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[Q] Just ordered MHL-HDMI cable - will it transmit Spotify to my AV receiver?

I'm looking for a way to play both Spotify from my SGS2 through my Onkyo AV receiver to my speakers, as well as just play videos from my SGS2 through the Onkyo so that I can watch videos from sites like charlierose.com (which uses flowplayer), etc. on my TV.
Should this work? Anyone received their cable from play.com sooner than expected? Hoping it doesn't take the 1-2 weeks.

And what about this cable ?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ca-156-usb-hdmi-adapter-cable-for-nokia-53688
It is for Nokia but Nokia also supports MHL so I assume it can be used for the Galxy S2 ??

That doesn't look like a MHL cable to me; the small end should have a 5-pin micro USB, and the MHL-to-HDMI conversion requires a bridge chip, which needs to be powered, which is why the other MHL adapters require you to plug in a charger.

mermaidkiller said:
And what about this cable ?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ca-156-usb-hdmi-adapter-cable-for-nokia-53688
It is for Nokia but Nokia also supports MHL so I assume it can be used for the Galxy S2 ??
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it does not work . I have seen that it does not work being mentioned at many places
one eg:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14433957&postcount=30
edit : also its a usb host cable for nokia and not for samsung

drgopoos said:
it does not work . I have seen that it does not work being mentioned at many places
one eg:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14433957&postcount=30
edit : also its a usb host cable for nokia and not for samsung
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its actually not a usb cable at all.
its a second cable packaged with the n8 that plugs into a mini-hdmi port on the top of the phone converting it to a regular size hdmi socket to connect to a screen..
still useless for the sgs2

My mistake
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MHL Adapter for Nitro HD

Now for all you Nitro HD users who didn't know that it is possible to stream video through the Micro USB port, well yes you can That port is actually a MHL port (Mobile High-def Link), which combines both Micro USB and HDMI features together, and all you need is a MHL adapter to connect your phone to your HDTV and stream movies while having your phone charged.
Now my question goes to those who know about these things. Any idea which MHL adapter is compatible with this phone, or can we use any adapter from any maker? And also, has anybody tried using the MHL capability on this phone?

Well, one would think it wouldn't be proprietary based on the fact that all MHL enabled phones use this as a standard now. I have used a MHL cable from an HTC Raider on a Galaxy S II and it worked just fine.

Does anyone else hear a slight grinding/grainy noise when you plug in the Micro USB? It always makes me feel like I'm breaking it.

any mhl adapter should work.
i use the mhl adapter from samsung infuse and it works! but remember to plug in power for it to works.

netnerd said:
any mhl adapter should work.
i use the mhl adapter from samsung infuse and it works! but remember to plug in power for it to works.
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plug in power? what do you mean? I thought the whole idea behind mhl is that your phone will get charged via hdmi while streaming through it.

aquariuz23 said:
plug in power? what do you mean? I thought the whole idea behind mhl is that your phone will get charged via hdmi while streaming through it.
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I think if the tv supports mhl mode then you don't need to plug in power.
If tv just has hdmi port then you need to plug in power.
The mhl adapter has microusb port for power input.

netnerd said:
I think if the tv supports mhl mode then you don't need to plug in power.
If tv just has hdmi port then you need to plug in power.
The mhl adapter has microusb port for power input.
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hmmm...interesting. thnx for the heads up

Picked one up myself... streamed a 720p video beautifully.
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i just tested the mhl adapter (from samsung infuse) and stream porno on 42" hdtv, i cant believe i can see so much details clearly! haha

netnerd said:
i just tested the mhl adapter (from samsung infuse) and stream porno on 42" hdtv, i cant believe i can see so much details clearly! haha
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Wow really. LOL. That great.
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akfritz said:
Picked one up myself... streamed a 720p video beautifully.
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Which one and where?

Mine should be arriving on Thursday - just grabbed one of the many off amazon...

So my bro got me an Accell MHL adapter for Christmas and I'm finding it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't even provide a charge. I'm thinking its physical dimensions are such that the connector into the phone doesn't go in far enough (kinda LG's fault for making the port recessed, kinda their fault for making the connector so damn fat). So, if you guys find one that works for cheap, do you think you could hit us with a link?
TL/DR, Accell's doesn't work, please post ones that do
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Malnilion said:
So my bro got me an Accell MHL adapter for Christmas and I'm finding it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't even provide a charge. I'm thinking its physical dimensions are such that the connector into the phone doesn't go in far enough (kinda LG's fault for making the port recessed, kinda their fault for making the connector so damn fat). So, if you guys find one that works for cheap, do you think you could hit us with a link?
TL/DR, Accell's doesn't work, please post ones that do
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it needs power for mhl to works. did you try to reboot the phone after you plug in mhl and power input for mhl? i tried on samsung infuse mhl adapter and it works!

Yeah, I provided power and performed every possible sequence of hooking it all up that I could think of and also rebooted several times. I really think it's the form factor of the Accell connector combined with our slightly recessed port that causes it to not go in far enough. I just need someone to give me a suggestion of a brand to buy that they know firsthand works well with our P930.
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See item B0068UML3A at Amazon.com. I received mine today and it works like a charm--and it costs only $8.99.

JGLChilly1 said:
See item B0068UML3A at Amazon.com. I received mine today and it works like a charm--and it costs only $8.99.
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It looks like that item is no longer available. I'm ordering B005NTHXYY, it's $9.19 and Prime eligible.

I can confirm that the MHL adapter that came packaged with the Samsung Infuse works great with the Nitro.
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I wonder if my mhl for gs2 can work with nitro hd

What if tv doesnt support mhl but has hdmi...i can still use it right? But my phone will be discharging the whole time...
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MHL cable for a normal tv (not a HD one)

I have a normal tv with video in/out ports. Is it possible to connect SGS2 to a normal tv (not a HD one) using the MHL cable? I have seen a video on YouTube where someone has connected the Galaxy S with a cable in 3.5 mm audio port of the mobile to a tv set for a video output. Will this be possible with SG2?
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AS far as i know this is not Possibile in Galaxy S2.
U can connect ur HD TV with HDMI Cable, but not standard TV with 3.5mm Jack.
i Dont know why SAMSUNG hasnt given this feature on GS2, it would be great if that feature was there.

Thanks for your reply. Can I connect to a non HD tv (normal tv) using HDMI/MHL cable?
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i suppose yes.
U can connect to any TV that has a support for HDMI. {not sure though}

I don't think non HD tv's have support for HDMI. Only HD tv's have I suppose.
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jasraja said:
I don't think non HD tv's have support for HDMI. Only HD tv's have I suppose.
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But u could always use a VGA to HDMI adapter & then connect GS2 to the TV

dharmil007 said:
But u could always use a VGA to HDMI adapter & then connect GS2 to the TV
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Thanks I will try this.
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dharmil007 said:
But u could always use a VGA to HDMI adapter & then connect GS2 to the TV
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Really exist?...O_O thanks 4 info....i'm gonna search this...

MHL outputs a digital signal.
Standard TVs that do not have HDMI, with RCA jacks, take in an analog signal.
Something needs to convert the signal, so you need a Digital to Analog Converter, or DAC.
dharmil007 said:
AS far as i know this is not Possibile in Galaxy S2.
U can connect ur HD TV with HDMI Cable, but not standard TV with 3.5mm Jack.
i Dont know why SAMSUNG hasnt given this feature on GS2, it would be great if that feature was there.
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Probably because it would take more hardware to do so. Which increases production costs, and would have made the phone larger. There is a ton of stuff crammed into the phone as it is. It is basically a pocket sized computer.
If you can afford this phone, how can you not afford a TV that has an HDMI input?

I connected the MHL cable to a VISIO 720p television and it didn't work, I suppose that MHL sends 1080i/p signals only and your television must, at least, be able to handle this resolution and rescale it.

Omega Frost said:
I connected the MHL cable to a VISIO 720p television and it didn't work, I suppose that MHL sends 1080i/p signals only and your television must, at least, be able to handle this resolution and rescale it.
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Not true. Any tv with an HDMI input will work. Doesn't have to be 1080i/p. Did you plug in a power source?
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ctomgee said:
Not true. Any tv with an HDMI input will work. Doesn't have to be 1080i/p. Did you plug in a power source?
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Yes, I just got a complete greenish screen. On the other hand all FullHD capable televisions I tested worked perfectly.

Omega Frost said:
Yes, I just got a complete greenish screen. On the other hand all FullHD capable televisions I tested worked perfectly.
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Huh. That's very weird. There shouldn't be an issue with plugging it into a 720p. In fact, I don't think the video output will even be 720p, let alone 1080i/p, unless the output is a video that is that resolution.

ctomgee said:
Huh. That's very weird. There shouldn't be an issue with plugging it into a 720p. In fact, I don't think the video output will even be 720p, let alone 1080i/p, unless the output is a video that is that resolution.
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I think either the GS2 or the MHL adapter will upscale the image to 1080 regardless the resolution supported by the TV. But it's in fact weird because HD ready should support at least 1080i.

I have seen mini-USB to composite output cable (audio -left and right seperated- and S-Video output cables) for SGS2 on a shopping site but couldn't remember which one now. So it must be possible.

Omega Frost said:
I think either the GS2 or the MHL adapter will upscale the image to 1080 regardless the resolution supported by the TV. But it's in fact weird because HD ready should support at least 1080i.
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That could be. I can't test, as it works on I everything own... I don't own a TV or monitor that is less than 1080p.
barisahmet said:
I have seen mini-USB to composite output cable (audio -left and right seperated- and S-Video output cables) for SGS2 on a shopping site but couldn't remember which one now. So it must be possible.
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I have my doubts about this - at least, the part that it was for an SGS2. MHL is a digital signal. S-Video is analog. So either the cable was REALLY expensive, or maybe they were trying to pass off a micro-USB to S-Video cable that it (falsely) works for the SGS2? Or it was actually for an SGS1?

The green screen on MHL/HDMI output happens, because of non HDCP compliant TV. All content that we get out of the USB to HDMI adapter is copy protected (HDCP).
I noticed this while I wanted to connect it to as HDMI to SDI converter. Also no capture card will accept this signal. Only HDCP TV and monitor will work.
I'm trying to figure out now how I can get 1080p desktop and gallery output.

MHL on normal TV
I read HDMI on "normal" TV (not HD) works if you use VGA adaptator.
A person on the forum i saw, gives a links to buy one and it was 40$ (For MHL adaptator + VGA adaptor that you need to input in the MHL)

darki00 said:
I read HDMI on "normal" TV (not HD) works if you use VGA adaptator.
A person on the forum i saw, gives a links to buy one and it was 40$ (For MHL adaptator + VGA adaptor that you need to input in the MHL)
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Link? (I'm just curious)
My point above, is that the standard MHL adapter is only like $15. So it would be an additional cost to get ANOTHER adapter to plug that into a TV without an HDMI input. So $40 for that whole get-up would be more expensive. Less expensive than I thought it would be, but still more.
And based on what erzyk says in post 17, there is no guarantee this would work due to standard TVs not being HDCP compliant. But I'm just speculating.
Someone could buy this $40 mystery cable and test it out, I guess. It's just not gonna be me.

MHL VGA
ctomgee said:
Link? (I'm just curious)
My point above, is that the standard MHL adapter is only like $15. So it would be an additional cost to get ANOTHER adapter to plug that into a TV without an HDMI input. So $40 for that whole get-up would be more expensive. Less expensive than I thought it would be, but still more.
And based on what erzyk says in post 17, there is no guarantee this would work due to standard TVs not being HDCP compliant. But I'm just speculating.
Someone could buy this $40 mystery cable and test it out, I guess. It's just not gonna be me.
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I'm agree with you it's very expensive (and i'm not going to buy this thing for 48$)
Here the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...B-VGA-adapter-MHL-hdmi-HDMI-VGA-/320804899833
May be you can found it less expensive (i didn't search, i just saw a person that give the link with this expensive price).

Would this A/V cable work?

Yeo, I've been wondering for awhile if there were any decent composite video out options for smartphones these days, be it through the 3.5 mm jack or mhl.
And so I've found this, and am wondering if anyone has any idea if this would work with the HTC One?
Err, I can't post links yet, since I've been a lurker for years. Just go to eBay and search "290904213972" and it will show up.
I actually do have a 3.5 mm to composite cable, but no HTC One to test it with xD so any input on that would be appreciated too.
I do know that some phones did work with the 3.5 mm jack for video out in the past, but it was not an advertised feature.
Thanks guys :fingers-crossed:

that cable is for the HTC Touch Pro (per product description in ebay), that use a slightly modified version of MINI USB port, HTC ONE uses the MICRO USB port for data, charging and MHL (which is the common option to connect the one to a tv (captain ovious)), so...it not even could be plugged, so you can not use that cable with the ONE

Geez, I didn't even look at the cable. Auto-assumed it was micro. Oh well, anyone know of any alternatives?

The best you can do is grab a MHL adapter, hdmi to RCA/AV and a female to female HDMI splitter. Although, I think most HDMI to RCA/AV cables are to allow you to output to HDMI. I don't exactly know if it's two way or one way, so someone else can chime in on that. Although you can probably get all 3 for about $15.

I've always understood that when switching from analog (rca) to digit (hdmi) or the other way around, you need a processor to convert the signal - a dedicated box that requires power and is usually expensive.
I've worked in av for a few years and this was true working with dvi and a few other connections, but I hadn't worked with hdmi so I can't confirm this.
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gk1984 said:
I've always understood that when switching from analog (rca) to digit (hdmi) or the other way around, you need a processor to convert the signal - a dedicated box that requires power and is usually expensive.
I've worked in av for a few years and this was true working with dvi and a few other connections, but I hadn't worked with hdmi so I can't confirm this.
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Oh. Right. I totally forgot about that. Although I did see a converter box for about 30 on eBay yesterday.
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Yea, those cables that purportedly go from hdmi and branch off into RCA supposedly don't work. I was thinking of the converter box, just wondering if there were any cheaper, uglier solutions.
What about 3.5mm to RCA? Is that supported on the One?

I don't believe 3.5mm to rca is available on newer phones as we have MHL
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USB C to HDMI

Has anyone gotten one to work I bought 2 from Amazon and none seem to work. Maybe I thought wrong but thought HTC 10 has displayport output.
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I tried one at work last week, worked fine. Not sure what kind i got, but was not a problem.

OK thanks... I'll probably go to Best Buy and see if I can test one out there. Hope I don't have a bad port
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[Cruzer] said:
OK thanks... I'll probably go to Best Buy and see if I can test one out there. Hope I don't have a bad port
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I've tried 2. One worked, one didn't. Both were designed for macbooks, so ymmv.

I will try this out when I get the chance.

Tried one at the Computex last WE, for MacBook. Didn't work.
And after I tried the HTC10 and put it back to the MacBook it didn't work at all anymore.

Haldi4803 said:
Tried one at the Computex last WE, for MacBook. Didn't work.
And after I tried the HTC10 and put it back to the MacBook it didn't work at all anymore.
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damn thats not good news. still haven't had the time to head to local bestbuy. Hoping someone got one to work and point to an amazon link really miss having to show movies (for my kids) on the screen. Still have my MHL adpater for htc m9.

Adapter needs to use display port protocol, not mhl. Some adapters (USBC to HDMI) will use mhl internally and won't work (to my knowledge). See USB-C thread in 'Real Life'? section.
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lsblack said:
Adapter needs to use display port protocol, not mhl. Some adapters (USBC to HDMI) will use mhl internally and won't work (to my knowledge). See USB-C thread in 'Real Life'? section.
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Yes I know can't use MHL for HTC 10.. Just saying I miss that feature. And almost nagging at me still is the MHL cable. starring at me saying why did you get of the M9 [emoji14] you could be watching videos on the 70inch right now.
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Buy your nagging mhl cable a baby sister; a USB-C to HDMI port adapter / hub. It uses display port protocol and supports 4k. Adapter also includes USB 3.0 host port (so OTG) and 2nd USB-C port (for charger connection, I think optional, but I always use). Charge phone and watch at same time. See referenced thread for source. Win-win but approx $30. Need standard HDMI cable. Works well for me.
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I ran into the same problem the mac pro adapter, it would charge or display not both. I went this route Microsoft - Wireless Display Adapter V2 receiver - Dark-Titanium and use HTC connect. It works great.

lsblack said:
Buy your nagging mhl cable a baby sister; a USB-C to HDMI port adapter / hub. It uses display port protocol and supports 4k. Adapter also includes USB 3.0 host port (so OTG) and 2nd USB-C port (for charger connection, I think optional, but I always use). Charge phone and watch at same time. See referenced thread for source. Win-win but approx $30. Need standard HDMI cable. Works well for me.
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Just curious... you've had no problem charging this way? I wasn't sure if the 10 could take a regular USB-C charger or if it needed a QC compatible charger.

Partial answer. The HTC-10 does not need QC2 charger, just might charge slower or at various rates supplied by charger. I use several different chargers I had for my micro USB phones. Both using micro-USBC adapters, and USB-C cable direct. What I haven't tried (per your question), is fully charging via the mentioned display adapter. I doubt that the will recognize it as QC2. I will try this with the HTC supplied charger.
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Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
Hi
Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product. There is audio just does not work on my monitor via HDMI but works fine on TVs.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8

Thanks for this, will be ordering one myself now.
edit: no audio out on this device, well then that sucks. Not good for watching video, yah I know I probably can use headphone jack for that but should work that way in my opinion. guess I'll still be on the hunt for a simple HDMI and audio output like the good old MHL adapter.
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Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8
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[Cruzer] said:
Thanks for this, will be ordering one myself now.
edit: no audio out on this device, well then that sucks. Not good for watching video, yah I know I probably can use headphone jack for that but should work that way in my opinion. guess I'll still be on the hunt for a simple HDMI and audio output like the good old MHL adapter.
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I was wrong about audio, it works fine on a TVs but for some reason not on my monitor with HDMI?

1stGGMan said:
I was wrong about audio, it works fine on a TVs but for some reason not on my monitor with HDMI?
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ok thanks, i'll go ahead and get one and test myself.. thanks again for the info.

Pls ask me! For 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK support any cable HDMI?
Sorry my English

1stGGMan said:
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Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product. There is audio just does not work on my monitor via HDMI but works fine on TVs.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8
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Is this available anywhere else? I was hoping to find this or a similar device on Amazon or something but nothing else has been confirmed to be compatible. Is your experience with this device still a positive one??
Also, I am assuming that if you want to supply charging power to this device you need to use a non-QuickCharge charger as supplying greater than 5V to the electronics in this device would be bad...? What about still using legacy USB-A to USB-C cables (like the one that came with the HTC 10) with the 56K Ohm resister?

radensb said:
Is this available anywhere else? I was hoping to find this or a similar device on Amazon or something but nothing else has been confirmed to be compatible. Is your experience with this device still a positive one??
Also, I am assuming that if you want to supply charging power to this device you need to use a non-QuickCharge charger as supplying greater than 5V to the electronics in this device would be bad...? What about still using legacy USB-A to USB-C cables (like the one that came with the HTC 10) with the 56K Ohm resister?
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I use mine all the time at work for about 3-7 hours a night (5 nights a week) - have it plugged into spare monitor to watch youtube etc.
I using the default charger that came with the HTC 10 and only gets slightly warm (charger & adaptor) when I been playing games for a hour or two.
Been thinking about purchasing another one as a backup.