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IMEI CHECK.CO.UK i think i got em uncovered

hello lads, wish everybody is fine and doin well, ive been doing some intelligence and detective work around around the weired fact that IMEI check are the only guyz around with an unlock solution for the UNIVERSAL.
what i accumilated was kindda weired. according to information gathered from this website and specially from my favourite two super stars (BUZZ lightyear and Mchinegod) those legendary stars got it all fine lolll.
what i found is.
IMEI check has some source in HTC inovations in taiwan.
this source has probably supplied em classified Hardware Software information on how to unlock the Universal.
second speculation is that they also has a source that has unrestricted acess to the IMEI-Unlock code database. and he supplies them the assigned codes for some percentage from every unlock they make.
in both cases there is an insider who must ve supplied critical info on raming this device into the corners.
just for the info, i mentioned before that i had a weired problem and that is i wanted to unlock my MDA pro and T-mobile the netherlands told me that my IMEI doesnt exist in thier database or its not a T-mobile universal varient. however i managed my way in contacting someone in HTC and my honest source tracked my IMEI back to T-mobile the netherlands, i offered this source paying him money to gimme the unlock code but he refused in great honesty and said, the entire HTC cant supply me these codes not for free not for a fee, acoording to a business agreement with the T-Mobile. after a while, i got an email from T-Mobile telling me that they have my Unlock code right now and they are ready to supply me the code for like 70 euros or something,,
that shows that there are some leaks around between HTC and its business partners and, our freiends at IMEI check, has foudn some way to access these leaks and make some money.
wish i explained my theory
best regards
shady

why dont they offer then an online unlock... you send them imei number and money... they send you unlock code....
there is an other way they do it

€70 is much less than I was first asked for to have an Unlock code. It was more like €175, and that was for a little Samsung phone before T-Mobile took over One2One.
After you've been using the device for 1 year, your first year contract is finished. After this first year contract, the Universal belongs to you - NOT T-Mobile - and you are therefore legally entitled to do anything you want to with it, including unlocking it. T-Mobile CANNOT legally deny you this right - if they could, the central IMEI databases which disallow network access from stolen devices would simply disallow access to other networks from your IMEI.

thas exactly the point
asking for physical acess to the machine while still sayint that they will not open it and hat all stuff will be made through cable. sooo i think this provides perfect diversion.

Yeah, I think I said in an earlier post that the whole thing about 'sending your Universal in because physical access is required' is a load of bullcrap. It's as shady said, they have an insider at HTC which really makes me question the ethics of their dealings in the first place. I don't think I like these guys very much.

I think you forgot something US (imei-check):
We killed JFK, we are green and we come from Mars. Somewhere on other forum I saw that someone says that we like to collect the MDA PRO's. Yes we love to swim in them . We are aliens and we like that.
These declarations are as true as your conspiracy theory.
WE HAVE NO connection with HTC or any other manufacture or operator. We are just a bunch of programmers which like to work till late not to stay and see if anyone comes with anything for free for us.
This forum should be called Warez and freeware searchers since here all you can read is where to download such software and were to get such thing for free. Only a handful of people from here does developing, rest just a bunch of beggars (sorry for the previos spelling mistake, but hey I'm not a native speaker ).
Florin Mandache
Director of MIGsofT LTD (imei-check.co.uk)

Imei Check
I resent your comments regarding the rest of us no-hopers being 'baggers'.
If it wasn't for forums like this you guys wouldn't have any business cos the vast majority of us would have returned our pda phones due to lack of network support.
I have no qualms paying for unlocking but the networks take the mick by making you wait weeks for the unlock codes.
I dare say you guys have learnt from this forum and if you didnt charge 50 squid for a universal unlock code you would get more respect.
We all have a part to play mate so just remember this:
Without consumers(or baggers as you like to call us) you would have to latch onto somting else so give us a break !!!

i vote with jonboy. if u dont respect this forum why are you on it,,, i have no idea actually + if you think my claims are wrong, there is no need to insult all of us, my friend the way you answered is a hard proof that at least some of my claims have taken a byte at the neck of the truth.
anyway thanks for calling us baggers, but again as jonboy says, these baggers are the guyz making business for you and giving you money. so i wont call em baggers cuz if its not for them you would ve been a bagger.
you IMEI guyz are asking for astaggering 74 E to unlock well i have to mention that T-mobile unlocked my MDA pro for 70 euros which is still 4euros less than what you asked + i dotn have to send it all the way to another country or stuff.
again thanks dear brother for insulting the forum and its people.
best regards
shady

florin_m said:
I think you forgot something US (imei-check):
We killed JFK, we are green and we come from Mars. Somewhere on other forum I saw that someone says that we like to collect the MDA PRO's. Yes we love to swim in them . We are aliens and we like that.
These declarations are as true as your conspiracy theory.
WE HAVE NO connection with HTC or any other manufacture or operator. We are just a bunch of programmers which like to work till late not to stay and see if anyone comes with anything for free for us.
This forum should be called Warez and freeware searchers since here all you can read is where to download such software and were to get such thing for free. Only a handful of people from here does developing, rest just a bunch of beggars (sorry for the previos spelling mistake, but hey I'm not a native speaker ).
Florin Mandache
Director of MIGsofT LTD (imei-check.co.uk)
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Florin, you are a fool.
'nuff said.

florin_m said:
I think you forgot something US (imei-check):
We killed JFK, we are green and we come from Mars. Somewhere on other forum I saw that someone says that we like to collect the MDA PRO's. Yes we love to swim in them . We are aliens and we like that.
Florin Mandache
Director of MIGsofT LTD (imei-check.co.uk)
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Are you really who you say you are? If you are, you must be about ten years old because that statement is so immature, not fit for a grown mature adult.
BTW, where are all the warez on this site? I haven't seen any, or am I just blind, naive or both? We all visit this forum so that we can "hack" some the system parameters of our devices to enhance them and give them "personalities" we like or prefer to have.

actually, i think this florin is just a very erogant man, i still am feeling offended that he called us beggers. do everybody really has to be a developer. well mr wiered headless brainless, when u go to a Dr to take out the permenant disease out of your head do u become a begger, when you go to psyciatrist to take the wiered erogance of your soul do u become a begger, so if you think that when u go to a pro that well help you get rid of all of these wiered stuff in your miniature nature that will make you a bagger, then we might also be considered bagger. and by the way plz when u speak to people again try to get first some schooling second learn some ethics
again lads, just think deeply if our ideas on this forum about how IMEI check got thier hands on the unlocking codes are wrong, what would piss thier boss off, hehehe if someone said soemthing thas not right about me i wouldnt really start a fight on someones wrong calims, but if he uncovered my business then ill fight to recover it back, even by insulting people heheh
best regards
shady

shadykw said:
my friend the way you answered is a hard proof that at least some of my claims have taken a byte at the neck of the truth.
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you lost me here - why you are so sure you are right just because someone responded to you? No offence, but what you said is questionable in the first place... and i simply cannot understand what has the pricing got to do with this? it can be 100 euros - so what?? WHY are you so unhappy?
and generally he was right, most people do not produce anything new for the device, the max we do is copy-paste. Its the truth - why are you complaining - what have you done?
btw, i have got nothing to do with them, never used the service and do not know anyone there in any way... so that you will not say i am from their company too, just because i have a different opinion to yours. And it will not prove that you are 100% right - i hope this is clear at least.

im sorry guyz, i aint no dectaort here and ieve never said im right i just speculated some stuff, and to be honest as i said, i have no proof, its just speculation, and im not complaining about the price the market is open, u dont like someones service, take another. and i have no offense against anybody as well i havent attacked him, it was just someone that began attacking all the forum not me only. and again, im not so sure and im not running an invistigation here buddy, and im usually dotn speak so much here in the forum, but i just dotn wanna get kicked whenever im gonna say soemthing someone is gonan call me a bagger. and yes not everybody is doign something cuz so simply not everybody is a developer, does the fact that im in another field rather than IT or software development must make me shut up and not even talk.
well guyz im sorry anyway if i attacked any body or offended anyone without intentions
again im sorry for that
best regards
shady

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shadykw said:
my friend the way you answered is a hard proof that at least some of my claims have taken a byte at the neck of the truth.
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you lost me here - why you are so sure you are right just because someone responded to you? No offence, but what you said is questionable in the first place... and i simply cannot understand what has the pricing got to do with this? it can be 100 euros - so what?? WHY are you so unhappy?
and generally he was right, most people do not produce anything new for the device, the max we do is copy-paste. Its the truth - why are you complaining - what have you done?
btw, i have got nothing to do with them, never used the service and do not know anyone there in any way... so that you will not say i am from their company too, just because i have a different opinion to yours. And it will not prove that you are 100% right - i hope this is clear at least.
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well said that man
The rest of you n00b-muppets need to shut the hell up. I've known Florin for quite some time now and back in the early days he was of great help to the Windows Mobile community and still is today. To be quite honest, he's right, the majority of you are all beggers. You all want something for nothing. Why should someone break their back to make YOU happy? What have YOU done for the community? Why should anyone spend their precious time helping YOU when all YOU do is leech information?
You want the "truth" behind imei-check? They spend alot of time working on devices to get them unlocked. Sometimes they kill the devices. Said devices cost money. Then when all the hard work is over and they start to earn a reward from their work, some jumped up little prick decides to reverse engineer the software and sell it on ebay. Thats why you have to send Universal's in to them.

I would like to react to this
that shows that there are some leaks around between HTC and its business partners and, our freiends at IMEI check, has foudn some way to access these leaks and make some money.
And please do not take this like "racism" or anything else.
HTC is a Taiwanese Company POINT ! In Taiwan China Korea (Much difficult in Japan) Money is the most important thing ! I was living Before in HK, and has often be oblige to deal with the mainland but the things is that Money can buy anything over there or allow you a lot of things. I had last year a "Weird" problem with a Taiwanese PC, Pocket PC, smartphone manufacturer. Well I was dealing for a potential of 300 Units (PC) and things were going well at the begning until... they bypass me and contacted my client to make business with them.
This is how things work there and will always work.
If you take for example Korea... nobody follow any contract, in Fact in business matter it works like this, you firs sign the contract, and then you discuss about the term of the contract. If for example you want to "punish" a Korean company you just has to force them to follow a contract (this is the worst punition for them)
Once again, there are no racism in my story I am living in Asia since a long time now, my wife is Korean/Japanese and I had the chance to live, before I met my wife, with a Chinese lady (Be quiet on this one ok )

Absolute bollocks :roll:
Did you even read the rest of the posts here or did you just read the first one and reply straight away?
How exactly does this show that there are leaks? Where's your proof? One dumbass hatches a theory and you take it as gospel :roll:

nedge2k said:
Absolute bollocks :roll:
Did you even read the rest of the posts here or did you just read the first one and reply straight away?
How exactly does this show that there are leaks? Where's your proof? One dumbass hatches a theory and you take it as gospel :roll:
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Just share experience, that all

hey guyz, again ive said there is no proof these are just speculations, and again im not a damn developer, as far as i remeber ihavent insulted anyone, would you plz choose a better language describing the people on this forum,, if you think that we are all beggars, fine dont be around us, but plz just stop this insulting. and why are my words so painfull, i just said what i though nothing more. specially that in various threads in this forum, some guyz managed to get the codes from HTC so im not totally inventing a story, i think prooving me wrong would be much easier that saying all of this, jesus why is insulting so easy

florin_m
A year ago i unlocked more than 20 phones (s100 and 9090) with imei-check's help so don't say we all beggars here.
Would there be an online service soon to unlock the MDA-PRO? Because sending your MDA to England isn't accepltable for everyone and i really need to use the service quite often.

@florin_m
hi florin,
i seriously doubt, that you've programmed an unlocker for Universal, just few days after it was released to the market.
Either you have/had:
1. engineering prototypes with certain bootloader functions opened
2. access to special service SD cards
3. bootloader passwords
4. access to IMEI/lock database
i'd say 2. or 4. is right
BTW, why do you call your company IMEI-CHECK?
Wouldn't it be more apropriate to call it unlock-programming ?
IMEI-CHECK is invoking a vision of checking IMEI against a list or such...
buzz

Innovators, Visionaries ,Thank You!

I mean most sites are riddled with fan boies making snide comments, but not here , because in hear you have "visionaries" these are the people who are called "makers" , "dont ever tell me that this thing cant be broken "
I look all around in here and members see an Android or Win Phone or any device as something that took skill to make and even more skill to break (i use that term loosley) , nothing is broke, its actually given new life!
I have a Win Phone 7 Samsung Focus, had a Blackberry 9000 Bold and iphone 3g before that , I had a chinese Eizo smartphone touchscreen a year before apples iphone and it had all the bells and whistles what intrigued me the most was how open the phone was, everything was accessable, hackable to anyone who wanted to mess with it , newer phones especially phones made for the American market are given hidden functions and its up to the great people of this forum (and others) to find and unlock these features !
I get frustrated all the time because I hate having to go back to the beginning , most of you know what I mean , for those that dont , try it sometime, in other words while forging into the unknown on your new phone test something in the diagnostics of the phone; anything , it might be a useful discovery to post to the community , it might not be, the really cool thing is that through discovery good or bad is great for all of us , because thats how we learn , trust me , when someone tells me "dont" use *#367'# (not real) or whatever ,I wont do it (if they reasoned why) otherwise I will try it out , like I said earlier I dont really like starting fresh , but only because it takes time to get back to where you were!
Any way to all you Innovators , Visionaries I salute you ! I will learn from you as well!

Wp7 update

There may already be several threads in other sections discussing this anticipated update, but I thought why not. Happy New Years Ladies and Gentlemen.
Microsoft has stuck to their slogan "Early 2011".
The little blue birdy however flew a little closer to sources and overheard "January".
As of now, the update has not yet been released obviously so this gives us all the opportunity to discuss some of our individual expectations from this upcoming update. You may have heard, there may be several updates, not only one.
Let's try not to get too loony but in all seriousness, when I first purchased my HTC MOZART with WP7 I did so without much research and maybe too much faith in Microsoft.
I thought MAC - PC, IPhone - WP7
I can tell you all now, I was severely traumatized by my experience when I first discovered I couldn't customise my ring-tone. With tears still pouring down my face, and Chevron still non existent, I went to Copy and Paste something. It was then that I learnt that the World had already ended.
Now like I said, we can't expect too much but I just want to state what I personally believe and after some scrutiny of my opinion wisely believe I'm in the position to state several of the most 'CRUCIAL' changes that need to take place ASAP on WP7. The severity of leaving these features out has already taken on another dimension. Some features were intentionally left out for future profiteering and others simply because the potential of such features could be exploited in unexpected ways.
Taking this path however has led some of Microsoft's most loyal customers questioning the developmental plans and reasoning's behind a number of decisions.
You have to think, these phones aren't toys. These phones (due to the mandatory specifications Microsoft has set) pack quite a powerful punch in terms of processing capabilities. The true capabilities of these technologies seriously can be quite dazzling. For one reason or another, unfortunately such open technology will probably never fall into the hands of the masses.
However, they seem to have gone a bit too far with the intentional tampering of functionality and the unprecedented level of scrutiny has left Microsoft scrambling to find the excuses, and forced them to re-think their relationship with their customers.
Julian Assange is here questioning which governments are responsible for all these dead civilians and we need to seriously point exactly at the people in charge (Governments - Developers all the same) and demand why, with the level of power they hold, the technology, funds and potential they have access too, are there basic features missing on these GOD DAM PHONES!?
One might state, "If you don't like it, then go somewhere else!"
Well "NO!" is what I would say. Why am I being forced to use outdated technology just to enable me to change my ring-tone! It seems the more we human beings accomplish technologically, the less we are able to utilize it with some common sense. One step forward, two steps back!
It is these corporations that hold the responsibility and have the obligation to set a standard with technological advancements. They are the leading manufacturers, researchers and developers enabling the wonderful standard of life we all possess today. BUT, you have to remember, the people at the front end of these achievements need to be held accountable when a phone shows up on the market that doesn't allow one to change their ring-tone! We as a group of human beings are able to discuss and elaborate. If we are standing here in 2011 with a phone that doesn't allow one to change their ring-tone, we need to stop and start wondering what the hell is going on.
"Yes, I just payed top dollar for one of the most advanced phones out there! So advanced you don't need to change your ring-tone, you just select one out of a list! HOW INGENIUS! "
"Yes, I just payed two million pounds for a luxurious house! It's so freakin high class and luxurious it doesn't even have any DOORS OR WINDOWS!"
See the similarity?
Please Microsoft, give me my Ring-tone back. Give me the Flash Player I deserve. Give me my Landscape Address Bar in MIE. Give me my Multitasking. Give me my Copy/Cut & Paste. Give me my Media player that allows me to Fast Forward/Rewind with my own fingers. YOUTUBE BY HTC DID! Give my USB storage functionality! After all, there is a memory card in there! Give me a voice on my Maps to let me know when I have to turn. Do something about this 'SEARCH' button please. It keeps interrupting me on practically everything I try to do on the phone. At least create a locking mechanism or even give me the option to use it for something more USEFUL! BING IT OFF. Get it?
Anybody else with any realistic functions they believe is a basic requirement? If so please name them.
When the Update is finally released, we can further elaborate on the improvements. I'm sure there will be improvements. WP7 can do better!
Best Regards, Dontworry

Man if only Bluetooth file transfers could be added in the update..

I have a samsung i780 for 2 years already
I lost my mind and bought one HTC HD7 without researching
Please microsoft, do not make me regret more than I already am
it's sad that I feel better with my old i780 with a fake copy of WM6.5
listen to this man, makes us happy.

Guys you must not compare it with the win 6.x phones. Please jsut think about the potential and look at what you do with this phone instead of what it can't.

I jumped from my beloved pimped qtek 9000 to HD7 and i must say.....even if the qtek is so yesterday .... but the WM 6,5 with working bluetooth-Garmin XT and other cool features was untill today way better than WM7.
I Understand that the 7 software is still in developement, but it is not yet worth the money, the time that i invested just to find out why the bluetooth wouldnt work and so on and so on.
I honestly believed that it would be a realy woooooow phone but it is not. So far it is an overpriced not so usefull dissapoitement.

llejk said:
Guys you must not compare it with the win 6.x phones. Please jsut think about the potential and look at what you do with this phone instead of what it can't.
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Well 4 starters........it would be very usefull if it "could" establish a bluetooth connection with my qtek or for that mater with my hp laptop. That would be wooooooow. On the other hand it cant do much more than a HD2 with a pimped WM 6,5.

Search key really annoy my Mozart
Double click or confirm or somethings for HOME (Start) key in running applications
I want Proximity sensor to disable all key when cover with somethings else
(in running applications)
sorry for my poor ENGLISH

guys u are wasting time and space on XDA by creating those use less threads.... there are so many out there...
i feel so sorry for those ppl who buy things with out knowing what they are getting and then B#%@& about it like a girl... no one put a gun to your head to buy a WP7, u did it with the free will...
and come on i gave up on the Samsung i780 in 6 months as it was a mistake i made buying, which i corrected by getting a HTC Touch Pro. the screen was crap as the touch penal never work... the screen size did not allow me to run so many apps, it was so slow... so if u have used i780 for 2 years u should be glad that u bought a WP7 device as its smooth and fast..
CES is around the corner and i think the update will be launched there....

Peter V8 said:
Well 4 starters........it would be very usefull if it "could" establish a bluetooth connection with my qtek or for that mater with my hp laptop. That would be wooooooow. On the other hand it cant do much more than a HD2 with a pimped WM 6,5.
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come on u want to compare WP7 devices with your qtek..... u must be kidding me... is that company still making PDA???
i am using HD7 since the frist week of its launch... and as i have unlimited data plan i can send all the files by email, so no need to file transfer, my photos are sent to my sky drive so any one with access can view or download it.

a house so luxurious it has no windows..... wow great place to throw stones huh... just sayin... plus i agree nobody twisted anyones arm to buy one.... the fanboys need to stop cryin like girls... and i can say that... im a girl...

truffle1234 said:
come on u want to compare WP7 devices with your qtek..... u must be kidding me... is that company still making PDA???
i am using HD7 since the frist week of its launch... and as i have unlimited data plan i can send all the files by email, so no need to file transfer, my photos are sent to my sky drive so any one with access can view or download it.
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I dont want to compare anything and it wouldnt be fair, but on the qtek the bluetooth worked and with WIMO 6,5 by Tomal it was fast.
Oh and i dont need a phone for sending some pics to a sky drive to show them to other people. A working bluetooth would be fine.
Oh and changing ringtones too.
Get the point?
Adobe reader also.....more for a job thing than sending photos. The qtek made a hell of a job there regarding my buisiness.
So the post with the lux house....is not so far fetched after all :-D:-D:-D

cut it off guys
if you dont like it, you can just find more suitable phone for you
but be sure that you do some research on that phone before you buy
and stop whinning about this is not good compare to that...blah blah

hassler said:
cut it off guys
if you dont like it, you can just find more suitable phone for you
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Yeah, you are right. And it seems that soon many people will do so as downgrading mobile computer (which was any WM6.x device) to just fancy phone is not what the people doing real job with the phone are expecting. I'm just waiting for the WP7 update and if it does not contain the mandatory tethering ... bye-bye WP7. Too expensive toy ... that does nothing

prr said:
Too expensive toy ... that does nothing
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Well it does everything a Phone should.... your expectations are obviously higher then this.
Mine does everything I need, after coming from iPhone 4 and Desire HD there isn't anything in particular that I miss. Yes, it doesn't have all the same features but that's the same with any platform you choose.

Nokia and Windows phone 7

As many of you already know , nokia and microsoft are partners from now on , and some people are really looking forward to it. I can't wait to see Nokia windows phone 7 phones out there. I was wondering what do you guys, on this forum think about it? Does it have a future or not? . For those who didnt see it but you probably did, check out the nokia-confirmed-concept-for-first-windows-phone-7-devices/"]concept of the prototype's (btw this is confirmed from nokia)

It will suck just like all nokia smartphones!

julisbulis said:
It will suck just like all nokia smartphones!
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You registered just for that?
To the OP: Nokia makes excellent hardware with very good build quality (N8 for example), and has some outstanding services and other applications I think will benefit anybody with a wp7. So with wp7's great UI and their great Hardware, I am eagerly awaiting a release of an upper end phone from Nokia.
Now we just need faster OS updating and we could be in for a great ride. Here's to hoping.

@markomarkogame,
Hi and welcome to the forums. There have been many threads created about Nokia and WP7, in which there have been discussions just like the one you're starting.
You may find that they are very useful and that it is somewhat unnecessary to start a new thread. We encourage users to search before posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951732&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880622&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950065&highlight=nokia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951292&highlight=nokia
Casey

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You registered just for that?
To the OP: Nokia makes excellent hardware with very good build quality (N8 for example), and has some outstanding services and other applications I think will benefit anybody with a wp7. So with wp7's great UI and their great Hardware, I am eagerly awaiting a release of an upper end phone from Nokia.
Now we just need faster OS updating and we could be in for a great ride. Here's to hoping.
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hey sry im new to forum. gotta get used to it.
anyway ur right at what u said. i remember when my nokia phone fell on floor, and i say Dont worry its nokia

markomarkogame said:
hey sry im new to forum. gotta get used to it.
anyway ur right at what u said. i remember when my nokia phone fell on floor, and i say Dont worry its nokia
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The first comment was directed at "julisbulis" who apparently registered just to say they are going to suck lol.

Nokia Windows Phone is 'absolutely stunning’
"Absolutely stunning." That’s how everyone that's been shown Nokia's new Windows Phone 7 smartphone describes the device. This is according to Nokia’s Conor Pierce, general manager for UK and Ireland, in a one to one interview with Pocket-lint.
"To the partners we have shown the device to, their words, not necessarily mine - although I agree - upon showing it to them. It's spontaneous and unprompted. They say ‘the first Nokia Windows Phone is absolutely stunning’ and that’s die hard gurus in this business, who have thick skin," boasts Pierce.
"For them to say that spontaneously without any sales pitch shows what we are bringing is pretty spectacular. And that’s only the beginning.”
The phone Pierce is talking about is, of course, the soon to be announced, and hopefully soon to be released, Nokia Windows Phone. Dubbed Sea Ray and already enjoying its fair share of leaks, it is the company’s first foray into the Microsoft Windows Phone 7 operating system and the phone that it hopes will help it turn around the fortunes of the once proud Finnish mobile phone maker.
"I’ve actually got one in my pocket, but I can't show you," he teases, leaving Pocket-lint unable to confirm the opinion of so many gurus.
Pierce, who also adds that he has "seen what’s coming," is very confident that the launch of Nokia Windows Phone 7 devices in the coming months is going to be the success that the company so drastically needs.
Rest of the interview here if anyone is interested: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42235/nokia-windows-phone-7-stunning

Bye Bye Andro-Wave Users

Everyone knows what i am thinking about android, and now we are clean from this crappy os, thank you xda admins. Know we can discuess here witouth disturb of ... users.
It is beter for all. no need for 2 oses in one section.
And know i will say it officialy i am an android hater and doing everything to bring this os to fall. it is easy cause google makes at his own mistakes in last time, my friends would never buy android and there are even more and more, when they hear about viruses ... and so on, no need to list everything yet.
ok i am happy that i doesnt must read here anymore android sh...
i already gave me a one star vote

That crappy OS has more than twohundred-thousand apps already on the Market.
Using Android on a Samsung Wave is a chance to survive.

always the same answer, the os is crap and have a lot of apps, what is better? everyone can choose, not everyone need tausend of fart apps, on bada there are 3
Or an apps to sd app... why they cannot built such things in?
Android on wave runs as nothing, its a phone you cannot even call someone, realy bad.

larioteo said:
always the same answer, the os is crap and have a lot of apps, what is better? everyone can choose, not everyone need tausend of fart apps, on bada there are 3
Or an apps to sd app... why they cannot built such things in?
Android on wave runs as nothing, its a phone you cannot even call someone, realy bad.
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That's a 4 year old kid argument.
You can't blame Android. The project is not half done yet, moron...

hey i dont mind using android and bada 2.0 on my wave it would be like a dream come true.

congrats, you just changed everyones mind. 550, 500 buyers per day just stopped buying android... lol

it's crazy
the windows also has viruses , and it's too many than andriod so windows not good?
maybe andriod not good than bada ,but it can free to install any app ,and bada can't ,when bada install a app the phone must online or it can't install successfull ,and bada app can't share to others like the other OS

Android OS has one big advantage over the other OSes - speed of draining the battery out )

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Android OS has one big advantage over the other OSes - speed of draining the battery out )
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really depends on the hardware, which some manufacturers have let us down. Most devices from this year are lasting a day or two with heavy use though. Users have demanded better battery life, and they got it. The main problem with android is that people will go buy some ****ty device (sony x10 for example) and think all android phones are like that. People have no clue about tech, they dont look to see what the battery is rated at, dont bother to find out what kind of cpu/gpu the device has, dont bother to research what a device can actually do. For something that we stare at for hours a day it seems, I cant understand the behaviour. Bada is pretty good, but it seems a bit pointless unless samsung makes more money from it somehow.

Im ok no need make's 7 picture difference just Samsung do like Apple make's real OS for Phone and Bada 2 its an example you can see. Its works realy like an Iphone GUI !!! Android use too much processus and memory there's why your phone need battery charge all time !!!

Tigrouzen said:
Im ok no need make's 7 picture difference just Samsung do like Apple make's real OS for Phone and Bada 2 its an example you can see. Its works realy like an Iphone GUI !!! Android use too much processus and memory there's why your phone need battery charge all time !!!
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blaaaarrrg please stop, an "iPhone GUI" cannot be referred to as "good" and bada deserves better than to be compared to that garbage in any way
large difference: a bada smartphone has more than one stupid button on the front

Ok no one makes any sence at all.
I know English is not everyones primary or even secondary launguage but try at least to make sence when trying to make an argument.
Facts of the matter is take the Android Appstore away and what do you have .... ..... ......
Yes exacetely.
Its the only arguable point Android holds over any of the other OS's.
Same applies to a IdontPhone ... take the appstore away and you have a ? ... .... .....
Yes Exacetely.
For ppl that want 7 cazillion apps thats useless sure go for Android or iOS...
For ppl that want a funtional phone that can do exacetely the same at 1/4 the price ... Bada is maybe not such a bad idea.
I for one supports Bada and would like to see it grow in the market. More choice = more competition = reduced prices.
And no I dont need a app that i can take a dump on my screen and the app tells me "Holly crap you just Shat on your screen" thanks mr obvious ... its pointless

Tigrouzen said:
Im ok no need make's 7 picture difference just Samsung do like Apple make's real OS for Phone and Bada 2 its an example you can see. Its works realy like an Iphone GUI !!! Android use too much processus and memory there's why your phone need battery charge all time !!!
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touchwiz 4.0 is the same on both android and bada. As far as end user experience goes the 2 arent much different, except bada has less support and gets put on lesser hardware.

Well, I use both Android as well as Bada....On 2 separate phones, you see! I never wanted Android on The Bada series....Bada has its own specialties. If you ever wanted an Android, why did you choose Bada at the first! Senseless! Totally not worthy! I love Bada for what it is and android for what it is!

So on the one site iOS and bada
on the other site Android and Phone7
for anyone is a realy good os for download.
iOS = for app lovers
bada = for os lovers
Android = for i do it as i like people
Phone7 = for the i need no much people
we all have our preferences, and now all should understand that for one person android is god os, and for another not, we have now separate forums and there is yet a free way for everyone to cummunicate.
but to say another os is ****, why it doesnt have many apps as other --> understand it, there are people they want such functions integrated and not always a seperate app --> nobody critics android in his forums, please respect us bada evangelists and let us discuess about our favorite os.
It is like a religion war, everyone thinks his is the best, maybe we can get benefits supporting both sites, a monopol never looked good on earth, to much power for one company can harm us all.
Be cool and get the info of your interest, it is realy good that we now have our own part here and everyone can free discuss.
is this childish enough? @ aLexzkter how old are you? 4 years so long isnt android old^^ a functional version.

So on the one site iOS and bada
on the other site Android and Phone7
for anyone is a realy good os for download.
iOS = for app lovers
bada = for os lovers
Android = for i do it as i like people
Phone7 = for the i need no much people
we all have our preferences, and now all should understand that for one person android is good os, and for another not, we have now separate forums and there is yet a free way for everyone to cummunicate.
but to say another os is ****, why it doesnt have many apps as other --> understand it, there are people they want such functions integrated and not always a seperate app --> nobody critics android in his forums, please respect us bada evangelists and let us discuess about our favorite os.
It is like a religion war, everyone thinks his is the best, maybe we can get benefits supporting both sites, a monopol never looked good on earth, to much power for one company can harm us all.
Be cool and get the info of your interest, it is realy good that we now have our own part here and everyone can free discuss.

So on the one site iOS and bada
on the other site Android and Phone7
for anyone is a realy good os for download.
iOS = for app lovers
bada = for os lovers
Android = for i do it as i like people
Phone7 = for the i need no much people
we all have our preferences, and now all should understand that for one person android is good os, and for another not, we have now separate forums and there is yet a free way for everyone to cummunicate.
but to say another os is ****, why it doesnt have many apps as other --> understand it, there are people they want such functions integrated and not always a seperate app --> nobody critics android in his forums, please respect us bada evangelists and let us discuess about our favorite os.
It is like a religion war, everyone thinks his is the best, maybe we can get benefits supporting both sites, a monopol never looked good on earth, to much power for one company can harm us all.
Be cool and get the info of your interest, it is realy good that we now have our own part here and everyone can free discuss.

You started the war remember?
You were first to pick up the stone so dont be surprised if they threw stones back at you.
if you have just kept off the childish comments, you could've avoided this.
(im not criticizing you but i am saying you shouldnt be suprised if people reacted
against the negative things you said)
Also whether you evangelize on bada or not, the way you did it, actually turned people off, plus the fact that you also made other bada users look uncool.
There is no reason to piss off android developers or android users or iOS users.
Instead of converting them you just turned them off from BADA, not by
BADA's fault but by your attitude.

I think as i read the unaccessary critik from people on 2.0 posts that even havent testet it yet that i am not the first one who has thrown the frist stone, you should read them before.
Also it is not neccessary for users that even dont ever had an bada phone come here and critizise me or other for supporting a non android based phone, is this fair?
People that like to have illegal apps, they are criminal and i will never support such ones, people that like android as it is, are something different, they pay their apps and everybody is happy. but i also see in ports only hacking of paid apps, and no developer likes this.
A developer makes his own things like apps or such stuff, and if we make good work than why not to pay us? the main thing is that i hate people that are using illegal software not they that uses it to support the hard work of people.
What would you think when you loose 50% of your money every month, why some people think it is not fair to pay for apps.
I have said the main part, i know many intelligent android users that uses the system with care and pay for there stuff, but the black side is larger.
There are differences
Developer = Makes apps to earn money or just for fun and free
Hacker = uses other sources to change a system sometimes in good minds sometimes it harms the first group
Android port of oleg is positive
but the hacking of paid apps from nearly everyone is negative. and stealing always overlays the other part.

In a way i can understand some of the views in this thread. But to say android is junk and has viruses? Does linux? Maybe a handfull. Much more likely to get one with WinMo. Or windows for that matter. Android is much more efficient and better off than WinMo will ever be. And i was a hardcore WinMo user. Android has TONs more to offer than WinMo. Not so sure on Bada OS as i have not used it.
But i can have over 200mb free on a Reboot and have all apps loaded into mem and ready to go. No using any CPU cycles. Can any other phone O.S do that? .
Not to mention the endless mods kernel wise and O.S... So not sure where the Anti android comes from other that you have only used it on your device. Just as i did back years ago. On WinMo. And sure it was not good at all. But also not supposed to be on that device to begin with. So just wait. It will only get better for your devices. Much faster and much smoother. Wait and see.
And on that thought. Thread locked before a Flame war starts