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cm10 vs Touchwiz. Loss of features.

Cm10 is my favorite rom on the market and I feel its the fastest and smoothest thing you can get as well as adding some very functional features. With any other phone, I would without a doubt be doing everything in my power to install cm10. The note is in a different category however. The note 2 has added functionality in its touchwiz rom that allows for running multiple applications on the screen at the same tine, as well as s pen features such as taking a screen shot and then drawing right onto it.
For those of you that have installed cm10 or other non touchwiz rom, do you miss any of the touchwiz features?

Of course they do.........
but everyone is different the features that they miss still may not be enough to drop CM10 its light and fast and def has its advantages......
i personally on the note will only use TW based roms, i like the features added in it this time around.

I am curious about this. 4.2 has new features I'm excited about, so I'm curious how CM10.1 will turn out. I know the nightly is still fairly new, but I'd like to hear what people say about it, and I'm especially curious if it's possible to port (I'm not sure if I'm using the right term) over that Samsung's TouchWiz has, such as S Note and the ability to trigger it to open when the S Pen is removed.

I can never go back to a touchwiz ROM. I never use the s pen, never use multi window, and I despise the capacitive buttons since my palm always triggers them in landscape. The customizable navbar and spell check are my main reasons for using cm10

simonxliu said:
I can never go back to a touchwiz ROM. I never use the s pen, never use multi window, and I despise the capacitive buttons since my palm always triggers them in landscape. The customizable navbar and spell check are my main reasons for using cm10
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If you never use the S-Pen or multi-window, what was the reason you got the Note II versus other phablet-style devices?

raduque said:
If you never use the S-Pen or multi-window, what was the reason you got the Note II version other phablet-style devices?
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1+ very interesting question......
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raduque said:
If you never use the S-Pen or multi-window, what was the reason you got the Note II versus other phablet-style devices?
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What phones are you referring to? The phone is pretty much the top of the line as far as hardware is concerned and if your locked into a carrier your options are even more limited.

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What phones are you referring to? The phone is pretty much the top of the line as far as hardware is concerned and if your locked into a carrier your options are even more limited.
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There's the Droid DNA, the Spectrum II, the Optimus, even the Nexus 4 and S3. These are all 4.7+ high-resolution (720p or FullHD) devices that I consider competition with the Note II. The main draw and defining feature of the Note II is the S-Pen. If it wasn't for the S-Pen combined with the 5.5" display and Touchwiz software, I probably would not have considered it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phablet

5.5 inch screen and the quad Samsung processors and very nice screen is some very good reasons to go to note 2 versus any of the other phones even if you don't use spen.
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sabre31 said:
5.5 inch screen and the quad Samsung processors and very nice screen is some very good reasons to go to note 2 versus any of the other phones even if you don't use spen.
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Exactly. I don't get how someone else tell u why u should like your phone. Huh?

esincho said:
Exactly. I don't get how someone else tell you why you should like your phone. Huh?
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Nobody was telling anybody how they should like their phone. I was simply wondering why somebody would buy the Note II and not use (or even be interested in) it's defining feature.
To me, that's like buying a convertible and never putting the top down, or buying a Boss 302 Mustang and not tracking it. Just doesn't make sense to me.
PS: I fixed your spelling mistakes.

raduque said:
Nobody was telling anybody how they should like their phone. I was simply wondering why somebody would buy the Note II and not use (or even be interested in) it's defining feature.
To me, that's like buying a convertible and never putting the top down, or buying a Boss 302 Mustang and not tracking it. Just doesn't make sense to me.
PS: I fixed your spelling mistakes.
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I purchased the Note 2 for the screen size, 2GB of RAM, and Quad Core Exynos. The S-Pen is interesting but I almost never use it and didn't factor it in when making my purchase.

ishmael2 said:
I purchased the Note 2 for the screen size, 2GB of RAM, and Quad Core Exynos. The S-Pen is interesting but I almost never use it and didn't factor it in when making my purchase.
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I agree. The S-pen comes in handy for certain things, especially notes, but I don't use it as much as I thought I would.
I had a Treo 750 (came with a stylus) some years ago, the beginning of smartphones. Just having the stylus made things easier. The stylus didn't make the phone it just complemented it IMO. Same with this one only its way advanced and almost part of the phone, again a great thing but not necessary.
I would like to see some type of CM10/TW Hybrid or something that will keep the "cool" features of TW and the S-pen. Maybe someday lol

The DROID dna has some nice hardware but the lack of an sd card slot is a huge turnoff for me. With games coming out being 2+gb its totally unacceptable to be stuck with only 16gb of storage. This also kills the nexus 4 for me. The spectrum 2 SoC sports a weaker gpu and has a smaller screen so that's no competition in my eyes. The Optimus G is competition and S4 with the Adreno 320 gpu seems to edge out the notes 2's SoC but I'm in favor the 5.5 screen and have not had the the best experience with LG phones. The note 2's battery life beats the Optimus G and the Note 2 takes better video if you care about that sort of thing. As far as pictures are concerned the LG has a higher mp rear camera but it doesn't seem to produce better quality images and the front facing camera on the LG is a lower mp camera. The Spen is a nice feature but I like having CM 10/ASOP so that I can have pdroid. If your not familiar with pdroid look it up as it is a great app.

I chose the Note II over the S III for the S-Pen. And, at the time, the multi-view. I want the big screen and big battery and the best performance. But I also want the TouchWiz features. Smart stay, smart alert, pop up play, multi-view, S beam, AllShare Cast, none of that will work on CM10, or AOKP (at least not at the performance TouchWiz will give). I wanted the best Android hardware, and (IMO) the best Android software. If I wanted AOKP more than I wanted TouchWiz I would have a nexus 4, or Galaxy nexus. After the One X I don't plan on buying another HTC device, and the Thrill turned me off LG. Samsung is the only Android OEM I trust for solid hardware and software support after the device ships.
I use the S-Pen just about every time I use my device. I thought after a while the novelty would wear off and I would stop using it. But, I find I enjoy it quite a bit. The only reason I rooted and flashed another ROM was to get multi view. As an added benefit I get to keep all the TouchWiz features I use constantly, and I get to resolve my only two complaints with TouchWiz: more icons on the stock launcher (and keep page buddy), and to choose and re-order the Notification toggles. I can think of many reasons to stay on TouchWiz, but I can't think of a single reason to go on an AOSP based ROM. For me, I don't plan on even trying CM10 or AOKP on this device, even though I couldn't stand running anything else on my One X or S II.
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Ironically for me, I bought the Note 2 for the screen and hardware. I knew spen, multi window, and some other features for me would be gimmicks. The ironic part is, that although I rarely use them, for some reason that is why I'm staying on Tw instead of CM10. I rarely use the spen, but I love having those options. I just don't really see how the spen makes anything easier or more efficient. That being said, I love that stupid thing anyway. I considered Nexus 4 but liked removable battery and bigger screen much better.
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raduque said:
Nobody was telling anybody how they should like their phone. I was simply wondering why somebody would buy the Note II and not use (or even be interested in) it's defining feature.
To me, that's like buying a convertible and never putting the top down, or buying a Boss 302 Mustang and not tracking it. Just doesn't make sense to me.
PS: I fixed your spelling mistakes.
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You're so smart. And not at the same time...

esincho said:
Exactly. I don't get how someone else tell u why u should like your phone. Huh?
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now a days, people need someone to tell them how to wipe their own arses, so, its not surprising when ridiculous questions like this get asked all over this site...
What makes it ever worse, is the fact they don't even post them in the correct (Q&A) section...

Maybe everyone should relax...
I think raduque has a bit of a point. Some people, such as myself, like some of the features TW has associated with the S Pen. Some can care less, as many have you stated. For you guys who don't care about the S Pen features, CM10 the way it is now might work out for you. For those of us who do want some of the S Pen features, hopefully it's something as simple as copying some of the APKs containing those features and porting them over. (I wouldn't know the process yet. I haven't even rooted my phone as of yet.) I can personally care less about the TW launcher, itself, since I use and really like Go Launcher EX, but that said, I'd still like to be able to use the S Pen features, like S Notes, Air View, etc.
But then there's features that I'm not sure whether or not comes from TW that I like, such as Quick Glance, Direct Call, Smart Alert, Turn Over to Mute/Pause, Palm Swiping to Screenshot, Palm Touch to Mute/Pause, etc...

BlackPhantomX said:
But then there's features that I'm not sure whether or not comes from TW that I like, such as Quick Glance, Direct Call, Smart Alert, Turn Over to Mute/Pause, Palm Swiping to Screenshot, Palm Touch to Mute/Pause, etc...
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All these features are built into the core Touchwiz UX. They could be put in AOSP/AOKP, but so far nobody seems to be interested in coding in those features.
I use most of those features daily, and I'm always scribbling something down in Snote.
Not to mention I find the default Google-stock Android theme to be flat and boring.

do our phones have the tech for smart scroll?

being that we already have SMART STAY feature, do you think they will roll out smart scroll in an update?

bones718 said:
being that we already have SMART STAY feature, do you think they will roll out smart scroll in an update?
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Hopefully!
I have a G Note II with rogers in Canada (i317M) and would LOVE this feature.

i did read that the thing preventing it was not hardware but software, so if the sgs 4 runs on the same os as us im sure someone can find a way to port one over

it uses the front camera so yes it does but if samsung doesnt update our phone to include that feature than we will need to wait for a galaxy s4 rom port

Since that is one of the features being touted for IV don't expect that update soon.
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But as soon as the s4 comes out, don't expect to wait long for it to be included in GNII custom roms
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Saw this @ sammobile showing a leaked screen caps of those functions for Galaxy S III ROM, and I'm sure soon will be in Note II's ROM.

"leaked" "galaxy s iv" screen shots http://tmonews.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/samsunggalaxys4.jpg

The screeenshots seen on the inter-webs of this feature has been said to of been taken from a GS3, so this feature is already being tested on current gen devices, so I believe the G Note 2 will definitely be getting this feature, it's just a matter of when.

Yes, even if the GS4 is released, followed by the GS3 update it'll only be a matter of weeks max before it is ported or leaked or just flat out made to work on the GN2 by the powers that be lol.

Samsung has actually been pretty good about updating features on older phones. The GS3 got the smart tilt function the note 2 had. Also, the original note got a bunch of new features with the ICS update that included one hand mods to the keyboard and keypad. They may take a while to get out, but they sure do update features a lot more than other manufactures. I'm guessing that not long after they announce the GS IV they will push updates to the note 2 and GS3 with similar features.

Our phones can do smart scroll. In fact, Samsung worked mainly with the S3 and Note 2 before finalizing the feature on the S4. In a not so distant future, we all will get a firmware update enclosing this welcomed-surprise. However, I will probably keep this feature disabled; "Big Brother Is Watching You." Just Kidding.

I don't see why not.Basically combining the s pen scroll with smart stay.
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any update on getting the GS4 air view/smart scroll feature on GN2?

Samsung Galaxy S4

Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a chance of porting the S4 clock over to the N4. I really like the simple look of it. Thanks
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Check fancy widgets or beautiful widgets. I did a quick search on Google. I suggest searching Google before you post.
And I believe its just the touchwiz clock. Look for that.
I think it looks horrendous but I'm a minimal guy.
Hope that helps

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R: Samsung Galaxy S4
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S4 the Biggest Sh.. Of 2013
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Why?
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AW: Samsung Galaxy S4
Because it's more Galaxy S 3.5 than Galaxy S 4. Same thing Apple did with iPhone 4>4S.
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Still a upgrade regardless...... who cares what they name the phone. At the end of the day, its a success on Samsung's part.

zephiK said:
Still a upgrade regardless...... who cares what they name the phone. At the end of the day, its a success on Samsung's part.
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That's what I'm saying. They doubled the RAM, improved the processor, raised the resolution, made the screen bigger, improved the camera, added some pretty cool software features and yet people are complaining and bashing it lol.
I'm a Nexus fan and will always buy Nexus phones, but the S4 is a solid device and will sell like hotcakes.
People just love to complain.

mackster248 said:
That's what I'm saying. They doubled the RAM, improved the processor, raised the resolution, made the screen bigger, improved the camera, added some pretty cool software features and yet people are complaining and bashing it lol.
I'm a Nexus fan and will always buy Nexus phones, but the S4 is a solid device and will sell like hotcakes.
People just love to complain.
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Only thing i hate is that they sticked with that "white and blue" colors.. i've allways loved black phones:/
They made a special edition SIII in black.. wich had LTE.. but it costed like the same as the SIII + half of that again.. xD made me sad..I wanted to try they're new processors power etc But i had my friends SIII for two weeks, so i got to root and flash and have alittle fun

it still has a hard home key. wtf, arent hard key that only serve one purpose morbidly outdated? and capacitive keys as well, i just always feel as if that is space that could be used for more screen and less hardware... but then again im a google whore and the nexus line can do no wrong.

mackster248 said:
That's what I'm saying. They doubled the RAM, improved the processor, raised the resolution, made the screen bigger, improved the camera, added some pretty cool software features and yet people are complaining and bashing it lol.
I'm a Nexus fan and will always buy Nexus phones, but the S4 is a solid device and will sell like hotcakes.
People just love to complain.
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I agree lol, what did we get from galaxy nexus to nexus 4? A little more pixel, diferent screen tech, bump on camera, mmm better build..... Not much difference software update wasn't there at all, I'm hoping to see Google add a lot feature on their upcoming update, I like TW feature but I hate how it looks completely and sometimes don't feel like flashing a theme, anyways back on topic to the op you might find one in the market soon or here in XDA
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pandeus said:
it still has a hard home key. wtf, arent hard key that only serve one purpose morbidly outdated? and capacitive keys as well, i just always feel as if that is space that could be used for more screen and less hardware... but then again im a google whore and the nexus line can do no wrong.
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Well to be fair..... if you have physical buttons then you don't have onscreen keys meaning more screen estate.
This is getting a little off-topic but.... rumored LG Nexus 5
Rumored specs for the LG “Megalodon” include:
5.2″ OLED Display with 1920×1080 resolution
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 @ 2.3 GHz
3GB LPDDR3 Ram
16/32/64GB of internal storage
16MP rear camera by OmniVision (4k video recording @30FPS, 1080p video recording @60FPS, Real Time HDR & HDR video recording, optical image stabilization, BSI 2.0)
2.1MP front camera (1080p video recording @30FPS)
3300 mAh Lithium Polymer battery
Front positioned stereo speakers
Qualcomm RF360 (LTE 150 Mbps & HSPA+)
Integrated DVB-T / ATSC-antenna
Gesture like controls (navigation, zoom, etc)
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http://androidandme.com/2013/03/news/rumor-is-this-the-lg-nexus-5/

zephiK said:
Well to be fair..... if you have physical buttons then you don't have onscreen keys meaning more screen estate.
http://androidandme.com/2013/03/news/rumor-is-this-the-lg-nexus-5/
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...pie.

pandeus said:
it still has a hard home key. wtf, arent hard key that only serve one purpose morbidly outdated? and capacitive keys as well, i just always feel as if that is space that could be used for more screen and less hardware... but then again im a google whore and the nexus line can do no wrong.
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Keep in mind that the Galaxy S line has been a huge success from the S, to the S3. With each one you only ever see them improving on what the last one had. The S4, is essentially a way faster S1.
Like the iPhone 5, it is essentially a way faster iPhone3G.
What you'll notice is that you'll only find drastic changes to the design if what was previously done didn't sell well.
Think about Nokia and Windows Phone. They've had so little success that they had to go for broke and change everything about their phones. Even Sony took the 'Ericsson' out of their brand to ditch the bad rep and start anew.
The S3 was insanely popular, so the S4 will only have incremental changes. If the S3 had a physical home key and was so successful, why take it out?

mikkis2k said:
Only thing i hate is that they sticked with that "white and blue" colors.. i've allways loved black phones:/
They made a special edition SIII in black.. wich had LTE.. but it costed like the same as the SIII + half of that again.. xD made me sad..I wanted to try they're new processors power etc But i had my friends SIII for two weeks, so i got to root and flash and have alittle fun
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Their two colors is white and black for the S4. Black coming back was a good move.
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mackster248 said:
Their two colors is white and black for the S4. Black coming back was a good move.
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u sure..? I am reading the info right now.. and they are saying white and blue..sIV
EDIT: I saw it, it's called "Nova Black".. in the videos it dosn't look black, or dosn't even look good. I have to see this for my own eyes before even comparing it to my sexy N4!

ebhsimon said:
Keep in mind that the Galaxy S line has been a huge success from the S, to the S3. With each one you only ever see them improving on what the last one had. The S4, is essentially a way faster S1.
Like the iPhone 5, it is essentially a way faster iPhone3G.
What you'll notice is that you'll only find drastic changes to the design if what was previously done didn't sell well.
Think about Nokia and Windows Phone. They've had so little success that they had to go for broke and change everything about their phones. Even Sony took the 'Ericsson' out of their brand to ditch the bad rep and start anew.
The S3 was insanely popular, so the S4 will only have incremental changes. If the S3 had a physical home key and was so successful, why take it out?
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i understand what youre saying as far as designs go. i just hate buttons is all. but as far as popularity goes apple had it right with the iphone 4, and even being an adamant hater of all things apple, i still like how the iphone 4 looks and feels in the hands. but for now im gonna stick with my n4 and pretend to be pretentious because i paid half and got it unlocked

Thinking about buying nexus 4...

But before everyone gets their pitchforks and turn angry mob on me, I'm keeping the note 2, and buying to have a little variety, swapping back and forth between the two.
Am I insane? Anyone else swap between phones on a regular basis?

Why exactly do you want one?
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Something different. Would keep the note stock and take out my modding aggression on the n4.

I would wait for the Nexus 5 and the Nikon camera
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RonnieRuff said:
I would wait for the Nexus 5 and the Nikon camera
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Hmmm,....But thats a good 7-8 months away. Who knows what will be in my pocket by then, lol.
It sucks being a cell junkie.

Got tired of my N4 real fast especially in terms of battery life and screen size. The phone actually hasn't left my house to be honest

stevessvt said:
Hmmm,....But thats a good 7-8 months away. Who knows what will be in my pocket by then, lol.
It sucks being a cell junkie.
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I think it will be out with Key Lime Pie this summer. Google only puts the new OS on a Nexus and KLP is out this summer.
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I did some research, and I guess from what Ive read is new Nexus are released in October, the N4 didnt come out until November.

Sticky thread for other devices

Worth switching from N2?

I currently have a GN2. S4 worth switching to? (Who has...pros/cons?) I have 20 days from TMO to make the choice, but input from experience would be quite helpful.
Reasons for possibly changing:
*Same price for more features
*Better camera
*Better specs
My only concern is the screen may feel too small, I know my TB, and iphone felt stupidly small after N2, But 5 Inches may not feel as lethargic as 4.3/4.

Goto a store doesnt matter what carrier then hold the s4 in your hand at that moment all your questions will be answered.
Trust me on this

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I have the note 2 and s4 its great but it doesn't have pop up browser grrrrrrr
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Nyxagamemnon said:
Goto a store doesnt matter what carrier then hold the s4 in your hand at that moment all your questions will be answered.
Trust me on this
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Ah cant be that good. I know the s4 launcher sucks im using it now. I hate it. But the phone is definetly not bad. Its good as thw note. But I use the note for so much more than just a phone. Its actually more important to me than my laptop.
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janjannsen99 said:
Ah cant be that good. I know the s4 launcher sucks im using it now. I hate it. But the phone is definetly not bad. Its good as thw note. But I use the note for so much more than just a phone. Its actually more important to me than my laptop.
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I use Dodol on the N2. Try that launcher At this point, does seem like I will have to play with the S4 in a store...

Nyxagamemnon said:
Trust me on this
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TRUST him on this bro.
trust him.

nxneko said:
I currently have a GN2. S4 worth switching to? (Who has...pros/cons?) I have 20 days from TMO to make the choice, but input from experience would be quite helpful.
Reasons for possibly changing:
*Same price for more features
*Better camera
*Better specs
My only concern is the screen may feel too small, I know my TB, and iphone felt stupidly small after N2, But 5 Inches may not feel as lethargic as 4.3/4.
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I've had both (T-889, I9500 & M19) and kinda miss my note to be honest. If you find the real estate the most attractive on the Note 2, you will miss it on the GS4. Another thing I miss is the battery life on the Note 2, that thing could last me 2 days without a charge. Overall the the GS4 is a nice device (my personal unit is the i9500) and definitely has some advantages over the Note 2 (full hd, 13mp, newer gpu/cpu) but over all the Note 2 feels much more polished. The screen is more responsive, the UI has had the kinks of the CPU/GPU ironed out from the S3, and the S-Pen makes drawing super easy and fun. I'm sure the development will only help the pros of the GS4, but out of box experience was much better on the Note 2, it even had a more "premium feel". I'm gonna stick it out for a bit with the GS4, but may end up going back to my Note.

not very worth...note 2 is a very good.
fast enough.

KillaHurtz said:
I've had both (T-889, I9500 & M19) and kinda miss my note to be honest. If you find the real estate the most attractive on the Note 2, you will miss it on the GS4. Another thing I miss is the battery life on the Note 2, that thing could last me 2 days without a charge. Overall the the GS4 is a nice device (my personal unit is the i9500) and definitely has some advantages over the Note 2 (full hd, 13mp, newer gpu/cpu) but over all the Note 2 feels much more polished. The screen is more responsive, the UI has had the kinks of the CPU/GPU ironed out from the S3, and the S-Pen makes drawing super easy and fun. I'm sure the development will only help the pros of the GS4, but out of box experience was much better on the Note 2, it even had a more "premium feel". I'm gonna stick it out for a bit with the GS4, but may end up going back to my Note.
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The phone actually slid out of my hand once because it got so slippery.... like 4x actually. that glossy back body is a nightmare (I got a custom backing tho now)
Yeah, all the kinks should be ironed out with roms and OTAs over the coming months though. Battery life wise...Ive seen so many differences in screen on-time its insane in the thread in general. For example, I was going to go with the htc one...until I learned of its battery life (I stole a co-workers one and 1 hr 34min of screen ontime put phone at 65% battery - Thunderbolt moment, anyone?) I get 6HR or so of ontime with the N2 on Verizons LTE and since LTE drains faster...Im guessing I would get more out of the tmo n2? (Wild guess) - Sadly even though Florida is one of TMOs most covered states...I don't think my city got lte yet.
I love the N2, However...
The S4 is like a baker walking by with a more delicious looking tiny cupcake when you just got a huge piece of cake. not only that but... I work at a themepark, and 3/5 people have white GS3 or N2.... It was insanity (Mostly GS3 Dominant, but I could tell there were plenty of N2 Tucked behind otterboxes due to the SPen slot cutout) the S4 At least would be a slight step away from that...

If you are used to the size of the Note 2, the only logical upgrades in the future would be to another Note (Note 3, Note 4, ...). Note 2 is still probably more productive for multitasking than the S4. You won't need features like Air Gestures or Smart Scroll (which probably can be added to N2 in the future). IR blaster is fun to use, but probably not a necessity. If you carry a tablet and a phone, the Note is probably more suited for you. If you just talk on your phone and like to browse a lot, not do any real work, the S4 is the perfect size phone. I've had both so I know. I like the feel of the S4, and the 5" screen doesn't make it tiny at all compared to the 5.5" N2.

GG2012 said:
If you are used to the size of the Note 2, the only logical upgrades in the future would be to another Note (Note 3, Note 4, ...). Note 2 is still probably more productive for multitasking than the S4. You won't need features like Air Gestures or Smart Scroll (which probably can be added to N2 in the future). IR blaster is fun to use, but probably not a necessity. If you carry a tablet and a phone, the Note is probably more suited for you. If you just talk on your phone and like to browse a lot, not do any real work, the S4 is the perfect size phone. I've had both so I know. I like the feel of the S4, and the 5" screen doesn't make it tiny at all compared to the 5.5" N2.
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I mostly use it for just texting, and IM+ Is -constantly- being used. The only issues with the N2 i had was use in daylight screen was impossible to see for me, and it got slightly awkward handling it with one hand. I also use the camera a LOT for taking product photos for etsy. I only used SPen to doodle random things and send it to whoever i was talking to when I felt it was suddenly more convenient then typing.
...I will also state, speaker mode in calls sucked really bad. I never liked calling on N2 much.

nxneko said:
I mostly use it for just texting, and IM+ Is -constantly- being used. The only issues with the N2 i had was use in daylight screen was impossible to see for me, and it got slightly awkward handling it with one hand. I also use the camera a LOT for taking product photos for etsy. I only used SPen to doodle random things and send it to whoever i was talking to when I felt it was suddenly more convenient then typing.
...I will also state, speaker mode in calls sucked really bad. I never liked calling on N2 much.
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I can tell you right now the S4 is not that much better in daylight, compared to the HTC One which is brighter. It's almost impossible for me to see as well with full brightness. While I could handle the N2 size in one hand, I find the smaller form factor of the S4 to be much more comfortable, hence why I decided to get the S4. Plus, I find myself using the SPen less and less with the N2, so I was willing to let that go. If they made the S4 screen work with an SPen, that would have been great (I don't mind not having a holder).

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I can tell you right now the S4 is not that much better in daylight, compared to the HTC One which is brighter. It's almost impossible for me to see as well with full brightness. While I could handle the N2 size in one hand, I find the smaller form factor of the S4 to be much more comfortable, hence why I decided to get the S4. Plus, I find myself using the SPen less and less with the N2, so I was willing to let that go. If they made the S4 screen work with an SPen, that would have been great (I don't mind not having a holder).
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I wish I could one-hand it...but I basically have teen sized hands (short) I never minded the size because of purse. In your opinion, is the S4 Worth the switch from a new-phone standpoint (not upgrade) I would never go HTC after thunderbolt...esp since S4 has a better headphone dac.

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I wish I could one-hand it...but I basically have teen sized hands (short) I never minded the size because of purse. In your opinion, is the S4 Worth the switch from a new-phone standpoint (not upgrade) I would never go HTC after thunderbolt...esp since S4 has a better headphone dac.
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At this moment, probably not. I would at least wait and see what Google has in store software/hardware wise for Android, as Google I/O is next week.