Now dish network wants to buy sprint ....
http://money.cnn.com/m/#!/2013/04/15/technology/dish-sprint-bid.json?category=Latest News
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Now dish network wants to buy sprint ....
http://money.cnn.com/m/#!/2013/04/15/technology/dish-sprint-bid.json?category=Latest News
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Beat me to it. This is VERY intriguing. At this point, I'm stuck with Sprint for a couple more years at least, most likely. Any sort of "cash infusion" is welcomed.
In the end, the only major player in my small city is Verizon, I may be jumping ship so I don't have to deal with crappy 3G speeds where 4G can be had. =\
And now Verizon looks like it's going after the Clearwire spectrum:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/15/4...re-1-5-billion-to-lease-its-spectrum-says-wsj
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And now Verizon looks like it's going after the Clearwire spectrum:
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That move doesn't quite compute for me. Doesn't Sprint essentially control ClearWire? I suppose if Sprint needs cash more than it needs spectrum (which if probably the case), then it makes more sense.
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That move doesn't quite compute for me. Doesn't Sprint essentially control ClearWire? I suppose if Sprint needs cash more than it needs spectrum (which if probably the case), then it makes more sense.
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sprint does Control Clear. At least that what I have read
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Sprint owns clear but they are still run independently of each other. ..2 separate companies .... similar to how Samsung can compete against Apple being sued by Apple and will still sell parts to Apple
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Sprint owns clear but they are still run independently of each other. ..2 separate companies .... similar to how Samsung can compete against Apple being sued by Apple and will still sell parts to Apple
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I agree, mostly. Except that Samsung isn't selling away their most important asset to Apple, the tech and research behind the screens.
As I understand it, ClearWire only has one thing that people want, and that is the spectrum itself. Unless Sprint can never use the spectrum Verizon wants, this move still confuses me.
Does anybody in here know about how this affects stocks? It went up almost $1 today!!!! So I was reading and did some research and this article says that it will disappear after a couple days and to sell , I dont understand how all that works anyone w some insight id greatly appreciate it.
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Does anybody in here know about how this affects stocks? It went up almost $1 today!!!! So I was reading and did some research and this article says that it will disappear after a couple days and to sell , I dont understand how all that works anyone w some insight id greatly appreciate it.
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Big, there is no magic formula for how stocks go up and down. I mean, at one time or another, there are methods to follow, but once everyone catches on...typically it stops working. That's not to say that in situations like this, with announcements like this, that the sudden excitement doesn't drive prices up only to come back down shortly thereafter. It happens, and happens often.
But, who's to say in this instance that prices don't hold and potentially go up even further?
For all intensive purposes, the stock market is a zero-sum game (debatable). When I lose, someone else has won.
All in all, I stay away from the stock market. Not because it's inherently bad, but because I haven't spent enough time researching it and getting to know the ins and outs.
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intents and purposes. 3 words there even though when most people say it it comes out sounding like 2.
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intents and purposes. 3 words there even though when most people say it it comes out sounding like 2.
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Thank you for this. I can't believe I've been saying this wrong for so long. Myself being a person who takes pride in proper grammar etiquette had to look it up to make sure you were correct. Alas, you are 100% right, and I've probably sounded like an ass at more than a few interviews lol.
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Does anybody in here know about how this affects stocks? It went up almost $1 today!!!! So I was reading and did some research and this article says that it will disappear after a couple days and to sell , I dont understand how all that works anyone w some insight id greatly appreciate it.
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Of course it would go up: the prospect that now 2 companies are looking forward to buy CW (one of them at a higher price) makes CW stock a bit more attractive thus pushing people to buy shares, as the amount of shares available go down their price goes up and now whoever owns CW shares is making an extra dollar per share if they decide to sell.
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Of course it would go up: the prospect that now 2 companies are looking forward to buy CW (one of them at a higher price) makes CW stock a bit more attractive thus pushing people to buy shares, as the amount of shares available go down their price goes up and now whoever owns CW shares is making an extra dollar per share if they decide to sell.
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its not clear wire that they want to buy .....dish is trying to buy sprint and verizon wants to lease the clear spectrum . dish offered 25.5 billion for sprint and verizon offered 1.5 billion to lease the spectrum ...vzw is not trying to buy clear that deal is already done with sprint and clear ..
I have no doubt that Dish will win this war - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...perior-to-softbank-s-investor-omega-says.html
A great read what dish is about & how Ergen has reached this point - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dish-network-meanest-company-america-194008712.html?page=all
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I have no doubt that Dish will win this war - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...perior-to-softbank-s-investor-omega-says.html
A great read what dish is about & how Ergen has reached this point - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dish-network-meanest-company-america-194008712.html?page=all
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I really hope not. Dish IMHO is the bargain basement satellite. Many complaints of non existent customer service. Would be the beginning of the end for Sprint as this approach seems have been tried by Sprint and failed horribly.
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if dish buys sprint, ill walk.
Offering more cash, keeping it in US, "synergy" with TV offerings... all fine and good sounding as statements I've read around the web for "pro" DiSH (I would actually contest the positive aspects of the TV network/wireless network synergy...)
The fact is, Softbank has Many orders of magnitude in assets overall to continue to support and invest in the network. And the motivation to do it, as a well established tech-forward company. ($4 trillion vs $11 billion...)
As where DiSHs motivations in the wireless business are akin to Comcasts in the ISP business. Not to provide you an excellent data service, but to sell you the bundles, the programing, the advertising, where their true money is made. Bad for the consumer.
I for one, welcome our new Eastern overlords.
I am a customer of both Sprint and Dish already. I guess that wouldn't hurt to combine the two. For me anyway... Though this is clearly a response to comcast teaming with Vzw.
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Seems like a win win either way.
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Why are Google and Samsung are so bad?
I'm sure that comparing to Apple events is a bit unfair, since no one could sell "new" featured like Jobs... But come the hell on!
You are a multibillion dollar corporation; please hire (full-time, if needed) an actor completely well versed in the product being sold and being able to deliver it like a brand new feature (never even attempted in the industry) to consumers. I know you cannot hire Mr. Jobs, but come on! Is NOONE on the face of this Earth as good as him?
Ya poor delivery I agree but u gotta admit the ics looks pretty AWESOME!!! If anyone doesn't know u can watch the event live on ustream.
Unfortunately, no indication of a Sprint/WiMAX version. Disappointing.
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Unfortunately, no indication of a Sprint/WiMAX version. Disappointing.
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Even Sprint is moving away from Wimax.
It'll come to Sprint with LTE.
Possibly be exclusive to Verizon for a little bit.
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Even Sprint is moving away from Wimax.
It'll come to Sprint with LTE.
Possibly be exclusive to Verizon for a little bit.
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Why would it go to sprint? Wimax is going out and lte wont be here for a while. Maybe you can use it on sprints new lte in 2 years lol!
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Why would it go to sprint? Wimax is going out and lte wont be here for a while. Maybe you can use it on sprints new lte in 2 years lol!
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Did you just ask why Google's dev device would go to Sprint?
...The same reason that it went to all the other carriers?
While they may be exclusive to Verizon for a bit, it would be just about the most retarded decision possible to start being exclusive with Android.
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Did you just ask why Google's dev device would go to Sprint?
...The same reason that it went to all the other carriers?
While they may be exclusive to Verizon for a bit, it would be just about the most retarded decision possible to start being exclusive with Android.
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I lol'd at how awesome this response was
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Apple puts on a good show, I never really thought Android had to. I only care about what it does, not how its presented. I'm not the least bit disappointed.
I like the phone and ICS but I agree the presentation was making me sleepy. Go ahead and brag with over inflated numbers in the beginning. Show your over exaggerated ego that people watched because they either love it or hate. Your in China god damn it let me see some kung fu or something. But, the phone was really nice and ICS is the shizzz. I wish they outlined the boring geek stuff like if hardware accelerated gui was being enabled. O well.
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Yes why would it go to sprint? Their 4G technology is going out so google isnt going to put old tech in their new phone. Also Sprint's data is terrible and slow
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Yes why would it go to sprint? Their 4G technology is going out so google isnt going to put old tech in their new phone. Also Sprint's data is terrible and slow
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It's pretty nice if you live somewhere decent.
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It's pretty nice if you live somewhere decent.
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I live in North Phoenix in a VERY nice neighborhood
Thread jacked by conflicting views. I believe the OP is about how Google puts up a boring show* even with it's vast amount of money saved up in it's piggy bank. But, we can size up our e - d***s if you guys want.
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Thread jacked by conflicting views. I believe the OP is about how Google puts up a boring show* even with it's vast amount of money saved up in it's piggy bank. But, we can size up our e - d***s if you guys want.
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Sorry but sprint is bad in my area for some reason. I have 4 out of 6 bars and im getting .17mbps on a good day. Makes me so bad. And we dont have 4g at all in phoenix officially.
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Sorry but sprint is bad in my area for some reason. I have 4 out of 6 bars and im getting .17mbps on a good day. Makes me so bad. And we dont have 4g at all in phoenix officially.
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You don't have to apologize to me I get the same 3g speeds with all 4 of my different phones. I luckily have access to either Wifi or Wimax almost everywhere I go locally. But, honestly this has nothing to do with OP. Out of respect of the OP one of our fellow forum member I think the thread should stay on topic. I ain't mad though.
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Sorry but sprint is bad in my area for some reason. I have 4 out of 6 bars and im getting .17mbps on a good day. Makes me so bad. And we dont have 4g at all in phoenix officially.
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then maybe you should just switch carriers and stop whining like a little *****
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There are more polite ways to say that.
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Yes, there is. But those other ways have been explored and discussed to death and this debate still continues on a daily basis.
I think it simple:
Unhappy with your carrier? Don't sign another contract for a new phone, switch.
Now, back to the Event/Galaxy Nexus...
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Did you just ask why Google's dev device would go to Sprint?
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While they may be exclusive to Verizon for a bit, it would be just about the most retarded decision possible to start being exclusive with Android.
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+1. The rumor is that Verizon will have it for a month or two(that's why they passed on getting a GSII variant) but I think sprint will be the last to get it considering they were the last to get the Nexus S. Google will prob worry about rolling it out to all the carriers as is first then worry about adding a wimax radio for sprint.
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Because unlike you, Google and Samsung are forward-thinking. They see Sprint's efforts to roll out nationwide LTE coverage and the backhaul being done to the 3G network, therefore the network footprints will be there for the device to run on. While some people on this forum continue to find it more productive to whine than to research, a select few will welcome this device with open arms on the network in its current state knowing what there is ahead of us.
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I'm going to go with newalker on this one. Not like I go into debate threads all the time and pick some.one to side with. I usually find my own opinion which is slightly differenr than every one elses but... ya us good geeks arnt mad and angery at to the point we yell often and hate on sprint. Sprints run by people. People make mistakes and sprint make a rather big one with wimax but I'm not pissed at all. I'm glad they figured it out sooner than later and are going to try to push out lte really really fast. We all have to apreciate what we have. 2 years ago we were so very far away from where we are today. 2 more years from now the whole dang sprint vision will be done. That's sooo fricken fast! I'm more than happy with my sg2 and 3g, most places have wifi and I personally feel blessed tech In phones is where it is. I'm still aww struck in where we are today. If people could take a step back and take a few deeps breaths and look at the big picture of where the big 3 have taken us in the last 5 years and what 5 more will bring you will be fine. Americas need to pump the breaks and be ok with the great stuff we got. Adroid phones are coming out so fast and so many its mind blowing. Every one should come to my island of Kauai for a bit to see how nice a little slower pace of living is and you will apreciate your phone and service at hand ( unless you got sub 300kbs serving in which case I'm sorry for you ). Idk why I said all this but we all gotta apreciate what we got
EDIT- it would be cool to have a little more ads for updates and androids but eh. AMD doesn't have tons of adds and I'm a AMD guy and I don't mind. Intel pumps out adds like apple. I almost like having a phone or knowing what all the masses ( iphone ) don't know/have. And I really like our little xda club
This isn't a debate thread. Just another thread jacked into one. O well, another thread that should get shut down.
now im not on verizon and the only reason im coming over is for this phone. (BE WARNED - RANT COMING)
I've been on sprint for about 10 years now, the past 3 years i have been on an employee plan paying 30$/month for unlimited everything. The sad thing is, i feel bad for the people paying full price on sprint because im located in Rochester NY and sprint service should be great here but i rarely get service indoor's recently. 4G is a joke and Rochester was one of the first places to get it turned on. So im happy to move to a better network and brought myself to pay the extra $ for the service.... so enough about how sprints network is going down hill and on to how Verizon F***ED this launch up royally.
Maybe i hate Verizon for not mentioning a word about this phone. Maybe its because the Galaxy Nexus has been out for almost a month overseas. Maybe its because i feel like not only have i been waiting for this phone but i've also been waiting for Google to release an exciting new OS. Maybe it's the fact that i KNOW this phone can compete in the market as one of the best phones and not to mention its the flagship phone from Google that can kick start features like NFC and such. but then i think to myself... What did i just see when i turned on the TV or when i went to that website. ADs for the RAZR... THE RAZR.... ARE U KIDDING ME?
okay okay, i understand, back in 2003 it was the coolest phone on the block. TIMES HAVE CHANGED, Verizon knewwwwww they were getting the Nexus, and they hate they can't call it Droid. the name droid (personal opinion) is UGLY. Im not saying Galaxy Nexus is any better but i dont want to feel like i have a robot in my pocket. The Razr just came at the wrong time and VZ spent to much money with s$itty advertising like they always do.
I was really really hoping to see some type of great marketing strategy by verizon starting this week. Something along the lines of this:
Mon Night Football. 5 to 10 second commercial, completely white background and just out the nexus right in the middle of the high def screen. no music. mahyeb a piano key or smething, with just a shot of this beauty... then at the very end, flash Verizon so people know, that phone is coming to VZ, wow!!?? (and yes i would love to see a "with Google" slapped in there somewhere but we all know Verizon would have a heart attack promoting anyone but themselves)
and keep showing the commercial every day with a count down until the release date (which i was hoping the 9th) so it would have been even sweeter to see that commercial knowing i can freakin get that this week!?!
people know the verizon brand, they like the verizon brand becuase its associated with a good network. FOCUS ON YOUR PRODUCT, THE BEST ONE U HAVE. make people say, woahhhhhh what was that???? and im not talking about the people like us who wait and wait and wait knowing we will hold out for this, im talking about your average consumer, the one who see's a product and says, damn thats good looking, i WANT that. i WANT THAT NEOWWWZ!
(hell i even made a s$hitty youtube video to get my point across)
but no. No commercials, no internet Ad's, only one spot on thier website to put your email in a box (which NO ONE likes giving out) for more information....
Verizon, you messed up. You had a chance to make a boat load even more of cash and you missed out. im not even your customer yet and i dread the fact ill be stuck with you for two years.
and now we have this, no Google wallet. im highly confident once developers get their hands on this phone they will find a way to make it work, but instead Verizon points the finger and says its not them. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD GOOGLE NOT WANT TO HELP ITS OWN NEW SERVICE?!? It just doesnt make sense.........
alright, i just blacked out with anger/frustration while typing this so i hope it makes sense and i hope other people see what im seeing...
oh, and one last note.. This ones for you Google. i hope you paid attention to this whole launch. i hope you learned your leson about dancing with the RED DEVIL. They will take your masterpiece and piss all over it.
In my opinion the main problem with this launch is that Google and Samsung allowed Verizon to take control of it. I hate to compare to Apple, but they take full control of their product launches and do not allow the carriers to tamper in any way. Samsung and Google should have grown some balls and had the phone launched their way. If Verizon did not want to play ball then they just release the unlocked version here as they did in the past.
Cool story bro. Lol @ video. Lame but funny.
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Maybe I should talk to my account Rep.
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Yeah, and you can bet that the resolution will be quiet and nothing else ever said of this outage.
"Isolated" will be the spin. I was going to head over to Verizon and eBay the GSM GNEX I have, but I just can't fork over $85 for a tiered plan when I have unlimited on ATT for $40 after taxes (2nd line on plan).
Oh well.
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
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Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Haha, I don't blame you. Didn't mean to come off as a jerk if I did.
Hell, I'd be doing the same. Enjoy it!
lol the op is a joke. He probably wasted 15-20minutes of his life to complain to a whole bunch of people he doesn't eve know ... ahhaha
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Not saying I necessarily don't believe you, just saying the "don't sell yet" thing is pretty hard...they probably aren't even allowing the devices to activate on the network yet.
Beyond that, not a single person knows the date it's releasing now. The update said "indefinite", meaning nobody knows for sure. It's just suspected for next week, at the moment.
I won't promise anything but I will call rep tomorrow for some info
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Thanks for the reply king shady, u prob just wasted 5 mins reading even tho u don't care lol. All in good fun tho, just pissed at vz, ill get one sooner or later
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I disagree.
Seriously. Think about it from Verizon's perspective. Why would they put money and advertising behind the Nexus phone when they have the Rezound and Razr that just came out and are of similar specs? They control the user experience on those devices and can put their subscription apps preloaded on them. Not true with the Galaxy Nexus. Of course they're going to market the hell out of the devices that make them more money.
That said, I agree that Samsung/Google should have taken more charge with this launch. Nexus devices are about no compromise, pure Android experiences, and no carrier/OEM tampering. What I've seen of the Verizon version has contradicted this in a few ways before the phone is even out. Makes me very happy I got the GSM version. But at least the LTE one is unlocked and there will be plenty of ROMs and support for it.
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while the bill is dead at least for now. I wouldn't put it past people (namely Lemar) to re write it or get it included into something else that no one catches right off.
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while the bill is dead at least for now. I wouldn't put it past people (namely Lemar) to re write it or get it included into something else that no one catches right off.
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It's not dead. They shelved it, and are currently revising it to resubmit later.
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What's wrong with the internet the way it is... aren't people satisfied with the bazillions of dollars they already make in profits...
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What's wrong with the internet the way it is... aren't people satisfied with the bazillions of dollars they already make in profits...
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Apparently the music and film industries believe that the record-breaking profits every year aren't enough. They seem pretty convinced that if I could not download, say, music from the 1920's that I would somehow pay them money for it...oh, wait, they don't even sell it? Then surely I would just spend my money on something they do sell?
The real issue is not piracy. At all. It is control. They are losing control of content creation, distribution, profits and everything in between.
It's a paradigm shift. There is no more scarcity. In the past it cost money to make physical copies of content. That is no longer true. In the past it cost money to transport and distribute content. That is no longer true.
Guess who owns every one of those in-between industries? Guess who gets to pick the celebrities?
The internet has made all of that obsolete. The traditional music industry structure is crumbling so fast that you can start writing it's obituary now...the film industry still puts a TON of money into big movies--money that technology hasn't found a way to make irrelevant yet. So, they will likely go nowhere, but, profit margins are going to have to get slimmer to compete with all of the independently produced films.
People will always want to own the physical media under some circumstances...collectors, to give as a gift, for that one really special movie or album....but...most people won't.
These 2 industry associations are trying to prop up a 100 year old business model at the expense of cultural and technological progress....and that means money--to everyone else but them.
Tough ****. Pick a new business. Let the rest of us get on with progress.
They get paid way too much anyway. Some chick can make a sound out of her voice? So what, I've seen people run minecraft inside of minecraft on a computer they built out of blocks inside of minecraft. Now that is deserving of millions.
I recently saw a youtube vid of a talk Cory Doctorow gave at the 28th chaos communication congress last month. it's a long speech (about an hour) but worth watching and discusses SOPA and a lot of topics regarding restrictions on computers. here's just a bit of it.
"And on the network side, attempts to make a network that can't be used for copyright infringement always converges with the surveillance measures that we know from repressive governments. So, SOPA, the U.S. Stop Online Piracy Act, bans tools like DNSSec because they can be used to defeat DNS blocking measures. And it blocks tools like Tor, because they can be used to circumvent IP blocking measures. In fact, the proponents of SOPA, the Motion Picture Association of America, circulated a memo, citing research that SOPA would probably work, because it uses the same measures as are used in Syria, China, and Uzbekistan, and they argued that these measures are effective in those countries, and so they would work in America, too! "
I would post a link but not sure what rules are regarding that. anyway if you search for "28c3 cory doctorow" it will be the first that shows up.
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xSaint21 said:
What's wrong with the internet the way it is... aren't people satisfied with the bazillions of dollars they already make in profits...
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The thing is the more money people make, the more they want=OIL COMPANIES.
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Kinda was a rhetorical question greed is one hell of a thing.
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Scary :x
We're getting daily emails now about sprint's on the west coast getting their audits from sprint already, and how picky their being (like deducting points for not checking the boxes next to what we can save on the data preservation). I'm still new, just out of my ninety days, and was hoping to get some advice from some other techs who have been thru an official audit, not a mock audit from your srss or iae.
I also heard their going employee to employee and asking random questions. My biggest fear is they'll ask me a sales Rep related question and ill be left looking stupid. Is this true? What kind of questions will they ask?
I probably shouldn't be too worried. My srss for PCS experts uses my ready now pitch as an example for other stores. Literally, ill be in front of a crowd of customers and it goes down like this:
HOW SATISFIED ARE WE??
VERY!!!!
WHAT SERVICE DID WE PARTICIPATE IN???
READY NOW!!
he says he's buying me some pompoms
kurtiskobain said:
Scary :x
We're getting daily emails now about sprint's on the west coast getting their audits from sprint already, and how picky their being (like deducting points for not checking the boxes next to what we can save on the data preservation). I'm still new, just out of my ninety days, and was hoping to get some advice from some other techs who have been thru an official audit, not a mock audit from your srss or iae.
I also heard their going employee to employee and asking random questions. My biggest fear is they'll ask me a sales Rep related question and ill be left looking stupid. Is this true? What kind of questions will they ask?
I probably shouldn't be too worried. My srss for PCS experts uses my ready now pitch as an example for other stores. Literally, ill be in front of a crowd of customers and it goes down like this:
HOW SATISFIED ARE WE??
VERY!!!!
WHAT SERVICE DID WE PARTICIPATE IN???
READY NOW!!
he says he's buying me some pompoms
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Like he said, I wouldn't worry about it - just do you best, its all you can do.
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Sounds like you're 3rd party. I spent over a year as a 3rd party tech before moving to corporate. The auditors have no affect on your job directly, they can only complain to your franchise owners if things aren't perfect. Do what you can to the best of your ability and you'll be fine. The only ones who can fire you are the management staff within your independent company, so just suck up to them and gain some job security. Things here at corporate are much more slack.
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Put in a word for me at the Cave Springs location, lol. Ive been trying to get on in one of the STL stores for a couple years...
study S.P.R.I.N.T., the new hire training, and wear a name tag. thats pretty much all they will hassle you about. oh, and have ALL info on EVERY data preservation filled out! for good measure we get a data preservation on EVERY device, EVERY time. just in case. Good luck!
lol, batteries. Its been probably the biggest point of contention at our corporate store. Just make sure any batteries you have on hand are in inventory.
I agree, this audit season sucks. Having us do things like shipping our vendor returns every Sunday, even when they're not full, just to minimize the amount of phones auditors can look at. Ridiculous.
I look at everything they're making us do like Kosher rules; you're going to obey this rule, not because it's against the rules, but so that it will keep you from breaking another rule. It's annoying, especially when my store passed audit last year, and the only reason we're subjected again is because the rest of the district failed.
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You would figure that your iae would let you know if you meed the entire preservation form filled out. Why would they count off for not having it filled out.
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And as far as batteries go don't forget to make sure they are all secured with either the stickers covering the leads or in a baggy. Don't want any WMD's blowing up your store.
People I know have told me many times I should go into this field. How much could a typical tech make?
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You would figure that your iae would let you know if you meed the entire preservation form filled out. Why would they count off for not having it filled out.
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to tell you the truth, that doesn't make sense. If a customer doesn't authorize you to temporarily store their contacts so that you can restore them, then that box shouldn't be checked. I can't see how that would lose points either.
What IS a no-no, however, is keeping the bottom half of DP sheets, those need torn off and shredded.
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People I know have told me many times I should go into this field. How much could a typical tech make?
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Not a lot lol. Many less than 30000 year.
We're very under appreciated, considering how few of us there are in relation to sales reps.
Are there some of us that deserve that little? Sure.. it doesn't take much education to gain the position.
But there are a lot of others that actively save the company a lot of money, and are inherently more valuable, and it takes a pretty smart tech to be that way.
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Just to be clear, the bottom half only has to be shredded if its filled out right?? That's what my big wigs told me.
At the rate I'm going ill be making 28k which isn't bad considering its my first year and my manager can't seem to stress enough that there is no cap to what I can make.
Are you other techs allowed to sell accessories? Its a big debacle between me and one particular sales Rep. He seems to think that if I spend an hour with a customer replacing their 3d LCD that when they need a new screen protector I should hand it over to him. I think this is bull, as any accessories sold thru s&r are made by my hand and I should should have the privilege of the commission.
I've been told all we need with etickets are the dp and the eticket summary...is this correct? I started right when they started cracking down and every other day they needed something new or different as far as etickets page combinations
One more quick thing...does my manager get EVERYTHING I make on the NASCcalander????
Yes every transaction posts to the calender on Nasc.
We can see everything!!!
I didnt mean it as does he see everything...I mean, if I have a 10,000$ month, does he only get a percentage of that or does he pocket it all? Obviously I'm getting my cut of it too, but I was interested in how he gets paid...is he getting a percentage or is that pure profit for him?
Here at my store we mostly lost points due to things like notes not being complete in the eTickets, the rest was fine.
DP forms as long as the 4 lines were signed we were okay (Name/Signature/Phone #/what's the last one?) were the only requirements, and of course shredding the bottom portion.
For the most part they only ask reps questions, techs it's just tech questions.
Audits suck.
The best information I have is to start getting in the habit of asking everything your supposed to, not letting it slip with anyone. It's usually the most unassuming person that turns over the scorecard when it's done.
Just do your best, and not make any big mistakes, you'll be fine.
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kurtiskobain said:
I didnt mean it as does he see everything...I mean, if I have a 10,000$ month, does he only get a percentage of that or does he pocket it all? Obviously I'm getting my cut of it too, but I was interested in how he gets paid...is he getting a percentage or is that pure profit for him?
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Every dealer is different, but no single person gets the entire calendar. The calendar is money paid to the company to operate their ASC. You as a tech get a percentage as commission (I'm assuming).
Again, I don't know how it is at your company, but I get paid $1 for every ticket plus my commission percentage as lead.
Must be nice.
I don't get a cent of our calendar.
Really really liking them.
coorsleftfield said:
Really really liking them.
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I thought I was the only one. I made a few thousand at the close of business Friday. My portfolio is looking quite well just wish they paid dividends.
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What changed that is making their stock go up? Any new announcements or something?
DarkManX4lf said:
What changed that is making their stock go up? Any new announcements or something?
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Q2 earnings. It was a loss, but less of a loss than analysts predicted. lol
DarkManX4lf said:
What changed that is making their stock go up? Any new announcements or something?
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Maybe the actual launch of lte
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Network vision showing improvements
ktrotter11 said:
Maybe the actual launch of lte
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It's as simple as they did better than people were expecting. They're still highly leveraged which is risky, but their improved cash flow suggests some margin of safety business-wise. Also, they've done very well so far in improving customer service and expanding their network. That wasn't a bad day for myself either...
I wish network Vision would come to the nyc area sooner.
Sell! Sell! Sell! lol. Only in these fabulous economic times can a company post losses for a couple straight years and then as soon as they post losses that aren't as bad as predicted, they become a company that people want to invest their money in. Wasn't too long ago bankruptcy was rumored to be an option. lol. Hopefully, it keeps up, they can use it to help secure loans for NV.
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Sell! Sell! Sell! lol. Only in these fabulous economic times can a company post losses for a couple straight years and then as soon as they post losses that aren't as bad as predicted, they become a company that people want to invest their money in. Wasn't too long ago bankruptcy was rumored to be an option. lol. Hopefully, it keeps up, they can use it to help secure loans for NV.
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Once S hits the $5.00 mark as long as it continues to show signs of a turnaround it should increase in price quickly.
well if you like 'em so much, why don't you just marry 'em?
¡P
coorsleftfield said:
Really really liking them.
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Like Murder Boner liking them?
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advancedbasic said:
It's as simple as they did better than people were expecting. They're still highly leveraged which is risky, but their improved cash flow suggests some margin of safety business-wise. Also, they've done very well so far in improving customer service and expanding their network. That wasn't a bad day for myself either...
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As long time Sprint customer I will agree that their customer no-service has changed to customer service. They have done a lot of improvements to right that ship, not to mention some of their plans are very nice, unlimited data... what other carrier has that now (unless grandfathered in)
Glad others feel this way and not just me. I bought it awhile ago when I knew they were getting the iphone, NV was rolling out, and LTE would be out soon. Took a couple dips on me, but it's doing well now! This was the first stock I've ever bought too.....figured I'd buy something I at least knew a lot about. What are other's opinions of a relative short term high point? In my head 6 months ago I thought $5 would be my sell point but I've read recently that that is the point it's ok for fund managers to buy so it will probably go up more from there. Just wondering what other people thought.
I think the new iPhone will give them another boost as people figure out that Sprint LTE is real and they can get unlimited fast data on Sprint.
coorsleftfield said:
I think the new iPhone will give them another boost as people figure out that Sprint LTE is real and they can get unlimited fast data on Sprint.
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I pray people don't figure this out. Sprint's data speeds TANKED when the iPhone hit, and you can be assured that an LTE capable iPhone will do the exact same thing...fricking hipsters.