Hi All,
I am a newwwwbie and that will be obvious
I have a Note 2 on Sprint here in Houston, Tx
It came with Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and the stock Sprint Rom
I had a more tech savvy friend then I root it and install a custom ROM.
He rooted it and put a custom ROM which he said is closest to the stock Sprint Rom. I think it's called H2O
Anyway, here is the problem. He installed WiFi Tether TrevE Mod, version 3.2-beta2-modv5
It works fine when I tether it to my iMac, mid 2010, running Snow Leopard, 10,6.8
But it shuts down about every 10 minutes by itself. I start the tethering again and it works for about another 10 minutes,
Any ideas, knowledgeable ones?
Thanks in advance.
PS:I see that checking both driver reloads helped a few people with GS3s on Sprint. But that seemed to be for different problems. Anyone think I should do this?
Is your connection optimizer turned off?
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musclehead84 said:
Is your connection optimizer turned off?
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Thanks,
I've been up for hours and I have just tried that and it is staying on the longest without kicking me off.
I also did about 100 Speedtests and realized that even though I have Sprint 4G LTE coverage in my zip code, it is not very strong.
F&*cking Sprint. I guess there is nothing I can do about that. Is there?
Also, would you turn back the optimizer when you are done tethering, or just leave it off?
Much Thanks, musclehead84
I uninstalled the connection optimiser from my phone. You dont need it, you just have to manually turn your wifi on when you need it.
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rnoldh said:
Thanks,
I've been up for hours and I have just tried that and it is staying on the longest without kicking me off.
I also did about 100 Speedtests and realized that even though I have Sprint 4G LTE coverage in my zip code, it is not very strong.
F&*cking Sprint. I guess there is nothing I can do about that. Is there?
Also, would you turn back the optimizer when you are done tethering, or just leave it off?
Much Thanks, musclehead84
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No u don't need it at all. All it does is waste battery ny turning your wifi on and scanning for access points.
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I don't know much about hotspot plans and I just got on Sprint about 5 months ago. I always thought if you had the hotspot added onto your plan that it was capped data?
So my question is how do Rom's have unlimited data when they have the "hotspot hack" on it? Does Sprint not care about the cap? Or is the Hotspot plan not even capped for those who pay for it?
You get 5GB data with sprint hot spot plan
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Well when you use the hot spot app it does a sign in process and I guess that's how Sprint tracks down how you're using the phones data. With the hot spot hack they removed that sign in process which let's us connect without any errors saying you don't have the service..
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So there is no need to pay for hot spot now?
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Danial723 said:
So there is no need to pay for hot spot now?
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Not if you're running the hot spot hack. I use it all the time to connect my laptop or tablet free
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Well when you use the hot spot app it does a sign in process and I guess that's how Sprint tracks down how you're using the phones data. With the hot spot hack they removed that sign in process which let's us connect without any errors saying you don't have the service..
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Thank you for clearing that up. Now I understand. I know there is no cap but I'm paranoid. Is there a certain GB I should stay under so I don't get on Sprint's radar or do they not care? Last month I used over 7GB of just 4G through tethering. My 3G usage wasn't bad.
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Thank you for clearing that up. Now I understand. I know there is no cap but I'm paranoid. Is there a certain GB I should stay under so I don't get on Sprint's radar or do they not care? Last month I used over 7GB of just 4G through tethering. My 3G usage wasn't bad.
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Don't worry about usage. I'm pretty sure the hotspot hack just cuts Sprint out of the equation and doesn't ask them for verification when you start the app
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I'm not sure but I think the sprint hot spot is infrastructure mode, like a router, and wireless tether is ad hoc, like internet connection sharing on say a laptop.
Some wireless devices see ad hoc but not all. Some devices can be modified to see ad hoc. For example, my galaxy tab and the Motorola Xoom can't see it out of the box new. I had to replace the wpa_supplicant file on the tab with one that was modded for ad hoc networks.
On the other hand, infrastructure mode, everything wireless can see that. That's why infrastructure mode is preferred.
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Thank you for clearing that up. Now I understand. I know there is no cap but I'm paranoid. Is there a certain GB I should stay under so I don't get on Sprint's radar or do they not care? Last month I used over 7GB of just 4G through tethering. My 3G usage wasn't bad.
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I just started using the hack and I blew thru 18GB. Haven't heard anything from Sprint. I got confirmation from other users who used more than me with no issue. I was just as paranoid when I started too lol
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I'm not sure but I think the sprint hot spot is infrastructure mode, like a router, and wireless tether is ad hoc, like internet connection sharing on say a laptop.
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That is correct
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thanks for all the replies. I appreciate it getting a better understanding of it all now
I been trying to use the Wifi Tether app from market but lately my download speeds are really slow. Even though my phone is pulling like 10mb my computer only pulls like 1-2mb. And my hacked hot spot doesn't even work even though it's supposed to be hacked. Anyone have similar issues?
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Yup -- I have similar experience.
Lol. Thanks for replying. What are we to do .
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Could possibly be the ROM you're using. Need more information on what you're running. Try flashing another ROM
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I honestly believe this is normal behavior. Looks like Sprint had Samsung put a threshold to throttle tethering speeds. I believe that's what caused the whole slow 4g fiasco on previous ICS builds. They didn't properly bake it in. On Gingerbread I would pull 10+ mb while tethering. Now on ICS I barely break 1 Wether it's wifi tether or the the Sprint hotspot. Also after updating my Evo3D to ICS the tethering speeds dropped down too the same as my E4GT. And I actually pay for it on that phone..
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If you're having issues with connection being slowed due to Sprint, check out this step by step video
http://epic4gtouchroot.com/epic-4g-...g-touch-using-msl-and-bypassing-sprint-proxy/
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If you're having issues with connection being slowed due to Sprint, check out this step by step video
http://epic4gtouchroot.com/epic-4g-...g-touch-using-msl-and-bypassing-sprint-proxy/
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That only works for 3g and being that he said his phone is pulling 10mb he's obviously using his 4g connection. Honestly I've done that tweak in the past and my 3g speeds were still crappy. Even worst it broke streaming on certain apps till I reverted back to the Sprint proxy.
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Ugh well this is certainly an issue then if what you say is true. I would like to fully exploit the connection of my phone. Does this happen in cm10? I might give paranoid android or cm10 a go but I've heard the 4g speeds on those are just slow period.
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thejvicari said:
Could possibly be the ROM you're using. Need more information on what you're running....
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@OP
since you haven't disclosed your setup here is an off the wall suggestion...flash fi25 kernel/modem and test speeds again...
from my experience some ICS kernels/modems can affect 3g/4g speeds
Did you try the WiMax tweaks mentioned in the General forum?
I've tried tethering on all the stock (rooted) ROMs and never get much speed when I turn on 4G. I don't think I've ever gotten over 1Mbps. I've tried the hotspot hack and others. 3G is acceptable for most of my (very limited) tethering needs, so I haven't asked for much help.
For my purposes, 4G on a smartphone is a bit silly since reading forums and RSS feeds doesn't take up much bandwidth. But I would like to tether now and again at higher speeds to download larger files and stream video.
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Did you try the WiMax tweaks mentioned in the General forum?
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Thanks for directing me to that thread. Unfortunately, I'm unable to get my MSL. I installed a terminal emulator and get nothing when I enter getprop ril.MSL. When I put in getprop by itself and scroll through the list, there is no ril.MSL. I've also tried dialing *#RIL#, running an IPC Dump Log, but the View IPC Dump is blank.
I am rooted, btw, on stock FI25 with Agat's recovery.
What am I doing wrong?
EDIT: Okay, first of all, I was able to make the entry changes using shortcut > Activities Nova Launcher > WimaxHiddenMenu > Extensions. Second, I was able to get my MSL by downloading alogcat, going to dialer and entering ##DATA# > Edit > entering random numbers, then filtering alogcat for MSL. Whew! Anyway, still trying to follow all the instructions in that thread.
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I tried settings from the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&highlight=wimax thread and it didn't seem to make a positive difference. In fact, I'm having a little trouble with stable connections, so I'll have to try a few different things. Anyway, I'm not optimistic about this helping with tethering. My 4G speeds on my smartphone are terrific! My 4g tethering speeds are...3G-ish.
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I tried settings from the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&highlight=wimax thread and it didn't seem to make a positive difference. In fact, I'm having a little trouble with stable connections, so I'll have to try a few different things. Anyway, I'm not optimistic about this helping with tethering. My 4G speeds on my smartphone are terrific! My 4g tethering speeds are...3G-ish.
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Best other suggestions I can give - make sure nothing else is running and if at all possible keep it plugged in and cool when tethering. I don't use it much but I keep it around as a backup in case the main net access goes out.
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Best other suggestions I can give - make sure nothing else is running and if at all possible keep it plugged in and cool when tethering. I don't use it much but I keep it around as a backup in case the main net access goes out.
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Thanks. Should i try water cooling? I don't use it enough to worry, but like piddling with it to get the best performance. If something changes, I'll post about it.
Funny my post got ignored when I tried to give the best feedback based on experience. If you want fast 4g tethering speeds go back to a gingerbread build and you'll be all set. On ICS the kernels are set up to not allow you to go past 1mb while tethering. I guess that was sprints way of cracking down on the free tethering. You get to enjoy it still but at reduced speeds. My Evo3D is also on the same boat after ICS even with a subscription to Sprint hotspot $29.99.. Both phones had great tethering speeds on gingerbread. On that note good luck because you're never going to go above 1mb unless you count the upload speeds.
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RayTrue04 said:
Funny my post got ignored when I tried to give the best feedback based on experience. If you want fast 4g tethering speeds go back to a gingerbread build and you'll be all set. On ICS the kernels are set up to not allow you to go past 1mb while tethering. I guess that was sprints way of cracking down on the free tethering. You get to enjoy it still but at reduced speeds. My Evo3D is also on the same boat after ICS even with a subscription to Sprint hotspot $29.99.. Both phones had great tethering speeds on gingerbread. On that note good luck because you're never going to go above 1mb unless you count the upload speeds.
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Actually, I never got 4G tethering speeds on Gingerbread.
ty080279 said:
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@OP
since you haven't disclosed your setup here is an off the wall suggestion...flash fi25 kernel/modem and test speeds again...
from my experience some ICS kernels/modems can affect 3g/4g speeds
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I'm on re-calked FI03. FI03 modem and kernel. I have no plans on going back to gb. Ics is too nice. Will try switching roms to see what happens. Thank you all.
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Actually, I never got 4G tethering speeds on Gingerbread.
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I did with no issues. Speedtest on my laptop pulled 8-10mb easily. Hell I even streamed Netflix on my ps3 at full HD. Something I can no longer do
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I don't get what's going on? Are wii talking about tethering with the cord? If so, I've seen some people talking about tethering with their hotspot. So now I'm a bit confused. Are you all using the "Wifi Hotspot Hack" tether?
I don't know what "speed" problems you all are getting. I've been using the Wifi Tether app for quite some time. Most of the time, ROMs don't let you tether 4G using Sprint Hot Spot hack. The hack would only support 3G. So I just use Wifi Tether anyways. I always get good speeds. What's going on?
And I stream Netflix HD on ICS. So I know I'm getting fast speeds. LoL!!
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I don't get what's going on? Are wii talking about tethering with the cord? If so, I've seen some people talking about tethering with their hotspot. So now I'm a bit confused. Are you all using the "Wifi Hotspot Hack" tether?
I don't know what "speed" problems you all are getting. I've been using the Wifi Tether app for quite some time. Most of the time, ROMs don't let you tether 4G using Sprint Hot Spot hack. The hack would only support 3G. So I just use Wifi Tether anyways. I always get good speeds. What's going on?
And I stream Netflix HD on ICS. So I know I'm getting fast speeds. LoL!!
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We're talking about using the phone as a hotspot whether it is with the wifi tether app or the hacked hotspot. Apparently after upgrading to ICS from GB I'm getting throttled data speeds when I use my phone as a hotspot. My phone would pull 10 mbps, but when my computer connects to it is throttled to 2mbps max whether I'm using wifi tether app or the hacked hotspot. What's your setup and what speeds are you getting while tethering?
just curious of people use it or not? On the EVO LTE you wanted to keep wi-fi off as it tended to cause problems when switching from wi-fi to 4g (the problem being you would not get any 4g signal.)
Nope. Annoying having that crap pop up constantly
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mine is checked (which I believe means it is on) but I never have anything pop-up to suggest a different network etc. It does automatically switch to wi-fi given the chance.
God no.
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God no.
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lol yeah no.. i'm smart enough to know when to connect to a network
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just curious of people use it or not? On the EVO LTE you wanted to keep wi-fi off as it tended to cause problems when switching from wi-fi to 4g (the problem being you would not get any 4g signal.)
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Wait.. we have a Sprint Connection Optimizer??? Since when???
Optimizer
jeeplj8 said:
just curious of people use it or not? On the EVO LTE you wanted to keep wi-fi off as it tended to cause problems when switching from wi-fi to 4g (the problem being you would not get any 4g signal.)
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That is one of the 109 items that are frozen.
Deleted from my phone, long time ago.
That's the Sprint "don't use your unlimited data".
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I can't stand it. I have to disable it then remove the apk to actually turn it off. Very frustrating. My girlfriends Zte Flash won't allow you to disable either. Kind of a crappy "feature".
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I drive around doing property maintenance all day and have lots of hotspots so leave mine on. I am surprised at how many times I pull out my phone and am on a wifi network, and no pop-up for me either. There is a setting to disable that somewhere.
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I drive around doing property maintenance all day and have lots of hotspots so leave mine on. I am surprised at how many times I pull out my phone and am on a wifi network, and no pop-up for me either. There is a setting to disable that somewhere.
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Settings>Wifi>Menu Soft Key>Advanced
There's a few hidden goodies in that menu.
ROM - Odexed Blue LJ7 JB "Holy Grail"
Kernel - KT747
Baseband - LJ7
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It seems to me that you need it to get 4g. Am I wrong in this observation? Is it just coincidence that I don't pick up 4g when its off?
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matchstick13 said:
It seems to me that you need it to get 4g. Am I wrong in this observation? Is it just coincidence that I don't pick up 4g when its off?
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You don't need it at all to get 4G.
I hate the thing. First thing to go when I flashed.
Heck no.
The optimizer did not seem to optimize anything for me.
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Absolutely not! As soon as QBKing77 showed how to stop it, it was gone!
Freeze that bbbbyyyyyyaaaaattttcccchhhh!!!
Freeze it every time. Seems pretty pointless to me.
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The optimizer did not seem to optimize anything for me.
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The only thing it did for me was to optimally drain my battery.
has anyone had the issue where their phone won't connect back to 3g data?
when I reboot my phone 3g will work until wifi kicks in. after I turn wifi off 3g comes back, I can call and text but will not download any data.
I have tried Odin back to stock. wiped everything including recovery. I have tried flashing every combination of modems and kernels. all same.
however one thing I will note. I have not been able to get a successful modem flashed in Odin. it keeps failing. so I flash in twrp.
I also wiped the activation data via ##732# or something like that. had sprint reactivate my phone too..
perhaps someone could shed some light on this?
-Wizzle
I just got my Note 2 like 5 days ago and mine does the same thing. Its very annoying and its gonna be exchanged today for that and other reasons.
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hmm. I wonder if it's network related..
is your phone stock?
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Okay here is the skinny. It is network related. My wife's stock s3 does the same thing. If you are in an area without lte and your phone under mobile settings is selected to lte/evdo/cdma it will connect to ephrd13. Which is enhanced 3g. When you come off wifi or a phone call sometime it will not reconnect. You can toggle data a few times and it will reconnect.
To solve this issue, under mobile settings I select evdo only setting being that I do not have lte in my area. There is no change in speed between the 2 3g networks.
This info is from self diagnosing the rooted note 2, a stock photon, and a stock s3.
I have had sprint reset the phones as well as the ##data# trick.
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I had this problem as well.. Very annoying..
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pongoface said:
Okay here is the skinny. It is network related. My wife's stock s3 does the same thing. If you are in an area without lte and your phone under mobile settings is selected to lte/evdo/cdma it will connect to ephrd13. Which is enhanced 3g. When you come off wifi or a phone call sometime it will not reconnect. You can toggle data a few times and it will reconnect.
To solve this issue, under mobile settings I select evdo only setting being that I do not have lte in my area. There is no change in speed between the 2 3g networks.
This info is from self diagnosing the rooted note 2, a stock photon, and a stock s3.
I have had sprint reset the phones as well as the ##data# trick.
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yeah I did the ## thing. however it came back. so someone from sprint called me to see if Iwas happy with the support and I told them I was still having data issues. He told me that he would put my ticket in priority and after an hour everything has been working better so far...
but we'll see
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Yes changing to evdo so far has helped alot. I really appreciate the info. Thank you.
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Yes changing to evdo so far has helped alot. I really appreciate the info. Thank you.
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I will try this as well. Thank you.
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When I say evdo only I meant cdma only. Ehrpd13 is the handshaking 3g for lte. Some areas have lte in the towers but no ehrpd13 so the lte is not turned on yet. Basically ehrpd13 and lte are like cookies and cream lol.
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When I say evdo only I meant cdma only. Ehrpd13 is the handshaking 3g for lte. Some areas have lte in the towers but no ehrpd13 so the lte is not turned on yet. Basically ehrpd13 and lte are like cookies and cream lol.
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yeah I figured cdma. it works much better so far. but then I'll need to turn on lte eventually when you area gets it.
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wizzlewizzle said:
yeah I figured cdma. it works much better so far. but then I'll need to turn on lte eventually when you area gets it.
-Wizzle
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The problem is my area does have it but at my house its very weak. My ohone wikl display 4g but it wont download anything untio it switches to 3g.
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When the 4g network matures as it will the 4g will get better as the 3g.
You can always go to I think s4gru.com. That site shows when and where lte will become available. Plus they will be able to help you better there than xda.
As for sprint customer service, they are laughable at best. 4 people I spoke with didn't know what ehrpd13 was lol.
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The problem is my area does have it but at my house its very weak. My ohone wikl display 4g but it wont download anything untio it switches to 3g.
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I hear ya. it's basically like not even having 4g.
-Wizzle
I don't know if this is just my phone or what, but lately I've been having trouble staying connected to data. Been needing to constantly toggle data on/off to reconnect.
I'm currently on TW 4.1.2 and I've tried everything from "hands free activation" to flashing different modems and PRLs. Nothing seems to work. Trying to figure out if this is a problem with my phone or if anybody else has been dealing with this problem.
Driving nutz. About to switch over T-mo if this doesn't rectify itself. Dah!
It might be that Sprint is upgrading the towers in your area. Horrible service is one of the signs that this may be going on, especially if its only shown up recently. I would suggest to contact Sprint and inquire
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It might be that Sprint is upgrading the towers in your area. Horrible service is one of the signs that this may be going on, especially if its only shown up recently. I would suggest to contact Sprint and inquire
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Yes where do you live? Also check out s4gru.com
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Yes where do you live? Also check out s4gru.com
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I'm in the southern part of Arizona, between Phoenix and Tucson. I've only started experiencing this problem about a week ago. It's so annoying.
But yeah, i checked s4gru. And it would appear other peeps are having this problem as well. This is driving me crazy tho. Need data for work. I'm about to move on from CDMA.
T-mo is offering Nexus 4 for $50. No contract. Might just switch. I dunno.
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I'm in the southern part of Arizona, between Phoenix and Tucson. I've only started experiencing this problem about a week ago. It's so annoying.
But yeah, i checked s4gru. And it would appear other peeps are having this problem as well. This is driving me crazy tho. Need data for work. I'm about to move on from CDMA.
T-mo is offering Nexus 4 for $50. No contract. Might just switch. I dunno.
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This last week my phone started instantly switching back from 4g to 3g. I used to be able to toggle airplane mode and toggle it off and it would just reload the 4g when it reconnected but now it wont even do that. I was reading a suggestion to toggle LTE only mode from the ##data# menu but before doing that I noticed my phone was set to "hybrid mode" I changed it over to cdma/evdo/lte and after I did that it connected to 4g and stayed connected. Hopefully this helps you out... I was getting just as frustrated as you are to be stuck on 3g when I KNOW it is in the area.
drewmonge said:
I don't know if this is just my phone or what, but lately I've been having trouble staying connected to data. Been needing to constantly toggle data on/off to reconnect.
I'm currently on TW 4.1.2 and I've tried everything from "hands free activation" to flashing different modems and PRLs. Nothing seems to work. Trying to figure out if this is a problem with my phone or if anybody else has been dealing with this problem.
Driving nutz. About to switch over T-mo if this doesn't rectify itself. Dah!
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Might need to change your modem that you are running. Some modems will not work with some roms. I had the same issues before and changing the modem fixed that issue.
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