray offered, if you need to vent you can hit me up as well. My GTalk is the same name @ gmail :beer:
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I'm with you on this.
What ever happened, or is happening, PhAkEer, some of us are lost on this. Not that it's any of my business, just an observation.
And as Gray offered, if you need to vent you can hit me up as well. My GTalk is the same name @ gmail :beer:
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I'm sorry. I know it probably doesn't make much sense and I was very vague on purpose.
Trust when I say that its no longer important how or who and about all I'll say about the what is that: for quite some time a large few or small many have put a lot of effort into effing with my es and I think I nearly let my cheese slide off of my cracker a couple of times.
and thanks for the offer
(LMAO the funny part is that for a lot of the time a fresh point of view would have great but I had very bad luck trying to explain it and even worse luck getting help... so I think I just... gave up on asking )
Then again.. maybe some of the "What" does need to be discussed... because the modifications people were able to make on my phone were disturbing and maybe if I knew what information to provide we could tighten the security for everyone else so these hacks don't get any more out of control.
I have erased/burned most of the stuff that could have implicated anyone as a gesture of good will, but I think I did save some of the modified apps in a couple of backups.
Any thoughts on what I could upload that could be used?
An example that we could both benefit from and protect again malice :
Whoever was involved was able to permanently root my phone in param/.lfs to such a degree that even Sprint's technicians couldn't remove it.
It got to the point where they would just hand me another phone when I walked in... no fees or anything.
We don't know one another my friend, but through Christ I pray you'll be fine. And what doesn't destroy you can only make you stronger.
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I remember this. You were attacked via phone some time ago. I remember the thread that really started as a simple question and turned into you and others figuring out you had been hacked. Am I correct?
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I remember this. You were attacked via phone some time ago. I remember the thread that really started as a simple question and turned into you and others figuring out you had been hacked. Am I correct?
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I don't remember a thread quite like that. That does however sound like a combination of a couple threads, maybe?
The only thread I posted about me being hacked was an embarrassing fail in which I thought the situation was more serious...basically, I bit some deeply buried misimformation hook, line and sinker and thought that it was uncovered fact.
I would enjoy it all if it were a (b) movie I was watching.
This forum is probably a good place to ask: does anyone know anything about removing hacks that are coded into images stored on a protected partition?
Sorry that I don't know enough about hacking to identify specifics. It took me forever to even realize where they were and I have only ever been to modify /param/.lfs with the use of an application.
I don't mean to disrespect but you sound plain crazy bro. If you've been hacked and think that your identity is in jeopardy, contact the authorities and your bank. This kind of thing happens all the time and there resources available to prevent any harm being done.
That being said, you are an important person around here and have done a lot of amazing work. Thank you for that. I hope you can ease your mind because you are coming off as a little unwell.
Life is to short to have spent these last many months worrying about this. Go on a camping trip or something.
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I don't mean to disrespect but you sound plain crazy bro. If you've been hacked and think that your identity is in jeopardy, contact the authorities and your bank. This kind of thing happens all the time and there resources available to prevent any harm being done.
That being said, you are an important person around here and have done a lot of amazing work. Thank you for that. I hope you can ease your mind because you are coming off as a little unwell.
Life is to short to have spent these last many months worrying about this. Go on a camping trip or something.
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I don't understand? I mean no disrespect either, but I have no idea how anything I have said would make me sound "unwell" or "crazy."
I would not be offended by whatever clarity you give me there.
All I have said (basically) is that I have learned a lot and forgive malice because I have moved on.
If I were forced to describe that in a word, I would choose, "healthy."
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I don't understand? I mean no disrespect either, but I have no idea how anything I have said would make me sound "unwell" or "crazy."
I would not be offended by whatever clarity you give me there.
All I have said (basically) is that I have learned a lot and forgive malice because I have moved on.
If I were forced to describe that in a word, I would choose, "healthy."
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By that I basically just mean paranoid and kinda out there. Like you are spun.
Did someone here send you a file with a Trojan or something? How or why would somebody want to hack your phone?
Do you presume they are still an active member here and are reading this thread, and that is why you made it?
Like you said, it's vague. That's why it comes off a little odd, to me at least.
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Soo.... I have had android phones for about year. Now I have the epic and I love it a lot.., but I'm hearing about rooting and ROM'S and all this other stuff... What is it? And by doing these things will I damage my device.? I need to be clued in big time.
well before you get dinged for posting this let me try and give a link that may shed some light
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700
Well... that guide on what everything was helped a little bit but it was all kinda confusing seeing as I'm new to the terms and whatnot. It basically sounds dangerous though and if I accidentally "brick" my phone I am going to die what are the positives of rooting my phone? And also, why would I get dinged fo posting this???
Cuz is posted 1000 times and u need to do your homework and start reading starting with 1click root is your best bet. And don't be afraid this phone is almost impossible to brick like I said almost and good luck.
dito33
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And also, why would I get dinged fo posting this???
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Because technically this is supposed to be a developers board. They want you to learn the basics elsewhere and come here to develop new software.
And also we have people asking "what are root and roms" pretty much every other day. And then new people come and don't bother to read the threads that already answer their questions or use the search to find answers. Instead, they expect someone to start giving them the answers from scratch all over again.
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if I accidentally "brick" my phone I am going to die
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If you can't afford to be without your phone for a day or can't afford to replace the phone if it becomes damaged, then do NOT mess with it.
Most circumstances all this is harmless/recoverable, but if the phone is a necessity (or not yours, ie parents), I wouldn't mess with it.
The only thing more annoying that seeing 50 post threads consisting of 48 people commenting on "wrong section" is threads from people that just messed up their parents phone and -now- it's an emergency.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067
That should cover pretty much everything you need to know to get started and research stuff on your own.
Ummm thanks to everyone? I appreciate the advice and I'll try to figure this out. I'm just a newbie here (obviously) and I didn't know the ropes about how to find out "basic" info... Thanks for the links that were posted as well. Also, for the person who said something about this being my parents phone...? This is my phone.... and I paid a lot to get it and I don't want to damage it
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Ohh... and also I just believe I'm going to leave my phone as it is... I don't see the positive benefits of rooting it. Plus I don't want to damage anything
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That's probably a good idea. You shouldn't make any major changes to your phone if you don't understand what you are changing.
Oh yeah, no benefits whatsoever
WHY SHOULD I ROOT MY PHONE?
Rooting offers several great things including, but certainly not limited to, access to hidden features, total customization, better battery life, and overclocking. It gives you control over the device that you paid money for in the first place. The devs here are great at finding features that the manufacturers left out or disabled and making them work.
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Oh yeah, no benefits whatsoever
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Lol... that sounds cool and whatnot but in the end, I just not that technologically wise.. but I do appreciate the people who are if I knew as much as them, i'd probably try the whole rooting thing
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STOP RUSHING ME AND LET ME DO WHAT I NEED TO DO. I have school you know. This is my last full week that I have to see my friends and other things like that, then it's off to exams. If you were on my end, You'd see how busy I am. AND if he had a facebook, I hacked my friend's KIN as well. So guys please stop rushing me. It is starting to make me mad. Ever since I had said something you guys have been up my @ßß. If you wish not to end up in the current state I'm on (which is possibly a brick waiting for a phone to come tomorrow) then I suggest you wait. @johnkussiack, please come in feel free to comment leave your opinions but tell these guys how hard it is to hack a phone successfully. I would hate to see you guys end up with a brick, and I would feel responsible. Let me do what needs to be done. I'll upload screenshots and what I've done, Give me time.
All the best,
Kinuser1
(Tyler Jones)
just upload the guide honestly & let the users choose for themselves weather or not they want a brick. I got a year warranty so I will return it till im blue in the face. What did you expect when you first stated that you found a way into the Kin & made the announcement?
I mean come on Yes We know you had a death in your family and stated that it would take you a week to write a simple guide. The problem I see is this you spoke up first & then you expect people to wait patiently which in all seriousness no offense was a stupid thought in your head because its not going to happen.
All Im waiting for is the guide once thats in place I will choose for myself weather or not I will chance a brick to hack or screw around in my phone. No offense but its the truth. I wouldnt of said anything till I had a guide or the time personally.
Kid, (way older), i'm not playing devil's advocate here.
While it's true that hacking something is complicated, I'm with 4LC4PON3 this time. Being a big thing (or not), you cannot shout it to the winds and then go back to a cave.
Test it, do it, ensure it, then tell.
My app could be released atm, but of course would do crap things, yet i assured that it works even if i press Conn+Disconn 30 times. Ever post without being sure of what you do and what will you do next.
To be truthful with you guys, the screenshot was a fake, EXCEPT THE RECENT BOX AND TIME BOX, I edited those so they shade until you click them. I wanted you guys to lay off me for awhile. But I promise, I did not pull your chain guys, I hate when people do that, trust me, I had the enV touch and someone said they had android on the phone but it was a fake. The guy took a picture from google and pasted on the phone. So I left the facebook group because people were flaming me. Well guys later.
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To be truthful with you guys, the screenshot was a fake, EXCEPT THE RECENT BOX AND TIME BOX, I edited those so they shade until you click them. I wanted you guys to lay off me for awhile. But I promise, I did not pull your chain guys, I hate when people do that, trust me, I had the enV touch and someone said they had android on the phone but it was a fake. The guy took a picture from google and pasted on the phone. So I left the facebook group because people were flaming me. Well guys later.
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No offence but you sound so...not smart right know. I dont want to make fun of you and then come to find out you have the guide, but just like John said, Test it, do it, ensure it, then tell.
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Here i stopped having any interest. As i told ya, post or don't post, but no teasers.
You can do small things, you can asure people that you got access to the phone, you can say that you did but you dont know what to do with it.
But never.... ever!! fake things. Now every post that you text, every image that you upload... will have the "Suspicius fake?" mark above it, even if this time is real.
Also, you were flamed in the group with reasons. You posted in a cocky mood about "recording your face when you see it", and then you say that some pictures were fake. That's flame fuel.
PS: btw, my nick doesnt have any "i" character. It's like the actor, but with "K". Just cause i saw it twice by now.
My problem is this. Like I said I understood you had a death in your family but you have a cocky attitude for one got on my nerves, You Faked the photo which I already had doubts on anyways.
What got me is this you said that you have been having problems with your phone for sometime now even before you started hacking into it. Then all of a sudden your phone doesnt turn on correctly you blamed it on the "So Called Hacks"
Prior to this you made a statement that you didnt want help because you didnt want people "stealing your work"
If you do have access to the phone put up the guide even if you did screw your phone up Ok but you cant claim something then never do it. We are Adults here not children it is our choice weather or not we want to attempt the job or not. There are smart users here that you & we can benefit from to get it done faster.
It doesnt take that long to write a simple guide. Either in my opinion A You are just B.S & trying to make yourself sound important or Your just lazy & cant write a 30 minute Tutorial.
Side Note You stated on Facebook when I got mad you said Do you want me to make a video showing proof?. If you can take time to make a video you can easily make time to write the tutorial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gblaKaQ_2Qc
Watch then leave me be and start getting busy.
Sigh... This last post is an offense to all of us who have a real bricked kin.
It is not bricked like I said, IT IS BROKE
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I'm actually not sure if it is bricked because it wont turn on
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I'm actually not sure if it is bricked because it wont turn on
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POST THE DAMN GUIDE AND STOP WHINING ABOUT THE STUPID BRICK, IT SEEMS LIKE THE PHONE WAS YOUR TYPING HANDS BECAUSE IT REALLY EFFECTED YOU BEING ABLE TO TYPE THE GUIDE!
Thanks
Wow. some people here need to CALM DOWN. Give the guy a break. If he is in possession of useful information, name calling and what not is not going to help. If he isn't, name calling and what not is not going to help. While I think it would reflect poorly on him if he has been falsely leading people on, I for one take any 'breaking' news here with a grain of salt. I'll believe it when I see the proof, and until then, I'm not going to get all bent out of shape about it.
I'm somewhat hopeful for what JohnKussack's discoveries may hold, and mainly because he has actually been able to demonstrate what he has discovered.
@soninja8 I am going to say this for the last and final time.
STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. Are you the one who found out? NO!
Let me do what I need to do and shutup
@Marcellus1 thank you for understanding
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@soninja8 I am going to say this for the last and final time.
STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. Are you the one who found out? NO!
Let me do what I need to do and shutup
@Marcellus1 thank you for understanding
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Im just not understanding why the guide cant be posted thats all. I understand that your busy and all, but you seem to have enough time posting videos of your phone not working and talking about random things...
edit cause im tired of his drama
where do you get it?
Thanks for doing some little thread necromancy, but i think that this dead horse should not be beaten (again).
Okay guys, after the ridiculous debacle today, those of us who frequent the IRC channels decided that it was time for a change.
For most of the day, that change was moving to a new channel. However, after some talking a few of us actually got cnz(RoadRAGEN) to listen to reason. He's turned over control of the room to an unbiased bot and gave a number of us operator passwords. To top it off, he's agreed to stay off the op list unless absolutely necessary (he won't be raging out anymore, he has his own private channel for that now). The rest of us can sign into the bot and get ops so we can keep peace and order if needed. Otherwise, the only people who get automatic ops are the bots and no one else.
Okay, first the one and only new rule. No more posting logs on xda. the moderators are probably sick of it by now and it accomplishes nothing besides starting fights. if you do post logs and we catch you, you'll get banned until you take it down. To make it worse, we don't stop cnz from doing it himself. It's counterproductive and stupid.
Lastly, cnz(RoadRAGEN) said he will dial it down inside the channel and around here. He had a talk with the moderators today and we had a talk with him in the channel. XDA didn't ban him and neither will we. It was talked about for a minute...but he banned me first...it was a fiasco. BUT, it's fixed now.
Now before you get all apprehensive, remember that despite cnz being a complete douchebag who often forgets what "crossed the line" means, he's still one of our most talented developers and has contributed a lot to this young community. Every rom up in here either directly uses his original updater script, uses a heavily modded version or pieces of it. Yes, sometimes he's incredibly insensitive and no one in their right minds would defend his personality or his actions (especially today), but he understands what happened here today and knows that doing it again is stupid.
It's all about the Android so you can come out from under your beds, the boogieman isn't also the doorman anymore.
If you're still angry about the incident, it's understandable. But remember, like xda, irc is a community and in no way do the actions today represent the community as a whole. It was as a community that we discussed the problem and it was a community that we dealt with it. So don't think this decision was made lightly.
If you don't agree, please keep the flaming to yourself. We don't need another out of control thread about IRC around here.
So this means my +q will be taken off?
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So this means my +q will be taken off?
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Yes, but it might take a minute, we're still kinda learning how to operate under the "bot is god" paradigm.
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nevermind we already lifted all the bans and stuff. all's well. clean slate.
I would love to learn how to dev and step up but have been avoiding irc due to this situation.
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I dont know what the back story is here and quite frankly I dont care.
What happens on an IRC channel outside of XDA does not belong here.
If theres drama off site, keep it off site.
Simple no?
Thank you mods. U know why.
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I dont know what the back story is here and quite frankly I dont care.
What happens on an IRC channel outside of XDA does not belong here.
If theres drama off site, keep it off site.
Simple no?
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Perhaps I should point out that my question was rhetorical.
It's as simple as this.
IRC is not XDA...
DO NOT bring IRC related drama to XDA...
It really doesn't get much simpler than that does it?
(again, rhetorical question)
It's very simple...that's why there's no drama in this thread
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It's very simple...that's why there's no drama in this thread
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Not since I deleted the 15 posts of crap there isn't....
I'm out before this headache gets any worse....
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Not since I deleted the 15 posts of crap there isn't....
I'm out before this headache gets any worse....
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I seem to have missed all that, so I guess I'm the ignorant party at the moment. I really don't think the changes made or this thread should be held responsible for the unwieldy comments of others, though. I've been nothing but civil in all this
But I don't blame you, though. I can't imagine people are going quietly into that good night and I'm sure I've been getting my fair share of the flames as well for trying to mediate all this nonsense.
I wasn't pointing the blame in any particular direction.
Just making sure everyone is on the same page.
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I wasn't pointing the blame in any particular direction.
Just making sure everyone is on the same page.
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Of course not, I didn't mean to insinuate that lol.
When I went to bed last night everyone was on the same page, but I got a bunch of PMs saying I was "flamed by some noob" and the thread/posts are gone (I guess that was your doing lol, thank you). I was just saying the angry words of a few don't represent the opinions of the rest of us.
People have their opinions. That's not illegal yet, so I'm not offended. However, if my name is eventually going to be Mudd, then I'll probably end up ceasing my attempts to help out and go back to my little corner to make roms again
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Of course not, I didn't mean to insinuate that lol.
When I went to bed last night everyone was on the same page, but I got a bunch of PMs saying I was "flamed by some noob" and the thread/posts are gone (I guess that was your doing lol, thank you). I was just saying the angry words of a few don't represent the opinions of the rest of us.
People have their opinions. That's not illegal yet, so I'm not offended. However, if my name is eventually going to be Mudd, then I'll probably end up ceasing my attempts to help out and go back to my little corner to make roms again
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Seems like we're back on track here
Dont hesitate to give me a shout if anything crops up though.
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Seems like we're back on track here
Dont hesitate to give me a shout if anything crops up though.
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Will do, although based on empirical evidence, you'll probably hear about it long before I will lol.
Thanks absolutezero. I haven't been on irc in a while. Honestly just forgot about it. What are the best times to go on?
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Thanks absolutezero. I haven't been on irc in a while. Honestly just forgot about it. What are the best times to go on?
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
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lol whenever, the only real dead times are between 5am and 9am
I think it's funny that I posted "Uh oh..." and it got deleted.
Drama is as drama does.
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lol whenever, the only real dead times are between 5am and 9am
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Thanks. That's what I was wondering when the dead times are.
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Hey guys just fyi, I'm not associated with the channel anymore. After nearly a dozen PMs in IRC and almost another dozen on here about how I'm a hate monger and a jerk off, I've decided that it's not worth it and I've had enough.
To all of you who PMed me with negative things, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
To those of you who appreciated the efforts, sorry I couldn't do more.
Being ostracized because I refuse to bend to Mob Rule just feels wrong to me, but that's what is happening. Apparently I was being offensive by treating everyone with equal respect without discrimination and not being an anti-cnz hate monger like everyone else.
It sucks, I liked that irc channel, but there's capable people running it still. I won't be going back. I'm tired of being nearly constantly flamed for trying to be fair and helpful.
*sigh* I feel better now. Peace guys.
Hello again everyone. It has been a long few months. I had hoped that I would be back in the community by now but some things have been keeping me back. My mother has been having medical issues for a while now and I have been going through some desperate financial times. This was going on while I was active also I just didn't say anything. And I am embarrassed and hate that I have to do this now.
Well here it is. I need $50,000 to save my home. So I am asking that if you can spare anything to please send it to my paypal [email protected]. I am not into the social media thing so if you can spread the word to friends and family I would greatly appreciate it. If I don't get enough to save my home I will return all of the money. If you prefer to loan the money to me I will work as hard as possible to pay it back as quickly as I can. Just send me an email so we can work out the details.
I am really sorry for coming at you all like this but I don't know what else to do. If this is breaking the forum rules I deeply apologize and hope that you can understand my circumstances.
On a better note, I hope to have a computer setup in the next week or two. I see ALOT of things have changed since I have been out, and it might take a little bit to get back into the swing of things, but hope to be contributing again soon.
Thank you all for everything that you do.
Sincerely,
crawrj
Theres 10 bucks to get you started need another 5,000 people I guess
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Theres 10 bucks to get you started need another 5,000 people I guess
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Thank you very much. And that is 4,999
Sorry to hear things are so rough dude. Hope everything works out for ya, and I'll see if I have anything to spare in PayPal. Good luck man
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Thank you for the kind words and support.
At first I thought this was a joke.
Unfortunately, I realized it wasn't. It may or may not be against "forum" rules, but it's definitely against "things that are done" rules. Seriously, coming onto a smartphone forum/community and hitting the public up for 50 THOUSAND dollars???
Wow.. I don't really know what to say. I guess this may be the only way to explain it:
This week, I'm moving into a MUCH smaller home, because I seriously fell behind on my house note, and yes, the bank repossessed it, and it sucks, and it is happening all over the place. I did my best to come up with the shortage (the bank wanted the full amount, so it was more than 50k), but finally, I accepted my fate and am trying to get through a tough situation by dealing with the things I can control, and disregarding the things I cannot. However, throughout the last ~4 months I tried to save the house, not ONCE did the thought ever even enter my brain that it'd be an OK idea to come on XDA (or any social site for that matter) and flat-out ask other people to give me THEIR money so I could solve MY problem. I just don't get that at all.
Look, I'm sorry you're having a rough time: I really am....
But this isn't the place to ask for financial aid. Man up and deal with it the best you can, and keep the talk around here about Android, and Roms, and ICS, and yadayadayada.... That's what it's meant for, nothing else.
Just my 2 cents.
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At first I thought this was a joke.
Unfortunately, I realized it wasn't. It may or may not be against "forum" rules, but it's definitely against "things that are done" rules. Seriously, coming onto a smartphone forum/community and hitting the public up for 50 THOUSAND dollars???
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He didn't ask for 50,000 dollars. He said that was what he needed to save his house. If it was someone else, any of the contributors in this community I would have not even given it a thought. But given the amount of time he has spent here and the things that he has done I could stand to give a couple bucks. I can already tell you the likely hood of making the amount in donations from people who have used his work or been helped by him is not going to happen. That doesn't mean the freeloaders can't chip in.
If people want to help out someone who has spent time helping make the E4GT community (and much further back) what it is then they can feel free to donate. If it is seen as something against the rules the moderators will deal with it as well.
I need $30,000 to pay off my student loans and another $7,000 to pay off my car! Please donate to me
Anyways sorry to hear about your bad luck. Hopefully things will work them selves out.
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I'm so sorry to hear about your mom's illness and hope she is on the mend and feel for you with your financial issues.
Have you checked into the programs available to homeowners to help with mortgage issues? I don't own a home so I'm not intimately familiar with them but perhaps your lender could point you in the right direction or maybe you could find something via Google.
I hope your situation improves soon. If I find out anything that might assist you I'll pass it along and will keep you and your family in my thoughts.
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At first I thought this was a joke.
Unfortunately, I realized it wasn't. It may or may not be against "forum" rules, but it's definitely against "things that are done" rules. Seriously, coming onto a smartphone forum/community and hitting the public up for 50 THOUSAND dollars???
Wow.. I don't really know what to say. I guess this may be the only way to explain it:
This week, I'm moving into a MUCH smaller home, because I seriously fell behind on my house note, and yes, the bank repossessed it, and it sucks, and it is happening all over the place. I did my best to come up with the shortage (the bank wanted the full amount, so it was more than 50k), but finally, I accepted my fate and am trying to get through a tough situation by dealing with the things I can control, and disregarding the things I cannot. However, throughout the last ~4 months I tried to save the house, not ONCE did the thought ever even enter my brain that it'd be an OK idea to come on XDA (or any social site for that matter) and flat-out ask other people to give me THEIR money so I could solve MY problem. I just don't get that at all.
Look, I'm sorry you're having a rough time: I really am....
But this isn't the place to ask for financial aid. Man up and deal with it the best you can, and keep the talk around here about Android, and Roms, and ICS, and yadayadayada.... That's what it's meant for, nothing else.
Just my 2 cents.
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I am terribly sorry that you had to go through that and certainly understand your opinion on the matter. I would gladly "man up" if it were only about me. But I have children to consider and I am trying my best to keep them from being impacted by this. And I will do whatever I can to keep that from happening. To me that is "manning up" but that is just my opinion. And maybe you have kids also. I am only stating where I am coming from. Trust me, I don't like this any more than you do. Plus I am not asking for a handout. If someone is capable of loaning me the money I am more than happy to pay it back. So if this offends you or you just simply don't want anything to do with it then please just ignore it. Negative comments aren't necessary.
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I am sorry for what you are going through right now I completely understand and If I could help you out I would. I have only been in the E4GT forums for a few days and from the looks of it you are one of the most well respected people here. I really hope that things start looking up for you. It takes a REAL MAN to admit that you need help, and for that I applaud you.
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I'm so sorry to hear about your mom's illness and hope she is on the mend and feel for you with your financial issues.
Have you checked into the programs available to homeowners to help with mortgage issues? I don't own a home so I'm not intimately familiar with them but perhaps your lender could point you in the right direction or maybe you could find something via Google.
I hope your situation improves soon. If I find out anything that might assist you I'll pass it along and will keep you and your family in my thoughts.
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Thank you very much. Yes I have exhausted every option.
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I am sorry for what you are going through right now I completely understand and If I could help you out I would. I have only been in the E4GT forums for a few days and from the looks of it you are one of the most well respected people here. I really hope that things start looking up for you. It takes a REAL MAN to admit that you need help, and for that I applaud you.
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Thank you.
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I'm really sorry to hear about your financial troubles, and I hope everything takes a turn for the positive for you and your family. I do agree that this is most definitely not the place to be coming to for help like this but you know something? I would do the exact same thing if I was in your shoes so f*ck 'em. It takes a real man to swallow his pride and ask for help especially among your peers that have as much respect for you as this forum does. It shows that you are humble and will do what you can to take care of your family, even it just means asking a bunch of anonymous internetters for a little help. Unfortunately, all I can offer you are these words, so I wish you the best of luck and again I hope things turn around for you.
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I am terribly sorry that you...... anything to do with it then please just ignore it. Negative comments aren't necessary.
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Okay, fair enough. Maybe I was just venting my frustration over losing almost 10 years of equity.. I DO know what you're going through though... If you do come to the realization that the mortgage isn't going to be extended, and it does go in to repossession, I CAN give you a lot of good advice on how to still occupy the home for a lot longer than you might think. The bank will make it sound like they're gonna kick you out on the street. They can't do that, if you take advantage of a few laws that they must abide by. You can do all this without a lawyer, if you'd like more details, pm me. (For example, my house was sold back to the bank in November, but for a while, it looked like they were going to allow me to reinstate my mortgage.. That didn't end up happening, and I'm moving this week, but it's been almost 7 months since the house was actually repossessed, and STILL not one person from the bank has demanded that we leave.. That's a lot of time to get a new head start, even if you can't save your home... Like I said, PM me if you need that kind of advice.
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I'm really sorry to hear about your financial troubles, and I hope everything takes a turn for the positive for you and your family. I do agree that this is most definitely not the place to be coming to for help like this but you know something? I would do the exact same thing if I was in your shoes so f*ck 'em. It takes a real man to swallow his pride and ask for help especially among your peers that have as much respect for you as this forum does. It shows that you are humble and will do what you can to take care of your family, even it just means asking a bunch of anonymous internetters for a little help. Unfortunately, all I can offer you are these words, so I wish you the best of luck and again I hope things turn around for you.
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Thank you. It is appreciated.
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Okay, fair enough. Maybe I was just venting my frustration over losing almost 10 years of equity.. I DO know what you're going through though... If you do come to the realization that the mortgage isn't going to be extended, and it does go in to repossession, I CAN give you a lot of good advice on how to still occupy the home for a lot longer than you might think. The bank will make it sound like they're gonna kick you out on the street. They can't do that, if you take advantage of a few laws that they must abide by. You can do all this without a lawyer, if you'd like more details, pm me. (For example, my house was sold back to the bank in November, but for a while, it looked like they were going to allow me to reinstate my mortgage.. That didn't end up happening, and I'm moving this week, but it's been almost 7 months since the house was actually repossessed, and STILL not one person from the bank has demanded that we leave.. That's a lot of time to get a new head start, even if you can't save your home... Like I said, PM me if you need that kind of advice.
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I certainly understand and appreciate the help. I will definitely take you up on that offer if it comes down to that.
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I am very sorry to hear. I wish I could just up and email you saying here is the $50000.00. You have done a lot for this community. If I can come acorss anything I will help, but unfortunatly my finances are strapped due to not getting my full commission.
I hope everything goes well and I keep youand your mom in my prayers.
Thank you for everything you have contributed.
Not to sound like a d-bag, but if your in such dire straits why are you worrying about getting a computer and deving? That sound like you have your priorities all wrong. You shouldn't be worrying about a computer at all unless it makes you money in some way or fashion. I do appreciate all the work you've done for us but really you should get all this sorted before you even think about contributing again.
Just my two cents.
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I say screw all the naysayers. The fact that you're coming out to the community for help just shows how desperate situations may be. I'm not in the best of positions right now myself, but next Friday (pay day) I'll chip in. Even if it's $10, I'm sure you can use it more than I would. Good luck and I wish you well.
Why's everyone rude here? Developers of ROMs don't spend hours of hard work just to be dissed. Yo. They do it because its something they mildly enjoy/want to do and wanna contribute. Being rude makes them want to not do this for us. You all can feel free to learn C, Java, C++ and the Linux command line and make us a flawless build. Although most of us aren't really capable of this. Myself included. So next time you wanna complain because something doesn't work, remember, they have lives too. Bug reports are fine, just be respectful! You all watched the noob video, right?
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There's a noob video? Missed that one, gonna go watch it lol :thumbup:
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What I really love is when someone fubars their device because they don't even belong trying to modify them and then they get upset noone can help because their lack of reading directions/warnings has left them with a brick.
This site should be pay-for-use for non devs, that would eliminate a major amount of 1 time posters and all trolls.
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This site should be pay-for-use for non devs, that would eliminate a major amount of 1 time posters and all trolls.
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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I did love it, but not anymore, its been driven out of me by countless insults and utter stupidity that seems to occur constantly. I know its your opinion "some" are to sensitive, but its a personal work I'm sharing, having someone pm me that its an utter waste of time to flash because its a broken pile of....etc is a very personal insult and I see no reason to continue when I get responses like that for my time and effort.
Also, I'm not required to share anything I do, hell I can go pay per build if I feel like it. I did this because people wanted it, and I could provide it, that's all.
Its not making me stop doing something I love, it made me stop loving what I do.
I'm not sure if you dev or not, but really, until you deal with it yourself, you don't really understand where we come from. Some say go f yourselves, others just vanish, and then there's some like me that despite being burned out keep trying make the community happy (and mostly succeeding) and just get to a point where its not worth the insults anymore.
Also I'm sure there are a lot more devs that have been doing this longer then a few months and are maybe used to it.
I don't even own an a100 so its not like I just happened to have made something and shared it, I built it just for the community, I'll never run it myself.
Call it pathetic if you wish, but in my opinion you dunno what you're talking about.
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I did love it, but not anymore, its been driven out of me by countless insults and utter stupidity that seems to occur constantly. I know its your opinion "some" are to sensitive, but its a personal work I'm sharing, having someone pm me that its an utter waste of time to flash because its a broken pile of....etc is a very personal insult and I see no reason to continue when I get responses like that for my time and effort.
Also, I'm not required to share anything I do, hell I can go pay per build if I feel like it. I did this because people wanted it, and I could provide it, that's all.
Its not making me stop doing something I love, it made me stop loving what I do.
I'm not sure if you dev or not, but really, until you deal with it yourself, you don't really understand where we come from. Some say go f yourselves, others just vanish, and then there's some like me that despite being burned out keep trying make the community happy (and mostly succeeding) and just get to a point where its not worth the insults anymore.
Also I'm sure there are a lot more devs that have been doing this longer then a few months and are maybe used to it.
I don't even own an a100 so its not like I just happened to have made something and shared it, I built it just for the community, I'll never run it myself.
Call it pathetic if you wish, but in my opinion you dunno what you're talking about.
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I go through this almost every day actually. Maybe not making ROMs or developing programs for phones, but I have unruly people who comment and criticize my work all day long. It all goes in one ear and out the other because I know that some people are just like that and aren't thankful. I also know that I am good at what I do and that over the past few years I have pleased A LOT more people than I've disgruntled. I guess it has a lot to do with how different people cope with different things. With me, logic trumps emotion and it's very hard for me to take someone saying " your work sucks and you're a [email protected]" seriously lol. If someone pmed me and said my ROM is "an utter waste of time to flash and its broken," guess what? There's a delete button or I would just ignore it. There's going to be people like this no matter what field of work you're in.
I may not be a dev, but I do know how you feel. Alas, I'd like to say that I personally appreciate and respect you and every other dev here. They do great work for free most of the time and I honestly have no place to complain and neither do these other people. However, they shouldn't be discouraged and want to quit. Whatever happened to the "sticks and stones" rule?
Pay per build? That sounds great and I don't know why no one is doing this. If I were a dev I'd be all over making money for my hard work. Hell, I'd pay for a good ROM. It's totally worth it. But then again, it would be hard to regulate because there would need to be refunds given and stuff like that if people aren't happy lol you just never win as a dev, do you?
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I go through this almost every day actually. Maybe not making ROMs or developing programs for phones, but I have unruly people who comment and criticize my work all day long. It all goes in one ear and out the other because I know that some people are just like that and aren't thankful. I also know that I am good at what I do and that over the past few years I have pleased A LOT more people than I've disgruntled. I guess it has a lot to do with how different people cope with different things. With me, logic trumps emotion and it's very hard for me to take someone saying " your work sucks and you're a [email protected]" seriously lol. If someone pmed me and said my ROM is "an utter waste of time to flash and its broken," guess what? There's a delete button or I would just ignore it. There's going to be people like this no matter what field of work you're in.
I may not be a dev, but I do know how you feel. Alas, I'd like to say that I personally appreciate and respect you and every other dev here. They do great work for free most of the time and I honestly have no place to complain and neither do these other people. However, they shouldn't be discouraged and want to quit. Whatever happened to the "sticks and stones" rule?
Pay per build? That sounds great and I don't know why no one is doing this. If I were a dev I'd be all over making money for my hard work. Hell, I'd pay for a good ROM. It's totally worth it. But then again, it would be hard to regulate because there would need to be refunds given and stuff like that if people aren't happy lol you just never win as a dev, do you?
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Yes sadly everyone does want something different from any ROM, one will never satisfy all.
Not to get personal but what do you do for work that would subject you to that kind of...feedback? And I just noticed haole lol. Not sure if its what I'm thinking, but I was born in Hawaii, I'm hapa.
Anyways as I said I take it all quite personally, especially now as it was basically a favor for someone who asked me to come back.
That said, on topic again, some people just don't understand the amount of work involved and how calling it trash (this is quite edited ofc) is almost the same a calling me the same thing. They also don't care about the time it takes and just expect it to be given to them, or demand features or additions without considering it may be past the dev's abilities or desire to even do it. It comes down to they think they're entitled to it, when and how they want it, but seen willing to learn to do it themselves.
Also the whole internet mentality of its a screen name, not a person. Insulting pio_masaki isn't the same as standing in front of me and saying the same thing. I disagree with this mentality and prefer to consider it a person, not a screen name. Strangely I'm perfectly fine ignoring some a hole insulting me in person, yet take it personally about a ROM lol.
And pay per build would be quite difficult to implement, especially because it would need tailored per user, the time wouldn't be worth the cost to me, or the cost wouldn't be worth it for the user, I mean figure $10 an hour to build a ROM to be worth my time. User wants a cm10, tablet ui, memory bar added. Takes me 6 hours to implement the changes, sync, build. Would you pay $60 for a ROM for an a100? Not likely. I don't mean you personally, but the average user. They'll just use B1 instead lol. Maybe if I came and installed it for you or something lol
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Felt my rant belonged here. And a note on it, this is not aimed at A100 users, but everywhere on XDA.
Civatio-Retired
Pio-Retired
Linuxsociety-Retired
Waydownsouth-MIA/Retired
These were the major players when it came to ROM development on the A100.
And the general public has annoyed/angered most of them to the point of retirement or quitting.
What is wrong with people today?
I used to love chatting on forums with random people with common interests. Than I came to XDA. I'm not talking to anyone specific here OK, but in general, I've never met a mass gathering of people with common interest that act so hateful, childish, ungrateful, and reduce themselves to petty squabbles on a nearly hourly basis. And I am guilty of these acts of well. We all just need to step back in most situations and ask ourselves can I do this? or aren't I hear to learn and help?
I guess there's no point to my rant...
Looks like it's time to teach myself how to atleast update source.
I'm not talking about an expensive fee, ever $5 per year would be enough to keep the trolls away, Many years ago people said they'd never pay for torrent sites no look at the state of torrenting. Newsgroups are flourishing while free torrent sites are few and far between and their content is lackluster at best.
I would also be up for allowing devs to have ban powers in their own build threads. These guys do a service 99.9999% of us can't do, they do it for free and they get abuse for it. Keep your device stock if you can't act like an adult for one, and don't modify your device if you are unable to handle the real possibility of it going horribly wrong.
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Felt my rant belonged here. And a note on it, this is not aimed at A100 users, but everywhere on XDA.
Civatio-Retired
Pio-Retired
Linuxsociety-Retired
Waydownsouth-MIA/Retired
These were the major players when it came to ROM development on the A100.
And the general public has annoyed/angered most of them to the point of retirement or quitting.
What is wrong with people today?
I used to love chatting on forums with random people with common interests. Than I came to XDA. I'm not talking to anyone specific here OK, but in general, I've never met a mass gathering of people with common interest that act so hateful, childish, ungrateful, and reduce themselves to petty squabbles on a nearly hourly basis. And I am guilty of these acts of well. We all just need to step back in most situations and ask ourselves can I do this? or aren't I hear to learn and help?
I guess there's no point to my rant...
Looks like it's time to teach myself how to atleast update source.
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heh, people,EVERYWHERE are having issues...its like common descency and respect are things of the past..im a college adjunct proffesor and see some reall asshatery ...end of my rant...sorta..for those who do the hard work,much respect,..take what people say with a grain of salt..
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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Depends on the individual...I completely agree with this. It's just been my personality since I was young (grew up in Brooklyn, NY...you NEED tough skin there). If I'm doing something and one or two don't like it, oh well, I know there's almost 1,000 (in this case a **** load of people!) who do! But oh well...everyone is different...I would find more satisfaction in the fact i'm contributing to the longevity of a device and others are using MY **** somewhere in this world and enjoying it.
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Depends on the individual...I completely agree with this. It's just been my personality since I was young (grew up in Brooklyn, NY...you NEED tough skin there). If I'm doing something and one or two don't like it, oh well, I know there's almost 1,000 (in this case a **** load of people!) who do! But oh well...everyone is different...I would find more satisfaction in the fact i'm contributing to the longevity of a device and others are using MY **** somewhere in this world and enjoying it.
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I've come across a random guy at a McDonald's using my ROM before lol
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I've come across a random guy at a McDonald's using my ROM before lol
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That's awesome! Must've been a great feeling....
I've never meant anyone with anything I've ever made
That is cool as hell though!
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I try to be kind as possible, I would imagine how all the negative insults would add up and get annoying after a while. I am pretty young and only know enough to use things you devs make and post on here and that's only because i follow directions.But I would like to learn all this stuff and become a dev. Its gotta be pretty cool knowing you make things that hundreds of people use daily
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I try to be kind as possible, I would imagine how all the negative insults would add up and get annoying after a while. I am pretty young and only know enough to use things you devs make and post on here and that's only because i follow directions.But I would like to learn all this stuff and become a dev. Its gotta be pretty cool knowing you make things that hundreds of people use daily
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Just over a hundred on the a100, just over a thousand on the thrive. My last cm10 is over 1020 downloads now. I should charge per download lol
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Just over a hundred on the a100, just over a thousand on the thrive. My last cm10 is over 1020 downloads now. I should charge per download lol
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If you charged per download not as much people would keep downloading every build you put out. I've used almost every single one of the builds you put out, the only other persons ROMs I have used is civato. And if you charged per download I know I wouldn't nearly use as much of your builds as I have. I would only download one of your builds every once in a while, and I don't even know how I would pay you since I don't even have a credit card or debit card or whatever you use to pay online. But if you could manage to keep the amount of downloads you have now while making people pay you would make a lot of money!
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If you charged per download not as much people would keep downloading every build you put out. I've used almost every single one of the builds you put out, the only other persons ROMs I have used is civato. And if you charged per download I know I wouldn't nearly use as much of your builds as I have. I would only download one of your builds every once in a while, and I don't even know how I would pay you since I don't even have a credit card or debit card or whatever you use to pay online. But if you could manage to keep the amount of downloads you have now while making people pay you would make a lot of money!
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I wouldn't actually do that lol
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I wouldn't actually do that lol
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I figured, I was just saying if you did
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Jaydizzle414 said:
I figured, I was just saying if you did
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Wonder if I can setup some kind get paid per download link or something. Probably wouldn't pay enough to be worth the hassle to people anyways.
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