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Nandroid restore question

Hi,
My first post.
I recently rooted using unrEVOked 3, did a Nandroid backup right after.
I would like to unlock NAND, but want to go back to my Nandroid backup after I unlock NAND.
After unlocking NAND can I run a Nandroid restore and just use my original Nandroid backup that was rooted?

krypto1300 said:
Hi,
My first post.
I recently rooted using unrEVOked 3, did a Nandroid backup right after.
I would like to unlock NAND, but want to go back to my Nandroid backup after I unlock NAND.
After unlocking NAND can I run a Nandroid restore and just use my original Nandroid backup that was rooted?
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Yes you can BUT if you aren't currently using a rooted stock rom this is going to cause issues and the root wont have that much of an effect as you wont have superuser "app" to allow you to grant su permission.
What i suggest is downloading titanium back up and having it back up all your apps + data. it is free int he market for a basic version (the paid version is EXTREMELY worth it as it allows for auto install of apps without having to click the install and ok buttons along with a few other very nice features) once yuo have all your apps and data backed up do the full nand. Then either flash the stock rooted rom or a custom rom of your choice (lots of great choices out there we have amazing devs working with evo) and then re download titanium back up and have it install apps.
this should give you everything back how it was except you may have to reput out your widgets. Once you have everything back to where you want it (widgets all apps ok etc) on the rom you choose i would go ahead and make a new nand so that you have a fall back in the future.

Unrevoked 3 would have rooted the phone so there won't be any problem with performing a full root (I recommend simpleroot) and installing the NAND

063_XOBX said:
Unrevoked 3 would have rooted the phone so there won't be any problem with performing a full root (I recommend simpleroot) and installing the NAND
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but unrevoked doesnt install a rooted rom does it? with out a rooted rom, the market for example wont work along with a few other things. So if he is on THE stock rom and nandroids back while it will in fact work ... it will have issues functioning fully. until he upgrades to a rooted rom whether it be a stock rooted or a custom rom.
this is all not an issue obviously if he already has a rooted rom (ie stock rooted or custom) that he has flashed to the phone. then no issues nandroid away.

Total Backup solution needed

I need to do a total backup of my Desire, as I have the Android Market problem, and I have tried everyrthing and I mean everything trying to fix it without having to do a factory reset. So please dont give me tips on how to fix it.
What I do need information on is how I can totaly backup my desire, meaning
contacts
sms
google maps starred loactions
and all downloaded apps with their settign are backed up
I am aware that there are things on the Android market that I can download to backup different bits at a time, but I cant use Android Market app to download anything so I need to get apps that I can put on the desire from my pc.
Any ideas would be very helpful.
My desire is running Android 2.2 and has not been rooted or modded in any way.

-Root your Desire unsing unrevoked
-Install Titanium Backup

bubble said:
-Root your Desire unsing unrevoked
-Install Titanium Backup
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Titanium backup is not necessary - after rooting just use Nandroid backup from recovery.

Is there a way of backing up app data without rooting?
i.e. I want to be able to back up Angry Birds data so if I factory reset I can reinstall all my scores

Lothaen said:
Is there a way of backing up app data without rooting?
i.e. I want to be able to back up Angry Birds data so if I factory reset I can reinstall all my scores
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pretty sure the angry birds data is kept on the sd card?

Lothaen said:
Is there a way of backing up app data without rooting?
i.e. I want to be able to back up Angry Birds data so if I factory reset I can reinstall all my scores
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No. You will lose your scores.
Sent from my Evil Lair using Doomsday Device

Ik Desire said:
No. You will lose your scores.
Sent from my Evil Lair using Doomsday Device
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yea, the APK is on the SD, but the data is on the phone - don't want to lose that after the hours I spent getting 3 stars on a lot of it... any suggestions?

pilgrim011 said:
Titanium backup is not necessary - after rooting just use Nandroid backup from recovery.
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Titanium Backup is a more flexible solution.
I don't see how backing up the whole nandroid and restoring it would fix anything, the phone would be in the exact same state.

Nothing that doesn't involve rooting to save data?

No way to do that. The data is simply saved in a partition that normal users can't access. So root is actually necessary in this case. Pretty easy and harmless, especially since you can unroot if you want to.

I thought so - I also assume to restore backups you'd need to be rooted too - silly - you'd think that some way to backup app data would be fairly common (to non-rooted bog standard users)...

sakai4eva said:
No way to do that. The data is simply saved in a partition that normal users can't access. So root is actually necessary in this case. Pretty easy and harmless, especially since you can unroot if you want to.
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Actually, I wouldnt call it exactly harmless. Depends on how you've gone about rooting it and what precautions you've taken.
If you're a newbie, ensure the following before you root:
Make a goldcard-Absolutely essential if you have an SLCD Desire, since RUUs are dificult to find for unrooting, if you're branded
Ensure that an RUU for your country is available, or a generic one which is sure to work.

Lothaen said:
I thought so - I also assume to restore backups you'd need to be rooted too - silly - you'd think that some way to backup app data would be fairly common (to non-rooted bog standard users)...
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There are apps to backup certain things like SMS and Application Installations (without data), which can work without being rooted. If you want the restoration to mimic the previous state of that app with data, then you need to access the system as root.

I backed up using Titanium backup after using unrevoked to root my device.
I now have a problem doing a OTA update from T-mobile/HTC (update 2.12.110.4)
It downloads then asks me to install to which I cay yes, it reboots and just sits at a screen. when I press the power button its shows the clockworkmod recovery v2.5.0.7
and says verfication signature failed and lets me reboot and doesnt install the update.
What is this?

digo21 said:
I backed up using Titanium backup after using unrevoked to root my device.
I now have a problem doing a OTA update from T-mobile/HTC (update 2.12.110.4)
It downloads then asks me to install to which I cay yes, it reboots and just sits at a screen. when I press the power button its shows the clockworkmod recovery v2.5.0.7
and says verfication signature failed and lets me reboot and doesnt install the update.
What is this?
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OTA updates dont (usually) work after rooting. In most Rooted ROMs they wont download. In some they do, and wont update. OTA are like RUUs. They try to upgrade the factory version of the software and should be used only on non-rooted Desires. Anyway I dont see why you need them. In case you're rooted, the latest version of your custom ROMs would be better than OTAs..

How would I go back to the standard rom - is it by doing a factory reset?

digo21 said:
How would I go back to the standard rom - is it by doing a factory reset?
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If you mean you want to take your phone back to what it was when you first got it..This is called reverting to Stock
If you have rooted since you got the phone, and have not put on a custom ROM like Cyanogen, Aurax or LeeDroid, your phone is now basically Rooted Stock..In this case, if you just want to remove all the custom apps and data, you can do a factory reset..This does not remove the rooting. The app Superuser Manager will still be in your phone menu, and Recovery ROM-Clockworkmod/Amon Ra will still be on the phone. In brief, the rooting process is apparent to service engineers.
If you have put on a custom ROM like Cyanogen, Aurax or LeeDroid after rooting, if you just want to get your phone to the HTC look, you can flash a Stock based ROM-Froyo or Non Froyo (Just search for "Stock rooted ROM"). This will get you the HTC sense interface.
But if your purpose is to take phone back for warranty purpose and don't want them to know you've rooted it, you need to flash an RUU over your current setup. This will remove rooting process and get it back to factory setup.

droidzone said:
If you mean you want to take your phone back to what it was when you first got it..This is called reverting to Stock
If you have rooted since you got the phone, and have not put on a custom ROM like Cyanogen, Aurax or LeeDroid, your phone is now basically Rooted Stock..In this case, if you just want to remove all the custom apps and data, you can do a factory reset..This does not remove the rooting. The app Superuser Manager will still be in your phone menu, and Recovery ROM-Clockworkmod/Amon Ra will still be on the phone. In brief, the rooting process is apparent to service engineers.
If you have put on a custom ROM like Cyanogen, Aurax or LeeDroid after rooting, if you just want to get your phone to the HTC look, you can flash a Stock based ROM-Froyo or Non Froyo (Just search for "Stock rooted ROM"). This will get you the HTC sense interface.
But if your purpose is to take phone back for warranty purpose and don't want them to know you've rooted it, you need to flash an RUU over your current setup. This will remove rooting process and get it back to factory setup.
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So doing a factory reset wont remove the clockworkmod from my phone then?
How would I go about doing a RUU as I dont really need my phone rooted generally, and really only needed it for the Titanium backup?
Speaking of Titanium backup once I do the RUU I'm guessing I wont be able to restore my titanium backup bits, as I wont have root access anymore?

digo21 said:
So doing a factory reset wont remove the clockworkmod from my phone then?
How would I go about doing a RUU as I dont really need my phone rooted generally, and really only needed it for the Titanium backup?
Speaking of Titanium backup once I do the RUU I'm guessing I wont be able to restore my titanium backup bits, as I wont have root access anymore?
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You just got your wish answered! Check out this thread. Apparently Titanium can be run in a Temporary Root mode, thus allowing us to restore items even after unrooting!

So doing a factory reset wont remove the clockworkmod from my phone then? No, it wont!
How would I go about doing a RUU as I dont really need my phone rooted generally, and really only needed it for the Titanium backup? How to Unroot If you want specific help on any step, you may ask freely. Just do a background readup by searching though, since there are a lot of guides here too.

[Q] Clockwork Recovery Question On Stock Rom

Hey, this may seem like a silly question but i would rather ask it than brick my device.
I have rooted and s-off my stock rom, i have installed all my apps and settings and ive got it just the way i like it. i have created a nandroid backup using clockwork mod.
I now want to try Gingervillian rom, ive got titanium backup to install all the apps back and that but what i want to know is:
Will i be able to restore my stock rom from the nandroid backup with all my apps and setting in tact, even though s-off is set and its rooted. i know a read somewhere that flashing a stock rom on a phone with s-off can semi-brick it... so will clockwork recovery do the same?

When you make a 'nandroid' backup via ROM manager/CWM Recovery, it makes essentially a carbon copy of the current setup of your ROM (not your radio, S-Off status, etc.). Literally everything is perfectly as you have it now. It just like doing a full HDD backup of your computer.
When you restore this backup, it simply brings back your ROM from exactly how it was. There is no effect on your root or S-off, or your radio.
So, if you do a nandroid backup, then wipe the device and flash another ROM i.e. Gingervillain, and make a nandroid of that, you can then freely switch back and forth between the 2 (or more) recoveries via ROM manager/CWM Recovery, with no issues.
The issues with bricking as you're referring to are if you for some reason try to somehow flash a non-rooted ROM, which would most definitely cause issues. In order to get back your phone to stock-stock-stock-stock (unroot and S-on), you will need to follow unroot instructions and flash an official unrooted RUU/PC10IMG.zip to get back to everything as it came out of the box.
Hope this helps, let me know if I need to clarify.

thank you very much matey much appreciated!!

[Q] 4.4.4 rooted with TWRP and S-Off but still on stock ROM

I am very new to rooting etc, but managed to root my HTC One M8 Developer Edition 4.4.4 and flash TWRP Recovery with the help of the guides in this forum. Also got S-off with Sunshine. I have not installed any custom ROM and still have stock
My question is - will I still receive OTA's (if and when HTC releases lollipop for the Developer Edition?

You can't take an OTA with a non-stock recovery. It will download, but not install.
Root, on the other hand, hasn't typically caused a problem. (though you almost invariably lose root in the process)

Being S-OFF and actually already being Dev edition all you need is to have a stock backup the way it is before you flash a ROM and when the time comes just wipe from whatever ROM you've chosen and restore the backup along with flash your stock recovery.
Or if you want less steps just download the bone stock no root, stock recovery RUU and rename it to "0P6BIMG.zip" and place it in the root of your external sdcard.
Boot into hboot and when it asks what you want to do just press up ,give it plenty of time to flash and when it finishes just reboot and it will be stock just the way it came out of the box only it will still be bootlooader unlocked and S-OFF

Thanks
Thanks jball and jshamlet

You bet

jball said:
Being S-OFF and actually already being Dev edition all you need is to have a stock backup the way it is before you flash a ROM and when the time comes just wipe from whatever ROM you've chosen and restore the backup along with flash your stock recovery.
Or if you want less steps just download the bone stock no root, stock recovery RUU and rename it to "0P6BIMG.zip" and place it in the root of your external sdcard.
Boot into hboot and when it asks what you want to do just press up ,give it plenty of time to flash and when it finishes just reboot and it will be stock just the way it came out of the box only it will still be bootlooader unlocked and S-OFF
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OK. I have gone through several guides and posts but am still confused. I had installed TWRP recovery and before rooting had taken a backup of apps, data and system. After rooting I have downloaded several paid apps including Titanium Backup. If I restore from the backup that I had made, these apps will not be available right?. Also I have paid apps running off my SD Card. These would not have been included in the backup and also might not be available?
Is there anyway of flashing stock recovery alone. WIll be grateful for any guidance or link to other posts.
Thanks & Regards

ramsabi said:
OK. I have gone through several guides and posts but am still confused. I had installed TWRP recovery and before rooting had taken a backup of apps, data and system. After rooting I have downloaded several paid apps including Titanium Backup. If I restore from the backup that I had made, these apps will not be available right?. Also I have paid apps running off my SD Card. These would not have been included in the backup and also might not be available?
Is there anyway of flashing stock recovery alone. WIll be grateful for any guidance or link to other posts.
Thanks & Regards
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After flashing a ROM I do the out of box setup and allow Google to restore what apps I normally use,I haven't used titanium backup sense my S2 days cause it's a tossup that it even works right at any given time in my opinion.
As far as recovery goes
Download and install "Flashify" from the playstore and find the stock
recovery.img file.
After installing Flashify go ahead and open the app,give root permission and choose recovery image,now choose file and navigate with whatever root explorer you use and choose the stock recovery.img you downloaded and tap "yup" and it will flash it for you.
ramsabi said:
OK. I have gone through several guides and posts but am still confused. I had installed TWRP recovery and before rooting had taken a backup of apps, data and system. After rooting I have downloaded several paid apps including Titanium Backup. If I restore from the backup that I had made, these apps will not be available right?. Also I have paid apps running off my SD Card. These would not have been included in the backup and also might not be available?
Is there anyway of flashing stock recovery alone. WIll be grateful for any guidance or link to other posts.
Thanks & Regards
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Thanks Amber, And just tobe sure - do you know if I will still have root and S-Off after I flash the stock recovery?

ramsabi said:
Thanks Amber, And just tobe sure - do you know if I will still have root and S-Off after I flash the stock recovery?
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Flashing a recovery in fastboot or with Flashify will do just that: flash a recovery to the recovery partition. Nothing else changes.
Root lives on /system. So as long as you don't flash a non-rooted stock rom you will keep root.
Your paid apps are yours. If you wipe them you can just reinstall them from the PS. If you paid for a root app like TiBu and you don't have root anymore, you still own it but it's not very useful...
You have apps on your external SD??? That is so ICS - don't know if they have libs or app data stored on internal anyway, but let's say you nandroid your current installation, take out your SD card, then wipe everything and install new firmware, recovery and rom. You should still be able to restore just your data partition from the nandroid, re-insert your SD and be good as gold.
As long as your new rom can live with the restored /data that is....
But seriously: Move data to external and install apps to internal - so much easier to manage....
Oh, and once S-off you're always S-off unless you run the code to S-on again. Not even flashing RUU will turn you S-on automatically.

[Q] Questions on after rooting

Ok so I decided to root my VS985 G3. Mainly for better battery as of right now and to run some root apps. Running Lollipop 5.0.1. So far I have userSU and TitaniumBackup installed. I know the greatest thing with root is custom ROMs, but I'm not at that point yet. With just root here are some question I have as far as a noob with this goes.
1. Do I just do back ups with TI or do I still use the stock LG backup app?
2. In the event that I need to do a system restore. Do I need to uninstall root with userSU first then do a regular system restore with the power/vol down button or can I do it with the root still enabled?
3. Until I get comfortable being rooted and how things work I'm not going to do a custom ROM. However being a 25 yr exp computer tech tinkering is in my blood so I know at some point I will do it. With just root do I need to do a TWRP nandroid backup now or wait till I get ready for a custom ROM?
Thanks for helping guys! I am a IOS convert and am loving the Droid life.

jandb19 said:
Ok so I decided to root my VS985 G3. Mainly for better battery as of right now and to run some root apps. Running Lollipop 5.0.1. So far I have userSU and TitaniumBackup installed. I know the greatest thing with root is custom ROMs, but I'm not at that point yet. With just root here are some question I have as far as a noob with this goes.
1. Do I just do back ups with TI or do I still use the stock LG backup app?
2. In the event that I need to do a system restore. Do I need to uninstall root with userSU first then do a regular system restore with the power/vol down button or can I do it with the root still enabled?
3. Until I get comfortable being rooted and how things work I'm not going to do a custom ROM. However being a 25 yr exp computer tech tinkering is in my blood so I know at some point I will do it. With just root do I need to do a TWRP nandroid backup now or wait till I get ready for a custom ROM?
Thanks for helping guys! I am a IOS convert and am loving the Droid life.
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1. Backup with Titanium Backup. It does a more thorough job
2. I dont get your question. Under what circumstance do you want to do a system restore? If you make a system backup while rooted when you restore the backup you will still be rooted?
3. You only make a backup of your system using TWRP or Nandroid Backup if you are going to be playing around with the system folder or if you are install custom rom
Oh yeah and by the way once you root they will know that you rooted your phone regardless of whether supersu is present on the phone. They do this by looking at the LG RCT menu in service settings

So annoying that warranty is void when rooting. Oh well, if I have an issue down the road, hopefully my carrier doesn't look at that menu.
(though, aside from an issue with the internal storage on a Galaxy S i9000m, I've never had to send in a phone for warranty)

Devhux said:
So annoying that warranty is void when rooting. Oh well, if I have an issue down the road, hopefully my carrier doesn't look at that menu
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Actually, removing root and bringing the device to original state is as easy as flashing an official rom. No traces of root left.

itsbighead said:
1. Backup with Titanium Backup. It does a more thorough job
2. I dont get your question. Under what circumstance do you want to do a system restore? If you make a system backup while rooted when you restore the backup you will still be rooted?
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My question there was looking at "IF" I wanted to do a system restore would I need to unroot first or restore as normal then re root. Thinking I loose root when I do a factory restore. Just didn't know if I needed to unroot or not before doing the restore. With my VS985 it will have a few kninks every now and then that doing a restore seems to help fix. Maybe a hardware defect, but nothing that I would send back for a replacement for. Some of those kinks maybe verizon problems too, but restore seems to fix them for a time for me.

jandb19 said:
My question there was looking at "IF" I wanted to do a system restore would I need to unroot first or restore as normal then re root. Thinking I loose root when I do a factory restore. Just didn't know if I needed to unroot or not before doing the restore. With my VS985 it will have a few kninks every now and then that doing a restore seems to help fix. Maybe a hardware defect, but nothing that I would send back for a replacement for. Some of those kinks maybe verizon problems too, but restore seems to fix them for a time for me.
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If what you mean "restore" is to wipe Data/Cache/Dalvik, then you don't need to unroot. After the wipe, you will lose all your installed app, but you start with a clean slate. The root is still there, and you can install SuperSU to get access to it.
To install a custom ROM, you need to install TWRP first. However, you cannot do it from L. You need to first downgrade it back to 10b using the TOT flash. Stomp root it and install TWRP manager from Play store. From TWRP manager you can install TWRP to your VS985. After that, you can flash custom ROM from TWRP.