Cwm and not rooting question - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

so im not really from around these parts but my girlfriend has this phone, and doesn't want root but would like to have a nandroid backup, is there any problems with odin'ing cwm and not flashing su, and just leaving the phone unrooted? or is that a horrible idea?
the phone is tmobile stock w/ the most recent ics update btw
also, sorry if this has been asked, i'm sorry.. but I looked around and didn't see this question posted anywhere, but
thanks for any advice anyone can offer.
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My only question would be...why bother?
Edit: if it's for back up reasons, just backup to Google and she's all good.
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blackangst said:
My only question would be...why bother?
Edit: if it's for back up reasons, just backup to Google and she's all good.
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Mostly for experimental purposes.. I've never had a phone that is so easy to flash a custom recovery without rooting.. but also because we want to backup more than just contacts and calendars..
I was just wondering if it's a bad idea to flash the recovery and not root the device
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Full factory restore for emergencies?

When I had my S3, this was something super convenient to have in case you have an issue and have to take your phone into Sprint for service. Basically posting this to see if any devs would be interested in setting something like this up.
Link to original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31981341
[ROM/RESTORE][!JB-OTA!]Quick Return to UNROOTED STOCK(NOW WITH FLASH COUNT RESET)
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Yes, I agree we need this for our Note-2.
You should ask mrRobinson about this. Would be easy for him, it's basically the same as his stock rooted tools. (i think my sig links to it...)
And I agree, this would be an invaluable thread to be able to point people to.
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Odin mobile from chainfire does just this. I posted about in the apps and scene section it is 1 or more pages back. Alternatively you can just do a search for it.
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irule9000 said:
Odin mobile from chainfire does just this. I posted about in the apps and scene section it is 1 or more pages back. Alternatively you can just do a search for it.
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Good option as well, but you have to buy an app to do this. This is just a quick rom flash.
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BDR456 said:
Good option as well, but you have to buy an app to do this. This is just a quick rom flash.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
I linked you to Chainfire's thread with a Lite version available but wouldn't you still be rooted hence may still run the risk of Sprint's rooted wrath if you brought your phone in?
I'm sure there plenty of ways to go about it fellas. I'd just like it to be as simple as possible. Boot into recovery, flash zip and done without a trace.
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Yep, I'll be checking this thread to see if something comes up too.
Get a kernel base twrp and tar, flash non rooted tar with mobile odin lite, than flash non rooted kernel
I just did this last weekend because I had to return mine to sprint due to a random rebooting problem. Here were the steps I took:
1. Made a Nandroid backup
2. Went back to stock LJC rom using odin
3. Flashed the CF's auto-root file using odin
4. Booted phone and installed triangle away
5. Ran TA and reset the counter
6. Opened Supersu to unroot
7. Then take back to sprint
I also made a backup of all the logs (call logs, sms, and mms) and my home screen settings (wallpaper, etc) and restored them to make it look more legit. Sprint didn't really mind but I'm paranoid that way. Sorry I couldn't post links as I am doing all this from work.
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I'm sure there plenty of ways to go about it fellas. I'd just like it to be as simple as possible. Boot into recovery, flash zip and done without a trace.
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I have brought it up a few times but no one seemed interested.
it can't be that hard to do. I need my computer though
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Here - courtesy of Team Sextape:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032924
Stock restore is a full factory restore. Only thing it doesn't do is wipe your external SD card.
garwynn said:
Here - courtesy of Team Sextape:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032924
Stock restore is a full factory restore. Only thing it doesn't do is wipe your external SD card.
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Close, but still not it. I'm talking ALL IN ONE flash. Rom(unrooted), recovery, flash count and done. Like I said before I'm know there are multiple ways to do it, but not as easy as what I'm suggesting.
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Guess there isn't as much interest in this as I thought there'd be. :thumbdown:
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BDR456 said:
Guess there isn't as much interest in this as I thought there'd be. :thumbdown:
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I'm interested but not that knowledgeable in developing these things.... Slow learner I guess
Great idea but idk how feasible it is to create a single zip that can do all those things in one flash
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Great idea but idk how feasible it is to create a single zip that can do all those things in one flash
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It was done on the S3, why not the GN-2.
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Guess there isn't as much interest in this as I thought there'd be. :thumbdown:
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there is. got a new laptop this week...now all I need is a bit of free time to play
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Still very interested in seeing this happen. :banghead:
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This looks like the answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086769

Titanium backup noob question

It asked if I wanted to keep my new Android ID or restore the old one, not sure what to choose, so I went with ask me later.
I have rooted and have Jedi rom running on the device.
Thanks
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Astom22 said:
It asked if I wanted to keep my new Android ID or restore the old one, not sure what to choose, so I went with ask me later.
I have rooted and have Jedi rom running on the device.
Thanks
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I've seen it plenty of times, always chose to keep the new ID. Never caused me a problem.
jmacdonald19 said:
I've seen it plenty of times, always chose to keep the new ID. Never caused me a problem.
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I suspect keeping your old ID might help you with some services, like Amazon Kindle, so I always switch back to the original. No problems either way.
Appreciated guys, looks like I can't go wrong either way.
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App backup

I used to use titanium backup^
But haven't recently. ... Is there one thats compatible-or one that works well...
Ive seen a couple different apps...
But need a little help on this one. THNX
*Twrp
*Wicked 9.1
*Stock kernel
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Whats wrong with titanium if not mind me asking
Nothing at all..I own it...was just trying to get advice if theres something better on the market...thats all...been awhile for me and I know $h¡t changes...
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I still use TitaniumBackup when I need backups. Although in theory I don't need it with ROM Toolbox.
There is Carbon Backup but the main difference with that one is that you need to have your apps already installed from the Play Store in order to restore your data backups
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spodie said:
Nothing at all..I own it...was just trying to get advice if theres something better on the market...thats all...been awhile for me and I know $h¡t changes...
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In that case nothing changed its still the best out there,.. It has improved greatly as well
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A few (possibly dumb) questions.

I'm new to installing roms on the s3. I've had many different roms on my old Desire so I'm not entirely new to this, just had a few questions.
How easy is it to lose your imei number when flashing a new rom?
Is it dependent on anything specific?
Easy to fix if it does happen?
Anything else I should be worried about before flashing?
I'm looking at testing out cm10.1 and Task's rom as well as a few kernels.
Thanks.
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jordan.harris01 said:
I'm new to installing roms on the s3. I've had many different roms on my old Desire so I'm not entirely new to this, just had a few questions.
How easy is it to lose your imei number when flashing a new rom?
Is it dependent on anything specific?
Easy to fix if it does happen?
Anything else I should be worried about before flashing?
I'm looking at testing out cm10.1 and Task's rom as well as a few kernels.
Thanks.
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Imei loss is random.
Best thing to do is to back it up. Easier to back up than to inject it back in manually. (Still not overly difficult but always have a backup)
Nothing to really worry about. Just don't flash a ROM not intended for your phone.
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What's the best way to back it up? Galaxy toolbox?
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jordan.harris01 said:
What's the best way to back it up? Galaxy toolbox?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29461812
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Thanks, I'll check that out.
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I would say to just make sure you hava a sure way to get back to stock in case you soft brick your phone. I.e the stock tar
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Thanks, I'll check that out.
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Actually most people loose IMEI going from a custom ROM to a stock based ROM.
hednik said:
Actually most people loose IMEI going from a custom ROM to a stock based ROM.
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So say im just stock att and rooted, and wanted to flash say csrom. do u think i would lose my imei? I had a gs3 last year. I flashed cm10 from the stock rom, then two days later flashed another rom cant rem which one. thats when i lost my Imei. fixed it. then just used my one x. til last week when i got another gs3.. its rooted and and stock right now. guess i just need to back up etc. before flashing just to be sure. etc..
So I guess this is just a problem we sometimes need to live with? Just back it up and restore as needed.
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Oh, one more question. I'm on telus so the 747m. Can I flash d2att roms or do I need to use d2can?
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jordan.harris01 said:
So I guess this is just a problem we sometimes need to live with? Just back it up and restore as needed.
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Sounds like it. I have been flashing roms and since my first android, htc hero.. never had a bricked phone or anything etc.. before that win mobile, again never had any issues. as long as you read and pay attention all will be good. I want to flash a rom on this s3 but gotta find the time to back up and such. kinda hard with a wife that's a RN working 12 hour shifts and 3 kids lol..
Yea, same here. I've flashed so many roms and kernels on my old s3. Had no worries ever about changing the partition table sizes and am familiar with adb just haven't found the time to look into all of the s3 stuff yet. I've had the phone since launch but just rooted it for the first time a few days ago.
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spiritcrusher33 said:
So say im just stock att and rooted, and wanted to flash say csrom. do u think i would lose my imei? I had a gs3 last year. I flashed cm10 from the stock rom, then two days later flashed another rom cant rem which one. thats when i lost my Imei. fixed it. then just used my one x. til last week when i got another gs3.. its rooted and and stock right now. guess i just need to back up etc. before flashing just to be sure. etc..
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custom i.e not based on a samsung ROM. It's not common but more common going from custom (aosp, aokp,CM) to any TW type ROM. Just back it up anyway, even though you more than likely will never have to worry about loosing it.
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custom i.e not based on a samsung ROM. It's not common but more common going from custom (aosp, aokp,CM) to any TW type ROM. Just back it up anyway, even though you more than likely will never have to worry about loosing it.
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Thats the plan just gonna back it up. but just gonna stick with TW based roms. I have my other phones and tabs to mess with if i wanna flash something else lol. problem is I get bored to easy and am always changing things..
Can I flash d2att roms on my telus phone or do I need d2can?
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jordan.harris01 said:
Can I flash d2att roms on my telus phone or do I need d2can?
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Yes. You might need to flash a d2att recovery to avoid getting a status 7 error
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KorGuy123 said:
Yes. You might need to flash a d2att recovery to avoid getting a status 7 error
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How do I go about doing that? I've flashed twrp from goo manager. Will that be alright?
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jordan.harris01 said:
How do I go about doing that? I've flashed twrp from goo manager. Will that be alright?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1879305&d=1365812877
This is a recovery you can flash. This will flash over your d2can with d2att.
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KorGuy123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1879305&d=1365812877
This is a recovery you can flash. This will flash over your d2can with d2att.
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That should be the one I have installed. Is there somewhere I can see if I'm d2att? to verify?
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jordan.harris01 said:
That should be the one I have installed. Is there somewhere I can see if I'm d2att? to verify?
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You can check your build prop or just flash a ROM. It should work. Or flash that file anyway.
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Clockwork vs twrp

Hey so tell us what recovery you like and don't like and why?
I was using twrp but stopped because it screwed up my phone and was having problems flashing some Roms. I just don't think it does a clean wipe just works to fast..... So far clockwork cleans ,wipes more securely and have no problems flashing Roms...
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I see this thread getting out of hand and going south quickly. I'm gonna request a mod step in and make a bold suggestion to people on how to keep it clean and not go south. Also make a poll for the thread, makes it look better and more official..
I prefer TWRP, I've been on it since I got the S III (May of '12). I test roms for 3 devs on this phone, and never had an issue. I used to use CWM on previous phones and never had issues there either. I just prefer TWRPs UI.
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I should of posted this with the post I started...
The Rom that gave me problems with twrp was darthstalker but was able to flash with clockwork... Maybe it was something I did wrong.... Don't know.
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Both are great choice is yours.
As said all phone are not same so sometimes depends on your devices.
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My Galaxy S3 is the only phone I've ever rooted and CWM has never failed me. Never used TWRP but I'm happy with CWM.
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My Galaxy S3 is the only phone I've ever rooted and CWM has never failed me. Never used TWRP but I'm happy with CWM.
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I've used both and like both, settled on twrp mainly because I find it a little easier to use. CWM looks nicer IMO. I dont' think you can go wrong with either.
I prefer TWRP but with the 4.2+ ROMs I flashed that have the 0 file I have to use CWM.
I'm sure there's something I can do to fix this but I've tried via Google search and have only has luck with CWM. So here I am.
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Steve5400 said:
I prefer TWRP but with the 4.2+ ROMs I flashed that have the 0 file I have to use CWM.
I'm sure there's something I can do to fix this but I've tried via Google search and have only has luck with CWM. So here I am.
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I'm confused. Does cwm not give you the emulated /0 file structure?
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Cwm now has a new touch screen have you tried it yet?
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Yes. No clue what he's talking about.
I've not been able to find my recoveries in twrp whenever I flash an aosp ROM .
so I have to use cwm.
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I have used both, they both seem to work perfectly. I just prefer cwm
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I use twrp because you can name your back up files. That's probably the only reason I use it. It's UI is more friendly because of the buttons and I'm pretty sure you can theme it now, but I haven't tried that feature yet
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Steve5400 said:
I've not been able to find my recoveries in twrp whenever I flash an aosp ROM .
so I have to use cwm.
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You're making no sense what so ever.
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I'm using TWRP, I get several times fail when restore backup.
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I'm using TWRP, I get several times fail when restore backup.
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Yes, that had happened to me multiple times as well, restoring of backups failing. For that reason I stick to CWM for now. Otherwise IMO TWRP is superior.
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Did you update twrp yo 2.5
? Maybe that will help you out
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Ive never had a backup fail on TWRP that's bad though considering it was backup. Did it work eventually?
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Did you update twrp yo 2.5
? Maybe that will help you out
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Yes, I have always been on the latest version.
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Ive never had a backup fail on TWRP that's bad though considering it was backup. Did it work eventually?
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I do not backup and restore very often, but twice I have made a backup and restored because I was testing a ROM...but both backups failed and left me to clean flash my ROM again.
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