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Please advise! S-OFF 2.2 reverted back to 2.1 after Nandroid restore

Guys, I had been rocking it with an Unrevoked S-OFF root + OTA update. Everything was great. Then I got careless and tried to flash some mod .zip files today and got caught in a splash screen loop. All I could do was nandroid restore from Clockwork. It got me out of the loop, but my phone is now back to 2.1 and all my apps are gone etc etc. But I'm almost certain that I did the backup AFTER I applied the OTA, so I don't understand why I reverted.
The good news is that I'm still S-OFF and I should have Titanium backups on my SD card. The bad news is two fold.
A) I'm not sure the proper steps to take to get back to OTA w/o any issue.
B) when I go to Market, I can't install any apps (getting a download error failure everytime)
Please help! Thanks!
EDIT: RESOLVED!

flash the 2.2 update.zip again

dirtydozen said:
flash the 2.2 update.zip again
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Hey thx for responding. Not sure what you mean - I used the OTA to get to 2.2 last time. Since I'm still S-OFF, do you think it's safe to take the update again?
These are the instructions I followed the first time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755035
Other note: The only apps I still have installed are the stock apps AND Superuser. Not sure how/why SU survived while the others did not, but it's there.

If your already rooted, which there's no reason you shouldn't be, grab a 2.2 ROM and flash it. Even a stock rooted 2.2 ROM.
Occum's Razor says you didn't back up after the update and restored with a 2.1 backup.

fr4nk1yn said:
Occum's Razor says you didn't back up after the update and restored with a 2.1 backup.
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... well I know someone that is damn sure making a 2.2 backup when I get this issue resolved!
I think I found the solution (using OTA).
First I had to data wipe my hard drive, because until I did that i could not access any market downloads and basically the OS was behaving like it was crapped up. Data wipe fixed all that and put me back to stock 2.1. Of course then I couldn't apply the OTA because i was rooted. So I moved the OTA zip to SD card and renamed it update.zip, and launched it from Clockwork. Looks like it worked
PS. No offense to the ROM guys on here, but I'm just not really into custom ROM's. Mostly b/c I don't understand them. But in any event, I just like having the "official" ROM, and then tweaking it to the Nth degree.

[Q] ? ROM flashing, deodexing, & Titanium ?

Currently stock 2.2 (3.29x), odexed ROM, rooted.
Questions:
1) Would this allow me to manually deodex my phone:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-themes/4620-how-manually-deodex-your-phone.html
2) If I made full backups using Titanium from my odexed, stock ROM, can I restore those apps and data back onto a deodexed ROM?
3) When I flash a new ROM, I gather most of them will wipe all the apps and files from my phone. Is that correct? Under what condition will a new ROM flash NOT wipe the data? RUUs? I'm asking because I know 3.30x is coming.
4) When someone takes the release OTA 3.3x, root it, and deodex it, can I flash it over my stock odexed ROM and not lose any apps/data, as well as have everything work?
Thank you!

Bump--will someone please provide some guidance?
Another question: If I restore apps and data from one phone to another, with both phones operating (using the same gmail account), will it cause a problem?
I was wondering if Android apps install with unique IDs that would cause confusion/conflict between devices.
Thanks.

Trying again in hopes that I get some answers, in particular, #1. If I can manually deodex my phone with the stock ROM, I won't have to rebuild everything.
Later, I presume, I can just update using a deodexed/rooted RUU without losing anything?

snovvman said:
Currently stock 2.2 (3.29x), odexed ROM, rooted.
Questions:
1) Would this allow me to manually deodex my phone:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-themes/4620-how-manually-deodex-your-phone.html
2) If I made full backups using Titanium from my odexed, stock ROM, can I restore those apps and data back onto a deodexed ROM?
3) When I flash a new ROM, I gather most of them will wipe all the apps and files from my phone. Is that correct? Under what condition will a new ROM flash NOT wipe the data? RUUs? I'm asking because I know 3.30x is coming.
4) When someone takes the release OTA 3.3x, root it, and deodex it, can I flash it over my stock odexed ROM and not lose any apps/data, as well as have everything work?
Thank you!
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1.) No, that was made for a different phone and if you try you will get bootloops.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795104
2.) Yes. I've done it going from Stock 3.29 to Myn's rom.
3.) You can flash any rom over any other rom and retain your data.
It does however cause major compatibly problems as most roms are designed differently.
You can just flash over an updated version of the same rom though.
i.e. Going from version 1 to version 2 of the same rom.
Ruu's will wipe everything back to stock. (and un-root I think.)
and 3.30 won't be an OTA it is only being shipped on new phones because they have a different hardware that requires the changes in 3.30.
If everything is stock you should be able to flash it over your 3.29 rom.
4.) I am not sure on this. Just make a Nandroid backup and try it.
If it bootloops or doesn't work, just boot to recovery and restore you Nand.
Nandroid Backup before you attempt ANYTHING.

xNotta said:
1.) No, that was made for a different phone and if you try you will get bootloops.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795104
2.) Yes. I've done it going from Stock 3.29 to Myn's rom.
3.) You can flash any rom over any other rom and retain your data.
It does however cause major compatibly problems as most roms are designed differently.
You can just flash over an updated version of the same rom though.
i.e. Going from version 1 to version 2 of the same rom.
Ruu's will wipe everything back to stock. (and un-root I think.)
and 3.30 won't be an OTA it is only being shipped on new phones because they have a different hardware that requires the changes in 3.30.
If everything is stock you should be able to flash it over your 3.29 rom.
4.) I am not sure on this. Just make a Nandroid backup and try it.
If it bootloops or doesn't work, just boot to recovery and restore you Nand.
Nandroid Backup before you attempt ANYTHING.
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Thanks so much for your reply. I read your thread on #1, subscribed, in hoping that there may be a solution. I'm confused by your response #3, and how it relates to post #3 on the thread you cited. I thought I read that you wanted to manually deodex because you don't want to re-set thing up? If a ROM flash (not RUU) will simply overlay, why would you need to re-set thing up?
A couple of follow ups--If I make a full backup using Ti-Backup from an odexed/OE ROM, doesn't the odex files get backed up with it? So when I restore onto a deodexed ROM, wouldn't that cause a problem?
I'm in the same boat as you. I want to flash to the new 3.30 dodexed ROM so I can remove some taskbar icons (and get the newer ROM), but I don't want to re-setup everything I have done with my OE Evo ROM.
But, if I understand you, I CAN flash the 3.30/deodexed/rooted ROM over my OE 3.29 odexed ROM and everything will remain?
Thanks again! (and for the Nandroid reminder too)
Edit:
I see why this won't work--it's an RUU, therefore it will wipe?
[Supersonic RUU 3.30.651.2 | Kernel-Build149] - Flashable Zips - Odex and Deodex Ver.

snovvman said:
I thought I read that you wanted to manually deodex because you don't want to re-set thing up? If a ROM flash (not RUU) will simply overlay, why would you need to re-set thing up?
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In theory flashing over a similar rom should not cause a problem since all the files are the same.
So if that's right, you wouldn't loose any of your settings since it would kind of be like an upgrade.
But that's a good point. I didn't even think to just flash a DeOdex'd version of the same rom over my Odex'd rom.
The thing that stopped me from successfully de-odexing my rom was the framework-res.apk, any modification of the .xml's in that file would prevent the phone from booting. So I don't know if that will cause a problem if you flash the De-Odex'd rom on top.
Titanium Backup(TiBu) actually restores everything like home screen layouts, ringtones and settings and the donate version has hypershell that makes it so you dont have to click install on every app.
snovvman said:
If I make a full backup using Ti-Backup from an odexed/OE ROM, doesn't the odex files get backed up with it? So when I restore onto a deodexed ROM, wouldn't that cause a problem?
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I can't be completely sure, but I wouldn't try restoring system apps.
When I switched to a DeOdexed rom I went though every backup and didn't restore any of the system apps that would have still been Odex'd.
But I imagine TiBu would just replace those system files with the original Odex'd ones which kind of defeats the idea of DeOdex-ing, lol.
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But, if I understand you, I CAN flash the 3.30/deodexed/rooted ROM over my OE 3.29 odexed ROM and everything will remain?
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I think if you do that you would end up with DeOdex'd system apps but you would have to go though and delete the .odex files from /system/apps/.
It might not even work flashing a DeOdex'd rom over an Odex'd rom.
If it does work, your data should still be there.
snovvman said:
I see why this won't work--it's an RUU, therefore it will wipe?
[Supersonic RUU 3.30.651.2 | Kernel-Build149] - Flashable Zips - Odex and Deodex Ver.
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That is actually the rom extracted from the RUU.
So a wipe is probably recomended, but I don't think rom's touch the part of the phone where our settings are stored so it shouldn't wipe. (if it works)
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/<-- that's the official RUU files, but they will reset your recovery back to stock and probably remove root.
That's going to be a really long post, haha. xD
Anyways, I would say do a Nandroid Backup or two (just in case) and wipe data, cache, and dalvik and flash the 3.30 rom .zip that was in the link you posted.
Then use TiBu to restore everything with the exception of the apps with red names, as those are system apps.
You need to restart you phone after TiBu finishes restoring.
You can always go back to your original nand backup if it doesn't work out.
I was reluctant to leave stock but once you try a better rom you wonder why you didn't switch earlier.
Hopefully someone with more experience can add to what I missed.

Thank you again for taking the time to reply.
Is it true that only system apps are odexed? What about market applications? I understand the concept of not restoring (via TiBu) system apps, but is it possible that there are other applications use the odex file?
I'm curious whether the state of odex/deodex is a system-wide property, where, if the system (phone) is deodexed, new installed are laid down as deodexed, and that would be the oppsite to be true for odexed phones?
When TiBu backs up an app that is odexed, does it backup both files and later try to restore both, even onto a deodexed system?
I presume it would be okay to restore "data only" on the system apps (going from odex to deodex)?
Lastly, not that I'd want to, I presume running deodexed precludes any possibility of OTA updates? Also, what about system app updates, like the recent Visual Voicemail update? Will it get installed as odexed because it is OE?

[Q] Clockwork Recovery Question On Stock Rom

Hey, this may seem like a silly question but i would rather ask it than brick my device.
I have rooted and s-off my stock rom, i have installed all my apps and settings and ive got it just the way i like it. i have created a nandroid backup using clockwork mod.
I now want to try Gingervillian rom, ive got titanium backup to install all the apps back and that but what i want to know is:
Will i be able to restore my stock rom from the nandroid backup with all my apps and setting in tact, even though s-off is set and its rooted. i know a read somewhere that flashing a stock rom on a phone with s-off can semi-brick it... so will clockwork recovery do the same?

When you make a 'nandroid' backup via ROM manager/CWM Recovery, it makes essentially a carbon copy of the current setup of your ROM (not your radio, S-Off status, etc.). Literally everything is perfectly as you have it now. It just like doing a full HDD backup of your computer.
When you restore this backup, it simply brings back your ROM from exactly how it was. There is no effect on your root or S-off, or your radio.
So, if you do a nandroid backup, then wipe the device and flash another ROM i.e. Gingervillain, and make a nandroid of that, you can then freely switch back and forth between the 2 (or more) recoveries via ROM manager/CWM Recovery, with no issues.
The issues with bricking as you're referring to are if you for some reason try to somehow flash a non-rooted ROM, which would most definitely cause issues. In order to get back your phone to stock-stock-stock-stock (unroot and S-on), you will need to follow unroot instructions and flash an official unrooted RUU/PC10IMG.zip to get back to everything as it came out of the box.
Hope this helps, let me know if I need to clarify.

thank you very much matey much appreciated!!

bootloop after OTA

Hi,
after restoring my nandroid from stock rom and flashing stock boot.img and recovery.img my HOX boots up fine. (CID T-MOB101, Hboot 1.36).
Then i´ve done a factory reset and wiped the internal SD. After that, rebooted the phone, connected it to my WLAN and started an OTA.
No errors there, but after the update Process only boot-loops. I´ve tried fastboot erase cache and the factory reset option in fastboot.
Still boot-loops.
Any Ideas what i can do now?
Thanks!

Must have removed something from the stock nandroid. Try some other backup from nandroid thread and retry the process.

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Hi,
after restoring my nandroid from stock rom and flashing stock boot.img and recovery.img my HOX boots up fine. (CID T-MOB101, Hboot 1.36).
Then i´ve done a factory reset and wiped the internal SD. After that, rebooted the phone, connected it to my WLAN and started an OTA.
No errors there, but after the update Process only boot-loops. I´ve tried fastboot erase cache and the factory reset option in fastboot.
Still boot-loops.
Any Ideas what i can do now?
Thanks!
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Try restoring your backup once again and see if the issue persists. Maybe your backup is corrupted.
If that is the case, try flashing the Stock Rom with the 3.19 base (Latest) which is available in the development thread.

Or get a "new" stock nandroid backup here and try again !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975140
If the JB version is not there, get a 2.17 based nandroid matching your main version. And also flash back the 2.17 stock recovery and update again to the JB software.

Thanks to all for your answers. But - if the phone works fine after restoreing nandroid, should the problem really be searched there?
The bootloop happend at first boot AFTER the OTA.
Could it be a problem that i had installed AHRD 20 and a jb hboot and then restored an ICS nandroid (4.0.3) ?
Can anyone point me to an official T-Mobile JB RUU? I used the search, but only can find dead links or ICS Versions.
My only Target is to get the HOX completely stock (and up to date) for selling it.

It could be in the ota ! I had a similar case a while back. We solved that by :
1: flashing the firmware to update the hboot
2: restore a nandroid JB backup
Check for a JB tmob 101 backup if its there you can do the same

Ok, got it working after using a JB T-Mobile nandriod. Thanks again.
Now its time to put hands on the Nexus4
regards

[Q] Backup done, ready for root?

Hi. I backed up my phone using the backup method found here: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28296/full-backup-of-non-rooted-devices
This method uses CMD and creates an android backup file (.ab) I want to unlock my bootloader and add the custom clockwork recovery. Of course unlocking the bootloader wipes everything. So if i were to restore everything with the .ab file, then do the custom recovey with the superuser thing, would that give me root, and would all of my apps and data be restored as they are right now?
Probably a stupid question, but i want to be completely 100% sure i won't mess up my phone. I know its going to void warranty, which would be a problem if i dropped it of course
Thanks

It should work yes, you can also backup apps with an app called carbon. Free in the playstore.
Then unlock the bootloader,flash a custom recovery and make a backup of the stock rom in there right away too (needed when you want to go back to full stock for future updates) its called a nandroid backup.
Then root it and restore, or install a brand new custom already rooted rom

Thanks a lot
If it was a custom rom i chose to install, will it still restore? or would it need to be the original stock for the restore to work properly?

Danw20 said:
Thanks a lot
If it was a custom rom i chose to install, will it still restore? or would it need to be the original stock for the restore to work properly?
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Afaik know you can restore apps on any rom with carbon. Watch out with restoring system data, it can crash the rom.
Because some custom roms have more changes and if you restore system parts it will break the rom. But apps should not be a problem. The most important thing is that you do a nandroid backup of the stock rom. The rest is easy to setup new in the worst case.

Brilliant. Thanks for the help, much apreciated.
Was half expecting an answer like that, i think i will give root stock a go, then probably when HTC stop updating i will be very tempted to give a custom a go.
Cheers

I have unlocked the bootloader, i think i have flashed the recovery, downloaded nandroid and still says i need root, so i downloaded the superuser thing and when i try to install the binary thing it says there is an error. Anything i can do?
Update: I have learnt Its all good now.

Good mate ! Have fun with your rooted phone
CASE CLOSED !