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im a sense lover but i been looking around and it seems like MIUI roms have more speed than sense roms.
also i was looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527 this rom in particular.
so my questions are...
1. is Miui roms faster than sense.
2. does this Miui rom have the weather animation like sense does when u turn your screen on.
3.is there a better Miui rom than this one. I've seen a few around but this one seems to have the most votes
4.what are the pros and cons between MIUI and Sense roms.
kyhassen said:
im a sense lover but i been looking around and it seems like MIUI roms have more speed than sense roms.
also i was looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527 this rom in particular.
so my questions are...
1. is Miui roms faster than sense.
2. does this Miui rom have the weather animation like sense does when u turn your screen on.
3.is there a better Miui rom than this one. I've seen a few around but this one seems to have the most votes
4.what are the pros and cons between MIUI and Sense roms.
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For the most part it is faster than most sense based ROMs out there.
There is no native weather animations, but you can accomplish this by purchasing Beautiful Widgets and selecting the option to have weather animation
There is only one version of MIUI ROM, and the link you posted is the 'official' EVO version
In my opinion there are a lot of Pros and only one Con - being there is no 4G for it....yet.
Here are my favorite things:
The lockscreen
the music app
the drop down notification - and the fact that it scrolls
the menu settings
the dialer
contacts mod
built in screen capture
file explore to connect to my CPU over WiFi
The folders
The way you can put widgets on the homescreens
etc, etc
Make a Nand of your current set up and give MIUI a whirl. After a few days if it isn't for you go back to what you had before - it's a win/win for you!
Let me know if you need any help!
JasonK75 said:
For the most part it is faster than most sense based ROMs out there.
There is no native weather animations, but you can accomplish this by purchasing Beautiful Widgets and selecting the option to have weather animation
There is only one version of MIUI ROM, and the link you posted is the 'official' EVO version
In my opinion there are a lot of Pros and only one Con - being there is no 4G for it....yet.
Here are my favorite things:
The lockscreen
the music app
the drop down notification - and the fact that it scrolls
the menu settings
the dialer
contacts mod
built in screen capture
file explore to connect to my CPU over WiFi
The folders
The way you can put widgets on the homescreens
etc, etc
Make a Nand of your current set up and give MIUI a whirl. After a few days if it isn't for you go back to what you had before - it's a win/win for you!
Let me know if you need any help!
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+ great battery life
- no hdmi yet
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Gandroid said:
+ great battery life
- no hdmi yet
Cant believe I forgot about the battery life!
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Swyped from my EVO (MIUI) using XDA App
kyhassen said:
im a sense lover but i been looking around and it seems like MIUI roms have more speed than sense roms.
also i was looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527 this rom in particular.
so my questions are...
1. is Miui roms faster than sense.
2. does this Miui rom have the weather animation like sense does when u turn your screen on.
3.is there a better Miui rom than this one. I've seen a few around but this one seems to have the most votes
4.what are the pros and cons between MIUI and Sense roms.
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I suggest just nand backup your current setup and flash it yourself. If you don't like it, just restore your previous setup.
Does anyone know how to keep the stock browser from going back to mobile web pages?
As for stock web staying off mobile. I have no clue. But I personally use skyfire 3.0 u can set it to 3 different sets. Desktop android and somethinf else I think. Found this program to be faster than anything else.
Also thank you for the tips. I will be sure to test it tonight. If I nand backup would it restore my apps and do I have to wipe before I do nand back up.
Is there certian kernal thats better for the miui or is the zen kernal that comes with it good?
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kyhassen said:
As for stock web staying off mobile. I have no clue. But I personally use skyfire 3.0 u can set it to 3 different sets. Desktop android and somethinf else I think. Found this program to be faster than anything else.
Also thank you for the tips. I will be sure to test it tonight. If I nand backup would it restore my apps and do I have to wipe before I do nand back up.
Is there certian kernal thats better for the miui or is the zen kernal that comes with it good?
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The Nand will make a back up of your apps, it I'd like a snap shot in time. After you do the backup then you would want to wipe everything.
As far as the kernel the stock one ids good, but feel free to try any other ASOP kernel. The thread for MIUI has a lot of good advice.
Swyped from my EVO (MIUI) using XDA App
ok cool, all sounds good and thank you. i will be testing is very shortly. just for some reason out of no where my download speed went down. i normally download anythign higher than 100mb in like 1-2mins. this is taking 30 mins.
Does anyone know if there is a new release for Miui that includes 4g now??
Please let me know.
Thanks
All you need to know. But I think the answer is no.
the answer is NO
adria25 said:
Does anyone know if there is a new release for Miui that includes 4g now??
Please let me know.
Thanks
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Not yet
So, you just rooted your super awesome Android phone, thanks to Rivera82falcon and his awesome guide? You saw my awesome guide for flashing ROMS, and wanted to try it, but didn't know where to begin? Well, you're in the right place.
Also, don't blame me if your phone explodes into a million pieces and one gets stuck in your eye. Nothing you do is my fault. Well, here we go.
STEP ONE: AOSP or Sense?
You probably know what Sense is, but you might not know what AOSP is. It stands for Android Open Source Project. Basically, you are getting a base of stock gingerbread. Now let's talk about the advantages and disadvantages.
AOSP is far faster than most Sense ROMs, and offers more customization as far as themes and kernels. Keep in mind, you can't just install AOSP and put the sense launcher on it. It won't work. With AOSP, you can get Gingerbread, Froyo, or even Ice Cream Sandwich looks for your phone.
Sense, on the other hand, is usually slower, and sometimes offers limited customization when compared to the Theme engines for AOSP. Sense can feel sluggish sometimes, but can be very fast if the ROM is well built. It is not as streamlined as AOSP. On the other hand, you get all the awesome sense apps, like weather, clock, and calendar.
Personally, I switch back and forth between Sense an AOSP. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
STEP TWO: How Much Is Working?
Many people see an awesome looking ROM and it says ALPHA or BETA, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything to people. They flash it and wonder why their radio doesn't work, or why WiFi won't connect. ALPHA ROMs are ROMs that are in the early testing phase and may have key functions broken or missing. Don't go on a vacation with an ALPHA ROM on your phone. Never flash one if you depend on your phone for your job. A BETA ROM is a ROM that is nearing the end of testing. It may still have broken features, but the core functions such as Radio, Data, WiFi, and SMS are often working. Don't flash this ROM if you are expecting a finished product, you will be disappointed. These ROMs are usually fairly slow as well. A vX.x.x ROM (ex: v1.0.1) is released to the public but probably still has some bugs like Bluetooth, MMS, or some other random issues. This ROM still might not be the fastest, but is still easily able to function. Anybody can flash these ROMs. RLSX (ex: RLS1) ROMs are released and are nearly finished. They may have some small bugs or not be fully optimized, but they are nearly perfect. Final ROMs are complete, and you can expect no further changes, usually.
STEP THREE: What Features/Look Does It Have?
Not all Sense and AOSP ROMs are created equal. Many look very different from each other and have very different features. For example, a Sense 2.1 and Sense 3.5 ROM are very different, and CM7 is very different from PoolParty. Read the entire OP and look at any screenshots provided. Make sure you like the look, so you don't waste time flashing it if you hate the look. That said, there is nothing wrong with flashing a ROM just to try it out.
STEP FOUR: Choosing Your Favorite (My Recommendations)
Sense
-Incredible 2 HD by newtoroot
*Great Battery Life
*Nearly Bugless
*Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.5
Download Link
-Skyraider Zeus
*Sense 2.1/3.0 Mix
*Very fast for a Sense ROM
*Great battery life
Download Link
AOSP
-CyanogenMod 7
*Lots of customization
*Very fast
*Updated very often
*Android 2.3.7
***IF YOU USE THE NIGHTLIES, THERE MAY BE BUGS***
Download Link
-TSM PoolParty
*Android 2.3.7
*Lots of theming
*Very fast
Download Link
SUGGESTIONS FROM OTHER USERS
-MIUI (knipp21)
*Fast AOSP ROM
*Lots of theme options
*Very customizable
*Looks good with GO Launcher and Launcher Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162835
-Liquid Smooth 3.x (i'manoob)
*Also very fast
*Lots of customization
http://liquidsmoothroms.com/
I hope that this was helpful to people. The next guide will be a noob dictionary.
Very nice writeup man. Kudos.
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I can vouch for Virtuous Roms. All their work is bug free and visually appealing and user friendly.
Nice write up AC.
collinjames said:
I can vouch for Virtuous Roms. All their work is bug free and visually appealing and user friendly.
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I agree Collinjames, the new Affinity ROM is very nice, battery life is insanely good, and it's nearly bug free. My softkeys stopped lighting up so I went back to 2HD RLS1.1
What about including custom kernals AOSP and Sense?
Skyraider Zeus rom is worthy of the incredible, Incredible 2. No bugs which is the most important thing, has never crashed ever on me, that is incredibly important. I don't ever actually use sense exept for the great camera, lockscreen, and weather. But this rom is a no brainer really.
It gives you every option you could think of and has no downside.
I wish this nice little article was up when I was wasting my time trying out buggy roms.
I just feel puzzle about which rom to choose at that moment, thanks a lot for your guide.
liquid 3.x is a good aosp rom as well
Thanks for the post, I like how you broke down the advantages of each.. this has proven to be very helpful.
While i agree with you aosp choices..i think everyone should at least try miui...most customizable rom I've ever used...and looks great with go launcher or launcher pro.
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I will add an "other people's recommendations section" soon. Just because I dont necessarily agree with all of these *cough*MIUI*cough*, but I want people to get all the input they can.
Thanks for posting this. As someone who is new to rooting phones this information is very useful.
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I will add an "other people's recommendations section" soon. Just because I dont necessarily agree with all of these *cough*MIUI*cough*, but I want people to get all the input they can.
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Yeah, I tried MIUI for a few days. Although I like how customizable it is with all the themes available I found it too buggy. I kept getting lockups and reboots. I hoped the 11.18 release would have helped but it actually made it worse. Also, the lack of an app drawer was very hard to get used to. I'm still not sure I like that concept. I guess it's too iPhone-ish for me.
valorian13 said:
Thanks for posting this. As someone who is new to rooting phones this information is very useful.
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Yeah, I tried MIUI for a few days. Although I like how customizable it is with all the themes available I found it too buggy. I kept getting lockups and reboots. I hoped the 11.18 release would have helped but it actually made it worse. Also, the lack of an app drawer was very hard to get used to. I'm still not sure I like that concept. I guess it's too iPhone-ish for me.
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Mine never locks up, what kernel? And use go launcher or launcher pro.
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knipp21 said:
Mine never locks up, what kernel?
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Sorry but I'm not sure. I would say what ever 11.18 has. I'm still learning all there is to know about rooting so I never paid attention to kernel versions.
valorian13 said:
Sorry but I'm not sure. I would say what ever 11.18 has. I'm still learning all there is to know about rooting so I never paid attention to kernel versions.
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I'm running MIUI 1.11.18 right now along with the aerovan .7 bfs kernel. I haven't had a single lockup. Running buttery smooth.
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I also run MIUI 1.11.18 an never had any problems I also use areoevan .07bsf kernel. This rom an skyraider are the two most stable roms I have run.
AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I will add an "other people's recommendations section" soon. Just because I dont necessarily agree with all of these *cough*MIUI*cough*, but I want people to get all the input they can.
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If you try it with a traditional launcher you will love it lol
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ok, so since I'm still learning here, when you flash a ROM does the kernel get changed too? Or is this something you have to flash in addition to the ROM?
yes it will change it to which ever kernel the rom
is supplied with. You can find the custom kernel you wish to use an then just flash it after the rom just make sure it's for aosp or sense which ever you choose to run.
RRF12 said:
yes it will change it to which ever kernel the rom
is supplied with. You can find the custom kernel you wish to use an then just flash it after the rom just make sure it's for aosp or sense which ever you choose to run.
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Thanks for the explanation. That helps.
Hey all. I have a ICS (4.04) Galaxy S 3 for ATT. Its been working for me great, but since i removed the bloatware like gallery and s-memo things like the copy/cut/paste and the little icon that takes to to your gallery in the camera app functions wont work.
What GSIII roms would you recommend? A couple things i would like is if the battery life is the same or better than stock roms and the home screens had a landscape mode as well as portrait. (And hopefully they work in nova launcher as well).
When i had my GS1 i used the AOKP rom and i loved that. It just didn't have the homescreen portrait/landscape thing. Thanks for your help!
Edit: Also, is ICS>JB or are there pros and cons on both sides?
Different people, different preferences.
therefore, look, read, and test them out yourself.
psm510 said:
Hey all. I have a ICS (4.04) Galaxy S 3 for ATT. Its been working for me great, but since i removed the bloatware like gallery and s-memo things like the copy/cut/paste and the little icon that takes to to your gallery in the camera app functions wont work.
What GSIII roms would you recommend? A couple things i would like is if the battery life is the same or better than stock roms and the home screens had a landscape mode as well as portrait. (And hopefully they work in nova launcher as well).
When i had my GS1 i used the AOKP rom and i loved that. It just didn't have the homescreen portrait/landscape thing. Thanks for your help!
Edit: Also, is ICS>JB or are there pros and cons on both sides?
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If you like aosp then flash task's 650 rom. Pacman and rootbox are pretty good too. I would update to stock jb before you do anything. You will find it much better than ics.
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I have to agree that JB is better than ICS just seems smoother and more polished to me. As far as the roms go i am useing the official CM 10.1 and love it. But you reall need to look and test a couple of the diffrent ones to find what suits you best.
These threads won't last long.
Recommended way:
1. Read OP for ROM features.
2. Check for ROM threads on top n see atleast a few latest pages for any issues or thanks. These are best indicators of how satisfied people are.
3. I'm on JB and this is quite stable. So I can say there are some very good JB ROMs out there.
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Thanks everybody. First im going to upgrade to Stock 4.2. After a bit of that ill go to AOKP Then branch out from there.
Im only partially familiar with roms and flashing(used to flash optimus V until I upgraded to a phone with no devs working on it XD ), I was fairly familiar with a cyanogenmod port for my op-V and liked that.
Anyways more specifically im not familiar with any of the devs or their products and was wondering which rom will give me the most preformace and lowest battery drain?
or is it too soon in the nexus 7's life to determine this kinda thing?
should I just stick with stock for now?
also if you have any words of advice or such so a new nexus 7, I'd love to here em.
just flash every rom out there and decide which ever is the "best" for you then stay with it .
What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
dkb218 said:
What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Options and features.... for example Cyanogenmod has a ton of features that the original ROM doesn't have. Also speed sometimes dictates switching roms. Alot of custom roms are striped down and are faster also.
dkb218 said:
What exactly do you find wrong with the stock rom? My thoughts on custom roms have always been if it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Not about fixing, but improving
Paranoid Android is fast becoming a personal favorite. Tablet UI is how things ought to be. It's very easy to make a backup image, backup apps, and just start flashing. Now's a good time to start, too, as it's early and the selection is fairly limited. It will only grow from here..
mmegalodon said:
Not about fixing, but improving
Paranoid Android is fast becoming a personal favorite. Tablet UI is how things ought to be. It's very easy to make a backup image, backup apps, and just start flashing. Now's a good time to start, too, as it's early and the selection is fairly limited. It will only grow from here..
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I agree with this its what I'm using too. I love tablet UI.
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if you like stock and want the ability to choose what you want, cleanrom is great
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Very true what you guys say, stock ROM is great and all but I love to see all the cool features people put out in their custom Roms.
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I flashed every ROM that was available, that after I backed-up my original stock ROM. It's the only way you'll find which one you like the most. My 2 best options are ParanoidAndroid 3 and CyanogenMod Kangs, but I love the stability and speed of latter. It's all about preferences, just read a lot of comments of what users say and that also can help you.
Update: I love too much the custom ROMS, the customizing and the utilities they add are just fantastic. That's why I never stay with a stock ROM.
CleanROM if you just want a basic ROM like stock without all the bloatware.
ParanoidAndroid if you want a ton of features to play around with. Some are buggy at the moment and performance won't be as good as it would be with CleanROM but I think it's worth it for the features.
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
dva010 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
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They're both pretty similar in my opinion at the current time but I think Eclipse might be getting more customization soon, the NOS version hasn't been updated for a while and I think I saw he might be waiting till it can be updated to 4.3 so depends on how much customization you want I suppose.
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They're both pretty similar in my opinion at the current time but I think Eclipse might be getting more customization soon, the NOS version hasn't been updated for a while and I think I saw he might be waiting till it can be updated to 4.3 so depends on how much customization you want I suppose.
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Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
dva010 said:
Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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I'm pretty sure that the TV app is included in the rom but I'm not positive.
fatmando2 said:
I'm pretty sure that the TV app is included in the rom but I'm not positive.
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No big deal. I'll give it a look and maybe test it out myself if it's not included. Thanks
dva010 said:
Any idea on if the HTC TV app can be installed onto Eclipse's GPE rom? I had seen that NOS made the HTC TV available. Since they're basically the same, I figured it could be possible. Didn't know if anyone else had tried it yet?
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I don't touch AOSP ROMs, just never liked them on a phone with such great software, Sense 5 is really nice upgrade from 4.1+ which I wasn't a huge fan of many things.
Reading the OP of a ROM though does wonders...
"All of my source for modded apps can be found at http://github.com/nitroglycerine33
Overview
Jellybean 4.2.2 Google Play Edition based
Deodexed, zipaligned, rooted.. etc..
Removed non-essential Google Apps and languages
Extended power menu
T9 inverted Dialer from Eclipse AOSP source
Quick-reply inverted Mms from Eclipse AOSP source
Added HTC IR blaster control
Sense Calendar
Sense Browser
Inverted Eclipse AOSP Email
CM File Manager
Lock Clock widgets
4.3 Photosphere camera
init.d support
More to come!! "
I have tried both, but Eclipse had several issues on my phone. I don't really like the inverted apps, but I didn't mind. The straw that broke the camel's back was when my messaging app just disappeared after a random reboot. I'm on NOS now, with no problems.
I've been using eclipse with xposed and gravity box. I've had no issues and really like it.
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I noticed lag when I tried Eclipse GPE. I have a TW based Eclipse on my S4, which is awesome. Hopefully the developer does a Sense-based Eclipse.
mtva24 said:
I noticed lag when I tried Eclipse GPE. I have a TW based Eclipse on my S4, which is awesome. Hopefully the developer does a Sense-based Eclipse.
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Check his site
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I tried both of them yesterday. With Eclipse and NOS I was getting horrible data connection which seems to be the norm with alot of the Roms so far since it's still fairly early with development for the VZW One. Eclipse had more problems than NOS. It was constantly switching me to WCDMA and even using the LTE Toggle app wasn't correcting the issue. This got annoying quick. Every Rom I've tried so far has been pretty bad with data, except for Andy's BoneStock Rom.
Just gotta be patient though, soon there will be stable versions popping up everywhere.
Gonna stick with Bonestock for now
andybones said:
I don't touch AOSP ROMs, just never liked them on a phone with such great software, Sense 5 is really nice upgrade from 4.1+ which I wasn't a huge fan of many things.
Reading the OP of a ROM though does wonders...
"All of my source for modded apps can be found at http://github.com/nitroglycerine33
Overview
Jellybean 4.2.2 Google Play Edition based
Deodexed, zipaligned, rooted.. etc..
Removed non-essential Google Apps and languages
Extended power menu
T9 inverted Dialer from Eclipse AOSP source
Quick-reply inverted Mms from Eclipse AOSP source
Added HTC IR blaster control
Sense Calendar
Sense Browser
Inverted Eclipse AOSP Email
CM File Manager
Lock Clock widgets
4.3 Photosphere camera
init.d support
More to come!! "
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My bad Andy. Just must have overlooked it.
BTW keep up the good work with Bonestock. You're the reason I'm done with AOSP on this phone.
dva010 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on which one I should try?
I've read through the forums for both of them. Just trying to get a feel for what everyone else thinks about them
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Trying them both is the only way you're going to find out. Everyone has a different viewpoint.
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Personally I'm loving eclipse. I have had one data issue that just randomly appeared and kept me stuck in roaming, I just re flashed and all has been well since. I flashed a few before I fell in love with eclipse, just my 2 cents.
Both ROMS are pretty good imo. Only problems are data and battery life.
Sonic2756 said:
Both ROMS are pretty good imo. Only problems are data and battery life.
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"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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If that ROM didn't have a blue theme I would be using it. Currently on NOS.
Running Santod 4.3 and battery life is ok but I know santod will continue to work on that. After all he took the leaked ics for the bolt and made the battery life a hundred times better.
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mrjinglesusa said:
"Only" problems? Those seem like pretty big problems to me.
To answer the OP - neither. NuSenseONE for the win (Android 4.3, Sense 5.5). Everything works, great battery life, updated frequently, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505541
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Probably should have been a bit more descriptive.
Battery isn't horrible. It's just a bit worse than that of a sense rom. Same with data. Isn't horrible, just isn't as good as sense.
Sonic2756 said:
Probably should have been a bit more descriptive.
Battery isn't horrible. It's just a bit worse than that of a sense rom. Same with data. Isn't horrible, just isn't as good as sense.
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I'll second that. Battery life is not bad at all. But battery life on sense seems to be better. I haven't had any problems with data whatsoever.