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Cwm and not rooting question

so im not really from around these parts but my girlfriend has this phone, and doesn't want root but would like to have a nandroid backup, is there any problems with odin'ing cwm and not flashing su, and just leaving the phone unrooted? or is that a horrible idea?
the phone is tmobile stock w/ the most recent ics update btw
also, sorry if this has been asked, i'm sorry.. but I looked around and didn't see this question posted anywhere, but
thanks for any advice anyone can offer.
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My only question would be...why bother?
Edit: if it's for back up reasons, just backup to Google and she's all good.
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blackangst said:
My only question would be...why bother?
Edit: if it's for back up reasons, just backup to Google and she's all good.
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Mostly for experimental purposes.. I've never had a phone that is so easy to flash a custom recovery without rooting.. but also because we want to backup more than just contacts and calendars..
I was just wondering if it's a bad idea to flash the recovery and not root the device
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Deodex

Is there a way I can deodex the current rooted stock ROM I'm on doin Dont lose any data or have to start from scratch but still be able to use mods?
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nique0201 said:
Is there a way I can deodex the current rooted stock ROM I'm on doin Dont lose any data or have to start from scratch but still be able to use mods?
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I have been reading up on this myself.
Check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981668

I flashed it without wiping data with no problems. just do it, it works
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Yup I recently realized I could do that smh... previously on other phones it always forced a wipe if I recall when you first did a new rom
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Huge thanks

Almost added another brick to the wall. Thanks to wish and truth, I'm alive again. :thumbup:
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We need more details so others don't almost brick their phones.
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kkl0wn said:
We need more details so others don't almost brick their phones.
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He helped truth77 with the framwork-res while developing his ROM. Just passed his thread a moment ago and read it.
Thanks Dafoxs!

kkl0wn said:
We need more details so others don't almost brick their phones.
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Basically was doing a restore after a full wipe. I noticed the restore went allot faster then normal. I figured it was because the new twrp update speeded it up some how. I didn't get a failed message. Umm, no. It was a bad backup. I went to hit restore again and instead did a reboot. The phone was stuck on the Samsung white screen. With wish and truth helping, we got the phone into download mode and using Odin flashed the cwm recovery tar file. Then got the the phone into recovery and flashed a ROM I had on my card.
Moral of the story. If it doesn't seem right dont follow through with it and always keep a working ROM zip on your card. It was totally my fault.
Just noticed, that restore was only 506mb. I ran out of space.
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dayloooo said:
He helped truth77 with the framwork-res while developing his ROM. Just passed his thread a moment ago and read it.
Thanks Dafoxs!
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Had nothing to do with the port.
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Let me start be saying be very carefully using the new twrp. I have tons of space now. Just tried to do a backup. It finished in 0 seconds, no fail message. I think I know what I'm doing and that is broke.
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Wahooo..lol :sly:

I've had no problem with backups on mine. Matter of fact I've restored it once and it worked perfect.
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i have restored backups back to back to back using twrp and have had no issues, even just restoring data it works fine.
glad you got it back up and running though.

the2rrell said:
i have restored backups back to back to back using twrp and have had no issues, even just restoring data it works fine.
glad you got it back up and running though.
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With the new version, just came out?
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Just so you all know. The latest TWRP is broke.
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What's the version number?
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slaydog said:
What's the version number?
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Its been fixed, no worries.
FYI. In the new version you have to choose what you want backed up. Make real sure you check the boxes in the name screen.
Full wipe + no check marks = a real bad day
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Titanium backup noob question

It asked if I wanted to keep my new Android ID or restore the old one, not sure what to choose, so I went with ask me later.
I have rooted and have Jedi rom running on the device.
Thanks
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Astom22 said:
It asked if I wanted to keep my new Android ID or restore the old one, not sure what to choose, so I went with ask me later.
I have rooted and have Jedi rom running on the device.
Thanks
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I've seen it plenty of times, always chose to keep the new ID. Never caused me a problem.

jmacdonald19 said:
I've seen it plenty of times, always chose to keep the new ID. Never caused me a problem.
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I suspect keeping your old ID might help you with some services, like Amazon Kindle, so I always switch back to the original. No problems either way.

Appreciated guys, looks like I can't go wrong either way.
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Clockwork vs twrp

Hey so tell us what recovery you like and don't like and why?
I was using twrp but stopped because it screwed up my phone and was having problems flashing some Roms. I just don't think it does a clean wipe just works to fast..... So far clockwork cleans ,wipes more securely and have no problems flashing Roms...
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I see this thread getting out of hand and going south quickly. I'm gonna request a mod step in and make a bold suggestion to people on how to keep it clean and not go south. Also make a poll for the thread, makes it look better and more official..
I prefer TWRP, I've been on it since I got the S III (May of '12). I test roms for 3 devs on this phone, and never had an issue. I used to use CWM on previous phones and never had issues there either. I just prefer TWRPs UI.

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I should of posted this with the post I started...
The Rom that gave me problems with twrp was darthstalker but was able to flash with clockwork... Maybe it was something I did wrong.... Don't know.
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Both are great choice is yours.
As said all phone are not same so sometimes depends on your devices.
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My Galaxy S3 is the only phone I've ever rooted and CWM has never failed me. Never used TWRP but I'm happy with CWM.
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IXChicharitoXI said:
My Galaxy S3 is the only phone I've ever rooted and CWM has never failed me. Never used TWRP but I'm happy with CWM.
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I've used both and like both, settled on twrp mainly because I find it a little easier to use. CWM looks nicer IMO. I dont' think you can go wrong with either.

I prefer TWRP but with the 4.2+ ROMs I flashed that have the 0 file I have to use CWM.
I'm sure there's something I can do to fix this but I've tried via Google search and have only has luck with CWM. So here I am.
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Steve5400 said:
I prefer TWRP but with the 4.2+ ROMs I flashed that have the 0 file I have to use CWM.
I'm sure there's something I can do to fix this but I've tried via Google search and have only has luck with CWM. So here I am.
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I'm confused. Does cwm not give you the emulated /0 file structure?
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Cwm now has a new touch screen have you tried it yet?
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Yes. No clue what he's talking about.

I've not been able to find my recoveries in twrp whenever I flash an aosp ROM .
so I have to use cwm.
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I have used both, they both seem to work perfectly. I just prefer cwm
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I use twrp because you can name your back up files. That's probably the only reason I use it. It's UI is more friendly because of the buttons and I'm pretty sure you can theme it now, but I haven't tried that feature yet
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Steve5400 said:
I've not been able to find my recoveries in twrp whenever I flash an aosp ROM .
so I have to use cwm.
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You're making no sense what so ever.
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I'm using TWRP, I get several times fail when restore backup.
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miwanr said:
I'm using TWRP, I get several times fail when restore backup.
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Yes, that had happened to me multiple times as well, restoring of backups failing. For that reason I stick to CWM for now. Otherwise IMO TWRP is superior.
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Did you update twrp yo 2.5
? Maybe that will help you out
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Ive never had a backup fail on TWRP that's bad though considering it was backup. Did it work eventually?
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rsilv377 said:
Did you update twrp yo 2.5
? Maybe that will help you out
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Yes, I have always been on the latest version.
mt3g said:
Ive never had a backup fail on TWRP that's bad though considering it was backup. Did it work eventually?
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I do not backup and restore very often, but twice I have made a backup and restored because I was testing a ROM...but both backups failed and left me to clean flash my ROM again.
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