XDA People,
(Sorry for my bad English). I am in the way to change the ROM in my TMO Galaxy SIII device. I don't live in the States, and a friend sent to me this phone. But, I feel this device has a few things I don't like (missing fm tuner, impossibility use of Samsung Dive, and others). I came from a Galaxy SII international, which had this tools, and Tmobile, for whatever reason, drop off many features.
The question is: Can I use a ROM who give back this capabilities of other Galaxy SIII models? I understand that if I use, for example, Cyanogen for TMO, I will be in the same route again... without the mentioned features.
If I can choose, I pick the international version of Galaxy SIII, but putting a ROM for the int'l device... will broke mine?
Thank you in advance.
Tito
tito_xda said:
XDA People,
(Sorry for my bad English). I am in the way to change the ROM in my TMO Galaxy SIII device. I don't live in the States, and a friend sent to me this phone. But, I feel this device has a few things I don't like (missing fm tuner, impossibility use of Samsung Dive, and others). I came from a Galaxy SII international, which had this tools, and Tmobile, for whatever reason, drop off many features.
The question is: Can I use a ROM who give back this capabilities of other Galaxy SIII models? I understand that if I use, for example, Cyanogen for TMO, I will be in the same route again... without the mentioned features.
If I can choose, I pick the international version of Galaxy SIII, but putting a ROM for the int'l device... will broke mine?
Thank you in advance.
Tito
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Not sure about the other questions, but do not install any international rom on your phone.
tito_xda said:
XDA People,
(Sorry for my bad English). I am in the way to change the ROM in my TMO Galaxy SIII device. I don't live in the States, and a friend sent to me this phone. But, I feel this device has a few things I don't like (missing fm tuner, impossibility use of Samsung Dive, and others). I came from a Galaxy SII international, which had this tools, and Tmobile, for whatever reason, drop off many features.
The question is: Can I use a ROM who give back this capabilities of other Galaxy SIII models? I understand that if I use, for example, Cyanogen for TMO, I will be in the same route again... without the mentioned features.
If I can choose, I pick the international version of Galaxy SIII, but putting a ROM for the int'l device... will broke mine?
Thank you in advance.
Tito
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The FM tuner, Samsung (not T-Mobile) didn't include in (at least the US variants) the phones. No clue what Samsung Drive is, but installing a variation of AOSP will get you less (if hardly any) Samsung features - again, this is nothing to do with T-Mobile.
MT3G is correct, install ROMs specifically made for the specific phone. T-Mobile USA phones should only install ROMs for T-Mobile USA phone. If you were to get an international SIII, then install the ROMs for the international SIII.
I hope I answered your questions. I tried to answer them how I understood the question.
i dont see why we cant pull the applications from the internation version and use them here... lol
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The FM tuner, Samsung (not T-Mobile) didn't include in (at least the US variants) the phones. No clue what Samsung Drive is, but installing a variation of AOSP will get you less (if hardly any) Samsung features - again, this is nothing to do with T-Mobile.
MT3G is correct, install ROMs specifically made for the specific phone. T-Mobile USA phones should only install ROMs for T-Mobile USA phone. If you were to get an international SIII, then install the ROMs for the international SIII.
I hope I answered your questions. I tried to answer them how I understood the question.
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Thank you for the answers. Samsung Dive (not "Drive") in an awsome feature that let the user a complete remote operation of his Samsung Galaxy. Very useful if your phone was stolen or missing. Location of the device at google maps, complete lock of the phone from distance, and, many, many, many others (you can check SansungDive home page), and is completely free!
Unfortunately, TMO remove this beautiful chance from the original international model of the same phone. Also the TMO dialer is not good (missing videocall button) and other stuff removed (why less funcionality?).
Again, thank you all.
Tito
tito_xda said:
Thank you for the answers. Samsung Dive (not "Drive") in an awsome feature that let the user a complete remote operation of his Samsung Galaxy. Very useful if your phone was stolen or missing. Location of the device at google maps, complete lock of the phone from distance, and, many, many, many others (you can check SansungDive home page), and is completely free!
Unfortunately, TMO remove this beautiful chance from the original international model of the same phone. Also the TMO dialer is not good (missing videocall button) and other stuff removed (why less funcionality?).
Again, thank you all.
Tito
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Ok, I see.
Why less? Why is the US always different when the large majority of the world are more unified?
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https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket.
If you're not using the GSM version on AT&T there's probably no reason for you to be a troll.
Have you seriously not read a thread or news article in the last 24 hours?
That's not an AT&T Galaxy Nexus. Its an unlocked i9250 GSM model. Works on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any GSM carrier in the US/World. Its the same (save for pre-installed Google Wallet) as the European model that's been sold for the last 5+ months.
Seriously?
Google Officially Selling Galaxy Nexus GSM in USA via Play Store ($399)
On the first page of this forum.
I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.
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I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.
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worth it? yes.
development?
is this not the GSM Nexus dev page..????????????????????????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1339
X10D3 said:
I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.
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Please just leave this thread and go join the other ones. You clearly have not read about the device, because it is the EXACT SAME as the other ones. It won't be a special phone that requires different ROMs or development. The phone has been on sale for over 5 months.
X10D3 said:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
Is it worth it? Think any developers will support it? Currently have a SkyRocket.
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Lol lames
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I updated my question to be a bit more clear.
"I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket."
The damn trolls are deep in this forum.
X10D3 said:
I updated my question to be a bit more clear.
"I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket."
The damn trolls are deep in this forum.
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No, we're not trolls, we're just tired of people that are uninformed creating irrelevant, duplicate threads before searching or even reading the titles of the threads on the first page of the forum.
Obviously this phone has developer support, it's a Nexus. It doesn't matter what freaking SIM card you put in the back of it, its still the same device. GSM device support is GSM device support. Read. Please!
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The damn trolls are deep in this forum.
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So are pointless, redundant threads apparently.
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FFS ppl the OP was just asking a question. Yes the GN sold by Google is supported by AOSP and will have [email protected]!# ton of ROM and development going for a long time
Per your suggestion I've looked through the last 5 pages and there's a couple that's semi similar to mine. The official announcement: which I could try to start a conversation there and it get lost in the general chatter about it, and another question like mine but about the battery. I could hijack his thread. That would be cool? Instead of trolling, which most of the replies have been, you could have said something like "I seen a post earlier that might help out". The replies have been absolute crap. If you're tired of seeing it ignore it.
I'm Never used an AOSP device, or an international device. Before I bought it I thought I would come over kick up a conversation with some people that have a GN and ask some questions. General stuff about development on it. Is there a difference between this one and the international version.
The way you people responded to someone that has never been in this specific device's forum, or messed with any variant of the device before is not right.
rasengan82 said:
FFS ppl the OP was just asking a question. Yes the GN sold by Google is supported by AOSP and will have [email protected]!# ton of ROM and development going for a long time
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Thank you!! I'll talk to you.
Thinking about buying it. Never used or paid much attention to AOSP devices because AT&T doesn't sell them. Are there any catches coming from Non-AOSP devices? I wasn't sure if there's any catches to using the international GSM roms with AT&T. Completely clueless here. I don't necessarily have time to read every post for 10 pages. Looking for a general overview of my questions.
You asked a really obvious question which is why people are responding to you the way they are. The question also doesn't make much sense since it is hard to believe that you this little about this phone. I think you are asking if the Galaxy Nexus works well with AT&T. The answer is yes. It also works well with any GSM network provider. There is good development for this phone, and nothing has to be or will be unique to AT&T.
There's no catches to using this phone with AT&T. Everything works great. Well actually, there are a few catches, I wouldn't get this phone if you were hoping to have:
1. Delayed software updates, or no updates at all
2. Terrible superimposed user interface that is more buggy
3. Lots of bloatware like AT&T Navigator just in case you wanted to pay AT&T for something Google gives for free and does a better job at.
If you are looking for any of those, then yeah, that's the only catch.
Why would I every look into a phone that I can't use? It has nice specs. I can't use it. Close. What's obvious to you isn't so obvious to someone else. Maybe it's all exactly the same as what I'm used to, or maybe there's some stuff you you "just know from experience" that I wouldn't know.
I read your post twice and I have no idea what you were trying to say.
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I read your post twice and I have no idea what you were trying to say.
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Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.
X10D3 said:
Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.
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Yes all GSM rooms currently in the GSM development section will work and all future ones too.
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X10D3 said:
Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.
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This is what I'm saying. You have a very very weak understanding of how this works. Do you really think that there are specific ROMs and tweaks for all of the dozens of carriers people are using this device on? Its an unlocked GSM device. There's no special software needed. You put in your SIM card.
Developers suppor the device. Not the network.
Hi guys I was got in a trapped situation when I bought a S3 International GT-I9300, but receive a T-Mobile SGH-T999 model, the problem is: all apps under language O.S., like S-Voice, Navigation, TTS, etc..., don't understand or speak Brazilian Portuguese.
It's possible to extract a language pack from S3 International and apply into T-Mobile Stock ROM ?
I am moving this out of Development because it is not, and moving it to Q&A. You might want to see if someone can help you in the International forums also. Might actually be a better resource (maybe not though).
Woodrube said:
I am moving this out of Development because it is not, and moving it to Q&A. You might want to see if someone can help you in the International forums also. Might actually be a better resource (maybe not though).
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Thanks.
Hello guys, I am looking to buy the new Galaxy S4 and I have a few questions regarding how Samsung devices generally work. I figured I'd ask on this forum because of how popular and well respected this device is. If anyone could answer just one of the following questions, I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks!
1) Developer support: This is a biggie. I love custom ROMs, AOSP, Kernels, all the works. I noticed that the S3 is split up to multiple different forums based on carriers. Does this split harm the development community? Are some devices more support than others? Could you flash ROMs or kernels from different carriers or are you guys strictly locked to the T-Mobile forums?
2) Reason for the split: Just curious, why exactly is each device separate? Do they each honestly have different radios bands / hardware that makes them completely different? On my One S we could flash ROMs / kernels / radios based on either carrier or international with no issue either way; we also have just one forum.
3) Headphones: Coming from many HTC devices, I never had issues with headphone controls (play/pause, answer/hangup, mic, next/previous). Do Samsung devices fully support headphone controls and mic? I have a pair of Beats with controlTalk optimized for iCraps; they work well on my current device and was wondering the probability them working on the new one.
The reason why I ask here and not on the S4 forums is because no one has an S4 or any real knowledge of that device, WHAT SO EVER. You guys have the device and are sane! Thanks again!
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Closed Source Project said:
Hello guys, I am looking to buy the new Galaxy S4 and I have a few questions regarding how Samsung devices generally work. I figured I'd ask on this forum because of how popular and well respected this device is. If anyone could answer just one of the following questions, I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks!
1) Developer support: This is a biggie. I love custom ROMs, AOSP, Kernels, all the works. I noticed that the S3 is split up to multiple different forums based on carriers. Does this split harm the development community? Are some devices more support than others? Could you flash ROMs or kernels from different carriers or are you guys strictly locked to the T-Mobile forums?
2) Reason for the split: Just curious, why exactly is each device separate? Do they each honestly have different radios bands / hardware that makes them completely different? On my One S we could flash ROMs / kernels / radios based on either carrier or international with no issue either way; we also have just one forum.
3) Headphones: Coming from many HTC devices, I never had issues with headphone controls (play/pause, answer/hangup, mic, next/previous). Do Samsung devices fully support headphone controls and mic? I have a pair of Beats with controlTalk optimized for iCraps; they work well on my current device and was wondering the probability them working on the new one.
The reason why I ask here and not on the S4 forums is because no one has an S4 or any real knowledge of that device, WHAT SO EVER. You guys have the device and are sane! Thanks again!
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1. Generally, yes. But, doesn't seem have affected the S3. Many of the ROMs are supported either by dev(or team) making multiple ROMs, one ROM that supports all, or AROMA installer to choose.
Could you flash other ROMs, kernels, etc? Depends. Some, yes you can straight up flash it. Others, absolutely not. Others, you may have to tweek the build prop BEFORE it's flashed. T-Mobile and AT&T ROMs are usually the two that can. But, you need to find out if it can. Most ROMs will say other carrier support in their name.
2. Different radios, this, that, carrier specific goodies. But, mainly to help with organization.
3. Yes.
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I have an i747 ATT US S3 which is showing it has 4.1.1 ROM.
Is that because I am rooted (but still stock ROM) and have missed OTA update(s)?
Nope. You haven't missed a thing, so far as AT&T.
They haven't released it, and nobody who's talking knows when we'll see it. (regardless of what you read anywhere).
There are a few ROMs out there, like Dandroid which are ported to AT&T S3s.
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Nope. You haven't missed a thing, so far as AT&T.
They haven't released it, and nobody who's talking knows when we'll see it. (regardless of what you read anywhere).
There are a few ROMs out there, like Dandroid which are ported to AT&T S3s.
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Thanks.
ROM Manager on my phone says "Your ROM is not set up to receive OTA updates..." Is that because it is rooted?
Also, can you list a few other ROMs for i747? It is really hard to hunt them down, that is, to find the ones that are compatible with YOUR phone.
I particularly would like to find one (or kernel) that has "sound improvement" module in it. I had supercurio's voodoo sound on my earlier S1, and the S3 sound for music is nowhere near that in quality.
Yes.
Look in AT&T Original Android development and AT&T Android development.
The headers tell all.
Read the threads and you'll learn what you need to. :thumbup:
Thanks for those great leads--lots of stuff there.
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Thanks for those great leads--lots of stuff there.
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Although a harsh response he's correct. We don't really push favorites here. If you had looked for rom's you'd find them as they are in the development sections.
Are you on a Canadian carrier or at&t ?
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all i see is I9300 gets this I9300 gets that! bla bla wile we I710 users are at a standstill!
now i dont know how many I710 devs we have here but im sure you guys are tired of it as well.
Its like one brother getting more stuff then the other brother, spec wise i am aware that the I9300 has the quad core and the exynos chipset thing going on but they lack ram! we have 2gb they only have 1. and when it comes to android OS especially JB and above processor is not everything android os is getting lighter believe or not so dual care is plenty for now and where it counts even RAM footprint is lighter with kitkat.
now i have been developing for the xperia play for some time now but now i have moved on to this galaxy s3. despite the knowledge i have from xperia play, Xperia and Samsung are very different hardware and software changes so that being said i am a noob again now relearning the android basics for the galaxy S3. now im not sure how hard it is to port to the galaxy S3 but i have tried and im stuck at bootanimation. but back to topic I want to learn to port roms from the I9300 to our I710 so that we also can enjoy the latest updates. I encourage other devs to also give it a try:good:
just my 2 cents
xdarkmario said:
all i see is I9300 gets this I9300 gets that! bla bla wile we I710 users are at a standstill!
now i dont know how many I710 devs we have here but im sure you guys are tired of it as well.
Its like one brother getting more stuff then the other brother, spec wise i am aware that the I9300 has the quad core and the exynos chipset thing going on but they lack ram! we have 2gb they only have 1. and when it comes to android OS especially JB and above processor is not everything android os is getting lighter believe or not so dual care is plenty for now and where it counts even RAM footprint is lighter with kitkat.
now i have been developing for the xperia play for some time now but now i have moved on to this galaxy s3. despite the knowledge i have from xperia play, Xperia and Samsung are very different hardware and software changes so that being said i am a noob again now relearning the android basics for the galaxy S3. now im not sure how hard it is to port to the galaxy S3 but i have tried and im stuck at bootanimation. but back to topic I want to learn to port roms from the I9300 to our I710 so that we also can enjoy the latest updates. I encourage other devs to also give it a try:good:
just my 2 cents
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The I9300 is an unlocked GSM phone with no carrier affiliations. The phone is available in Korea...where Samsung is as well as the rest of the world. International, unlocked phones will ALWAYS get everything first or exclusively. You are in the Sprint forum...a CDMA, carrier update driven device. For this device to get similar features it needs to either be requested by Sprint, or suggested by Samsung...then approved by both, then to also meet any federal specifications if it affects the telephone/transmitting function at all. In order to do proper ports you need device trees, which in the past for AOSP ROMs has been driven by Cyanogenmod. You have seen that they have now gone commercial..with all the work they have put into every device, good for them. But that means less time and effort put into work on older devices. If you look in Themes and Apps you will see S5 this and S5 that, or Android L this or that.... apps and themeing elements can be ported more easily as piecemeal things. You will find that if you switch to a GSM carrier and phone you will be able to also use most I9300 ROMs. CDMA is a different animal.
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The I9300 is an unlocked GSM phone with no carrier affiliations. The phone is available in Korea...where Samsung is as well as the rest of the world. International, unlocked phones will ALWAYS get everything first or exclusively. You are in the Sprint forum...a CDMA, carrier update driven device. For this device to get similar features it needs to either be requested by Sprint, or suggested by Samsung...then approved by both, then to also meet any federal specifications if it affects the telephone/transmitting function at all. In order to do proper ports you need device trees, which in the past for AOSP ROMs has been driven by Cyanogenmod. You have seen that they have now gone commercial..with all the work they have put into every device, good for them. But that means less time and effort put into work on older devices. If you look in Themes and Apps you will see S5 this and S5 that, or Android L this or that.... apps and themeing elements can be ported more easily as piecemeal things. You will find that if you switch to a GSM carrier and phone you will be able to also use most I9300 ROMs. CDMA is a different animal.
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thanks for clearing some of that up for me.
But i was wondering, at the current time i dont care about phone data or signal because my phone is not activated at the moment and i dont know if i want to. does this make it easier to port roms to my sprint phone or do i still run the risk of bricking?
so far the basic and most important rules i know about porting to the galaxy s3 is dont downgrade the bootloader/modem and make sure to edit the meta-inf update-script to the correct blocks to avoid bricks.
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thanks for clearing some of that up for me.
But i was wondering, at the current time i dont care about phone data or signal because my phone is not activated at the moment and i dont know if i want to. does this make it easier to port roms to my sprint phone or do i still run the risk of bricking?
so far the basic and most important rules i know about porting to the galaxy s3 is dont downgrade the bootloader/modem and make sure to edit the meta-inf update-script to the correct blocks to avoid bricks.
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That sounds about right. You might also need a compatible kernel so as not to have wrong device trees.
Why is there complaints about this? Last I checked the International version is incapable of handing kitkat due to ram yet us with 2gb of ram already have it.
That's why I'm mad, we have more ram and still neglected
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