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thanks for reading my post
i am now an owner of the diamond2 and i am about to replace it for pro 2 because of two reasons
1- the stand-by of death attacked my device i am now getting it about twice a day, and nothing is working to fix it, from changing my rom to changing my radio rom, nothing does the trick
2-i feel like the pro2's bigger screen is going to be better
my question is , does the pro2 get this sod problem like diamond2
and also what's the average battery life for pro2
thanks
sabbourh said:
thanks for reading my post
i am now an owner of the diamond2 and i am about to replace it for pro 2 because of two reasons
1- the stand-by of death attacked my device i am now getting it about twice a day, and nothing is working to fix it, from changing my rom to changing my radio rom, nothing does the trick
2-i feel like the pro2's bigger screen is going to be better
my question is , does the pro2 get this sod problem like diamond2
and also what's the average battery life for pro2
thanks
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i've seen a couple posts about the SoD. From personal experience it seems to be heat that heightens its occurrence. I would say with moderate usage you can get a healthy 34 hours. If i'm playing with my phone installing and testing new apps I would say after a 24 hour period my phone will be at ~20%
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thanks for your kind reply
so if i buy a pro2 , am i supposed to take that sod problem as a normal one , like in my dimaond2?
I've only had it happen to me once since getting my phone in September. Take care of your phone and there should be no problems.
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belive me i take care of my phone like it's my baby
in my dimaond2 i only had the official wm 6.5 plus only three programs, s-k tools, gps gate and real player and i got that sod problem
it's a shame that htc does nothing about such an obvious problem in diamond2
anyways thanks so much for your help
thanks a lot
Flashed 40+ ROMS and used stock ROM. Never any SOD, knock wood.
Battery life gets me through the day. It is really hard to compare this since we all do different things with the phone. Best bet is to compare manufacturers specs for both phones related to battery.
i've only had SoD one or two times and both were related to an app in the background hogging all the memory. Never experienced it on a fresh flash of a rom.
Also battery life varies on different roms. right now running NRG's 10.Feb.2010 21891 rom which has pretty good battery life.
Also the radio you have installed effects the battery life.
As for switching from a diamond, i had the at&t fuze before this and the keyboard on the tilt 2 (tp2) is far superior and the bigger screen is a super +
i'd say go for it.
I also say get the TP2. I am not sure about your SoD problem (in fact, never even heard of it) but your second point is a good one. The bigger screen is nice, trust me I used to own a TP1.
And the hard keyboard is the best on any phone out there, period.
Go for Rhodium!
So far the best hardware keyboard device to this date
thank you all
thank you all for your replies and help
i got my pro2 today and i've got to say that i am happy that i made this upgrade from diamond2
the screen size is a lot better though the difference seem a little from 3.2 to 3.6 but in real life it's a big difference, sound quality is great but the location of the 2 speakers at the bottom instead of the side made me lose a lot of calls to be honest.
but the key bored will make you forget any bad things you can imagine as a bad thing in a pro2
it's great in size and beautiful to use even for a guy like me with thick big fingers, i've got to admit it i loved it from first sight.
just wanted to share you with my ideas about the pro2 and thank you all for your great help.
Ok hold on before you fly off the handle - I'm trying to ask a very specific question, to probably a fairly small sub group of people.
I own an iPhone 4 and a Desire. I , for the most part got the iPhone 4 because of the fairly bad battery life on the Desire - not to mention that I had just come out of contract with my ATT account so I could get a discounted iPhone toy.
Are there any others out there that have had experience with both of these devices and if so have you been even close to being sucessful at obtaining similar battery life? Which ROM and / or what SetCPU settings (I'm not entirely convinced how much difference that makes for me)??
It is now 5:27 pm and I have tried my best to have both devices used for the same things. I alternaated phone calls. I pushed emails to both devices nd I even tried to duplicate SMS's as much as psossible with help of a third person.
The iPhone has 80% left and the Desire has 60%. If anything though I used the iPhone more because it has my primary SIM card in it.
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Not really sure this is a development thing but for me cyanogen 6 latest nightly has nearly double the battery life of the stock t mobile 2.1 rom that I had before.
maybe it's your battery stats.....wipe the nattery info and recalibrate your desire....you might have a fix then
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Not really sure this is a development thing but for me cyanogen 6 latest nightly has nearly double the battery life of the stock t mobile 2.1 rom that I had before.
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Thanks - I haven't tried Cyanogen but i've tried enough of the others over some months that I knew that answer had to be a particular ROM OR the possibilty that it just wasn't going to happen.
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i use pays 1.9 rom and the battery is holding the charge much longer, i didn't charge the phone for 3 days and today it had 50 % before i started to play need for speed shift . and the iphone doesn't use as much charge as the desire because it has a crapy old lcd display and no REAL multitasing....
I got roufianos v6 and i get a day of heavy duty work on desire, day and a half with low medium usage and im happy with the battery. (wifi on all the time, auto sinc on an hour of fb, weather, xda rss news, nimbuzz chat, gtalk chat, couple of calls and sms, homerun battle 3d, internet checking fb and other forums, xda app couple times a day and thats pretty much most of the duty) i couldnt last 2 days with nokia x6 with 1/10th of that usage.
Besides, iphone doesnt have this insanely beautiful amoled bright colors do its normal its battery lasts longer. Its also got a diferent system and diferent multitasking codes. Desire runs some proceses in the background for certain period of time so it loads diferent apps u just used faster.
Besides, charge the phone over night and use it over day and u wont notice the battery life is bad at all. U cant enjoy iphone as much as u can enjoy desire if u know what each individual device is capable of.
If u ask me, u can give me an ever lasting iphone or a day lasting batteri on desire and id pick desire. As a matter of fact id pick desire over any combination about phones u make
Sent from my HTC Desire
OH oh - Sorry I didn't mean to get the iPhone war going. I have jsut noticed that the battery life has somehow greatly improved with the iphone 4 vs the 3 and I had previously not been making it even through the day with my Desire.
Probably wouldn't have even been looking at the Iphone if it hadn't been for the battery issue with the Desire.
Again I was just hoping some others had been able to personally experience the battery thing so I could get a better idea of whether to go back to the drawing (ROM) board or to give up.
Thanks all
I have had both phones & iPhone has hands down better screen (& you can see it in direct sunlight).
Battery life was a lot longer on iPhone, but I think that's just because I played with it less, got rid of it & kept my Desire in the end.
Currently using modaco's r8 with A2SD+, seems to make a big difference to battery life by having dalvik-cache & apps on the SD card. My battery is now a horizontal line in standby with constant sync etc (something I could never get before).
Can anyone else confirm better battery with A2SD+ or is it just me?
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I have had both phones & iPhone has hands down better screen (& you can see it in direct sunlight).
Battery life was a lot longer on iPhone, but I think that's just because I played with it less, got rid of it & kept my Desire in the end.
Currently using modaco's r8 with A2SD+, seems to make a big difference to battery life by having dalvik-cache & apps on the SD card. My battery is now a horizontal line in standby with constant sync etc (something I could never get before).
Can anyone else confirm better battery with A2SD+ or is it just me?
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I will be also interrested to know if A2SD+ improves battery...
I'm worried about the issues plaguing the device, have the updates and latest software fixed some of the issues? Overheating, screen ripples, draining battery etc?
those production issues have been fixed more than a month ago, if u like the phone, jump on without aby fears, ull love it here
overheating is within acceptable range eith custom kernels, and future releases by nvidia and htc are bound to solve this issue further
battery life has been quite good too, but this is suvjective and depends on ur usage
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KLUVJ said:
those production issues have been fixed more than a month ago, if u like the phone, jump on without aby fears, ull love it here
overheating is within acceptable range eith custom kernels, and future releases by nvidia and htc are bound to solve this issue further
battery life has been quite good too, but this is suvjective and depends on ur usage
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful What about lag and the multi tasking issue? Did HTC fix that or are they still forcing us to accept reloading pages as a new standard for conserving ram and battery?
I haven't used an HTC phone for quite some time now and although Samsung has been really really nice, it's not as satisfying as owning an HTC
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful What about lag and the multi tasking issue? Did HTC fix that or are they still forcing us to accept reloading pages as a new standard for conserving ram and battery?
I haven't used an HTC phone for quite some time now and although Samsung has been really really nice, it's not as satisfying as owning an HTC
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that is a sense issue. currently, all non sense roms dont hace that issue.hopefully, htc will push the new release out with a multitask fix, as they already fixed the live wallpaper issue.
lag is nonexistant on roms, really, blazing fast, i have never seen sense this fast, all due to the viper rom and the faux experimental oc kernel.
all problems are pretty much fixed in roms, and hopefully, htc will step up their game asap and release their 404 update. its been confirmed to drop in the following 2 weeks
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that is a sense issue. currently, all non sense roms dont hace that issue.hopefully, htc will push the new release out with a multitask fix, as they already fixed the live wallpaper issue.
lag is nonexistant on roms, really, blazing fast, i have never seen sense this fast, all due to the viper rom and the faux experimental oc kernel.
all problems are pretty much fixed in roms, and hopefully, htc will step up their game asap and release their 404 update. its been confirmed to drop in the following 2 weeks
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Thank you. One last thing, is the wifi problem related to hardware or just software? I'm referring to the one wherein you press the upper right hand corner of the screen and the wifi signal gets stronger.
You mentioned all problems being fixed on custom roms, what about stock roms?
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Thank you. One last thing, is the wifi problem related to hardware or just software? I'm referring to the one wherein you press the upper right hand corner of the screen and the wifi signal gets stronger.
You mentioned all problems being fixed on custom roms, what about stock roms?
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hardware. and its not really a bad thing too, cant understand why people stress over it. stock currently has pretty good battery life, its just the three dot menu that needs a fix.the very soon to be released 404 update will resolve all that and bring a lot more enhancements to the table.
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hardware. and its not really a bad thing too, cant understand why people stress over it. stock currently has pretty good battery life, its just the three dot menu that needs a fix.the very soon to be released 404 update will resolve all that and bring a lot more enhancements to the table.
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I agree with KLUVJ that this phone is really good except of that one issue i have with push email on the sense email client. However if you do use the gmail app or any other 3rd party app like maildroid, i think you are fine.
I find that the phone overheat a little more than the iphone but within acceptable range. Tried viper rom yesterday and i was amazed! the amount of settings you could do to tweak the phone is just unbelievable.
Hope you can join the group here!
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I agree with KLUVJ that this phone is really good except of that one issue i have with push email on the sense email client. However if you do use the gmail app or any other 3rd party app like maildroid, i think you are fine.
I find that the phone overheat a little more than the iphone but within acceptable range. Tried viper rom yesterday and i was amazed! the amount of settings you could do to tweak the phone is just unbelievable.
Hope you can join the group here!
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Regarding the wifi issue, are there phones with no problems? I've been reading up and it seems that HTC is accepting units for repair if you do have this issue, correct?
Lastly, what's the real deal with the battery life? I've read through a gazillion posts with some claiming it sucks and is below the gs3, others are praising it and saying it can beat the iphone 4 and 4s which I say is almost impossible for android. GSMarena rates the battery life of the hox 6 hrs below the GS3 with video playback at a paltry 6hrs only
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful
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I got mine the same way, and it's fine.
It had the wifi "grip of life" issue and a duff speaker, but I got it repaired by HTC and all is well now.
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Regarding the wifi issue, are there phones with no problems? I've been reading up and it seems that HTC is accepting units for repair if you do have this issue, correct?
Lastly, what's the real deal with the battery life? I've read through a gazillion posts with some claiming it sucks and is below the gs3, others are praising it and saying it can beat the iphone 4 and 4s which I say is almost impossible for android. GSMarena rates the battery life of the hox 6 hrs below the GS3 with video playback at a paltry 6hrs only
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There are phones with no problems. But excessive checking for the problem i.e pushing the part between volume and cam with force again and again can actually create the problem. Yes htc is accepting units for repair.
Battery life opinion will be as different as genetic code lol. Here's mine.
Some custom roms give even better battery life than others. My phone lasts a day on full charge with me having made about 30 minutes of calls, lots of whatsapp messages, web-browsing, tweeting, etc.
I get an average of 2 hours 50 minutes of screen on time.
Say you don't touch the phone for 7-8 hours maybe your sleeping or whatever, the battery would have drained only about 2-3%. That's with data/wifi and cell reception on. Incredible Standby Time.
When you do use the phone the battery flies away like crazy . I have to fully charge my phone once a day.
what about the latest batches HT26 and SH27. what is the probability of those models to be defective (hardware issue).
Honestly, if you think we are having issues, you best check out the SGS3 forums lol.
Dude i got my HOX the day it became available in my country, i was well aware of the potential issues and luckily i got a defect free unit.
I used it as a stock device for about 2 weeks and was very impressed with battery life and overall smoothness, honestly you dont need to root a HOX to get the best out of the device, it holds its own pretty well.
I rooted because I am used to the luxury of Titanium Backup, Super User apps that I have purchased and because i dont like to wait for OS updates lol.
Why wait on a carrirer when i know how to do it myself and what Team PkmN was doing with charmeleon ROM was waaaay to tempting to just sit and watch from the side lines and miss out on the action lol, truth be told that ROM was the main reason i took the plunge.
I consider myself a power user and would recommend ViperX and Faux 005 beta 1 kernel, that is if your going to root.
Thank you for the input everyone I appreciate it. I do hope I get one without issues
Guys am almost flashing 1 or 2 roms daily, till date i experinced with 7 r 8 roms..but none of them satisfied me...some ROM had problem with the basic things like camera, camcoder and other things, some other ROMs lack in battery usage...
So can someone sheds some light on this part...
As long as you're on a new stable ROM such as ICS you're battery should be fine. JB is too early to know really but it's fantastic for me. So, assuming you're now on a stable ROM (a non Sense ROM would be better too) the problem is either your battery or you. I would recommend getting a new battery if you still have the 2 year old one the phone came with, and tbh I'd recommend getting a new Ankers 1600 mAh anyway as they're fantastic, lasts me days.
Now that you're on stable ROM and have a shiny new battery, if you're battery life is still bad then the latter problem I mentioned applies, that is, you, or rather how you are using the phone.
If, like many other Vision users I see around the forums, you are overclocked to absurd speeds well over 1GHz running the performance governor then have I got news for you of course your battery life is going to be terrible. For this reason, tbh you really don't need to go over stock clock speed and if you use the Virtuous OC daemon then you can under clock significantly when the screen is off, this saves enormous amounts of battery life.
Also if you are using the phone constantly and have the screen very bright, data on all the time etc., then you've got to accept that you simply won't last more than a day between charges.
By the way I'm not going to recommend a specific ROM because as you should know "what ROM should I get" threads are not allowed, I just wanted to give you some general battery help.
Hope this helps
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As long as you're on a new stable ROM such as ICS you're battery should be fine. JB is too early to know really but it's fantastic for me. So, assuming you're now on a stable ROM (a non Sense ROM would be better too) the problem is either your battery or you. I would recommend getting a new battery if you still have the 2 year old one the phone came with, and tbh I'd recommend getting a new Ankers 1600 mAh anyway as they're fantastic, lasts me days.
Now that you're on stable ROM and have a shiny new battery, if you're battery life is still bad then the latter problem I mentioned applies, that is, you, or rather how you are using the phone.
If, like many other Vision users I see around the forums, you are overclocked to absurd speeds well over 1GHz running the performance governor then have I got news for you of course your battery life is going to be terrible. For this reason, tbh you really don't need to go over stock clock speed and if you use the Virtuous OC daemon then you can under clock significantly when the screen is off, this saves enormous amounts of battery life.
Also if you are using the phone constantly and have the screen very bright, data on all the time etc., then you've got to accept that you simply won't last more than a day between charges.
By the way I'm not going to recommend a specific ROM because as you should know "what ROM should I get" threads are not allowed, I just wanted to give you some general battery help.
Hope this helps
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Am using this ROM : [Flinny] Andromadus Test builds - CM10.1[17]
and my phone is just 40 days old... so the battery will be fine abvsly... then i wont over clock it more than 850 mhz, so it satays under stock freq. then i will be using the mobile in half brightness,, i used to hear songs nd play games lil bit... even though my battery last for jus 12-15 hrs... thats y i doubt on the ROM, but am not sure ...
The G3 seems great in almost every category, but I've seen a few issues in its performance that worries me a bit. I've seen some speed tests that show pretty long load times when opening apps(Mostly Chrome/youtube) and really poor background app management, needing to re-open every app instead of keeping it open in the background. I wanted to ask if those problems are common and if so, are they still happening in lollipop or in custom roms?
Also, I'm pretty low on budget, so I'm thinking about the 2GB ram version instead of the 3GB. Is the difference between the 2 versions noticable? Or will I be fine with the 2gbs?
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The G3 seems great in almost every category, but I've seen a few issues in its performance that worries me a bit. I've seen some speed tests that show pretty long load times when opening apps(Mostly Chrome/youtube) and really poor background app management, needing to re-open every app instead of keeping it open in the background. I wanted to ask if those problems are common and if so, are they still happening in lollipop or in custom roms?
Also, I'm pretty low on budget, so I'm thinking about the 2GB ram version instead of the 3GB. Is the difference between the 2 versions noticable? Or will I be fine with the 2gbs?
Thanks.
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I just recently got mine, been using it for about 3 weeks, and I have yet to have any of the issues you are describing. I have no issues loading apps, and I am using the Jasmine rom for 5.1.1, hope this helps. As for the 2gb/3gb, I have only used the 3gb, so I can't help you there.
Go for 3gb version..if you can
I got mine about 3 months ago. At first, I just could at most 2:30/3 hours SOT. Now Im using XenonHD. I get at least six hours, even 7: 30h. With some mods, tweaks and patience battery ceased to be a concern for me.
My model is the 16GB / 2GB ram. I never felt any great impact on performance when multitasking