Google/Samsung event = pathetic? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Why are Google and Samsung are so bad?
I'm sure that comparing to Apple events is a bit unfair, since no one could sell "new" featured like Jobs... But come the hell on!
You are a multibillion dollar corporation; please hire (full-time, if needed) an actor completely well versed in the product being sold and being able to deliver it like a brand new feature (never even attempted in the industry) to consumers. I know you cannot hire Mr. Jobs, but come on! Is NOONE on the face of this Earth as good as him?

Ya poor delivery I agree but u gotta admit the ics looks pretty AWESOME!!! If anyone doesn't know u can watch the event live on ustream.

Unfortunately, no indication of a Sprint/WiMAX version. Disappointing.

InkPouchMan said:
Unfortunately, no indication of a Sprint/WiMAX version. Disappointing.
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Even Sprint is moving away from Wimax.
It'll come to Sprint with LTE.
Possibly be exclusive to Verizon for a little bit.

mattykinsx said:
Even Sprint is moving away from Wimax.
It'll come to Sprint with LTE.
Possibly be exclusive to Verizon for a little bit.
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Why would it go to sprint? Wimax is going out and lte wont be here for a while. Maybe you can use it on sprints new lte in 2 years lol!

speedy0339 said:
Why would it go to sprint? Wimax is going out and lte wont be here for a while. Maybe you can use it on sprints new lte in 2 years lol!
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Did you just ask why Google's dev device would go to Sprint?
...The same reason that it went to all the other carriers?
While they may be exclusive to Verizon for a bit, it would be just about the most retarded decision possible to start being exclusive with Android.

mattykinsx said:
Did you just ask why Google's dev device would go to Sprint?
...The same reason that it went to all the other carriers?
While they may be exclusive to Verizon for a bit, it would be just about the most retarded decision possible to start being exclusive with Android.
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I lol'd at how awesome this response was
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Apple puts on a good show, I never really thought Android had to. I only care about what it does, not how its presented. I'm not the least bit disappointed.

I like the phone and ICS but I agree the presentation was making me sleepy. Go ahead and brag with over inflated numbers in the beginning. Show your over exaggerated ego that people watched because they either love it or hate. Your in China god damn it let me see some kung fu or something. But, the phone was really nice and ICS is the shizzz. I wish they outlined the boring geek stuff like if hardware accelerated gui was being enabled. O well.

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I lol'd at how awesome this response was
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Yes why would it go to sprint? Their 4G technology is going out so google isnt going to put old tech in their new phone. Also Sprint's data is terrible and slow

speedy0339 said:
Yes why would it go to sprint? Their 4G technology is going out so google isnt going to put old tech in their new phone. Also Sprint's data is terrible and slow
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It's pretty nice if you live somewhere decent.
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Robbzilla said:
It's pretty nice if you live somewhere decent.
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I live in North Phoenix in a VERY nice neighborhood

Thread jacked by conflicting views. I believe the OP is about how Google puts up a boring show* even with it's vast amount of money saved up in it's piggy bank. But, we can size up our e - d***s if you guys want.
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Thread jacked by conflicting views. I believe the OP is about how Google puts up a boring show* even with it's vast amount of money saved up in it's piggy bank. But, we can size up our e - d***s if you guys want.
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Sorry but sprint is bad in my area for some reason. I have 4 out of 6 bars and im getting .17mbps on a good day. Makes me so bad. And we dont have 4g at all in phoenix officially.

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Sorry but sprint is bad in my area for some reason. I have 4 out of 6 bars and im getting .17mbps on a good day. Makes me so bad. And we dont have 4g at all in phoenix officially.
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You don't have to apologize to me I get the same 3g speeds with all 4 of my different phones. I luckily have access to either Wifi or Wimax almost everywhere I go locally. But, honestly this has nothing to do with OP. Out of respect of the OP one of our fellow forum member I think the thread should stay on topic. I ain't mad though.

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Sorry but sprint is bad in my area for some reason. I have 4 out of 6 bars and im getting .17mbps on a good day. Makes me so bad. And we dont have 4g at all in phoenix officially.
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then maybe you should just switch carriers and stop whining like a little *****

newalker91 said:
There are more polite ways to say that.
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Yes, there is. But those other ways have been explored and discussed to death and this debate still continues on a daily basis.
I think it simple:
Unhappy with your carrier? Don't sign another contract for a new phone, switch.
Now, back to the Event/Galaxy Nexus...

mattykinsx said:
Did you just ask why Google's dev device would go to Sprint?
...The same reason that it went to all the other carriers?
While they may be exclusive to Verizon for a bit, it would be just about the most retarded decision possible to start being exclusive with Android.
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+1. The rumor is that Verizon will have it for a month or two(that's why they passed on getting a GSII variant) but I think sprint will be the last to get it considering they were the last to get the Nexus S. Google will prob worry about rolling it out to all the carriers as is first then worry about adding a wimax radio for sprint.

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Because unlike you, Google and Samsung are forward-thinking. They see Sprint's efforts to roll out nationwide LTE coverage and the backhaul being done to the 3G network, therefore the network footprints will be there for the device to run on. While some people on this forum continue to find it more productive to whine than to research, a select few will welcome this device with open arms on the network in its current state knowing what there is ahead of us.
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I'm going to go with newalker on this one. Not like I go into debate threads all the time and pick some.one to side with. I usually find my own opinion which is slightly differenr than every one elses but... ya us good geeks arnt mad and angery at to the point we yell often and hate on sprint. Sprints run by people. People make mistakes and sprint make a rather big one with wimax but I'm not pissed at all. I'm glad they figured it out sooner than later and are going to try to push out lte really really fast. We all have to apreciate what we have. 2 years ago we were so very far away from where we are today. 2 more years from now the whole dang sprint vision will be done. That's sooo fricken fast! I'm more than happy with my sg2 and 3g, most places have wifi and I personally feel blessed tech In phones is where it is. I'm still aww struck in where we are today. If people could take a step back and take a few deeps breaths and look at the big picture of where the big 3 have taken us in the last 5 years and what 5 more will bring you will be fine. Americas need to pump the breaks and be ok with the great stuff we got. Adroid phones are coming out so fast and so many its mind blowing. Every one should come to my island of Kauai for a bit to see how nice a little slower pace of living is and you will apreciate your phone and service at hand ( unless you got sub 300kbs serving in which case I'm sorry for you ). Idk why I said all this but we all gotta apreciate what we got
EDIT- it would be cool to have a little more ads for updates and androids but eh. AMD doesn't have tons of adds and I'm a AMD guy and I don't mind. Intel pumps out adds like apple. I almost like having a phone or knowing what all the masses ( iphone ) don't know/have. And I really like our little xda club

This isn't a debate thread. Just another thread jacked into one. O well, another thread that should get shut down.

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I couldn't help myself... Jumped from the EVO.

Oh my goodness, I can't get over how slim and light the Nexus is and how beautiful the screen is!
I almost got a G2 a couple days ago so I understand. Might still get one or a nexus 2.
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you should be posting in the Nexus s section lol enjoy the phone
Lol...the sharks.
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I'm going to wait a few weeks and see if there's any chance of a Sprint Nexus S. If not, I'll probably get it too. T-Mo is as cheap and even with a regular 3G radio under HSPA it's much faster than Sprint's 3G.
You'll all be back when the next version of the Evo comes out. ;-)
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I'm going to wait a few weeks and see if there's any chance of a Sprint Nexus S. If not, I'll probably get it too. T-Mo is as cheap and even with a regular 3G radio under HSPA it's much faster than Sprint's 3G.
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This is true. And the individual plans are pretty much the same now. Sprint needs a nexus. But the knight is coming soon. Its basically the G2 with sense.
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My contract was exactly the same price. The only difference now is that I have 1500 "anytime" minutes as opposed to Sprint's unlimited mobile-to-mobile (which I can live without).
not bashing anyone that get's the nexus S but i messed with a buddies and imho it feels samsungish cheap and plastic i DO love the screen and how the phone has a slight curve
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You'll all be back when the next version of the Evo comes out. ;-)
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Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!
If only it wasn't a Samsung, though having Google involved should speed up the response time on software fixes.
No thanks, its definately not a phone worth jumping carriers for...Actually I dont think that type of phone exists. Its a minor improvement to the epic, on a crap network. I aint missing out on anything, however there is a dual core 1.5 gz monster that is going to appear in a few weeks......(cough *Evo2*cough) and that will be exciting to see. Nexus S, not so much.
Yea, made by Samsung killed any excitement I had for this phone right away! I would like to play with one in person to check out the screen, the curve and of course 2.3
But the only phone that made me consider jumping carriers was the g2, even then I couldn't see it, but definitely not for anythign Samsung. I do hope being a google dev phone that it is still somewhat as successful as the n1 was... for the sake of androids future.
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Yea, made by Samsung killed any excitement I had for this phone right away! I would like to play with one in person to check out the screen, the curve and of course 2.3
But the only phone that made me consider jumping carriers was the g2, even then I couldn't see it, but definitely not for anythign Samsung. I do hope being a google dev phone that it is still somewhat as successful as the n1 was... for the sake of androids future.
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Not sure if thats gonna happen. People are already calling BS on TMO for claiming that its really not unlocked....even though best buy said it is....So people are ending up paying alot more for it than they expected....Shame on TMO. lol
Congrats on the phone! Like many others said, it is unfortunate that it is a Samsung, hopefully Google backs it well. Unfortunately, with every Samsung phone I have ever had the hardware was complete crap, always had problems. AND I find it interesting that the phone came out today and there still is not a root method for the phone. I remember before the Evo even came out we had a root method. I think that this shows something for the developer in interest in the phone itself. Only time will tell and I may be proved wrong, but so far its not looking too good.
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Congrats on the phone! Like many others said, it is unfortunate that it is a Samsung, hopefully Google backs it well. Unfortunately, with every Samsung phone I have ever had the hardware was complete crap, always had problems. AND I find it interesting that the phone came out today and there still is not a root method for the phone. I remember before the Evo even came out we had a root method. I think that this shows something for the developer in interest in the phone itself. Only time will tell and I may be proved wrong, but so far its not looking too good.
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epic was also rooted before its release.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=479959#post479959
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epic was also rooted before its release.
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Hmmm not sure what your trying to say here. That is pretty interesting maybe I am wrong about support but in just black and white it seems like thats the case.
It is Samsung ... but it's also the only Samsung phone I'd even consider buying. Gotta agree though, got a good thing going with the Evo and Sprint is great around here - so it wouldn't make sense to switch phones ... let alone a carrier. And even if T-Mo speeds are faster on 3G than Sprints ... depending on coverage, that still doesn't excuse the lack of HSPA+ or no SD Card ... I dunno. I still hear people complaining about signal / reception with T-Mo. Just doesn't really make sense when you think of what is around the corner.
There will always be better phones. Always. But there will only be one (annual) true Google phone. That's it's main selling point for me. Everything Google (and a lot of top 3rd party developers) makes in 2011 will be based on the Nexus S.

Rant Here about Verizon not giving a date and pushing this back every week

now im not on verizon and the only reason im coming over is for this phone. (BE WARNED - RANT COMING)
I've been on sprint for about 10 years now, the past 3 years i have been on an employee plan paying 30$/month for unlimited everything. The sad thing is, i feel bad for the people paying full price on sprint because im located in Rochester NY and sprint service should be great here but i rarely get service indoor's recently. 4G is a joke and Rochester was one of the first places to get it turned on. So im happy to move to a better network and brought myself to pay the extra $ for the service.... so enough about how sprints network is going down hill and on to how Verizon F***ED this launch up royally.
Maybe i hate Verizon for not mentioning a word about this phone. Maybe its because the Galaxy Nexus has been out for almost a month overseas. Maybe its because i feel like not only have i been waiting for this phone but i've also been waiting for Google to release an exciting new OS. Maybe it's the fact that i KNOW this phone can compete in the market as one of the best phones and not to mention its the flagship phone from Google that can kick start features like NFC and such. but then i think to myself... What did i just see when i turned on the TV or when i went to that website. ADs for the RAZR... THE RAZR.... ARE U KIDDING ME?
okay okay, i understand, back in 2003 it was the coolest phone on the block. TIMES HAVE CHANGED, Verizon knewwwwww they were getting the Nexus, and they hate they can't call it Droid. the name droid (personal opinion) is UGLY. Im not saying Galaxy Nexus is any better but i dont want to feel like i have a robot in my pocket. The Razr just came at the wrong time and VZ spent to much money with s$itty advertising like they always do.
I was really really hoping to see some type of great marketing strategy by verizon starting this week. Something along the lines of this:
Mon Night Football. 5 to 10 second commercial, completely white background and just out the nexus right in the middle of the high def screen. no music. mahyeb a piano key or smething, with just a shot of this beauty... then at the very end, flash Verizon so people know, that phone is coming to VZ, wow!!?? (and yes i would love to see a "with Google" slapped in there somewhere but we all know Verizon would have a heart attack promoting anyone but themselves)
and keep showing the commercial every day with a count down until the release date (which i was hoping the 9th) so it would have been even sweeter to see that commercial knowing i can freakin get that this week!?!
people know the verizon brand, they like the verizon brand becuase its associated with a good network. FOCUS ON YOUR PRODUCT, THE BEST ONE U HAVE. make people say, woahhhhhh what was that???? and im not talking about the people like us who wait and wait and wait knowing we will hold out for this, im talking about your average consumer, the one who see's a product and says, damn thats good looking, i WANT that. i WANT THAT NEOWWWZ!
(hell i even made a s$hitty youtube video to get my point across)
but no. No commercials, no internet Ad's, only one spot on thier website to put your email in a box (which NO ONE likes giving out) for more information....
Verizon, you messed up. You had a chance to make a boat load even more of cash and you missed out. im not even your customer yet and i dread the fact ill be stuck with you for two years.
and now we have this, no Google wallet. im highly confident once developers get their hands on this phone they will find a way to make it work, but instead Verizon points the finger and says its not them. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD GOOGLE NOT WANT TO HELP ITS OWN NEW SERVICE?!? It just doesnt make sense.........
alright, i just blacked out with anger/frustration while typing this so i hope it makes sense and i hope other people see what im seeing...
oh, and one last note.. This ones for you Google. i hope you paid attention to this whole launch. i hope you learned your leson about dancing with the RED DEVIL. They will take your masterpiece and piss all over it.
In my opinion the main problem with this launch is that Google and Samsung allowed Verizon to take control of it. I hate to compare to Apple, but they take full control of their product launches and do not allow the carriers to tamper in any way. Samsung and Google should have grown some balls and had the phone launched their way. If Verizon did not want to play ball then they just release the unlocked version here as they did in the past.
Cool story bro. Lol @ video. Lame but funny.
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jfgirard0423 said:
No rant here
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how?
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
jfgirard0423 said:
special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Maybe I should talk to my account Rep.
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No ETA on this yet how sad just got off the phone with Costco district manager he just received an email about the push back could be awhile
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jfgirard0423 said:
special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Yeah, and you can bet that the resolution will be quiet and nothing else ever said of this outage.
"Isolated" will be the spin. I was going to head over to Verizon and eBay the GSM GNEX I have, but I just can't fork over $85 for a tiered plan when I have unlimited on ATT for $40 after taxes (2nd line on plan).
Oh well.
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
jfgirard0423 said:
sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
ericshmerick said:
Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Haha, I don't blame you. Didn't mean to come off as a jerk if I did.
Hell, I'd be doing the same. Enjoy it!
lol the op is a joke. He probably wasted 15-20minutes of his life to complain to a whole bunch of people he doesn't eve know ... ahhaha
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Not saying I necessarily don't believe you, just saying the "don't sell yet" thing is pretty hard...they probably aren't even allowing the devices to activate on the network yet.
Beyond that, not a single person knows the date it's releasing now. The update said "indefinite", meaning nobody knows for sure. It's just suspected for next week, at the moment.
I won't promise anything but I will call rep tomorrow for some info
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Thanks for the reply king shady, u prob just wasted 5 mins reading even tho u don't care lol. All in good fun tho, just pissed at vz, ill get one sooner or later
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I disagree.
Seriously. Think about it from Verizon's perspective. Why would they put money and advertising behind the Nexus phone when they have the Rezound and Razr that just came out and are of similar specs? They control the user experience on those devices and can put their subscription apps preloaded on them. Not true with the Galaxy Nexus. Of course they're going to market the hell out of the devices that make them more money.
That said, I agree that Samsung/Google should have taken more charge with this launch. Nexus devices are about no compromise, pure Android experiences, and no carrier/OEM tampering. What I've seen of the Verizon version has contradicted this in a few ways before the phone is even out. Makes me very happy I got the GSM version. But at least the LTE one is unlocked and there will be plenty of ROMs and support for it.

Worth dumping LTE for this?

I've been wanting the Galaxy Nexus since the announcement but never got around to getting it. I ended up getting a GS2 Skyrocket and have fallen in love with LTE.
Do you think it's worth dumping my skyrocket for the GN? What's the current state of ROM development?
I dumped the skyrocket but I don't live in lte market. And I don't load roms. Stock gnex ics > skyrocket touchwiz
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This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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Coming out in a few months
I kind of miss the stock Google experience.. once a new version of Android is announced, you're the first to get it Kinda wish the GN is $529 like the N1 was
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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LTE has a huge battery drain.
GSM variant of Galaxy Nexus has better battery life and less mAh
Lots of good roms. switch to verizon and get lte too. To be honest if verizon had a GSII I would think twice about my purchase. I love ICS but the camera on this phone drives me nuts. Plus I don't hate Touch Wiz.
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No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).
havent experienced the sg2 myself so i doont know how good it is, but i got the nexus last saturday and i love it more and more everyday. AWESOME PHONE!
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LTE has a huge battery drain.
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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
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For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).
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OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.
If budget permits, I would say yes, go for the GN. But if I were you at a time like this, I would wait for MWC (Mobile World Congress) where Samsung is allegedly announcing the Galaxy S3 and see what they have to offer in that aspect.
I'm pretty much stuck to AT&T because I get a huge discount off my monthly bill through work
I totally forgot about the Galaxy S3.. hummm
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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps.
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Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Willieumm said:
Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Ummmm... Mobile Hot Spot! Verizon has yet to throttle me on 4G... I use atleast 12-15 GB's / month. That is where it pays off to have Verizon LTE and unlimited data...
Lol again, Verizon is not an option for me. I pay close to $100 a month right now for 4 lines + unlimited data on 3 lines. With Verizon, I'd be paying over $200
Honestly HSPA+ speed are good enough for me in a mobile device. I browse, stream a lot and speeds are good enough. Average around 5Mbps is good for me. Sure I will take lte if there is an option, but it's not a big deal. Finally it comes down personal choice, if you are teethering may be lte speeds are good but for normal usage no big deal.
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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.
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Fair enough, but the only ones I've seen complaining about their Galaxy Nexus are the ones getting the US carrier-Nexuses. On overall GSM owners seems happier.
Which may or may not be relevant to OP, so it's worth getting out there.
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To OP: I don't have LTE, so I have no idea what I would be dumping, but this is my general take on the Galaxy Nexus (from another thread)
Seriously though: I think this phone is the best phone I've ever had. For those returning it, it probably wasn't.
This phone was hyped like nothing I have ever seen, and lots of people probably bought it on the wrong premises. Some people probably bought this phone thinking this would be the Android Jesus-device who would save the souls of Apple-users en-masse by its presence alone. A device which could slay iStore employees by simply taking it out of your pocket. A gadget so shiny, the sun would feel its competition. Etc.
To those people, this device probably didn't deliver. They probably returned it.
To me though this phone is a godsend. Not only is the HW pretty good, it is also 100% open. It's a device whose openness is unprecedented in other types of phones.
I can compile Android from source and flash on this device. Using open tools which I've also built from source. It's not just something I say that you "can" do. I've built the source and deployed on my phone. No hacking or closed drivers or protocols required. Why? Just because I can. It gives you a feeling of actual ownership which is hard to describe or match.
If I want to run nothing but stock but rooted, I can do that without any need to meddle deeply with the phone. In fact, if all I want is a custom recovery to do nandroid backups, I can do that without flashing or modifying the phone in any way.
How? It's easy. I can boot my phone off a boot-image (and hence recovery-image too) hosted outside the phone. I can boot my phone from code hosted outside it. No hacking required. Absolutely none.
This is what a Nexus device is all about. It's all fully open. It does what you ask it. Even if it is retarded. Even if it is singing the Hello Kitty theme song while in the bootloader. Because the device is open. It's yours. It's yours to do exactly what you want with it.
The openness of this thing is amazing. For me, there is absolutely no other phone I would consider. Others might land at some other choice and that is perfectly fine too.
People returning this phone are probably doing it because they followed internet-hype and didn't research what they were actually buying.
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If you think that sounds awesome, LTE is probably worth dumping. If you think "that sounds... like something I dont care about at all", then probably not.
Had the Verizon GN. Was surprised to find that I actually had 4g where I lived. Got ~35mbps down and ~7mbps up. With mild use, was finding it difficult to get the battery to last through the day.
Returned it, bought the unlocked GSM version, popped an at&t similar in, and now my battery lasts all day with almost twice as much use and 30% left at night. Pages load at roughly the same speed. Call quality is better (maybe just where I live, but the Verizon version was always a little "glitchy").
Just my experience with LTE and the nexus.
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I have both phones and love both, skyrocket gives me 2 days in one charge easily, gnex only about 10-14 hours with extended battery but love stock ics.
If you already have the skyrocket then stick with it, its a great phone, if you dont have neither, get the Gnex gsm.
For now, LTE is the future. I carry a spare battery if and when needed. Battery technology will always be playing catch up.

Whats Next? Where Will We Go From Here?

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I am curious as to what device if you were to switch would you be switching to?Seeing as Sprint is moving in the direction of LTE very fast starting with the launch of its first 2 devices coming this weekend the Galaxy Nexus and the LG Viper, who is ready for the switch?
Evo 4g LTE?- Definitley an interest for me
Galaxy Nex?
LG Viper?
Galaxy S3?
Samsung Note?
iPhone 5?
Just wanted some thoughts thank you
I'm going to stay with what I have until LTE becomes available in my market I think. If I switch to an LTE phone that means I have to go back to 3G until LTE arrives here. No thanks.
dmexs said:
I'm going to stay with what I have until LTE becomes available in my market I think. If I switch to an LTE phone that means I have to go back to 3G until LTE arrives here. No thanks.
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this.
the lte upgrade will take a while to reach significant amounts of people, and wimax will be supported for another year at least.
i'll be sticking with my e4gt for some time, dev'ing is still growing, phone is a beast.
i never buy phone on release date, wait for in-depth reviews of HW, and wait to see what kind of dev interest follows. 3 months at least.
(that being said, most likely an htc or samsung...)
Well I'm giving the Gnex a whirl & if I like it, gonna hold onto it till the GS3 comes. I had my eye on the Note too but if it ships with anything less then ICS, I'll pass. I thought about the EVO LTE but any form of Sense is now a deal breaker for me. At least Samsung's TW is not so in your face like Sense is.
Half of those phones you mentioned are downgrades from SGS2 and others arent even out yet. When i upgrade i prefer to jump at least one generation so i will be rocking this phone for a while. Also lte is not a reality yet and the city im moving to in several months is not mentioned at all on the initial rollout. I am personally excited to see the roms for this phone after ics is released to public and the source comes out. Those next few months will be awesome and keep me satisfied until 2013 i bet.
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Im staying right here for at least a year and a half. Lte wont hit my region for at least 10-14 months and my WiMax speeds are freaking awesome. So I am very pleased with my ET4G.
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Most likely staying put until SG3 comes out but I'll give each new phone a look. LTE will not factor into my decision as it's unlikely I'll see it in my area for a few years yet.
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Im staying right here for at least a year and a half.
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I wished I had your patience, Lol.
Sprints lte he will not be deployed in my area until the end of the year. So it looks like my next upgrade most likely will be the galaxy s3, Or maybe even a windows 8 phone.
That being said I love this phone so that might not happen for a long time.
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Half of those phones you mentioned are downgrades from SGS2 and others arent even out yet. When i upgrade i prefer to jump at least one generation so i will be rocking this phone for a while. Also lte is not a reality yet and the city im moving to in several months is not mentioned at all on the initial rollout. I am personally excited to see the roms for this phone after ics is released to public and the source comes out. Those next few months will be awesome and keep me satisfied until 2013 i bet.
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I undersatnd thatv I am just curious as to haw people , actually this community as I could care less about the uneducated masses who by phones because uhuhuh everybody has one so I need it, but our community of phone nerds ( or super heros depends on who you ask) is thinking.
I have already commited to following my fav dev lol so I dont know which device Ill be getting either.
haha
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this.
the lte upgrade will take a while to reach significant amounts of people, and wimax will be supported for another year at least.
i'll be sticking with my e4gt for some time, dev'ing is still growing, phone is a beast.
i never buy phone on release date, wait for in-depth reviews of HW, and wait to see what kind of dev interest follows. 3 months at least.
(that being said, most likely an htc or samsung...)
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im only basing this off of my inside info ( which isnt much prob lees than most of you) but it appears we will be supporting wimax in the new roll out of LTE as for what I understand is sprint will now be a tri-band network wimx 2.5ghz LTE 1.9ghz and 800mhz voice ( eventually 800mhz LTE) so I am pretty sure we will still have our support for long after a year or so( dont quote me thou i mean this is Sprint we are talking about lol)
wimax will be supported till at least 2015 which means one two year upgrade cycle. long enough for all of us to enjoy wimax if we have it and for others to enjoy network vision and lte asvit expands.
Sgs3
My next phone will be the new iPhone later this year unless Google wows me with the new nexus hardware. I am sick of dealing with slow and unpredictable updates. Even the nexus s didn't receive ics on sprint until a couple of weeks ago.
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You know i find myself asking this everytime i have sex.
Jk i never had sex
Forever alone
I will be considering the SGSIII. If it knocks my socks off I'll buy it and sell my E4GT. WiMax is only available in tiny little pockets around San Diego (and its unofficial), so the LTE rollout isn't holding me back as I don't use 4G anyways. If the SGSIII doesn't do it for me I'll be using this phone until 9/15/2013 then see how things look, both from a device and carrier perspective.
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My next phone will be the new iPhone later this year unless Google wows me with the new nexus hardware. I am sick of dealing with slow and unpredictable updates. Even the nexus s didn't receive ics on sprint until a couple of weeks ago.
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You expect to be wowed by a new iPhone? Have you been wowed by Any iPhone?
The iPhone ui/ux has been largely unchanged in years. Android on the other hand...
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BigRitz said:
I undersatnd thatv I am just curious as to haw people , actually this community as I could care less about the uneducated masses who by phones because uhuhuh everybody has one so I need it, but our community of phone nerds ( or super heros depends on who you ask) is thinking.
I have already commited to following my fav dev lol so I dont know which device Ill be getting either.
haha
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On my old phone the best roms and themes came out of the woodwork after all the mainstream devs jumped ship. With so many of these being sold we will likely see some great things by the end of the year. People are still drooling over this phone when they see it. Today I was in a busy lunch spot for guys in suits and while in line then eating as I played with my baby I saw them all stealing glances at her as they glared at their iphones in disgust.
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And for the record I will not be getting rid of this ET4G as I have learned so much from it and this community it now has centimental value to me, that i havent yet had with other phones(go ahead laugh i was while writing it ) but yea the touch has inspired me to learn new things and take my time learning.
For me, its coming down to the GSIII or the next iPhone. The nerd in me is enticed by the iPhone, but im sure ill be getting the GSIII.
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The nerd in me is enticed by the iPhone... .
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that statement makes no sense to me...
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I've been liking Sprint recently.

Really really liking them.
coorsleftfield said:
Really really liking them.
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I thought I was the only one. I made a few thousand at the close of business Friday. My portfolio is looking quite well just wish they paid dividends.
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What changed that is making their stock go up? Any new announcements or something?
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What changed that is making their stock go up? Any new announcements or something?
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Q2 earnings. It was a loss, but less of a loss than analysts predicted. lol
DarkManX4lf said:
What changed that is making their stock go up? Any new announcements or something?
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Maybe the actual launch of lte
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Network vision showing improvements
ktrotter11 said:
Maybe the actual launch of lte
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It's as simple as they did better than people were expecting. They're still highly leveraged which is risky, but their improved cash flow suggests some margin of safety business-wise. Also, they've done very well so far in improving customer service and expanding their network. That wasn't a bad day for myself either...
I wish network Vision would come to the nyc area sooner.
Sell! Sell! Sell! lol. Only in these fabulous economic times can a company post losses for a couple straight years and then as soon as they post losses that aren't as bad as predicted, they become a company that people want to invest their money in. Wasn't too long ago bankruptcy was rumored to be an option. lol. Hopefully, it keeps up, they can use it to help secure loans for NV.
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Sell! Sell! Sell! lol. Only in these fabulous economic times can a company post losses for a couple straight years and then as soon as they post losses that aren't as bad as predicted, they become a company that people want to invest their money in. Wasn't too long ago bankruptcy was rumored to be an option. lol. Hopefully, it keeps up, they can use it to help secure loans for NV.
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Once S hits the $5.00 mark as long as it continues to show signs of a turnaround it should increase in price quickly.
well if you like 'em so much, why don't you just marry 'em?
¡P
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Really really liking them.
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Like Murder Boner liking them?
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advancedbasic said:
It's as simple as they did better than people were expecting. They're still highly leveraged which is risky, but their improved cash flow suggests some margin of safety business-wise. Also, they've done very well so far in improving customer service and expanding their network. That wasn't a bad day for myself either...
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As long time Sprint customer I will agree that their customer no-service has changed to customer service. They have done a lot of improvements to right that ship, not to mention some of their plans are very nice, unlimited data... what other carrier has that now (unless grandfathered in)
Glad others feel this way and not just me. I bought it awhile ago when I knew they were getting the iphone, NV was rolling out, and LTE would be out soon. Took a couple dips on me, but it's doing well now! This was the first stock I've ever bought too.....figured I'd buy something I at least knew a lot about. What are other's opinions of a relative short term high point? In my head 6 months ago I thought $5 would be my sell point but I've read recently that that is the point it's ok for fund managers to buy so it will probably go up more from there. Just wondering what other people thought.
I think the new iPhone will give them another boost as people figure out that Sprint LTE is real and they can get unlimited fast data on Sprint.
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I think the new iPhone will give them another boost as people figure out that Sprint LTE is real and they can get unlimited fast data on Sprint.
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I pray people don't figure this out. Sprint's data speeds TANKED when the iPhone hit, and you can be assured that an LTE capable iPhone will do the exact same thing...fricking hipsters.

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